Friday, December 21, 2018

Times and Seasons

Acts 1:7 reads;
"Jesus said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority."

Jesus said; "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only." (Matt.24:36)
We see from this, that at the point at which Jesus said these things, no one but the Father possessed the knowledge of when the end would come (Acts 1:6-7). Regarding the time of the end, we are told at Dan.12:4,8-10 that there would be secrets of prophecy that would be sealed up *until the time of the end.
Rev.22:10 confirms that there is information that is due to open up in the time of the end, as that scroll's pictorial prophecies that describe the end, are fulfilled. When they are "about to take place", the secrets of the end are opened, so that the timing of them is no longer a secret (Rev.1:1). Jesus sends his messenger angel, a prophet, to tell those things (Rev.22:6) when they become known to him.
How does that messenger, know that it is the time of the end, and the time for Revelation to be fulfilled? How does that messenger know what to declare? How does that messenger know what the book of Revelation, means?
Rev.1:1 tells us, that it is Jesus who sends that messenger, to describe the events of the end "soon to take place". Obviously at that point, Jesus knows the time of the end.
How do we know, that the time arrives for the knowledge of times and seasons, only previously possessed by the Father, to be given to Jesus?
At John17:10, Jesus said of the Father; "All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me."
John16:15 - "All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you. 12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and **he will tell you what is yet to come**. 14 He will glorify me because **it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.**"
(Rev.1:1) (Mal.3:1-4; Zech.2:10-12,9; Eze.33:33; John17:23; Zech.4:8-9,13-14,11; Rev.11:3-4)

At John16:15, Jesus tells us that what the Father possesses, is given to the son, and the son in turn, shares that Word, with his messenger/angel (John15:15), who relays it to John, and the "seven congregations" (John17:8; Rev.1:1,10-11).
Note the scene described at Dan.7:
"9 “As I looked,
“thrones were set in place,
    and the Ancient of Days took his seat.
His clothing was as white as snow;
    the hair of his head was white like wool.
His throne was flaming with fire,
    and its wheels were all ablaze.
10 A river of fire was flowing,
    coming out from before him.
Thousands upon thousands attended him;
    ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.
The court was seated,
    ***and the books were opened.***
13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence."
"1 Then I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne, a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. [Acts1:7; John16:12] 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.” 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne."
Jesus receives knowledge from the Father after his death (Rev.5:9), and is given permission to open what was previously sealed. After Jesus gains that knowledge, he sends his messenger to relay it to his congregation (John15:15; Rev.1:1; 22:16; Mal.3:1-3).
Rev.20: "11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, ***and books were opened*** [Dan.7:10]. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books." (
Rev.22: "6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place. 10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near."
Yes, knowledge of times and seasons rests with the Father. He shares it with his son, and his son, shares it with his faithful Body members by means of his messenger prophet... when it is the time to do so.... in the time of the end.

Thursday, December 20, 2018

thousand years / angels / the final test / God's organization

Here is part of a letter I received, and below it, my reply.

From a reader:
I have some trouble understanding your articles. It´s like grasping water. When I think I got something then I just can´t hold it. I´ll have to ask you to write me in a very plain and direct way. Next, I´ll ask you some questions. Please answer them as simple as you can and add any information you consider necessary but be straight.
I´m a teacher. I´m educated and intelligent (I have the capacity of relating information and data), I tell you this so you can feel confident about being direct. I have an open mind and I don´t have resistance to change or correction. Plus I´ll be praying YHWH for guidance.
The thousand year reign is the same that the heaven hope? Is this what Jesus had in mind when he said you´d be like angels? Will you be angels with the ability of materializing, coming down to earth and going up to heaven at will? Is that what the new creation, being sons of God, means? The rest of us will be blood and flesh human, attached to earth,  for ever?
As a priest you are for me, I´ll be very honest.
When YHWH revealed me who the wild beast was, I automatically discarded everything I knew. I understood we were deceited to believe lies disguised as truth. One of the first teachings I questioned, was the heaven hope. I always thought it was kind of "babylonic", you know what I mean. I always believed that the one obsessed with heavenly immortal life was Satan, the demons and their worshippers (he even deceited Eve telling her that she´d be like God)  and that the flood events were the origin of this hope. Since I´m not anointed, I understand that I can´t comprehend what this hope means to you and that my doubts in this issue are for ignorance.  I have to recognize, also, that during these two months I begun longing for being anointed (during some time I thought that being anointed was the only way YHWH approved us).I understood then  (Thanks to your posts and Obediah´s) that this was not the case and I felt really happy. But I also started feeling a little jealous (in a curious way) about your hope and wonder what is wrong with us, Will this affect us? Could this feeling lead us to behave like the Devil, desiring something that doesn´t belong to us? (That´s what I felt when I read Perimeno´s blog, I felt so little-nothing, like that we being faithful didn´t matter at all, that you are anointed or you are nothing, that was my feeling, and I knew that couldn´t be from YHWH). I absolutely trust YHWH´s justice an love and I understand he always does the best for his creation. I also understand that there is hierarcy in heaven so it´s logic to have an organised arrangement in earth. I´d appreciate you could explain this better for me.
Will there be a final test? You wrote this (The Babylonic WT captivity) is the greatest deceit from Satan. But also, I understood, you say there´ll be a final test. Is that the attack of Gog and Magog? Will you, the anointed ones, be free of it? Is it only for us?
How shall I include Jesus in my prayers? Can I thank him? How can I be sure YHWH likes my prayers?
I´ve changed a lot the way, the words and expressions I use in my prayers. But I want to improve.
Have you read the book of Enoch? I really believe that it is inspired. I also read the lost epistle for Laodicea, and the book of wisdom of Solomon, and I think they´re inspired too. The book of Enoch is really strange, different, but fits a lot with the scriptures. I ask you this because you quoted that the 66 books of the Bible could have a meaning related to the number of the beast, the truth and the lie. So that would leave out the books I mentioned. I hope you can give me your opinion on this.
This is an extra: how shall we understand the books of the judges and Esther? The book of the judges is like a list of mustn´ts. The book of Esther seems (to my eyes) disconnected from the rest.
Finally, I can see that Saul and David set a "symbolic drama" like Hagar and Sarah. Do you have anything to say about this?
Excuse me If I´ve been rude or impolite. Believe me that I´ve tried to write you the kindest I can. I find it difficult to say what I want and not be misunderstood.

