Sources of Persecution against the Holy Ones / Why must the faithful, die?

After a discussion surrounding the nature of current persecution within the WT organization against the Chosen Elect of God; and how that persecution is the means through which the anointed receive their seal, I was asked the following questions:

1: “If the anointed need to be disfellowshipped (killed -John 16:2) in order to be sealed, then they would need to have been a part of false religion. What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then? ”” 

PREFACE:
Previous to the Chosen becoming mature/(sealed) into the full-grown stature of Christ (Eph.4:13-14;  1Cor.2:6,16; 13:11; 14:20; Phil.3:10), they are under the care of ("belong to") a steward/household manager (1Cor.4:1,15-16; Gal.4:1-2,19; Col.1:25; Luke 12:42). 
With spiritual growth (Heb.5:14; Col.1:28; Heb.12:23;  2Pet.1:4), comes the need for each individual to take a stand and die for the Truth 
(Mark 4:28-29; John 12:24;  1Cor.15:36; Mark 13:13; 8:35; Matt.25:6; Heb.13:13; Rom.6:5; Rev.6:9-11). 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/10/coming-to-life.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/wheat-and-weed-seeds-grow-up-and-mature.html

That death is often sourced, with a wicked steward (Luke 12:45-46; 16:1-2).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-stewards-sacred-trust.html
https://pearl-wastefulsteward.blogspot.com/
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/01/by-this-love-among-yourselves-all-will.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/10/why-does-master-delay-luke1235-stay.html

We today, can come to recognize how that "death" is presently occurring. (see 8 links above)
The question now being asked, essentially is;
'How could the anointed who existed previous to the "Watchtower", become sealed by a death for truth?'

NOTE: There is a pattern for those who finish the course of Christ (Phil.3:10-12,16-17;  1Pet.2:21; Matt.16:24-25; Rom.6:5-6,7-8) and become sealed. 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=becoming+sealed

The same destination of being sealed, has a path that varies between those who are sealed during the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Christ, and those sealed during the Great Tribulation (which occurs after the "Thousand Years"). 
This directly pertains to the question at hand, because the "thousand years" are before the emergence of the "Watchtower", and the Great Tribulation occurs when the "Watchtower" exists.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-day-and-night-of-thousand-years-two.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
(for more information about when the "thousand years" take place, please use the search box)

Those sealed during the "thousand years" and before Satan's release from the abyss (Rev.20:7) (and his subsequent installation of the False Prophet and it's Beast) (Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8; 13:1,4,11,14-15; 19:20)...
...were never conquered by those agents of Satan (Rev.20:4). 
Those who had been taken captive and conquered (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7) after Satan's release (and during the Great Tribulation), must repent, be washed clean, and ride forth with Christ in the battle against those agents of demonic deception (Rev.15:2; 2:26-27; 17:14;  2Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:12).

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My reply:
Your two questions are at the apex of much information, which could have subsets of questions, beneath them. To be thorough, I will break those questions down, in my attempt to make a fuller reply, clear and comprehensible.
In order to accept some of the assertions to follow; background information will need to be researched and studied before it is accepted. 
In order to stick to the questions at hand, I will not include all that information here and now, but will insert links for those who deem the assertions, unproven by scripture. Please use the linked references, as needed.

1a: "Before the watchtower organisation"
Those with a knowledge of "Watchtower" history, are familiar with the idea that this organization started in the late 1800s. Although the organization itself, claims it's origin with God's first martyr Abel... due to it's claim of being God's collective of righteous witnesses (Matt.23:35; Heb.11:4; 12:24). 
...that claim is error. The general population of JWs, are not members of the "Chosen" Elect (Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet.2:9), nor were they all martyred on the altar of God's spiritual Temple, as were the group of martyrs to which Abel belonged (Rev.6:9-11; Heb.12:24).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/who-are-yhwhs-witnesses.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/who-become-gods-people.html

Regarding the origin of the "Watchtower", here are the facts:

The organization was formed in 1881 as Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society for the purpose of distributing religious tracts. The society was incorporated in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on December 15, 1884. In 1896, the society was renamed Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.

