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Tuesday, August 4, 2026

The Lie

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The target audiences of this post are Jehovah's Witnesses and former Jehovah's Witnesses
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A precious and valuable gem is a beautiful sight.
Gems are rated, according to the score of their various attributes... color, clarity, cut, and carat.
With an untrained eye, we too are naturally drawn to rate a gem's attributes. We may be dazzled as we behold the sparkle and size. If shown two gems side by side which appear to be identical, we may be unable to identify the genuine from the counterfeit. To our eye, they both rate highly.


When we believe a lie, we cannot see the difference between the lie and the truth.
We  then regard something as real and genuine, when it is not. 
We do not see it, for what it really is.
If we believe something is authentic when it is actually a counterfeit,
  then we ascribe all the traits of the authentic and genuine, to the counterfeit. 

Everything we believe regarding the counterfeit's attributes and value, is false. It is impossible to recognize that all the traits are false, because we presume upon the appearance of authenticity. We may come to value a counterfeit so much, that we may surrender all we have in order to possess it, giving away precious years of our life, opportunities for a life well spent, family relationships, genuine approval from God, and even physical possessions that could have benefited ourselves and our children. Misplaced faith can be very costly. How can we avoid this pitfall?

The words of Jesus Christ, teach us to have a trained eye of spiritual perception...
 not for the appraisal of a gem, but ever more importantly, for the appraisal of those who claim to be sources of holy spirit and truth 
(Matt.7:15,20; Luke 21:8;  2Thess.2:1,2,3 etc.). 
God's holy spirit and His truth through Jesus Christ are the sources of eternal life 
(John 6:63,51,55,58; 12:49,50). 
God's spirit and truth are given to the anointed priesthood, and through them spirit and truth are offered to others ( 1John 2:20,27; Mal.2:7; Rom.15:16; Rev.5:9-10). 
There are many counterfeit messengers of God and many false prophets 
( 1John 4:1; Matt.24:11,4,5,24,25). 
By our scrutinizing the sources of theological learning (upon which we will base our faith), is ever more vital that we find the genuine. Our everlasting life far exceeds the value of a gem (Mark 8:37). 
Many are bedazzled by doctrine that appears to possess the genuine hallmarks of authentic, divine source and endorsement. In their ignorance of Christ, millions surrender the care of their eternal souls into the hands of blind guides, spiritual wolves, and liars.

This is a lengthy post. Please take your time with it and study it in sections. 
Reading and reflecting upon the scriptures as you come to them, is vital. 


Satan is the father of the lie (John 8:44). He is the Master at creating counterfeit. 
In the time of the end, he is released from the abyss and goes off to mislead with powerful signs and portents. An abundance of lying signs comprise his final, lying machination against God's chosen remnant... the final inductees of Christ's Bride, Christ's Body members, and the last living stones to complete God's spiritual Temple.
(Rev.20:7-8; 16:13-14,16; 11:7; 13:4,7; 9:9,7; 19:19; 12:17; 17:14)
( 2Cor.10:3,4,5; Eph.6:12)
2Thess.2:1,2,3,4; Dan.8:24-25,11-12;  2Thess.2:9,10,11,12; Dan.8:11,13; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:20; Dan.8:13;  2Thess.2:9,10,11,12; Rev.16:13; Matt.24:4-5,24-25; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24,20; Rev.20:9; Jer.5:14 NIV ; Rev.11:5). 

The great tribulation that comes against God's people is not a physical assault against "Jehovah's Witnesses" by the governmental powers. As shown in the scriptures above, it is against the anointed, who are God's people (1Pet.2:9,10). (who-become-gods-people?) The great test, is spiritual.

The governments of the world are under the dominion of Satan. Satan is their king. God granted Satan dominion over creation, when Adam handed God's covenant and gift of creation, over to Satan, sin, and death 
(Gen.1:26; Hosea 6:7; Rom.5:19,12; John 8:44;  1John 3:8) (1John 5:19; Luke 4:5-6; John 19:10-11)
Conversely, 
the "kings of the earth" over which Jesus is king, are not of the world, but are the anointed 
(Rev.5:9-10; 1:5-6; Rev.19:16; John 18:36; 17:16).
The "kings of the earth" who are gathered into battle (Rev.16:14 NKJV ; Rev.19:19), are the unfaithful anointed against the faithful anointed.
( 1Cor.11:18,19;  2Cor.10:3,4,5; 6:7,8; Eph.6:10,11,12,13; Rev.16:13,14,15,16; 17:14; Ps.2:1-2,3-4,5-6,10,11,12) 
(Matt.25:8; Matt.13:29-30,37-38) (Amos 5:18; Eph.5:11; Isa.60:2-3; Rev.2:28;  1Pet.2:9; Col.1:13). 

    The battle between light and darkness, is not between Jehovah's Witnesses and secular authorities. That lying counterfeit of prophetic fulfillment, blinds the followers of the Watchtower (including the anointed captive within it), to current spiritual realities. 
Armageddon is right in front of you, readers.

As "Jehovah's Witnesses" we were taught that Satan's release happens many centuries after the great tribulation and Armageddon are past. That is wrong. Satan's release from the abyss is the cause of the great tribulation and Armageddon. 
Making that necessary mental adjustment in perception and faith, is a challenge. But with the guidance of scripture; it is easy to acquire a new wine skin to hold new wine.