My partial reply:
Now I will start to answer your questions, as simple as I can. Please read the scriptures when you reach them.

Thousand Years: This is a symbolic era. It is the period of time that Jesus has his kingdom over his anointed congregation (Eph.1:22; Col.1:18). That started in the first century (Luke22:69; Ps.110:1; 1Cor.15:25) and ends when Satan is released from the abyss (Rev.20:7). Satan's release causes the great tribulation to God's anointed people (Rev.20:7-10; Luke21:20-22,24; Rev.13:10,7; Col.2:8) because Satan uses the false prophet and wild beast, to mislead and conquer the anointed kings of the earth (Rev.16:13-16; 1Tim.4:1; Matt.24:4-5,24-25) (Rev.16:14; 5:9-10; 1:5). Those who come through this great test/tribulation, start to fight the demonic lies and battle with Jesus for the truth (Rev.16:13-16; 17:14; 19:11,14,8; 2Cor.10:3-5). That is Armageddon.
I don't know why you ask if the Thousand Years is the same as the heavenly hope, but if I understand you, the answer to that would be, No.
Be like angels: Most people do not know, that "angel" is a Greek word. It simply means, "messenger" (2Cor.4:1,5,13; 1Cor.4:1; 2Tim.4:2). God turns those who are born again as spirit, into spirits (Rom.8:9; Eph.2:6; Heb.1:7; 2:16; John3:6; 1Peter1:23). God's angels, are his messengers who are spirit. That is what the anointed become, right now inside their body of flesh. They are called to be messengers of the truth, and they are born again as spirit. God's temple of living stones (1Pet.2:5,9-10; Eph.2:20-22) is a priesthood that will serve mankind, forever (Rev.21:3; 22:3-5). The spirit place is not physical. Those who are born of both flesh and spirit and are alive in both, can be in both at once. But flesh and spirit are not the same. If you are only flesh, than you are in a place of flesh.
It is true, that those who are born as spirit, share in the divine nature, and become God's sons. They do become gods (theos).
Please see this, at 2Pet.1:4; John10:34-35; Ps.82:6; Gal.3:26

Not Anointed: There is nothing wrong with those who have not been chosen to be anointed by God's spirit. Please think about this.... Why does Jesus have a bride? Why does God appoint and anoint His priests and kings?
Jesus and his bride will have children for the new creation. Jesus is the new Adam. Jesus bride is the new Eve. They are the beginning of a new creation that is free from corruption, sin, and death. The children are not the mother. There is nothing wrong with this. What matters, is that you obey your father and mother, so that you can remain in the family and keep the life that your spiritual parents are teaching you. When our parents give us life, there is no need to be jealous of the marriage that our parents enjoy.
When God anoints a priest or king, it is for that priest or king to serve God's nation. That was the job of priest or king. It is wonderful, to belong to God's nation, even if you are not a priest or king of that nation.

God's organization: God's representation in the earth, is His Temple, made out of His priests (1Pet.2:5,9; Mal.2:7). The hierarchy, is the body of Christ. Jesus is the head. The apostles and prophets are the foundation (Eph.2:20-22; Rev.1:20), and the congregations are the support (lampstand Rev.1:20; Matt.5:14-15) to the present prophet (star, torch, lamplight, flame -- Heb.1:7; John5:35). The prophets gives God's message to all (Jer.35:15; Eze.2:7; Rev.11:3). The household/lampstand of that prophet, spread that message in support (Rev.22:17; Heb.6:10).

The Final Test: The final test, is the great tribulation. It is Satan's final great lie, that comes through the false prophet (governing body) and it's beast (organization). When we are taken into the organization because we believe that lie, that it is directed by God's spirit... then we come to the test. In the end, will we remain idolaters? Or, will we realize that only God deserves our worship, obedience, and service? Will we take a stand, that we only follow the words of our Father? Or, will we obey and believe every lie coming from men? Will we make the doctrine of men, more important than the Bible? Will we follow men as our ruler, rather than God and Jesus? That is the test that we find ourselves in, after joining the organization. 
That test is now. Gog and Magog are, the hoards belonging to the Watchtower. It is the leaders and their princely followers (Rev.9:7; 13:15). Satan created this test, because he wants to destroy the remaining ones of the anointed seed of the woman (Rev.12:17,15). 
The test is for them, but all those in the Watchtower, also are exposed to that test. The only way for the anointed to be rescued, is if God's spirit wakes them up, and then they join Jesus in the battle for truth. The only way for those who are not anointed to be rescued, is if God's spirit wakes them up, gives them spiritual sight, and they go to feed on the faithful, who have been slain for truth (Luke17:37; Rev.11:7; 6:9-11; 19:14). If people go to the faithful to be fed, they will be accepting their invitation to the marriage feast.

Prayer: Jesus helped us with prayer, at Matt.6:5-13. You can also look at Luke11:1-13 and Eph.6:18.
Now that you are learning more about God's work in the present time, your prayers can have more meaning, and you will know better, what to ask for in accord with Matt.6:10.

Bible books: Satan knows the Bible (Luke4:10). He is always working to muddy the waters of truth (Eze.34:18-19; 32:2; Isa.27:1). He twists the scriptures in the hope that the truth of the Bible will be hidden. Yet he makes the lies, resemble the truth, so that he can deceive those seeking the truth. -- While books that are outside the Bible, may appear to be connected to the scriptures... that is not a reason to accept them as a part of the Bible. If they are genuine, they will not contain anything that contradicts the scriptures or the teaching of spirit and of Jesus. Yes, I have read from Enoch, and have found error in it.

Esther and Judges: 2Tim3:16-17 reads; "16 All Scripture is inspired by God[a] and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."
While we personally, may still be learning the meaning and benefit of a Bible book, this does not mean that the book is of no benefit, or that the benefit that we presently can perceive, is the only benefit that it contains. There is much symbolism and prophecy in all the Bible books, to be useful to us today...
"For whatever was written in the past was written for our instruction, so that we may have hope through endurance and through the encouragement from the Scriptures." (Rom.15)
"11 These things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our instruction, on whom the ends of the ages have come." (1Cor.10)

David and Saul: Yes, both David and Saul were men, and they had the common nature of men. What happened to both of them, can happen to any of God's servants, priests, and kings. Saul and David are a good example of what is happening today, with the governing body and other anointed. The governing body are seeking to kill through disfellowshipping, any who endanger their position. They do not want to respect that God has anointed others to replace them. Yet David did sin by adultery. The anointed today commit spiritual adultery (Rev.2:20; 13:7-8). Yet like David, God will consider them faithful, after they repent in sackcloth (Rev.11:3; 7:14).