Founders: Charles Taze Russell

Place founded: Pittsburgh

And so, when you ask about the period "before the watchtower was organized", that would mean the period in which anointed existed, previous to the formation of the "Watchtower" organization.
That period would run between Pentecost 33CE (John 7:38-39; Acts 1:4-5,9; 2:1-2,3-4,32-33), to roughly around 1881.

With that period now clarified, we can move forward.

Next we need to grasp, that according to your question, there are two distinct periods during which, the anointed Chosen Elect members of God's Temple priesthood, exist. Both of those periods are previous to the arrival of God's eternal Kingdom.
Obviously, those two periods are 
1. 33 CE thru 1881,
and 
2. 1881 thru to the End (Rev.2:26;  1Cor.15:24-25;  2Thess.2:8;  1Cor.15:26; Rev.20:14-15;  1Pet.4:7;  2Pet.3:7,10-11,12-13)

Those two periods, coincide with two Bible periods...
1. The "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus Christ 
        [starts: 33CE - Ends: Birth of "Watchtower" kingdom over anointed]
2. Lifespan of "Watchtower" kingdom 
        [captivates and conquers the anointed, Gentiles trample God's Temple priesthood into powerlessness (the Great Tribulation) and 
         Armageddon. Ends: God's Kingdom)

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-remaining-ones.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/why-jesus-came-to-earth-last-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/02/two-witnesses-lampstands.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/12/here-is-earlier-post-with-updates.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/02/thought-from-friend-read-rev-184-again_9845.html

To summarize all major spiritual eras, in chronological order...
1. Creation TO Christ and the spiritual begetting of sons of God, including...
2. The "Thousand Year" reign of Christ.
3. Release of Satan from Abyss / end of "thousand years" / Satan's short period of time / 
    Great Tribulation + Armageddon / TO The End
4. Victory of Armageddon / Eternal Kingdom of God commences, 
    given to Jesus Christ and his Holy Ones

Your question pertains to eras 2 & 3.
How so?
---The period of anointed ones, before the "Watchtower", runs from Pentecost TO the end of the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus and the release of Satan from the abyss (Rev.20:7).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/11/satans-release-how.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-happened-in-1914.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-has-key-to-abyss.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-have-found-typing-mistakes-below-and.html

---The period after which the "Watchtower" emerges, runs from Satan's release/Great Tribulation/Armageddon, TO the End of Satanic rule (and the start of God's Kingdom).

With this chronology establish, we can proceed with your question:
What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

The anointed always belong to the Body of Christ, which includes the steward appointed to feed that household (Rom.12:5; Eph.2:19; Matt.24:45). That steward can prove to be either faithful, or wicked (Matt.10:36; 24:48-49,50-51). Both the wicked and the righteous generations, exist throughout time (Gen.3:15; Matt.13:30; Rev.12:17,7)(Ps.112:2; Phil.2:15)... from Cain -vs- Abel, down to the "Two witnesses"/last chaste Virgins -vs- the last adulterous Harlot/"two-horned" false prophet (Rev.13:11; Isa.28:15)(Rev.14:4-5). It is an enmity without rest, until the final battle is won.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/spiritual-virginity-what-is-it.html

The wicked appear rich, powerful, and glorious. 
The faithful, appear despised, weak, and foolish 
 (1Cor.4:8-10,11-13; Rev.3:17-18;  2Cor.11:3-5,12-15,23-25,26-27,28,29-30; 12:9-10; 13:4)
Why those contrasting appearances?
Who is it, that rules over the desire of the eyes? Who is it that bestows worldly glory, dominion, power, and riches?
The unfaithful have a respectable appearance, because they have failed the test of Satan (Luke 4:5-7). In contrast, the faithful, are given the glory of Christ (John 17:22).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/12/glory.html

The wicked are the ones with worldly power, authority, and glory. Like the Jewish religious leaders; they are the ones responsible for the slaughter of the faithful (Matt.23:37,32,34-35; Rev.18:24; 6:10; 19:2). This has been going on, since Cain and Abel (1John 3:12; 2:9-11; 4:20-21).