The basics explained briefly**:
Christ began ruling his symbolic thousand years at God's right hand, in the first century 
(Luke 22:69; Ps.110:1;  1Cor.15:25). 
That symbolic "Thousand Year Kingdom" ends when Wormwood releases Satan and his forces (Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,2,3,11) from the abyss. 
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The result of Satan's release from the abyss, is Satan's "short period of time" of freedom (Rev.12:12; Mark 13:20; Matt.24:22). That "short period of time" is the same as the "short time" of Rev.20:3 C which reads; "But after these things he must be released for a short time."

    He uses that short time to wage war against Christ and the remaining ones of the "woman's seed" (Rev.12:17), [the "where the holy ones are encamped" (Rev.20:9)(Heb.13:13] during the great tribulation and the Battle of Armageddon. 
With the completion of Christ's Bride and the placement of the last capstone of God's temple, Satan knows his dominion ends. (Zech.4:7,8,9,14; Rev.11:4,3) (LINK)

A remnant emerges from the Great Test and its discipline (LINK). Through their repentance and loyal stand for Christ, they are sentenced to death by the Sea beast of Rev.13:1,15 (John 16:2; Mark 8:35; Rev.6:11) (LINK). They take a stand against Satan's demonic deceptions 
( 1Tim.4:1;  2Thess.2:9,10,11,12; Rev.17:14; 12:17,7) and expose the false doctrine which previously held them captive (Dan.11:33; Luke 21:24; Col.2:8; Eph.5:11; 6:12;  2Cor.10:3,4,5). 
The Battle of Armageddon ensues, polarizing and sealing all the remaining seed, finishing the harvest of wheat/sons of the kingdom (Rev.14:14,15,16; Matt.3:12)<(See footnote regarding Rev.14). All are judged by their teaching, whether sourced in holy spirit, or demonic spirit 
(Matt.12:37; Rev.16:13,14,15,16;  1Tim.4:1) 
(Matt.10:20; Jer.23:39; Rev.11:5,12; 20:7,8,9; Eph.2:6; Rev.3:21).
**For more information:
                    -- (who-is-destroyer/king-of-abyss?) -- (who-has-key-to-abyss?)

Satan does not want his release, or his scheme against God's anointed (great spiritual test/tribulation), to be detected. 
Satan knows that we will not see the threat he poses, if we believe that Satan's final test is centuries away, or if he can delude us into a false sense of peace and security with God, or if we believe that the tribulation is physical. 
If we accept the false teaching that we are at spiritual peace and security and that we basque in divine light and approval (Isa.5:20; Rev.3:17,18) while Satan swallows us into a dark spiritual sleep; we have failed to keep awake and on guard, according to the warnings of Christ. 


If we have failed to discern Christ's lessons regarding Satan's End-time scheme, our untrained spiritual eye will fail to recognize the threat. We will put faith in his counterfeit. We will be gathered into Satan's snare of deception and destruction, while believing it is our authentic home of spiritual health, guiding us into God's approval and eternal life.  
...a great sifting test/tribulation, indeed!


Satan is the father of lying. He has the whole world and all it contains, at his disposal 
(Luke 4:5,6;  1John 2:15,16,17). 
He has the ability to create very convincing counterfeits 
( 2Thess.2:9,10; Luke 21:8,36; Matt.24:21,22,23,24,25; Rev.13:11,7). 

Since the dawn of man, Satan has successfully misguided the human race. All who fell into the snares of Satan's strategies, believed in what they saw. But they only saw the surface. Only Jesus Christ can train and empower us to see the deeper truth. Only by applying Christ's warnings, can we be snatched out of the Devil's hands and guided to living water.


Satan knows what unlearned people are naturally looking for when they seek religious authenticity. 
The unlearned are influenced by logical assertions, a tokenism and perfunctory use of scripture, the physical appearance of followers and their glow of conviction and respectability, the physical appearance of their places of meeting, the material and financial assets of the organization, the number of followers, their reach in proselytizing, false affirmation of divine approval through material gain, and every other power, prominence, and authority that is granted by this world's true ruler 
( 1John 5:19; Luke 4:5,6;  2Cor.11:3,4,14,15,13; Mark 10:42,43,44). 

People who fall prey to those material signs fail to recognize that the appraisal and value of these aforementioned assets, have nothing to do with holy spirit or divine truth (1Cor.1:27,28,29; Matt.22:6; Heb.13:13; Mark 13:13). Those stumbled by the signs which Satan controls, are caught and taken captive to an Idol... by Satan's counterfeit Zion
(Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Dan.11:33). (LINK) (LINK-2)

All those lying signs and portents are meant to veil the truth about Satan's scheme, strategy, and tactics of spiritual war, and the stealth invasion he mounts against the anointed after his being released from the abyss. Satan's weaponry consists of demonic and deceptive teachings of demons, designed to mislead God's chosen anointed remnant during the last days/great tribulation (Rev.16:13,14,15,16;  1Tim.4:1).
(Matt.24:24,25; Rev.12:17; 20:9; Luke 21:20; Dan.11:16,21,22,23,28; Rev.12:15; Dan.11:30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37; 9:26,27; Matt.24:4,5,24,25,15,16; Mark 13:14;  2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16; Dan.8:13). 

Those who deliver that poisonous spiritual water, are the false prophet and its Gentile beast. That sea beast consists of individual Gentiles (locust-scorpions) who trample those as yet unsealed... the last  remnant of God's Temple of living stones who are subjected to the agents of the Great Tribulation
 ( 1Pet.2:5;  1Cor.3:16;  2Thess.2:2,3,4;  1Cor.3:17; Matt.24:15) 
(Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,2,3; 16:13; 13:11,14,15; 19:20)
(LINK:Trample-How?)