I am happy that you wrote to me. I hope that with the scriptures, your good questions have been answered. Please let me know if my reply is helpful, or if you need more. There is much more that has been written at the Blog, but you said you want it simple. Perhaps when you translate the posts using the translator, you will be able to learn more from your own language.

Friday, August 31, 2018

Discerning the Ten Virgins / Called, Chosen, and Faithful

Matt.25:1-13 reads;
“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.
6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’
7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’
9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.
11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’
12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’
13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour."

Rev.17:14 indicates to us, that there are three attributes held out to each of the elect. First, they are "Called" by Gods' spirit, to the course and reward of Christ. The response to that call by the ten virgins, is pointed to at Matt.25:1... "the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.".
John14:1-6; Isa.64:8; Luke1:17; Job 11:13-18; John17:21,23; 14:23; 1Cor.3:9,16
All ten, turn their attention to the teaching and example of Jesus, in their intent to draw near to him in their understanding, spiritual perception, source of inspiration, behaviour, disposition, and aspirations.

Despite those common goals among the ten Called, only five were wise enough, to keep the oil of holy spirit with them as they went out (Jude 1:3; Rev.3:3; Heb.10:32). The foolish, went only with their lamps. What does this mean?

The wise, never relinquished the conviction, that holy spirit alone should be honored and obeyed as the source of ones' understanding, perception, behaviour, and beliefs (1John2:20,27; Luke 4:18; 1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20; 4:4,7-8,11-12; 2:6; 4:8). The wise are keenly aware that their continuing light is dependent upon retaining a vessel, filled with oil (1Cor.12:8; Col.1:9; 3:16; 1Cor.14:15; John14:20). Holy spirit remains as their touchstone, in times of need.
The foolish assumed that the token which they first received, would suffice for the entire journey. They are overconfident, and unprepared for the testing that lay ahead. For this reason, they fail to commence to the next level of election... namely "Chosen". By abandoning their connection to Jesus and God's spirit through him, the foolish have failed to remain on the path of Jesus' teaching and example (John15:4,7; 8:31). As a result, they are not Chosen to be graced with a deeper understanding of the mysteries of God.

Next we are told, that the bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep (Matt.25:5).

Why does the Master/Bridegroom, delay?
Paul referred to a premature declaration by false prophets, that the bridegroom had arrived (2Thess.2:1-3; Luke 17:22; 12:45; Matt.24:23-25).
Such false teaching, if taken in and believed, makes us expect the Bridegroom, too soon.
When the progressive evidence of that promised arrival does not appear, and proof is delayed; those in expectation grow drunk and drowsy (Eph.5:18). They fail to remain alert to the genuine, stealth arrival of the Bridegroom
(Mark 13:34-37; Luke 12:35-40; 21:34; 1Thess.5:7,2-6; Rev.18:3; Titus 1:7; Luke 12:45-46).
The vigins have not been given "the proper food (information) at the proper time" (Luke12:42), because the steward appointed to feed them, is proving false/unfaithful/uninspired.

All ten virgins, succumb to the darkness of that deception (Matt.24:24-25; 1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 19:20; Rev.13:11,7-8; Dan.7:21,25; 8:9-14,23-24; 11:16,31-34,35-37; 2Thess.2:4; 1Pet.2:5), a false sense of peace and security, and the postponement of their expectations. Due to the wine of the wicked steward, they all fall asleep.

Matt.25: 6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’ "

A herald is heard, to rouse them to their senses!
(Matt.25:6; Isa.51:17; Rom.13:11; Eph.5:14; Isa.60:1).
They are directed by this herald, to "go out to meet" Jesus.
What does that mean?
Heb.13:13; Mark13:13
Are all the virgins willing to do all that is required to imitate the full course of Jesus (Rev.14:4; 1Pet.2:21), so that they can attain to the final step and be sealed as "Faithful"? (Rev.17:14)

Upon being roused, it is then time for all the awoken virgins, to evaluate their lamps (Matt.6:22-23; 2Cor.13:5). They "trim off" the remnants of past light from their tongue, in order to ignite freshly, the wick rooted in their reservoir of oil (Luke6:45; 2Cor.1:22).
Matt.25: "7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’ "

Verse 8 provides a clear marker, which helps us to distinguish the "Chosen" elect, from those who have lost holy spirit and have not progressed beyond "Called". It shows us the distinction between those who are chosen to be given more, in contrast to those who are set to lose, even what they think they know (Luke 8:18; Matt.25:23).

Those who lack spirit upon their awakening, seek to acquire it from those who maintained discretion when faced with deception, and held on tightly to spirit and truth (1Thess.5:21). Having lost their connection to Christ (Col.2:19), the foolish virgins seek to have bright lamps by siphoning off light from those who have retained spirit.
You will recognize such foolish ones, by catching them robbing as their own, the insight and perception of others. They would rather feign their wisdom through impersonation and robbery, than turn to Jesus in repentance.
What is this error, from which they need to repent?
The next verse tells us, because the wise virgins clearly see the folly of the foolish (Eph.5:11).

Matt.25:9 “‘No,’ the wise replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’ "

Genuine holy spirit/oil, does not need to be paid for through enslavement to "those who sell" (Rev.13:17; Luke 11:13; Isa.55:1-2). Yet that is what those foolish virgins have settled for (2Cor.11:4). They have taken their fear, obedience, and need for approval away from Jesus.
In order to "buy" a different spirit/oil, they seek the approval of corrupt men, and give them fear and obedience. They have sold themselves to a different Master.
Rather than being willing to continue to progress on the courageous path of Jesus, they shrink back as cowards... afraid to face the enemies of truth, and die for their outspoken testimony (Rev.13:11,15,7; 9:6). Instead of contending with the enemies of truth, they submit to them.
They secretly subject themselves in fear, to the expectations of the last harlot and her beast (Prov.29:25; 2Cor.11:2-3,20,13) and are unwilling to finish the painful course of Christ (Luke 9:23; Rom.6:3; Rev.6:9-11; 12:11).
They are truly foolish, because they believe that God cannot see what they are doing. God knows that the light they pretend to have, is stolen from the receptacles of the faithful.... paid for by being deceptive impostors, and through a compromise of integrity. God sees that they refuse to love truth to the death, while they cringe in fear of men. They are unworthy of the light of Christ.
Any light that the foolish appear to shine, was not given to them by the faithful, voluntarily. The foolish paid for that light with their integrity, and their lives, due to their fearful subjection to an Idol.