As we learned above about the maturation of the sons of the kingdom... it takes time in the individual life of each chosen one, to reach the full grown stature of Christ, which entails a death for truth. While still a babe, such ones are under the stewardship of the wicked and powerful... similar to how Jesus was (Gal.4:4; Luke 2:46,50-52; John 1:11). 
As such ones grow to recognize the umbrella of corruption they are under; their truth-loving heart chaffs under the unjust oppression and deceptive doctrine (Eph.5:11; Rev.2:2-3;  2Cor.11:12-13; Ps.26:4; Eph.4:25). They no longer wish to condone the climate of rebelliousness toward God (Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3). They long to establish their loyalty and love for their heavenly Father and the truths of Jesus Christ 
(2Cor.10:3-5; Rev.19:11,14,8; 12:10-11; 17:14).
The result? 
They faithfully follow the path of Jesus, all the way to it's inevitable end... a death for truth. They become sealed as slaves to God alone.

There is no shortage of that wicked generation (Matt.23:33,36; Phil.2:15; John 8:44). But Jesus assures us, that if we seek them out, we will also be able to identify the righteous generation (Ps.14:5; 112:2; Matt.24:34; 7:20)... and those appointed by Jesus (Luke 12:42; Rev.11:3), who are faithful in providing the proper food at the proper time. 
https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/who-really-is.html

We can recognize them, by their lasting fruit, and their fulfilling the sign of the Son of Man (Matt.12:40; 24:28; Rev.11:7-8).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-sign-of-son-of-man.html

So again I post your question;
"What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

Before the "Watchtower" organization was formed; those anointed striving to be faithful, would need to divorce themselves from the powerful religious corruption surrounding them. We have within historical accounts, many who lived that pattern of both corruption and faithfulness.

The point that I hope was gleaned, is that in order to reign with Jesus, they Chosen must also prove faithful to the death, while being sifted by Satan their enemy. That is why they need to die in order to be sealed (Rev.6:9-11; Mark 8:35; Rev.12:10-11). 

This proves that despite Satanic temptation and persecution, their love of Christ and his truths, are more important to them than their own lives... just as was the case with Jesus. By manifesting that love in their righteous actions and choices (despite threat of death), they are sealed as slaves of God and qualified to inherit the Kingdom.

If any need assistance in order to understand this post, please contact me using the contact form in the right-side column of this page. That contact box can also be used to ask questions.
I hope my reply, addressed your need. Of course, the search box at the top can also be used to get more information than what is offered in this post, on any of the topics that were raised.

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How do we warn them?

A Question I Received:
"I have a great desire to warn those who are in WT organization and wondered if you and perhaps other anointed you associate with are making this recommendation.   My sister knows three JWs who have decisively left WT because of WT hypocrisy, and this just happened in the past two weeks.  I endeavor to share with them scriptural understanding."

My Reply:
In what way may we all share in giving a warning?
The following two links offer scriptural help with that question:
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/08/here-is-answer-to-comment-that-was-left.html
AND
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/hide-or-herald.html

There are additional links within those posts. Depending upon your interest, you can choose which ones contain the information you wish to pursue.

I am hoping that the additional links will clarify just how each person can contribute to the warning being given to those in spiritual peril.

There was also a campaign of demonstrations, back in 2015. 

Pictures that depict the warning we gave, are still being posted on FaceBook, by Obadiah Doxsey (my husband).

The warning was a proclamation, that the accurate interpretation of Revelation, places the Beast as the organization... and the last harlot as the false prophet above it. The inferences connected to this in the book of Revelation, is that those who regard the organization as spirit-directed, are committing Idolatry, toward the Image of that Beast.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-note-from-friend-good-afternoon.html

Those under the influence of that organization and it's leaders, are drinking the wine of the vine of Satan (Deut.32:32-33; Joel 3:13-14; Rev.14:18-20). Those who imbibe from that vine (instead of the vine and branches of Christ -John 15:1,4-5,8), are spiritually drunk, and are unable to "Keep Awake" as Jesus commanded (Luke 21:34-36;  1Thess.5:7; John 12:35). Just as it is nearly impossible to rouse an intoxicated person, it will be near to impossible to awaken one who is devoted to demonic deception (1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16). 
Spiritual blindness can only be cured by Christ, who opens that no one can shut, and shuts that no one can open (Rev.3:7; Luke 24:45; Matt.13:11). We are ready to offer our scriptural reasons for hope (1Pet.3:15;  1Cor.9:16)... but only God can make them able to hear what the spirit says to the congregations 
(1John 1:5; Psalm 36:9; Luke 11:13;  1Cor.2:10; Matt.11:15).