For those of you who have recently either abandoned, or been exiled from the apostate city...
     (Matt.22:8-9; Luke 21:20,21,22; Jer.51:6; Luke 17:29-30,31-32,33-34,35-36,37; Rev.18:4)
...all of this information is new to you. There is much to sample at the marriage feast.
Even so, you are much better off, than those who do not obey the direction of Christ (Matt.24:15-16).
(LINK:Flee!)
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Due to the powerful demonic deception we have all as Jehovah's Witnesses been subjected to; there is so much which has to be unlearned. Jesus said that we need a new wine skin to hold new wine (Luke 5:37,38,39). We need a new mind, to hold a new faith... a faith of genuine truth from the vine of Christ (John 15:5,16)... as we transform our perception according to scripture, rather than the previous cup of the harlot's libations which made us reel, stumble, and sleep.

Since genuine truth is in conflict with falsely-called "truth" which is actually deception; 
embarking upon the path of light will cause conflict in understanding among former "Jehovah's Witnesses". (LINK:Who-really-are-YHVHs-witnesses?)
--Keep on asking, seeking, and knocking. It will, open for you. 
Prioritize reading the scriptures. They pop up if on a Computer. If phone readers click on WEB VERSION at the bottom of the page, the cited scriptures will then be linked and may possibly pop up.

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A sampling of the last harlot's power to deceive, (derived from Satan's abyss of darkness) is seen below. It is seen in the message from one  whose forehead is still marked by the Beast and the demonic teachings coming forth from that beast's mouth (Rev.16:13).
I will post that message below. 
The message was sent TO one who woke up, and thereafter gave a testimony of divine truth. 
When there is a retaliation by deception against a testimony of truth, that is the spiritual battle between light and darkness. 
This retaliation is a perfect sampling of Armageddon. That is a war between Satan and Christ, each of their messages, and fought through each of their messenger armies... one army is  released from the deep, dark abyss (Rev.9:2,3)... the other is discharged from the heavenly city of light.
(LINK:SearchResults:What-is-Armageddon? <this page contains many posts.)

The message below from a follower of the beast, will be in sections. Those sections will be in bold. 
My responses to each section will follow.

The Message:

Why we know Jehovah's Witnesses is the true religion! 
Ephesians 4:4,5,6 there can only be one true religion. 
  
MY REPLY:
And what is that one, true religion? 
Jesus said that it was the one which worshiped in spirit and truth. He said that this worship started in his day, in the first century (John 4:23,24). The source of spirit in the earth, is found in the anointed bride members who are joined to Christ 
( 1Cor.6:17; 1:2;  2Cor.1:22; 5:17; Gal.6:15,16; Eze.36:27; Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1; 22:17). 
The source of truth, is the Word of God and the anointing received by those same priests and members of Christ's bride (John 17:3,17;  1John 2:20,27; Rom.15:16; Mal.2:7; Rev.5:9,10). 
  I wonder if the writer of this message got the sense of his cited verse... Eph.4:4. 
It reads;
"4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling" 
(John 14:17,26; Col.1:5;  1Pet.1:12) (1Cor.12:27,28;  2Cor.1:22; Gal.4:6)
Yes, it's true...
    the one Lord (Acts 2:36; Eph.1:22,23; 5:23; Col.1:17,18), 
    the one faith (Gal.1:6-7,8-9,10-11,12,17-18,19-20; Col.1:3-4,5-6,23; 
                           Gal.2:16; Phil.1:27;  1Thess.3:2; Rom.10:16,17,18)
    and the one baptism (Matt.28:18,19,20)
...IS all sourced in the "one Body and one Spirit." 
Those who are joined as one body with Christ as Head, are his bride members 
( 1Cor.12:12,13,18,4,27,28; 6:17; John 17:21-22,23-24; 14:3-4; 15:4). 

How does this one Lord, faith, and baptism, compare to today's Watchtower?
Who is Lord of "Jehovah's witnesses"?
Definition of Lord: 
"someone or something having power, authority, or influence; a master or ruler." -Oxford Dictionary

    Is Jesus Christ truly the one who effectively exercises power and authority over the Congregations of "Jehovah's Witnesses"? 
Who do "Jehovah's witnesses" obey? 
They assume that Christ is teaching, leading, and guiding them. Yet is it really Jesus that "Jehovah's witnesses" are listening to and obeying? 

The Watchtower teaches that their leaders are not inspired, and that they may err in doctrinal matters. All are still required to "listen and obey". 
Jesus, is inspired. He never errs in doctrinal matters. His words last forever (Matt.24:35) as do the teachings of his genuine faithful slaves (John 15:15,16; Matt.7:20; Luke 6:43,44,45). 

Jesus never taught us to obey men (Gal.1:10;  1Cor.7:23) 
(John 12:42; Matt.10:32,33;  1John 4:1;  1Tim.4:1; Matt.24:4-5,24-25;  2Cor.11:2-3,20). 
He taught us to accept the one he sends 
(John 13:20; 15:26-27; 16:7-8,13-14). 

Jesus does not send uninspired men of error, whether they be governors or their henchmen, the elder army. Uninspired doctrinal error does not last. Such doctrine is discarded over time and needs to be changed. That is the very definition of "rotten fruit" 
(Matt.7:15,16,17,18,19,20; Luke 6:43,44,45).

The Devil is the one who discharges such false prophets and wicked stewards, to rob God's genuine people of their inheritance 
(Matt.11:12;  2Cor.11:20,12-13,14-15; John 10:1; Joel 2:9,2,3,17,20,5; Rev.9:3; Eze.2:6) 
(Rev.16:13-14;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.13:11,15).
For more information on this:
If you want more scriptures about the one true religion:
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The one true religion must fulfill ALL prophecy about it . 
Below are just a few. 
First, Matthew 6:9 - You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified - only religion that does this. 