Matt.25:10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut."

The foolish virgins did not go out to meet the bridegroom (Heb.13:13; Rom.6:5), because they were away, buying different oil (2Cor.11:4).
How were the wise virgins, "ready"?
Luke 12:35-40; Rev.3:20; 2:7,17,28; 1John5:4; Heb.11:1-2
The wise virgins have been victorious over the agents of deception and death (Mark 8:35; John16:2). They now have the glory of Christ, which he received through his own faithful death (John12:23-26; Rom.8:17). They are now sealed as Faithful slaves of God (Rev.7:3; Deut.11:18; Jer.31:33; Isa.59:21; Rev.17:14).

In what way was the door, shut?
Rev.22:14-15; 21:27; Luke 24:32,45; 8:10; Isa.29:11; Dan.12:10

11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’ 12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you."
(Rev.3:8) (2Cor.4:4; Luke 10:19; Col.1:13)
Can Jesus discern those who have upheld their honesty and integrity, died for the truth, and are tireless in their testimony from spirit? Can he recognize those impostors, who rob light from the lamps of the faithful, and at the same time, cringe in fear of men? Does Jesus know his own sheep? John10:14,27; 1Cor.8:3; 13:12
Due to God's mercy, the foolish are given one more warning...

Matt.25: 13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour."

The faithful have no need to be told what time it is (1Thess.5:1-6).
Those who do not know the day or hour, are told to open their eyes and wake up! (Rev.3:3). For the unrepentant impostors, their accounting with the Master will come like the flood of Noah's day, in which those who refused to listen, were all swept away (Luke 17:26; 2Pet.3:17; Rev.12:15-16; Eph.5:6-8; Isa.59:19; Dan.11:10; 9:26; Joel 2:2; Matt.24:21-22).



Monday, July 9, 2018

Radio Program -- "Healing River"

In cooperation with the Six Screen Network, recordings of the audio program, "Healing River", are now available.

Here are links to past episodes, for those who would like to listen:

 Introduction (aired July 8, 2018)

Episode One: What is Hades? (aired July 22, 2018)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Two: 1914 - Part One (aired Aug. 5, 2018)

Episode Three: 1914 - Part Two (aired Aug. 19, 2018)
       For info. about 1914, see many posts at this link:

(SEPT.2: No program due to illness)

Episode Four: End of the Thousand Years (aired Sept. 16, 2018)
       To follow along with the scriptures and outline:

Episode Five: End of the Thousand Years continued (Aired Oct.14, 2018)
       To follow along with the scriptures and outline:

Episode Six: Continuation of Rev.20:1-10 / Lake of Fire / Four Living Creatures (Aired Oct.28, 2018)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Seven: Sighing and Groaning (Aired Nov.11, 2018)
(This episode has audio interruptions of silence. I hope to repair)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Eight: Can the Watchtower, Crumble? (Aired Nov.25, 2018)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Nine: What is the Mark of the Beast? (Aired Dec.9, 2018)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Ten: Where an Genuine Spirit and Truth be found(Aired Dec.23, 2018)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Eleven: Yhvh's Genuine Organization / Mountain (Aired Jan.6, 2019)
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:

Episode Twelve: Yhvh Name / Winepress - "Watchtower" error / outlook of future work (Aired Jan.20,2019)
(Last Episode of Healing River with six Screens).



Wednesday, July 4, 2018

Programs of Sept.16 and Oct.14, 2018 [] Revelation, ch.20, verses 1-10

This written post below, should be used as a backdrop to the
                    recorded program of Sept.16, located here:
                    recorded program of Oct.14, located here:
                    recorded program of Oct.28, located here:
This post below, contains the pop up scriptures that are cited during the audio programs,
so that you may follow along with ease.


In previous programs, we covered the symbolic nature of the so-called, "thousand years" of Jesus' reign. We also covered, when Jesus reign of the symbolic "thousand years", began, and established that it started in the first century.
"Thousand Year" reign, When?
Matt.16:28; Luke 22:69; Ps.110:1; 1Cor.15:25
He is seated on a cloud, as if on a throne, because he is a king over other kings that comprise that cloud, as head of his bride congregation.

We learned that Jesus' coming on the clouds, is defined for us in the Bible:
Coming on clouds:
Heb.12:1; John1:51; Mark 12:25; Eph.2:6; Matt.10:40,14

Jesus' throne/reign is over his Bride congregation/Zion because he is "king of kings" (Rev.5:10; 19:16).
The scepter of his rule, is THROUGH Zion/cloud-witnesses of heaven
Ps.110:1-2; 2Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:10-13; 2Cor.6:7; Rev.17:14; 12:10-11

The symbolic throne of Jesus regal power and authority, is glorious (Matt.25:31).
That glorious authority and power is not seen physically, because his glory is grace and truth (John1:14), above which he is seated (Rev.22:1). 
Those who overcome the dark deceptions of Satan...
  (Eph.6:12; 1John5:4; 2:14; Rom.13:12; Isa.54:17; Luke 21:15; Eph.5:8; 1Pet.2:9), upholding Gods' truths to the death (Mark 8:35; Rom.6:5; Rev.6:9-11; 12:9,11), 
...are also granted the same power and authority over grace and truth (Rev.3:21; Luke 10:19) as kings.   They extend the ruling scepter of Jesus' throne/grace and truth, through Zion, just as Ps.110:2 states... thereby assisting Jesus in conquering his enemies and making them a footstool for his feet (Ps.110:1-2; 1Cor.15:25) by the power God supplies (Eph.6:11,13; Rom.14:4; 16:20).