You will read at the links provided above, that we are under obligation to warn those in spiritual peril. But we also have the Bible's instruction, how, when, and who we warn.

We are commanded...NOT to enter the city to preach (Luke 17:30-33; 21:21-22), but to invite those "leaving the city" (Matt.22:9-10) who have been enabled by God's spirit, to "hear" (Rev.22:17; 2:29).

Due to one of my visions, our demonstration campaign in 2015 was a one-time deal, which covered the Summer conventions of that year. 
The reason?

In one of the visions given to me, I was permitted to witness to the people on the line to the Winepress, but only for a short time. I was then removed from their midst. I was firmly told, "You are no longer allowed to be in this place!", and while protesting that decree due to my distress over those people's destination, I was jerked up and away by my hair. I have understood this as a divine directive, to not repeat the witness given in 2015.
https://pearl-winepress.blogspot.com/

Does this mean that our need to warn, is over?
No. 
Upon the completion of that warning to the blind and deaf (Matt.13:13,14,15)...
we are all given other instructions.
We are to find and avail ourselves of God's timely provisions. If we grasp and appreciate what we consume, we are to invite yet others (Matt.22:9-10; Rev.22:17)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-comment-left-by-reader-i-understand.html

As you will see from the scriptures in the following link; Not all can grasp and appreciate what spirit is offering...
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/03/part-i-invited-and-chosen-at-marriage.html

Many who do grasp and appreciate the present spiritual provisions, feel as desperate to share it with their relatives and friends, as I felt when trying to warn those in the vision of the winepress. But we are told repeatedly in the associated parables of Jesus, that some are "taken" and some are "abandoned". (1Sam.16:7; Matt.13:11; Luke 17:34-35,36-37).
Even within families, there would be both sorts...
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-mans-enemies-will-be-persons-of-his.htm
And so....

Regarding your conversation with your JW mother... 

Yes, you could try to reason with her, and clarify that Deut.18:20-22 is not speaking of a continuing to exist as proof of faithfulness... but rather, failed prophecies as being the indication of a false prophet. 

Jesus spoke of failed prophecy, as "rotten fruit"... an offering that does not last, but rather, fades in time, becoming useless to consume. That is the reality of a prophecy that can no longer be offered, because it has obviously, expired. (Matt.7:15-17,20)

Example: 

The WT interpretation and prophecy of "This generation will by no means pass away, until all things take place" (Matt.24:34-35).

Both the WT interpretation of "generation" and the generation itself, passed away like rotten fruit. It expired. It had to be replaced, because it was not the truth and was proven so with time.
Genuine prophets convey sayings of God. Like the words of Jesus (Matt.24:35), their teaching, lasts (John 15:16; Rom.3:4).

Although this is obviously true and clear, to those "awake" and "sober" (1Thess.5:6);....

....those drunk and under a dark demonic veil, cannot see it (1Thess.5:7,2-4;  2Cor.4:4; John 12:35; Prov.4:19). This may be the reality for both your mother, and my own daughter (Rev.18:3; Jer.51:7; 25:27).

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More on the Marriage Feast [] The Day of Accounting

I received a letter, containing some questions. 
I will post excerpts of the letter in RED.

The message I received:

Christ’s bride in a cleansed state rejecting false teachings will be prepared to meet him for the wedding.  Those joining the marriage feast will have had to come into the light, shedding falsehoods, having their spiritual perception refined and thus by doing so are invited to witness the union between Jesus and his true bride members. Those anointed who did not remain faithful, trampling their brothers, the scripture speaks of the weeping and the gnashing of teeth (Luke 13:28).  So this is expected also of those who could have been part of the marriage feast. Correct? 

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So it is quite understandable that God’s justice, mercy, and love would prevent him from desiring any to be destroyed, but… the rest will be abandoned to what they chose – and so we are saying abandoned to death?  Perhaps those ones will just live the rest of their lives until they die off because they refuse to believe and submit to Kingdom rule.  I think of Luke 16 having some application, but don’t want to project my ideas into that chapter. If you have thoughts, I would be interested in knowing, but personally, it wouldn’t bother me if there is not clarity because God’s decisions are righteous and just so whatever His decision will be, will be just that.  I will look at the  links you provided, so apologize for making comment before I do further digging. 

