Sunday, December 2, 2012

Earth "swallows" Satan's River

"So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, 
that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. 
But the earth helped the woman, 
and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood 
which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth." Rev.12:15,16


Hi Pearl,
I am wondering about this point:
You wrote:
"Sadly, this is true of both anointed and non-anointed. Most swallow the lies coming from Satan's mouth" -Rev 12:15,16
Rev 12:
15 And the serpent disgorged water like a river from its mouth after the woman, to cause her to be drowned by the river. 16 But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon disgorged from its mouth".

It seems that it is for the woman's sake (in order to help her) that the earth opens its mouth, otherwise that 'water' would cause the woman to be drowned.
We are told at Rev.12:13 "when the dragon saw that it was hurled down to the earth,"...
So, Do you think that such event: ''the serpent disgorging water like a river from its mouth after the woman" would have a future fulfillment? Satan must first be hurled down.
For me, in my ignorance, it seems that Rev 12:16 will have a future fulfillment and somehow "the earth"  (no anointed ones) will help the anointed ones somehow...maybe standing for the truth with "its mouth" as order to neutralize Satan's water (lies)?
Matthew 15: 11 "Not what enters into [his] mouth defiles a man; but it is what proceeds out of [his] mouth that defiles a man.”
How you see that? How does 'the earth come to the woman’s help,'

My reply:
I'll take apart the verses you are asking about, to show what the Bible has to say.

"So the serpent"  see Rev.12:9 
The serpent is the Devil.

"spewed water"
The Bible symbolizes spiritual provisions as "water", because these are essential for life.
These can either be refreshingly healthful to impart everlasting life (John 4:10,14; Joel 3:18; Rev.22:1; Eze.47:7,8,9,12); 
or bitter poison to impart death 
(Rev.8:11; Jer.9:15; 23:15; Eze.34:19; 47:11). 
That adulterated "water", is Satanic deception and delusion, the realm and agents of which, are compared to the "sea"/"deep"/"abyss"/"pit"/"Sheol"/"Hades"/"hell" 
(Isa.51:10; 57:20; Rev.13:1; 11:7; 8:8; 16:3; Zech.10:11; 14:8). 
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Like sea water, it is undrinkable; except for those creatures which are "at home" in this sea, and naturally belong there 
(Eze.29:4; Amos 4:2; Rev.20:13; 21:1; Jer.6:23; Rev.9:7,10; Isa.5:14).

The abyss of death, is comparable to Satan's mouth (1Pet. 5:8; Prov.27:20; 30:16). 
Satan/the "serpent", is over this sea/abyss/deep, and the river that issues from it. 
(Job 41:1,4,15,18,19,21,22,24,25,31,32,33,34; Rev.9:11,2,3; Eze.32:2; Job.26:6; Isa.27:1; Ps.74:14; Rev.12:3; Gen.3:15; Jer.51:35,36; Isa.11:15; Rev.16:12).

"out of his mouth"
In the time of the end, Satan forcefully "spews" this fluid from his mouth. Because this water is aimed with force and direction, it is said to be "like a river"/"flood". 
What is Jesus telling us, when it says that this "water" comes from Satan's "mouth"? 
Jesus also said, 
"The devil....does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of the lie." (John 8:44) 
Satan's "resources" are told to us... 
(Rev.16:13; 13:2; 12:9; 20:7-8;  2Chron. 18:21). 
He is using the "false prophet" and the "Wild Beast", empowering that Beast and prophet with every worldly resource he possesses (Rev.13:2,11,13,7; Rev.9:1,10; Eze.14:15; Rev.13:17).

"like a flood after the woman"
These spiritual "waters" that Satan spews at the "woman" (through the Beast and false prophet), can not be the "living water" of Truth. 
No. This river from Satan's mouth...
       (Matt.12:34; Num.21:6; Rev.9:2,3), 
...are powerful lying signs and portents (2Thess. 2:9) and the messengers that carry them (Dan.9:26-27; 11:10; Joel 2:2)...    (
...intended to destroy the "woman"/promise/New Covenant hope for the remaining ones of the woman's seed. 

"that he might cause her to be 'carried away' by the flood"
Please consider how those belonging to the woman/covenant, could be "carried away" (2Pet. 3:17; Heb.13:9) by Satanic deception (Isa.28:15,19)...
2Pet. 3:17; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10; Luke 21:24; Rev.11:2; Dan.8:10-12; Eph.5:6; Matt.24:24-25;  1Thess. 3:5;  1Tim. 6:20;  2Cor. 11:3-4; Rev.2:20; Eph.4:14 (1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8)  

"but the earth helped the woman"
The "earth" is not the "sea". 
The boundary between them, is the "shore" or, the "sands of the sea" (Rev.13:1). Satan is able to breach the "earth", through the Wild Beast which comes from the sea, but comes up onto the earth. 
The "sea" is made of spiritual Gentiles along with the deceptive powers that keep them blinded. Within the "earth" are the unsealed priests/spiritual "Jews", symbolized by "trees" within the "earth" (Rom.2:29; Isa.61:3;  1Cor. 3:9; Acts 7:48-49; Eph.2:22) (