Since the symbolic reign of Jesus began in the first century...
   when and why, does his reign come to an end? How do the scriptures help us to recognize the end of Jesus' "thousand year" kingdom? What would cause the power and authority of Jesus and Zion, to conclude?
  Since Jesus reign is expressed through Zion (Ps.110:2; Rev.14:1; 2Cor.5:20; John13:20);
    ...Could that reign continue, if the present members of Zion became conquered by a different power and authority? (2Cor.11:2-3,4-5,20,12-13,14-15; 1Tim.4:1)

What if the headship of Jesus over God's Temple (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20-22; 1Pet.2:5,9-10),
were taken away from Jesus, and his subjects, taken captive by his enemy?
Rev.13:7,10; Luke 21:24; Dan.8:11-12,24; 11:31,21; 2Thess.2:4; 1Cor.3:16; Rev.11:2; Matt.5:13; 2Chron.13:5; 2Cor.11:20; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7; Rev.13:16; Deut.11:18

God's Word introduces us to the thousand years, in Rev.20, as well as the reasons why, the reign of Jesus, effectually ends.
Prophecy has much to say about the end of Jesus "thousand year" reign. As we assemble the pieces of prophecy that relate to that period and its' circumstances, the picture emerges.

We are going to examine Rev.20:1-10, where the Bible depicts for us, the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus.

VERSE ONE: Rev.20:1

Establish that the abyss of Revelation, and Hades, are two ways of describing, the same place.
Rom.10:7; Acts 2:24,27,31; Rev.1:18
(Previous program covered "Hades")(Suggest Blog search: Sheol Hades)
Hades when translated, means "not perceiving" (e.g. Mark 4:12). 
As covered in previous posts and audio program, it is the consignment of all those born under sin, and its meaning is to be under a blanket of spiritual darkness, ignorance, and confusion. Only those granted light, truth, and understanding, are figuratively rescued from the realm of Hades.

When Jesus tells us that he has the keys to Hades/Abyss... this means that he has the power and authority to release whom he chooses, from spiritual darkness... and transfer into his kingdom of light and life (Matt.16:17-18; Col.1:13; Luke 8:10; 4:18-21; Isa.49:9) those who are repentant (John1:4; 5:40; Matt.13:14-15). 

Jesus also has the authority and power to lock up others... or to leave them there, in ignorance and spiritual darkness (Rev.3:7-8; Matt.13:10-11,13-16; Jude 1:13; John 12:35) those hard-hearted who are not repentant. Such ones remain under the authority and power of the Devil (2Cor.4:4; John 3:18).

When Rev.20:1 tells us that the chain of restraint that Jesus possesses is "great"; this points to the ability of Jesus, to prevent understanding and perception among the blind, but proud (John 9:41). When Jesus wraps that symbolic chain around the Devil, and then casts the Devil into the Abyss/Hades... this depicts for us, Satan's blind inability to mislead those whom Jesus rescues from darkness... because it is now Satan who is overcome by the blind confusion of his own realm.

Jesus also shares his keys (power and authority) to release from the abyss (or bind in chains of ignorance) (Matt.16:19; 18:18). Christ's enlightened and anointed brothers and royal priests, may also judge as others as repentant (John 20:23) and worthy of the treasures of truth which they are empowered by Jesus, to impart (Matt.10:7,11-14; 7:6; Rev.5:10; Mal.2:7).
 [re-read Rev.20:1]

VERSE TWO Rev.20:2

Mark 3:27; Isa.49:24-25
Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Matt.24:24-25; 19:26; Col.1:13; 1Thess.5:4-5; 2Cor.2:11
So, during the reign of Jesus, the 144,000 of Zion (Rev.14:1), are children and warrior kings, of Light 
(2Cor.4:6; Eph.5:8; 1Thess.5:5; Matt.5:14-16)(Rom.13:12; 2Cor.6:7; 1Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:12).
While the Devil is restrained in the dark abyss of Hades... he cannot perceive a method of overcoming the light within those who belong to Christ (Matt.16:18; John 1:5; Luke 10:19; Col.1:13) for the period during which, Jesus reigns over his congregations (Eph.4:14-16; John15:5)... during the symbolic "thousand years". During Christ's kingdom, the royal priesthood under Christ have spiritual perception. They are not ignorant of Satan's manipulative devices (2Cor.2:11). They have been rescued from his realm (Luke 4:18; Isa.49:9,24-25; Mark 3:27; Luke 11:21-22; Rev.20:1,2,3).

Abyss-Hades ("not perceiving"). 
How were the "nations" mislead by Satan? Who are the nations who will no longer be mislead?
We know that the world of unbelievers are already blinded by Satan (2Cor.4:4; Eph.2:2) and the world is already under Satan's influence and power (1John5:19). So the nations that Satan is not able to deceive anymore, are those belonging to Christ, just as the previous scriptures contained in our examination of Rev.20:1-2, confirm.
Those of faith are rescued from the dominion of darkness (Col.1:13; 1Pet.2:9), because the light of Christ shines in their hearts (2Cor.4:6) and the Devil is prevented from swallowing them down into darkness (2Cor.2:11; 1Pet.5:8-9).

Can the nations that are no longer deceived during Jesus "thousand years", also be at the same time, Christ's congregation? (See Rev.5:9-10; Rom.1:16; Matt.28:19)
Those of the nations that were rescued from Satanic deception, need not be of Satan's world (1John5:19).
Those of all national groups spoken of in Rev.20:3, can be of his congregation (Rev.5:10). 
Yet after Satan's release, the Bible tells us that Satan goes forth to mislead them 
(Rev.12:15,17,9; Matt.24:4; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24,20; Rev.20:9). 
For a time, he is successful, due to the success of his messengers... 
(Rev.16:13-16; 13:11,15,7-8; 9:1-3; Joel 2:2; Dan.8:11-13; Rev.11:2; 13:7; Dan.11:31-35; 12:10,7-9,3-4,1)

We see that at the same time as the thousand years ending; the Devil is set free from the abyss (Hades: "not perceiving") of blindness. He is then able to discern and perceive how to deceive the nations of God.
1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 13:7,10; Col.2:8; Matt.24:5,24-25,22
So after Satan's release, he is able mislead all the present remnant... all the previously enlightened nations belonging to God...  during the Great Tribulation (Dan.8:11-12,24; Col.2:19; John 15:5-6).