My Reply:
Firstly; How can anyone dare to say that God's name needs to be sanctified?
How can the holiest name, need cleansing?
The original words of Jesus, do not mean what this Jehovah's Witness assumes and has been taught, at all! 
To venerate the name of God, is to consecrate, respect, and obey the concept of God within the self... to praise God's own expressed meaning of His name, as holy. 
Does this really mean that humans can fabricate a name for God, to praise, honor, and worship that word? The name Jehovah, is, a man-made name. Jehovah is not a translation of ×™×”וה

If we give our own label to God; How is that different from making an idol and then believing that it represents God? We cannot truly say that anything humans make, whether material or verbal, rightly represents God (Isa.40:18,25; Ex.3:13,14,15; 20:4,5; Ps.90:1).

Watchtower doctrine fails to uphold Ex.20:4 when it interprets the four living creatures (an ox, man, lion, and eagle Rev.4:7) as representing the attributes of God. 
These four living creatures subject themselves to the Lamb and to God (Rev.5:8; 7:11; 19:4). By claiming that those four identities embody God, the Watchtower is  thereby committing the blasphemy of Rom.1:25.

Strange that the Watchtower rejects the idea that it is the name of God which powerfully reflects God's attributes. The scriptures are full of examples that define the purpose of one's name. 
The name "Jehovah" is actually used, honored, and preached by a multitude of religions besides Jehovah's Witnesses. But there is only one people to truly understand and have faith in the meaning of God's genuine and accurate name ×™×”וה.
They have it written on them, as servants, believers, and upholders of its meaning 
(Heb.13:15; Rev.3:12; 14:1).

Names in the Bible have meaning. 
God's name as YHVH, describes His unique character. Ask yourself... Can the character of the universal sovereign and creator, be summed up by human lips? 
To state plainly, "Jehovah" is not God's name. 
Jesus never used that name. He taught us to call our God, heavenly "Father". 
But there is more... 
The name Jehovah is not God's own definition of His name. 
He defined the meaning of His name as "He causes to become", or, "I am that I am". 
Those two phrases do not dishonor God, because He is the creator, and He is without equal. 
There is nothing we can compare Him to, Not even a word/name, and so, He simply is what He is. 
We can safely refer to him as our Father, because He is the source of life.

On the other hand, the human designed name of "Jehovah", does have a more limited meaning in Hebrew. Je-hovah means iniquity, disaster, mischief, ruin. That is not a proper description of our God of love, but is an apt name for His enemy and adversary, Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer, king of the bottomless pit of darkness and Death (Rev.9:11 NIV ; Isa.33:1 NIV ).


I would say that of all religions; "Jehovah's Witnesses" are the greatest ones in need, to sanctify their own idea of God's name. 
God's name is not a pronounceable word at all. It is our own perception of His identity within our own heart, as Jesus has made Him known to us (John 14:6,7; 17:26). 
God's representative name is our heart's understanding of Him (Rev.4:11;  2Thess.3:5;  1Pet.3:15) as the creator of everything, without equal... what He means to us, ...our accurate education through Christ and the resulting concept of Him in our mind and heart. 

Names represent identities and traits. God's face in our heart is His name. In our heart, God should be without equal, the God of eternity, the God that cannot be compared to anything humans can conceive of or speak, the God that is the source of all existence. 
( 1Cor.2:16; Isa.40:18,25,28; 43:10)
The heart is where we venerate His name, and give Him the devotion He deserves. That is where we honor his name and work to help others to perceive the Father, through the face of Christ.
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Isa.43:12 goes on to reveal that God's "chosen" witnesses understand that He is the only Savior. His salvation through Christ and the anointed has been in force since the first century, without the Watchtower. Can we really fulfill God's requirement at Isa.43:12 if we subscribe to the teaching which claims that "Bible students must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah's organization is essential to their salvation." (km 11/90 pg.1)? In that same month, the Watchtower of 11/90 p.26 reads; "We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry- be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol, or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization."

As regards the avoidance of honoring symbols (such as the cross)...
9/74 km -- We have no organizational symbol to identify ourselves, but show that we are Jehovah's Christian witnesses by living in harmony with God's will."
Luke 12:1; Matt.5:20
The Image and Idol of the organization has proven that Jehovah's Witnesses themselves have raised up their own god of salvation, proving that in reality, they betray the true meaning of the Name of God, who is and has always been, the only Savior (Isa.43:10,11,12).

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Second, Isaiah 43:10 "You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah - we carry his name the only religion that does.

My Reply:
Unfortunately, the writer forms a conclusion on one verse, using again one of the names of God's adversary. If we go ahead and read more of his verse, as well as other verses in the same chapter, a clearer image of God's witnesses emerges.
The full verses 10-11 read;
"10 “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord,
“And My servant whom I have chosen,
That you may know and believe Me,
And understand that I am He.
Before Me there was no God formed,
Nor shall there be after Me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord,
And besides Me there is no savior."

Do "Jehovah's Witnesses" choose to become members of the Watchtower?
Or, did God or Jesus Christ come and choose... hand pick, each of "Jehovah's Witnesses"? The teaching that as an organization, the anointed of 1919 were chosen to represent Christ, has expired. Jesus did not return to reward and appoint his slaves at that time. 
At Christ's return, he gives to all his anointed slaves what is due for their work, whether faithful or unfaithful. That judgment of all the remnant, did not occur in 1919. The anointed present today, were not yet even born.
Those who are Called, Chosen, and Faithful (Isa.43:11; Rev.17:14; Eph.1:4-5,6-7,8-9,10-11;  1Pet.2:4-5,9) are Christ's faithful anointed priesthood (John 15:16). 
So, the servants which God Himself chooses, are not "Jehovah's Witnesses". 