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MY REPLY:
I will take your message in sections, and respond to each piece at a time. 
Your words will be in RED.

Christ’s bride in a cleansed state rejecting false teachings will be prepared to meet him for the wedding.  

Well, it's not quite that simple.

Not only have the bride members sought truth in Christ and cleansed their spiritual eye to remove idolatry, spiritual adultery, and falsehood... they also have been killed for the truth, in imitation of Jesus. That is a requirement (Rom. 6:3-5; Rev. 6:9-11; Mark 8:35). 

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/10/coming-to-life.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html

The herald calls, "Here is the bridegroom. Be on your way out to meet him" (Matt. 25:6). Hebrews 13:13 tells us what that entails... 

"13 Let us, then, go to meet him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore."

That "disgrace" is defined at Luke 6:22; John 16:2 and Matt. 5:11-12.

So the sacrifice of their lives, is also what prepares them to join to Christ.

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Then you say; "Those joining the marriage feast will have had to come into the light, shedding falsehoods, having their spiritual perception refined"

Not necessarily. 
Remember that one attendee was thrown out, due to not being donned in a marriage garment (Matt. 22:11-13). 
The feast is a free offering. All who are "leaving the city", are invited (Matt. 22:9).... "the good as well as the bad" (Matt. 22:10). How each person responds to that generous and merciful grace, is individual, based upon their appreciation. 
Many will be invited, but few will be chosen to have understanding of the provisions, opened up to them (Luke 24:45; Rev. 3:7-8; Matt. 13:11; 25:10). 
Those who were "taken" to the feast by God's spirit, are the ones that will appreciate the food provided by the slain (Luke 17:35-37 -for proof that this reads "eagle" and not 'vulture', see LINK). 

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-comment-left-by-reader-i-understand.html

Those favored ones chosen to understand, will appreciate the light, work to shed falsehood, and be refined. (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/03/part-i-invited-and-chosen-at-marriage.html)

Then you say; "thus by doing so are invited to witness the union between Jesus and his true bride members."

I am not sure what you mean by witnessing the union of Jesus with his bride. Can you specify?

        ----(Note to readers: If I get a response to this, I will post it.)----

Your next question: "Those anointed who did not remain faithful, trampling their brothers, the scripture speaks of the weeping and the gnashing of teeth (Luke 13:28).  So this is expected also of those who could have been part of the marriage feast. Correct? "

When Jesus "settles accounts" with his anointed slaves, those who fail will be thrown outside into the darkness, where there is the weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. 25:19,30). 

The time arrives when God causes the truth to become known to all (John 3:19-20; Luke 8:17-18; 12:2-3), and there will be no more hiding from it 
(Eze. 2:5; 33:33,29; Amos 4:12; Rev. 6:16-17;  2Cor. 5:10; Matt. 16:27; Rom. 2:5,16; 14:12). 
Those who have believed a lie and stored up treasures on earth, will have to face their lack of perception and losses (Luke 8:17-18; Matt. 6:19-21,22-23). 
When all is due to be revealed, all anointed will know, where they stand (2Pet. 3:7,10-12,13-14,17;  1Cor. 3:11-13,14-15; John 15:6; Zech. 3:2,6-7,8-9; Rev. 10:3,7; John 16:8,12-14; Rev. 15:7; 8:6). Some of that is starting to become evident, even now. There are spiritual leaders who already know that my lamp differs greatly from their own, and the spiritual battle between us, is underway 
[1Tim. 4:1; Rev. 16:13-16; 17:14;  2Cor. 10:3-5; Gen. 3:15; Rev. 12:17; Eph. 6:12; Rev. 20:7-9; 11:5 (Eph. 2:6)].
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/01/armageddon.html

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So it is quite understandable that God’s justice, mercy, and love would prevent him from desiring any to be destroyed, but… the rest will be abandoned to what they chose – and so we are saying abandoned to death?  

All creation was already abandoned to darkness and death, in Eden. Death is the eventuality of all those not saved. God is judge through Christ and his teachings (John 12:48; Rev. 20:12) and He is the reader of hearts (Heb. 4:13; Jer. 17:10;  1Cor. 5:12-13;  1Pet. 4:17-18).