Who sits on thrones to judge the Israel of God?
Matt.19:28; Luke 22:30; Rev.21:12,14,27; 1Cor.3:10-11; Eph.2:20-22
Those who reign with Jesus before Satan's release from the abyss, never fell prey to the Beast or it's image, or were branded as it's captive slaves. According to Rev.20:5 they "came to life", first.
(Previous audio program linked above, covered how and when, disciples of the past, come to life - Col.2:13; John 5:24; Mark 8:35)
According to Rev.7:4 they are the 144,000 who reign with Jesus during his thousand year kingdom.
Those who come to life spiritually after Satan's release, are at Rev.7:9-10 and Rev.6:11 (Rev.20:5)
  Rev.7:14 - They come through the Great Tribulation. They had to "wash their robes" to remove the stain of their sin (Rev.6:9-11; Rom.6:5; Mark 8:35).
  Rev.7:16-17 - As discipline, they suffered hunger and thirst and the scorching heat of the sun (Heb.12:6; Ps.11:6; Rev.16:8; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; 58:11), before being given, living water (Rev.7:17; John4:10,14; Rev.22:17).

--So the "144000" come to spiritual life, during Jesus "thousand year" kingdom, which started in the first century. 
They were never exposed to Satan's release, nor his final machination of the Great Tribulation. They never fell prey to demonic teachings, captivity to deception, or idolatry to Satan's alliance of Beasts... the false prophet (Rev.13:11; 19:20) or the Gentile organization to which that false prophet, is benefactor (Dan.8:24; 11:23; Rev.13:15) (Rev.13:1,4,11,14-15; 16:14; 1Tim.4:1).


The rest of the dead (Rev.12:17) (Eph.2:1; Col.2:13) do not come to life (John 5:24), until after Satan is released and conquered (Rev.16:13-16; 17:4; 20:9; 11:5; Jer.5:14; Hosea 6:5) (Rev.6:7-8; 1Cor.15:26). 

The remaining ones of the woman's seed, are the ones that must contend with Satan's magnum opus of deception, channeled through the false prophet and Sea Beast (Rev.16:13-16; 1Tim.4:1), and the loss of Jesus' authority and power over his congregation (Rev.13:7; Dan.9:26; 8:11) to the anti-Christ, the Man of Lawlessness/Sin (2Thess.2:4). 

The remnant have greater tribulation and darkness to deal with, in comparison to those who reigned with Christ while Satan was still restrained in the abyss. Due to subjection to Satan's agents, the "great crowd" are made vulnerable to, the "second death", unlike their predecessors (Rev.20:6).
[Release of second death is depicted at (Rev.6:7-8; Rev.4:8; Isa.62:6) (Eze.14:4,21; Rev.6:8) and is announced by the fourth watchman of the night.]

VERSE SIX  Rev.20:6

The second death has no power over those who reign with Jesus during the 1,000 years (Luke 10:19; John 15:7-8).
The second death, is the Lake of Fire (Rev.20:14; 15:2; 4:6; Hosea 6:5; Isa.33:1; Rev.9:11; Isa.30:33; Rev.14:10; 19:20; 20:10), which means God's judgment of condemnation (Gen.19:24; Hosea 6:5; Rev.11:5; 20:9; 19:11,14; Eph.2:6)(John 15:6; 1Cor.3:11-15; 2Pet.3:7,10-12) (Jer.5:14; Rev.11:5; Matt.10:20; John 16:8 -- Rev.20:12; John 12:48; 1:14; 17:3,17).

When Satan IS released and able to deceive the holy ones (Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8), the second death is able to overpower them. 
Their idolatry toward the image of the beast...
(Rev.13:7-8,10; 2:20; 2Cor.11:4,20,3; Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; 1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 17:14), 
...causes them to come under God's condemnation (Ex.20:3-5; Rev.2:20).
Though having been born again and having received a second life of spirit (John 1:12-13; 3:6; Rom.8:9; 2Pet.1:4; John 10:35; Ps.82:6), that life/crown is stolen from them (Rev.3:11; James 1:12) and they die again, the second death, which can only occur to those who have received the second birth.

   [If they repent (Rev.2:16; 3:3,19), they can receive that crown back again (Rev.2:10; Rom.6:5)(Eze.34:13-14; Mark 13:14; Eze.7:16; Jer.31:6) (Matt.13:15; Ps.103:3; Rev.3:18; 7:14)]

When Jesus is no longer, head of his congregation; how will that disconnect, effect it? What do they lose? 
(Col.2:19,6-8; John 15:5; 8:12; 11:10; 9:4; Amos 5:20; Matt.24:29; Rev.9:1-3; Joel 2:2; Jer.13:16).
---They become vulnerable to being taken captive to deception. 
Remember Rev.13:10 (Col.2:8)
Those who are deceived after Satan's release, lose connection to Christ (Col.2:13; John 15:4-5). They surrender their royal authority (Rev.17:13; 2Chron.13:5; Matt.5:13; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:24) and become captive slaves to the false prophet and it's beast. (Rev.2:20; 13:7,10; Col.2:8)
They are idolaters, through their dedicated service to the Image of the Beast. They are no longer "alive in Christ" as the 144,000 were (1Cor.15:22; Eph.2:5; Rom.6:11). Rather than having the slave mark of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1) they are branded as slaves to the Beast (Rev.13:16,7). 
They are not immune to the "second death" as their predecessors, were.

How are those who are overcome by the Great Tribulation and it's alliance of a false prophet and Beast, to regain their crown of life? How can they come out from under the trampling and captivity, to that alliance of Satan?
There is a contrast between those who are raised from death first and exercise their power and authority as priests and kings, during the "thousand years", 
and the "rest", who come to life after the "thousand years". 
The rest, are those who face the last enemy Death, and it's agents from the abyss... the "locust scorpions", depicted collectively as the Wild Beast (Rev.9:1-3; 11:7; Joel 2:2; Eze.2:6).

So, the "thousand years" ends... Satan is released. He puts his demonic teachings/spirits, into the false prophet and Beast 
(1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 13:11,14-15; 1Kings22:21-23; Rev.19:20). 
That two-horned false prophet becomes benefactor to the Beast (Luke 22:25; Dan.8:24; 11:23), by breathing Satan's spirit and ability to deceive, into the image of the Beast (Rev.13:15). As Rev.13:7,10 tell us, the saints are then conquered and taken captive (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10) in harmony with Luke 21:24. Dan.8:11-12,24-25; 11:31-36; 9:26
For a review of these events and the associated scriptures; the previous parts of this post can be considered.