I italicized Isa.43:11 above, because YHVH's genuine witnesses, know that there is no salvation in an organization that is presided over in each congregation, by Gentile elders who are not spiritual Jews belonging to the Israel of God (Rom.2:28-29; Col.2:11). 
"Jehovah's Witnesses" are compelled to obey the elders, even when the decrees the elders promote, violate the teachings of Christ. 
When the elders expel a faithful brother of Christ...
 (John 16:2; Rom.6:8; 8:36;  2Cor.4:11; Gal.2:20; Rev.11:7,8; 6:9,10,11; Rom.6:5; Mark 8:35; 13:13; Heb.13:13; Matt.25:6), 
..."Jehovah's Witnesses" shun them (Matt.25:31,32,37-38,39-40,41-42,43-44,45-46; Rev.11:9; Luke 17:37).  (See: FLEE-Where?.html)

The elders have usurped Christ as Head of his bride members. They dare to pass judgment upon them, and will pay the price for trampling them down beneath their feet (1Cor.3:16,17; Eph.2:20,21,22; Rom.8:33; 14:4;  2Pet.2:10; Jude 1:8; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10; Col.2:8).
But now we have Isa.43:7,21. 
Who are the people God has formed as a potter works with clay, into a people who are consecrated and designated to declare God's praises? (Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet.2:9,10; Eph.2:6,10,19-20,21-22). 
The elders have replaced God's priests, robbing them of their inheritance from God 
(Eze.44:6,7,8,9; Mark 13:14; Matt.24:15;  2Thess.2:4; Luke 21:20; Matt.5:13;  2Chron.13:5; Mal.3:1,2,3,17,18)
This abomination has been facilitated by the false prophet who has given the beast organization an image of being directed by God's spirit (Rev.13:11-12,13-14,15). 

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I will continue to debunk the false assertions of this Jehovah's Witness by means of scripture, as time allows. He is spiritually drunk on the harlot's wine (Deut.32:32-33; Rev.14:19). For those of you who would like to go ahead of my writing here, if you use the search box for the blind assertions made below,
 -- (such as "no part of the world" / "the good news, what is it and who is it for?" / etc.) you will find in the search results, posts that address the errors with ample supporting scriptures.
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 The Jehovah's Witness continues:
John 18:36 "My Kingdom is no part of this world"- we the only religion that Stays neutral John 15:20 'persecuted me, they will persecute you also'- We are the only religion hated by all other religions and people in general. Luke 21:17"you will be hated by all people because of my name" - we are hated Isaiah 60:22"The little one will become a thousand And the small one a mighty nation. I myself, Jehovah, will speed it up in its own" - we are the only fulfilling this. Matthew 7:13,14 "Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it." - we are a mighty nation but few enough to be on the narrow road. Luke 9:2"And he sent them out to preach the Kingdom of God" - we are the only preaching about the kingdom 1 Thessalonians 1:5"because the good news we preach"- we are the only one's who understand the good news in full Matthew 24:14"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached 'in all the inhabited earth for a witness to*all the nations*, and then the end will come" - we are the only one's preaching in all countries + all languages Matthew 6:10"Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth" - we are the only one's who understand the paradise Luke 23:43 "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise. John 13:35"By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” - no military service - only religion that does the preaching work out of love for neighbours 1 Timothy 2:4"and come to an accurate knowledge of truth - no other religion as accurately understood or foretold bible prophecy. 1 Timothy 2:5"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, " no other religion understands this separation.  1Corinthians 15:22-28  - no other religion understands or teaches this scripture Daniel 11:45"And he will plant his royal tents between the grand sea and the holy mountain of Decoration" - king of the north- persecution in Russia - only religion to have fulfilled or understand this scripture Matthew 10:8 " You received free, give free "- we give freely - no charges - only religion that all its publications are free and the Elders don't get a salary

My Notes / footnotes
FOOTNOTE
Rev.14:
  The "harvest of the earth" (Rev.14:15,16), 
             is the "dried out" harvest of "wheat" (check Greek below)
             and that harvest of the earth is the sons of the kingdom (Matt.13:37,38,12; 3:12)
(Click on pictures for clearer image)


When the interpretation of Rev.14:15 (according to the Greek - "Ripe" is "dried out") is compared to
Watchtower's interpretation and depiction in the Revelation Climax book (page 213); WT error can be discerned, due to their translating the "ripe" of Rev.14:15 as juicy grapes... rather than dried out ripe wheat, which wheat is the harvest of faithful anointed.
They wish to give the impression, that the harvest of the faithful earth by Christ, is their own "juicy" vine of primarily, Jehovah's Witness "other sheep" (who they teach are not anointed). 
When they teach their interpretation of Rev.14:18, they depict that vine as withered, and as representing the world outside of Jehovah's Witnesses. Yet the Greek word for "ripe" at Rev.14:18,19,20, IS juicy and plump (Joel 3:13). WT changes what the scriptures tell us, in order to favor their own harvest and supportive followers. 



The harvest of the vine of the earth, is of plump, rotten fruit of the unfaithful prophets (Matt.7:15,16,17,18,19; Rev.20:10; Matt.25:41; Rev.14:18). Their branches were meant to stay attached to Christ (John 15:5,6; Col.2:19), but they left him for a new master 
(Jer.2:21; Deut.32:32,33;  2Cor.11:2,3; Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,11 <(both names mean "Destroyer"); Isa.33:1).
According to the Greek... the fruit of the plump vine is condemned to the wine-press of God's anger (Rev.14:19; Jer.2:21; 25:30) because the branches have failed to remain in union with Christ 
(John 15:4,5,6; Col.2:19; Jer.2:21; Deut.32:32,33,15,16,22; Rev.14:19; Joel 3:13).