Light, understanding of divine truth, and salvation, is the exception. (John 3:18; Eph. 2:3; Matt. 7:13-14)

But those who claim godly devotion and who voluntarily undergo a vow of baptism, are held to that vow. If they then choose to love The Lie due to a lack of love for truth, yes, their free will choice is respected by God. The dominant desire of the heart will manifest itself by the choices made and the testimony given (Luke 6:45; Rev. 13:4,8,16; 14:9-11; 16:2).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html
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https://pearl-666.blogspot.com

God supports those seeking Him with all their heart, and he acts in their behalf (2Chron. 16:9). He becomes their Saviour (Ps. 34:18; Isa. 63:8; 43:1-2,11). He is under no obligation to save those who manifest a heart of hatred toward Him, look to an Idol to save them, and who imitate his enemy and choose him as their father instead (John 8:44; Matt. 23:33).

Perhaps those ones will just live the rest of their lives until they die off because they refuse to believe and submit to Kingdom rule.  

That is the way it has been happening for thousands of years. But there is, an End (1Cor. 15:24;  1Pet. 4:7). 

When it arrives, the life most take for granted, will change.

I think of Luke 16 having some application, but don’t want to project my ideas into that chapter. 

You may be interested in this blog: https://pearl-wastefulsteward.blogspot.com 

If you have thoughts, I would be interested in knowing, but personally, it wouldn’t bother me if there is not clarity because God’s decisions are righteous and just so whatever His decision will be, will be just that.  I will look at the  links you provided, so apologize for making comment before I do further digging. 

I agree, that we need not know all that God has planned (Isa.55:8-9; Rom.11:33; Job 9:12) in order to trust in His righteousness.
I know that what I have given you... it's a lot of reading and information. I do not include all the links as necessary reading, but only to be interactive for readers, in case a statement causes a question to arise. The links are placed strategically as a preemptive response, for where a question may arise. If no question about the context arises, the link need not be read. 

What really counts, is reading the scriptures in the post as you come to them. 
If the scriptures are not read, points will be missed, and it will greatly slow one's growth and understanding. Questions may arise that may not have, if the scriptures had been read. The scriptures contain the spirit, and the spirit causes growth.

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EXCERPTS FROM A LETTER I RECEIVED:

Dearest sister Pearl, 

I continue studying articles at your Blog, but my fleshly sisters are not as eager to look into the scriptures. When the three of us had gotten together, they had not read over the material I sent them and so had not even prepared for studying. As JWs, they just want to be told what to do. They essentially have said that the information I shared is too deep, and focuses more on those anointed who rule with Jesus. Although I’ve asked both of them to do personal study and then to reconvene, neither of them responded with interest saying basically that it’s too deep and that the Bible shouldn’t be complicated. How can I respond with scriptures?

In addition, have two questions that I hope you will address. First, as I feel like I’ve read something on your blog about 2 Peter chapter 2 but now cannot find it. It asked you about that chapter and particularly verse 21 (2Pet.2:21). Do I understand correctly that this verse is essentially speaking about leaving the teachings of the false prophet after being given true understanding, but then returning to that false prophet? Would this basically be applied in our day, as leaving the organization, finding the truth, but then returning to that organization? 

My younger sister wondered why it would be imperative for “good” people to leave the organization when God can read their hearts. 

She referenced a friend who is trying to get reinstated (after 2 yrs being df’d), only so that she can talk to her family again. 

I don’t have a clear understanding on how to respond to my sister about the command at Rev.18:4-5 and the judgment of God resulting in destruction. We don’t want to have the mark of the beast, but is the penalty death? 

My second question. When sharing with a friend who is an elder, the understanding regarding the inappropriateness of anointed feeding spiritually from the Gentiles, there is great likelihood the elder will respond that it is not they who feed the anointed but that they are helpers and more or less servants helping the GB dispense “food at proper time.”  Now, to me, it is clear that the GB are false prophets and thus the “food” is not healthy (rotten fruit), but am just wondering about a concise and simple response to the likely aforementioned rebuttal an elder might give.  

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MY REPLY:

First, perhaps you could show your sisters these few scriptures:

1Cor.3:1-2; 2:10; Rom.11:33; Heb.5:11-14; Mark 4:33; Matt.7:7; Eph.4:13;  2Pet.3:15-16,17-18

Persistent effort is needed to gain an understanding of the deep things of God. If we gain and heed that knowledge, the reward, is everlasting life (John 17:3).