So the Great Tribulation brings trampling and desolation to the remaining ones of the woman's seed, with which Satan is at war (Rev.12:17,15; Dan.9:26; Mark 13:14). 
For a time they are conquered by 
    Satan's release (Rev.13:7) 
    the power he grants to the false prophet (Rev.9:1; 8:10-11; 16:13-16; 13:11; 1Tim.4:1) 
    and Beast which that prophet, benefits (Dan.8:24; 11:23; Rev.13:15; 19:20; Luke 22:25). 
Jesus draws the contrast between worldly rule (Matt.4:8-9), within which the title "benefactor" is given to those who rule with all the splendor of earthly display and luxury, 
..and divine kingdom, in which it belongs only to those whose work is that of humble, obscure and often, menial service to God's grace, spirit, and truth 
(Matt.20:26-28; Mark 10:42-43; Luke 17:10; 18:16).

Why does God allow His sanctuary and it's royal priesthood, to be trampled?
We get a brief answer from Jesus, at Matt.5:13.
Those being trampled, have lost the strength of their covenant of salt with God... to be kings (2Chron.13:5). As Jesus said at John 18:37, the chosen are to use their royal authority and power just as Jesus did, and take their stand for truth, to the death (Rev.6:9-11; Mark 8:35). 
If they've lost the strength of that conviction and allow themselves to be mislead and enslaved into idolatry; then they lose their connection to Christ, without whom, they can do nothing (John 15:5) to resist Satan's Great Tribulation.

So we learn at Rev.13:7-8; 2:20; 13:7-8 that Satan's release brings with it, a plague of idolatry, even among the chosen. They are consequently, not safe from the second death or the Lake of Fire, in contrast to the preceding chosen, who reigned with Christ before the thousand years ended, and before Satan's release (Rev.20:4-5).
What hope is there for those overcome by the Great Tribulation?
Rev.7:14; 19:8; 6:9-11; 12:10-11; Mark 8:35

Throughout the first three chapters of Revelation, Jesus supplicates his own slaves, to repent.
How do we know that repentance is warranted, in the time of Jesus return and the conclusion of the age (Matt.24:3)? (Rev.3:3; 2Pet.3:10; 1Thess.5:2,6)
What are we told about all ten virgins, when the Bridegroom is arriving? Matt.25:5-6 (Heb.13:13)
They all were asleep (1Thess.5:6-7; Rev.14:8) (Rev.5:9-10)
Repentance is needed, at the time of Christ's return (Luke 18:8; Eph.4:5)
(1Pet.4:17; Luke 18:8; Amos 5:18; 1Thess.5:2; Matt.24:43; 25:1,5; 2Pet.3:10-11,12-13)

Why is the Second Death described symbolically as a Lake of Fire?
A Lake is normally made of life-giving water. Truth is often symbolized by water. But this lake, contains fire.
Isa.4:4; Num.31:23; Zech.13:9; 1Cor.3:13-14; Mal.3:1-3; Rev.11:3-5; Jer.5:14; 23:29,32
If we refuse correction and repent, the final judgments of God will consume, condemn, and destroy us... if we do not prove faithful repentance (Mark 8:35; Rev.11:7; 6:11; 12:11; 9:18,20; 13:8).
If we do repent, we can be refined by the fire of God's standards found in His Word of truth (Jer.23:29; Zech.13:9; Job 23:10; Rev.3:18), repent, and be cleansed into a clean standing with God.
Rev.7,10,14; Eze.37:23; 2Cor.6:16; Rev.21:3


How is Satan, released from his chains, and then enabled to deceive God's people?
Rev.8:10-11; 9:1 describe how Satan's dark deceptions are released.

We see an identity that was "burning as a great lamp" (Matt.5:15; John 5:35; Rev.1:20).
It fell from heaven (2Pet.3:17) and left God's grace and truth (2Cor.6:1). 
They accepted a "key" of power and authority (Matt.4:8-10; 1John2:15-16; Luke 6:24; Rev.3:17-18), 
to open Satan's dark abyss of deception and confusion. They conjure up and release from the depths of Hades, Satan's power to stifle and becloud spiritual perception. (Eze.34:18-19; Rev.4:6).
God allows this force of discipline, because their love of truth is cooled (2Thess.2:9-10; Rev.2:4) 
That fallen star "Wormwood" who gains a key to the Abyss, releases an ally (Rev.9:1-3; 13:14-15; 19:20; Joel 2:2; Jer.13:16).
Those who are overcome by that military force (Rev.9:3; Eze.2:6), are overcome by the deceptions of Satan, who is now free to empower his collective Beast (locust-scorpion constituents) and it's false prophet (Wormwood)... 
     (Rev.13:4,7; 9:1-3; Matt.24:29; Joel 2:1-2; Jer.13:16-17; Isa.25:7; 59:9; 5:26-30; 
      Joel 2:1-3,10; Matt.24:6; Dan.11:36; 2Thess.2:4; Matt.24:15-16) 
...with demonic teachings (Rev.16:13-16; 1Tim.4:1).

When we are agents of deceptive doctrine, we support the father of the lie (Rev.16:13-14; 13:11; John8:44). Satan works through human agents in the physical realm (2Cor.11:13-15; Rev.13:11).
When a prophet falls from grace by their teaching for Satan and the demons, 
  promoting their demonic power to deceive, 
    and by being Satan's messenger to God's people; 
--it is equivalent to the analogy of Satan being released from restraint, advancing into the land of God, and gaining command over God's nation. The result to the remnant is a desolation, captivity, and trampling down.

Think of how God's nation was lead astray into idolatry in the past. Israel's kings became corrupt and turned to false gods. They largely refused to heed God's warning through His prophets 
(Jer.35:15; 44:5; Rev.11:3; 11:7; Jer.26:5-6; Matt.23:37-38). 
God's land became adulterous due to an alliance with God's enemy, Satan. After having lost God's protection as a consequence, they compounded their error by turning to the nations around them for support and protection, furthering their acts of licentious harlotry.

Do you see any identity today, that has taken a leadership role over the people of God, 
  become worshipful toward an image, 
    become a false prophet, 
      accepted worldly position, riches, and power
        and having turned to the nations for support rather than their God?

Faithful obedience to the warnings of the past, the teaching of Christ, and the warnings of prophecy, are all a protection from Satan's power. Only if we strictly follow the narrow path of Christ, will anointed kings be enabled to avoid the pitfalls of Satanic temptation. 
If such a royal priest and prophet becomes unfaithful, well then, through such a leading steward over God's household, Satan becomes loosed to mislead God's nation (Rev.8:10-11; 2:20; 2Thess.2:9-12). This is the very scenario depicted within Revelation, and prophesied to occur during the Great Tribulation.