Wednesday, November 24, 2021

Victory of Christ

QUESTION:
Good morning Pearl…I am reading all you post…but the 1000 year reign of Christ doesn’t fail does it?  1Cor.15:24 indicates that he is successful.  I am confused.  Thank you for any clarification you can give on this verse."

MY REPLY:
1Cor.15:24 tells us that at the END, Jesus will have success. 
It also tells us that at the END, all enemies will have been conquered. It also tells us that at that point (all enemies conquered and Jesus is successful) that Jesus gives over that accomplishment to the Father.

All that the verse teaches, is telling us about the final result in the end.
This verse does NOT tell us, everything that lead up to the end.
Jesus being successful, does not necessitate that he did not have any problems leading up to that success... 
nor does it tell us that all Christ's success occurs during the "thousand years".

Are you thinking that the full success of Jesus (as expressed at 1Cor. 15:24), is established previous to the end of his 1,000 year reign?
If so, it is clear that you could benefit from learning the actual timeline of events.
Although I hope to make a video in an attempt to make that timeline crystal clear, for now,
Please read Rev.20:7-8....
"7 Now when the thousand years have ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea."

Can you see there that Jesus kingdom of 1,000 years is said to be finished, 
and yet,
do you also see that ALL his enemies are not yet subdued beneath his feet?
Therefore, the full success of Jesus, in subduing all his enemies,
is not completed during his 1000 year reign.
You may notice in the verses that follow (1Cor. 15:25-26), "all enemies" but one are mentioned in verse 25. 
Verse 26 singles out the last enemy, Death. That last enemy is mentioned separately, because unlike the previous enemies; 
Death must be conquered after the 1000 year reign.

The Watchtower left us with a perverse timeline that is not scriptural.
Although it's doctrine agrees with the last enemy being conquered after the 1000 years; it teaches that the 1000 years take place, after Armageddon. That is not true, as is proven by scripture in many posts in this blog. The very battle referred to at Rev.20:7-8 cited above, IS Armageddon. As you can see from verse 7, it also occurs after the 1000 year kingdom of Christ.
The simplified, proper sequence of events, is:
*Christ enthroned in the first century, for a symbolic 1000 years
*Satan released/1000 years ends
*Great Tribulation/Death reigns over the remnant
*Armageddon/Death conquered by Christ and the remnant
*God's eternal Kingdom by Christ and his victorious heirs of 144000 and Great Crowd

First, Jesus is enthroned/becomes king, in the 1st century 
(Luke 22:69; Acts 2:33; Ps.110:1-2; *1Cor. 15:25* Rev.3:21).
During that symbolic 1,000 year kingdom, Jesus is progressively gathering into his storehouse during their lifetime... 
   Matt.28:20; Matt.24:34> Ps.112:2; Ps.14:5 NKJV
...all the anointed who prove faithful... his symbolic 144000 
(Luke 22:31; Matt.13:38; 3:12; Rev.14:14-16). 
The ruling scepter of Jesus is extended through the faithful conquerors of the world, Mount Zion 
(Rev.14:1; Psalm 110:2; Heb.12:22-23; Ps.110:1-2;  1Cor. 15:25). 
They rule with him during that thousand year kingdom, because with his help and spirit, they are conquering the enemies of Christ 
(Rev.20:6;  2Tim. 2:3;  2Cor. 10:3-5; Rev.17:14; Eph.6:11-12;  1John 5:4). 

Next,
As Rev.20:7-8 told us, the 1,000 year kingdom of Jesus ends when Satan is released from the abyss.
Satan's release causes 
*powerful, lying signs and portents/wonders (2Thess. 2:9-10,11-12;  1Tim. 4:1), 
*captivity to deception   and war... 
...the great tribulation leading into Armageddon.

That deception includes a misleading, trampling, mental captivity, torment, sifting, and seduction into idolatry of the anointed remnant who come through the time of the end...
(Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10,7;  1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-14; Matt.24:24-25,4-5)
...which captivity and trampling is imposed by the agents/army, of the dark powers of the abyss*, through whom the Great Tribulation is unleashed**.
This is when the "abomination of desolation"/"disgusting thing, standing in the holy place"/"standing where it does not belong"/"Jerusalem surrounded"....
         Luke 21:20; Rev.20:9,7-9; Rev.11:5,3-5; Jer.5:14 NIV 
.... arises. 

That abomination/idol, is the Anti-Christ/"man of lawlessness"... who has taken his throne over God's anointed Temple priesthood... trampling them into submission to his own idolatrous Image (Rev.13:15,7-8; 2:20).
(Matt.24:15-16; Luke 21:20-22; Rev.20:9; Mark 13:14;  2Thess. 2:3-4; Dan.7:21,25; Dan.8:11,12,13,14,17,24,25; Dan.11:31,32,33,36,37;  2Thess. 2:4).
When you read that last set of scriptures, ask yourself...
  Is Jesus still ruling over his anointed while they are being trampled and subject to Gentiles? 
  Is Jesus' scepter still being extended through the living members of Zion?
  Or, has his 1,000 year authority and power over his living anointed, come to an halt?
 