Your first question:

Here is the context of 2Pet.2: 

"20 For if, having escaped the world’s impurity through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in these things and defeated, the last state is worse for them than the first. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy command delivered to them. 22 It has happened to them according to the true proverb: A dog returns to its own vomit, and, “a sow, after washing itself, wallows in the mud.”

Both fleshly Jew and Gentile, escape Satanic darkness/deception, when they are enlightened by the truths of Jesus Christ. 

Many Jews returned to a practice of the Law (see Gal.4:9). Many Gentiles too, found it difficult to keep away from their previous idolatry (1Cor.10:14-15,16-17,18-19,20-21,22). Think of how may xJWs who have lost family, have returned to get re-instated, so that the shunning would stop. Jesus told us this circumstance would happen (Luke 12:51-53; Mark 13:12-13; John 16:2).....

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html

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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-mans-enemies-will-be-persons-of-his.html

.....and he told us how to handle it (Matt.10:36-37; Luke 14:26; 17:31-32,33).

How many anointed, have received "the holy command" (2Pet.2:21), to love their brothers in Christ (John 13:34), only to later command that they be persecuted (Luke 12:45; Rev.13:11,15)?

Even many who profess having been anointed and are out of the WT, have entered into envy, competition, and strife (1Cor.1:10; 11:18-19)... nurturing the very WT spirit of dominance they left behind.

Christ cleanses his bride members from all sin (1John 1:7; 4:16-18,19-21) which affords love, fellowship, and unity amid his faithful body members (Eph.4:3;  1Cor.12:12,25-26,27; Eph.4:11-12,13). 

But there are those who succumb to pride, and return to not being cleansed of sin or falsehood (a "sow, who returns to wallowing in the mud" -2Pet.2:22). Many anointed who had rejected falsehood, founded in the unloving pride of the steward above them... retain and return to false teachings (even false WT doctrine -Mark 2:22; Luke 17:31-32), stubbornly refusing to be mild and humble in considering direction by scripture and spirit (Rev.5:6; 1:20; Jer.25:4; Matt.5:15; Rev.22:16; John 13:20; Matt.10:20;  1Cor.14:32,3,29; Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Cor.4:1; Amos 3:7).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=prophets+a+god+of+order

All anointed have been given a testimony as to the love of God and his spirit and truth. ANY of them, can later reject that testimony, reject the unity of the body under Jesus as head, and not realize that they have resumed walking in darkness (John 12:35). 

That also ties in with Luke 17:31 and Matt.9:17, which I cited above in the first section of this letter. 

If, upon their exodus from the WT, one does not get a clean slate mentally; that old false doctrine may creep back into their spiritual perception, and prevent them from being clean. Like a lens that is smudged with dirt, their "eye" is unhealthy, and light cannot reach their body (Matt.6:22-23). 

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/02/pluck-out-your-eye.html

They can return and resort to eating that which they had previously rejected (dog,vomit).

If that does not address your question, please respond.

Regarding your question about your sister's thought that there are good people in the WT, who do not deserve to be condemned.... consider 2Thess.2:9-12. Those inside believe "the lie"... that their leaders, who confess being uninspired and fallible, who continually change their teachings, who trample down the brothers of Christ, condemning many of them to death... is an organization directed by the spirit of God. 

Why do they believe this obvious lie? 2Thess.2:10,12 told us that they do not have sufficient love of truth, and that they enjoy unrighteousness. How? 

Do they not enjoy feeling superior, when someone faithful is vilified and expelled? I have seen it (Rev.11:7-8,9-10; Matt.5:10-11,12).

Please consider Gen.18:32 and Jer.5:1.

Do you see that God will not even abandon one single person to destruction, if they are righteous? Why are we told with urgency, even by Jesus, to flee? (Matt.24:15-16; 18:4-5; Jer.51:6; Luke 17:26-37). All those of righteous heart, will be "taken" and invited to feast upon the slain. The rest will be abandoned to what they have chosen....

       (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=taken+abandoned+eagles+slain)

....Because the destruction of the corrupt, blasphemous, throne of Satan... Must go Down... along with everyone who is a coward or loves a lie (Rev.22:15). 