It is important to note that at this later point in context when the "earth" helps the woman, the "woman" and the "earth" are distinguished as separate. 
In verse 12 we read:
"Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
This woe occurs to the "earth" (Rev.7:3; 9:4; Eze.32:18,19) after all that are to be taken from it, are sealed in heaven (Rev.7:4; 6:9-11; 7:9,13-14). 
At the point that the "earth" helps the "woman", they are already separated....weed anointed who have not yet proven faithful 
       (earth Rev.12:4;  2Pet. 3:7,10; James 3:15), 
from wheat anointed who are sealed 
       (heavens Eph.2:6; Rev.12:5; Col.3:1; Luke 10:19; Rev.14:3,4; Heb.12:22,23 "from among mankind"/from God's "earth"/from the "tribes of Israel" -Rev.14:3,4; 7:4; Rom.2:28,29; Matt.22:14).
        "Mankind", "earth", and "Israel" are each symbolic for the same identity. 
Those "taken" from the earth, are sealed (Matt.24:40,28; Rev.12:14). 
Rev.12:17 describes those who face the final test and battle, as "the remaining ones of the woman's seed" 
(Rev.7:9,13-14; 20:7-9; 12:9,17; Luke 21:20,24; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7; 11:2; Rev.2:10).

The woman/Covenant is "helped" by the earth which fails to reject Satanic waters, because it is precisely by their failure that the distinction between the "wheat and weeds" is accomplished 
(Mal.3:18;  1Cor. 11:18-19; Matt.13:30; Rev.10:5,6). 

When the seventh angel/final prophet, places his victorious right and left foot on the "earth" and "sea" (Rev.10:2-3,7; Isa.58:1; Rom.16:20); the distinction between the "earth" and "sea" is established and declared. 
Then there will be no more delay in the unfolding fulfillment of prophecy. (Rev.10:5,6; Dan.12:7 c; Eze.12:28)!

It may not seem likely that the failure of some anointed "help"s the Covenant to survive Satanic deception, [and her seed to receive the crown of life (Rev.2:10; Mark 8:35)]; but the very persecution and expulsion, (spiritual "death") inflicted by the unfaithful, is what seals each member of both sides, either favorably or unfavorably.
(Rev.6:9,11; 17:6; 11:7; Luke 21:19;  2Cor. 12:10; James 1:2; Matt.5:11,12; Rom.5:3,4). 
In addition, as these who fail are mislead into deepening lawlessness and doctrinal error (Matt.24:12), it helps awaken others as to the error (Matt.24:15).
What scriptural evidence is there, to prove that the "earth" swallowing Satan's lies, does not mean that they are destroying those lies, but are "swallowing"/believing them? (Matt.23:24;  2Cor. 11:4,20)

"and the earth opened it's mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.
(Eze.32:2; 34:19; Isa.30:28)
We need only look at the other verses which talk about this same "earth", to see this is true.
Rev.12:4,9,12; 19:2,19; 16:1,2,14; 1:7; 17:2,4,8; 14:18,19; (Joel 3:13) Rev.11:10,18; 8:5; 20:2,11; 6:10,13; 13:3,8,12,14
-- Do these verses sound like the earth destroys Satan's lies, 
or like the earth swallows/believes them, so that the earth is mislead?
Human's can not contend with Satanic deception on their own 
(Job 41:8,9,10,11,26,27,28,29; Eph.6:10,11,13; Rev.13:4; 16:13,14,15;  2Thess.2:10).

Any who do not have the protection of holy spirit (Zech.4:6; Luke 21:36), will not succeed in rising up from the "earth", to join the new "heavens" (Eph.2:6; Matt.24:24; Luke 10:19; Rev.14:3,4; 5:9; Heb.12:22,23; 11:16; Phil.3:20;  2Tim. 4:18;  2Pet. 3:13).

According to present false teachers, there is also the belief that the "earth" represents the sealed anointed, and that these "swallow" Satan's lies in the form of destroying those lies through their writings... swallowing them up as YHWH "swallows up death forever" (Isa.25:8). It is thought that in this way, those anointed writers/witnesses, save the woman Covenant. 
This is good reasoning. But in harmony with the scriptural interpretation of the above...
the "earth" saves the woman, by being surrendered to Satan's power (they swallow and believe Satan's lies).... and replace the woman as Satan's victim (Isa.43:4).

In a sense, they become a ransom exchange in place of the woman/Covenant; so that instead of Satan drowning the woman, the earth is given up, instead (Luke 17:26,27). This is righteous on God's part, because his people ("earth"/"land") want it that way.(2Thess. 2:10,11,12; Jer.5:31; Isa.28:15,17,18,19,21,22).

For scriptures to show this?
Please read Isaiah 43:1,2,3,4; Prov.21:18; 11:8
Hosea 13:14 --(see NIV "ransom")
By the earth's desire to swallow Satan's lies; a clear distinction is established between these disloyal ones, and genuine lovers of YHVH and truth (Mal.3:18;  2Chron. 16:9; Zech.4:10). 
That successful sifting spares the *"woman" Covenant*, by causing the remaining ones of her seed to take their solid stand for truth, despite the threats and pains incurred. 
(Eze.3:8,9; Isa.50:8; Matt.24:21,22; Rev.12:11; 6:9; 20:4; Mark 8:35).


Regarding your citation of Matt.15:11; Jesus was teaching the Jews that physical statutes matter less than the spiritual lesson and application behind the symbolism of those physical statutes. He was speaking of literal material forbidden foods as not defiling a person's spirit. 
this "river" being disgorged from Satan's mouth is not literal and material. As the rest of Revelation's symbols, it has spiritual meaning and application. Taking Satan's misleading deceptions into ones self (as the "earth" does, at Rev.12:16), does corrupt. Scriptures which show this, are 2Cor. 11:3; Gen.3:1,3.

Your point of Matt.15:11 though, does help to enforce the proper interpretation of what happened in Eden.(



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