Under the era of the New Covenant, Jesus installs a steward over his household (Luke 21:24; Rev.1:20; Eph.2:20-22). Jesus said that such a steward could prove either faithful or unfaithful, and he gave the traits of both sorts.
If unfaithful, that prophet would not be providing the proper spiritual information at the time it was needed. Revelation tells us clearly, that when the events described take place... God's people are brought into subjection and trampled, by an image that appears to be spirit-breathed/directed/inspired (Rev.13:15; John 20:22)(Rev.13:7-8,10). Why would they do that... if the steward over them were dispensing the right information at the right time??? 

Revelation tells us plainly, that the entity which empowers the Beast to dominate the chosen, is a false prophet. Why not accept this simple description? (Matt.24:4-5,24-25). We see the false prophet of Rev.13:11, deceiving people from all nations, to share in the work of erecting the Beast's Image, and requiring worship to it (Rev.13:14; 19:20). 
Why does God call this two-horned beast, a false prophet, if it is two secular countries? Are the four horns of the golden altar that is before God (Rev.9:13), also four countries? Are the seven horns on Jesus head, also countries? (Rev.5:6). 
There is no reason found in the Bible, to interpret the two-horned false prophet, as the United States and Britain. But there is ample reason found in the Bible, to accept God's chosen terminology of "false prophet", as the identity who is misleading God's people into idolatry (Matt.24:4-5,24,25; Rev.2:20; 18:4; Dan.11:21,31-32).


"go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth" (Rev.16:13-14; 17:1-2,15; Joel 3:9-12,13-17,20-21; Rev.6:9-10; 19:1-2; 18:8,24,20) (Deut.4:27; 28:64; Rev.13:8,7,10; Mark 13:27; Jer.9:15-16; Rev.8:11)
1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 19:20; 13:11,14-15; 9:13-15; Matt.24:5,24-25; 2Thess.2:9; Dan.8:24-25,12
"Gog and Magog" Once again we see an alliance depicted, which mobilizes, as a result of being deceived (Matt.24:4-5; 1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 17:14; 19:11,14; 2Cor.10:3-5; Rev.12:17).
SIDE POINT: [Jesus spoke of one kingdom, in many different parables (see Matt.13)(Matt.13:34-35; John 6:26-27,35). Jesus gave us Revelation (Rev.1:1). Just as with Jesus' any depictions of the one kingdom of God; we also see here in Revelation, many depictions of the same identities and events (Rev.10:11).]

"and gather them for battle
(Rev.12:7,17; 13:7; 11:7; 9:7,9; 16:14; 19:19; 17:14; 20:8 etc.)
"In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
These are not the sea (Isa.57:20), but rather... the sands of the land that are being tossed, pounded, and controlled BY the sea (Hosea 1:10; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10,7). They are also not the stars of heaven, but are still earthly. Yet both sort, are Abraham's seed (Gen.22:17; Gal.3:26-29).

Satan is seen "standing" on the sands of the sea (Rev.13:1; Dan.11:45), just after John says that he goes off to wage war with the remaining ones of the woman's seed (Rev.12:17) after his release. 
       (There are no chapters or verses in original writings)
To stand over or take your seat over an identity, is a depiction of domination 
       (Eph.6:13; Acts 4:26; 7:55; Ps.110:1; 2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:36-37,16,31). 
Rev.13:1 informs us, that Satan is out of the abyss, and has gained advantage over the "sand", the unsealed of Abraham's seed of earth (Gen.22:16-18; 17:5; Isa.48:19). As a result of that domination through the false prophet and it's Gentile Beast (Rev.13:11,15), Abraham's seed is trampled (Rev.13:7,10). Those unsealed "kings of the earth", who throw their lot in with the Image of the Beast (Rev.17:12-14; 1:5; 5:9-10), are slave-marked by the Beast's deceptive laws (Rev.13:16; Deut.11:18). This puts them into spiritual conflict with Christ and his faithful witnesses who testify to God's truths. The Beast which the ten kings support, kills the faithful (Rev.11:7; John 16:2; Mark 13:13; Rev.6:9-11; 12:10-11; Luke 12:51; Matt.10:34; Rev.2:16).
"They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people (Greek: "hagiOn" G40 "holy saints -1Pet.2:9-10; Heb.8:10; Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1; 7:3), the City He loves"
I will pause here, to clarify a comparison between this verse, and WT doctrine.

According to the WT, the events of Rev.20:9 take place after the end of a paradisaic and literal thousand years, which begins after Armageddon. But they also teach, that all the holy faithful ones, are then in heaven. Can you see that the WT's interpretation is impossible and untrue? 
The Bible tells us clearly, that Satan's minions are marching on earth
How then, do they "surround" the "camp/tent" of God's people/saints, and the holy city heavenly Jerusalem (2Chron.6:6; Isa.62:1-7; Rev.21:2-3,10; Matt.5:35; Luke 21:20)..., when "God's people", are the Israel of God... the saints (1Pet.2:9-10; Rev.5:10; 1Cor.3:16) (Gal.6:16; 3:29; Rom.2:28-29)? 
God's people have His laws symbolically written on their heart (Jer.31:33). How would we recognize who these are? Deut.11:18 tells us, they these would have a symbolic mark on their forehead. 
Rev.14:1 tells us who that is.
We may have our own idea as to who the "144000" are... but the point is; JWs believe that "God's people" of Rev.20:9, are JWs. Yet JWs also do NOT believe, that all the rank and file JWs, are the anointed/the holy beloved city/the saints (Rev.21:9-10). That being the case, according to their own doctrine... JWs are not God's people, and are not the ones being surrounded by Gog and Magog. The remaining ones of God's anointed priesthood, are.

The Bible speaks in may places, about this same situation of being surrounded 
(Luke 21:20,24; Rev.13:10; Luke 19:43).
The WT does not have the correct timetable for these prophetic events. 
The holy city/beloved city/holy ones/temple/holy place/saints, are surrounded and trampled, during the Great Tribulation. 
On the one hand, the WT teaches that Satan is let out a thousand years after Armageddon. On the other hand, Satan gathers Gog and Magog, leading into Armageddon. They want it both ways, but both scenarios of Rev.20:7-8, cannot be true.

"But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
Eph.2:6; Jer.2:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5

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