Those who slave for the false prophet and it's Beast, have succumbed to the agents of the "last enemy, Death" (1Cor.15:24-25,26; Rev.6:7-8).

This links to follow may also help with this part of your questions. 

It is a search result, and contains many posts on a few pages. You should read at least the first few results: 

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=hide+herald+stay+flee

NOTE: When God abandons the wicked to Destruction... He is not destroying them. He is accepting a surrender to the god, lord, and father they themselves have chosen, which is, the Destroyer.

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/11/who-is-destroyer.html

Your second question...

It is asserted that the elders are helpers to the anointed, because there are not enough anointed to care for the flock. Perhaps you could ask how the elders help anointed, that are not the GB. If a lesser anointed one, disagrees with the GB in favor of scripture; What do the elders do to them? 

Yet what did Jesus say, at Matt.25:45-46? 

Why do the elders condemn such ones to death? Is it not because the GB has ordered this policy, to "beat" any who do not submit to them? 

Yet Jesus said at Mark10: "42 Jesus called them over and said to them, “You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles dominate them, and their men of high positions exercise power over them. 43 But it must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 44 and whoever wants to be first among you must be a slave to all."

It is up to Jesus upon his return, to reveal which of his slaves have proven to be genuine, faithful, and discreet slaves of all (Matt.25:19,21; Rom.8:19). But Jesus did give us guidance, to help us to find the answer to who is working faithfully (Matt.7:20).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/who-really-is.html

It must also be asked... in what capacity do the elders, serve? What is their job description, so to speak?

Do they not preside over cases of sin... pray in behalf of sinners, and do the teaching in the congregations?

They may not recognize it, but that is serving in the capacity designated to God's priests (1Cor.6:1-2,3). The NWT translates Gal.6:1 as "those with spiritual qualifications", which allows the original words to be lost. Literally, it reads... those who are 'inspired by/walk/are lead, by spirit'. 

It is pneuma (breath/spirit) -tikos (to own) (John20:22) and is G4152 in Strong's Greek dictionary.

The Bible defines such ones (who "re-adjust" a sinner), as "God's sons" (Rom.8:14-15,16-17; John 20:21-22,23). Those who are designated by God to teach God's nation, are His priests (Mal.2:7;  1Cor.4:1;  1Pet.2:5,9; Rev.5:9-10).

In fact, Eze.44:6-7,8-9 and  2Chron.13:9 condemned the leaders of Israel, for letting others serve as priests. 
---(The Hebrew interlinear should be consulted for the verses in Eze.44:6-9, or any other Bible but the NWT, because they changed the wording of Eze.44:6-9).---[Since this lack of translation fidelity was exposed, the new NWT has corrected Eze.44:6-9. To see proof of their past error, consult a copy of their earlier translation.]

Do you remember the lesson of this account?

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+13%3A8-14&version=VOICE

God's anointed priesthood and spiritual Temple (Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Pet.2:5;  1Cor.3:16;  2Thess.2:1-2,3-4) is not to be performed by any who are not so consecrated (2Chron.23:6-7). 

This is the very definition of the "disgusting thing/abomination"... standing in the "holy place/Temple" which "causes desolation" to that priesthood/Temple (Mark 13:14; Rev.11:2; 13:7).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/02/abomination-causing-desolation.html

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https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com

Jesus said that when we are able to perceive those circumstances, we are to Flee!

(Mark 13:14; Rev.18:4-5; Jer.51:6; Luke 17:26-27,28-29,30-31,32)

The elder in question, may not be granted to have that perception (Mark 4:12).

If you try to impart it to him, he may fulfill his actual place, which really is, to uphold the idolatry toward the Image of the Beast (Rev.13:15; 11:2-3,7; John 16:2)... 

...not to assist, serve, and support, the least of Jesus' anointed brothers... who are now being trampled down into powerlessness, and condemned to death, by Gentile, so-called, "elders". 

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-is-jew-what-is-gentile-answers-to.html

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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html

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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/02/who-is-false-prophet-who-gives-breath.html

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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html

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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/tails-stingers-scorpions-rev910.html

Please let me know if my reply, and especially the scriptures I have cited within, are of sufficient number to care for your need.

Love in Christ,

Pearl

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