The 1000 years were successful, for their purpose... to gather in the 144000.
But after the 1000 years, there is more to do before all enemies are subdued. 
As 1Cor. 15:26 states, the last enemy Death yet needs to be conquered, and will be, during Armageddon. 
Those anointed who battle with Jesus in the time of the end, are not the original 144000 of the first resurrection. They are the Great Crowd who come through the Great Tribulation.
They are the symbolic "third" who repent of their idolatry.
No... those who battle with Christ at Armageddon against the last enemy Death, 
are those faithful anointed, alive at that time. They are the "great crowd" 
(Rev.7:13-14; 19:1; Eze.14:22-23).

Heb.4:12; Jer.23:29; Rev.19:11; 17:14;  2Cor. 10:3-5

Out of regard for how Watchtower indoctrination had damaged our belief in truth, it is imperative that we do as Jesus suggested...
get a new wine-skin to hold new wine (Mark 2:22). 
We should not take any teachings with us when we exit (Luke 17:30-32; 21:21-22; Jer.51:6 NIV   Rev.18:4) but rather, 
with a mind that is free of preconception, sample the provisions of the marriage feast (Matt.22:8-10; 24:16; Eze.36:8) Luke 17:37 NKJV . 
We can't hold on to old fallacies if we hope to have mental room for the truth. We must learn afresh, from the scriptures.
I do hope you keep reading... especially the posts that reveal the genuine timeline, according to scripture.
This has been an extremely brief summary of a corrected chronology. Many questions arise from this accurate explanation of this prophetic scenario. Many posts at the blog address the details. I hope the scriptures cited here are enough to set you on a new path of thinking, liberating you from the false chronology we were previously taught.

Monday, August 29, 2016

144000 and Great Crowd, Compared

This post is an addition made to ("Who are the 144000?").

The Great Crowd can be included in God's priestly group who stand for truth (symbolic meaning of 144000) when that number is regarded as not so much literal and numerical, but as those who testify to truth. There can be a group of Testifiers to Truth ("144000"), later joined by more who Testify to Truth. Although the group increases, the label of that number's meaning, remains the same.

Yet a distinction is made in Rev.7, between the 144000, and those who appear "afterward" (Rev.7:9).
We are told in Rev. ch.20, that the 144000 reign with Christ during the Thousand years (Rev.20:4-6). It is after the "Thousand Years", that Satan is released, and the Great Tribulation ensues (Rev.20:2-3,7) (Satan's "short time" of release Rev.20:3; 12:12,17).

During the "Thousand Years", Satan is restrained. Those who rule with Christ during that time, are not overcome by Satan's Beasts and their slave mark (Rev.20:4). After Satan's release, he empowers the false prophet and it's Beast, with powerful deception (Rev.16:13-16; 13:4,11; 20:7-8; 17:14; 20:9; 11:3,5; Jer.5:14; 23:29; Matt.10:20) (2Thess.2:9,11,8; Rev.2:16).
Initially, the Great Crowd are overcome (Rev.13:7; Dan.11:31-33; Rev.13:10 <Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev.11:2; Matt.5:13) (LINK). Of these, a remnant of those who face the Great Tribulation, will be saved (Matt.24:24-25,21-22; Dan.12:1; Jer.23:3; Mark 13:26-27). These survivors, are the Great Crowd.


Therefore, the experience of the Great Crowd, differs from the previous faithful priests.
The previous 144000 had never accepted the slave mark of the Beasts (Rev.20:4) who are unleashed during the Great Tribulation (Rev.13:1,11). The remnant (remaining ones of the seed -Rev.12:17,15) are overcome (Rev.13:7), and must be rescued (Jer.31:11; Isa.48:20; 51:11). These are required to repent of their soiled identity, and be given white robes (Zech.3:3-4,8; Rev.3:18; Isa.1:18; Eze.18:27; Rev.19:8; 7:9,14). Not all, repent (Rev.2:21-22; 9:20-21; 16:9-11) (1Kings 8:46-50; Mal.3:6).

The previous group of 144000 were in the Lamb's book of life during Christ's "Thousand Year" reign ("first resurrection"). The "second death"--
    (being overcome by death again, after having received redemption from Adamic sin and "first" death
    -Rom.5:12; John 6:63; 5:24;  1Cor.15:45;  1Pet.1:23)
--"has no hold" on those previous "144000" (Rev.20:6; Luke 10:19).
Yet for a time, the "sting" of the agents of death (1Cor.15:55,26;  Rev.20:5,14), gains a hold on the remnant (Rev.9:10) during Satan's release and Great Tribulation. (LINK)

When the Chosen who are living after the Thousand Years, are overcome by the released Satan and the resources of his abyss; they are overcome once again by death. having lost their slave mark of God (Deut.11:18), (being slave-marked by the laws of the Beast -Rev.13:16)
(Rev.13:7; 9:4-6,10; 7:3) (LINK) (666)
Yet there will be those who repent, are saved, and are added to those who receive life (Rev.3:3,19; 20:6,5) "after the thousand years have ended".
This is why the "144000" and the "Great Crowd" are depicted by scripture, as two different groups.
Yet in the end, the survivors of the Great Tribulation, battle for Truth (Rev.12:10-11; Luke 12:8; Rev.6:9-11; Mark 8:35; Rev.11:8), alongside Christ at Armageddon (Rev.17:14; 19:14,8), and are united with the previous "144000", in the Lamb's scroll of life (Zech.3:7-8,9-10; Rev.3:5).

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Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Sources of Persecution against the Holy Ones / Why must the faithful, die?

After a discussion surrounding the nature of current persecution within the WT organization against the Chosen Elect of God; and how that persecution is the means through which the anointed receive their seal, I was asked the following questions:

1: “If the anointed need to be disfellowshipped (killed -John 16:2) in order to be sealed, then they would need to have been a part of false religion. What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then? ”” 

PREFACE:
Previous to the Chosen becoming mature/(sealed) into the full-grown stature of Christ (Eph.4:13-14;  1Cor.2:6,16; 13:11; 14:20; Phil.3:10), they are under the care of ("belong to") a steward/household manager (1Cor.4:1,15-16; Gal.4:1-2,19; Col.1:25; Luke 12:42). 
With spiritual growth (Heb.5:14; Col.1:28; Heb.12:23;  2Pet.1:4), comes the need for each individual to take a stand and die for the Truth 
(Mark 4:28-29; John 12:24;  1Cor.15:36; Mark 13:13; 8:35; Matt.25:6; Heb.13:13; Rom.6:5; Rev.6:9-11). 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/10/coming-to-life.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/wheat-and-weed-seeds-grow-up-and-mature.html

That death is often sourced, with a wicked steward (Luke 12:45-46; 16:1-2).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-stewards-sacred-trust.html
https://pearl-wastefulsteward.blogspot.com/
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/01/by-this-love-among-yourselves-all-will.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/10/why-does-master-delay-luke1235-stay.html

We today, can come to recognize how that "death" is presently occurring. (see 8 links above)
The question now being asked, essentially is;
'How could the anointed who existed previous to the "Watchtower", become sealed by a death for truth?'

NOTE: There is a pattern for those who finish the course of Christ (Phil.3:10-12,16-17;  1Pet.2:21; Matt.16:24-25; Rom.6:5-6,7-8) and become sealed. 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=becoming+sealed

The same destination of being sealed, has a path that varies between those who are sealed during the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Christ, and those sealed during the Great Tribulation (which occurs after the "Thousand Years"). 
This directly pertains to the question at hand, because the "thousand years" are before the emergence of the "Watchtower", and the Great Tribulation occurs when the "Watchtower" exists.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-day-and-night-of-thousand-years-two.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
(for more information about when the "thousand years" take place, please use the search box)

Those sealed during the "thousand years" and before Satan's release from the abyss (Rev.20:7) (and his subsequent installation of the False Prophet and it's Beast) (Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8; 13:1,4,11,14-15; 19:20)...
...were never conquered by those agents of Satan (Rev.20:4). 
Those who had been taken captive and conquered (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7) after Satan's release (and during the Great Tribulation), must repent, be washed clean, and ride forth with Christ in the battle against those agents of demonic deception (Rev.15:2; 2:26-27; 17:14;  2Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:12).

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My reply:
Your two questions are at the apex of much information, which could have subsets of questions, beneath them. To be thorough, I will break those questions down, in my attempt to make a fuller reply, clear and comprehensible.
In order to accept some of the assertions to follow; background information will need to be researched and studied before it is accepted. 
In order to stick to the questions at hand, I will not include all that information here and now, but will insert links for those who deem the assertions, unproven by scripture. Please use the linked references, as needed.

1a: "Before the watchtower organisation"
Those with a knowledge of "Watchtower" history, are familiar with the idea that this organization started in the late 1800s. Although the organization itself, claims it's origin with God's first martyr Abel... due to it's claim of being God's collective of righteous witnesses (Matt.23:35; Heb.11:4; 12:24). 
...that claim is error. The general population of JWs, are not members of the "Chosen" Elect (Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet.2:9), nor were they all martyred on the altar of God's spiritual Temple, as were the group of martyrs to which Abel belonged (Rev.6:9-11; Heb.12:24).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/who-are-yhwhs-witnesses.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/who-become-gods-people.html

Regarding the origin of the "Watchtower", here are the facts:
The organization was formed in 1881 as Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society for the purpose of distributing religious tracts. The society was incorporated in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on December 15, 1884. In 1896, the society was renamed Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
Founders: Charles Taze Russell
Place founded: Pittsburgh
And so, when you ask about the period "before the watchtower was organized", that would mean the period in which anointed existed, previous to the formation of the "Watchtower" organization.
That period would run between Pentecost 33CE (John 7:38-39; Acts 1:4-5,9; 2:1-2,3-4,32-33), to roughly around 1881.

With that period now clarified, we can move forward.

Next we need to grasp, that according to your question, there are two distinct periods during which, the anointed Chosen Elect members of God's Temple priesthood, exist. Both of those periods are previous to the arrival of God's eternal Kingdom.
Obviously, those two periods are 
1. 33 CE thru 1881,
and 
2. 1881 thru to the End (Rev.2:26;  1Cor.15:24-25;  2Thess.2:8;  1Cor.15:26; Rev.20:14-15;  1Pet.4:7;  2Pet.3:7,10-11,12-13)

Those two periods, coincide with two Bible periods...
1. The "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus Christ 
        [starts: 33CE - Ends: Birth of "Watchtower" kingdom over anointed]
2. Lifespan of "Watchtower" kingdom 
        [captivates and conquers the anointed, Gentiles trample God's Temple priesthood into powerlessness (the Great Tribulation) and 
         Armageddon. Ends: God's Kingdom)

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-remaining-ones.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/why-jesus-came-to-earth-last-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/02/two-witnesses-lampstands.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/12/here-is-earlier-post-with-updates.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/02/thought-from-friend-read-rev-184-again_9845.html

To summarize all major spiritual eras, in chronological order...
1. Creation TO Christ and the spiritual begetting of sons of God, including...
2. The "Thousand Year" reign of Christ.
3. Release of Satan from Abyss / end of "thousand years" / Satan's short period of time / 
    Great Tribulation + Armageddon / TO The End
4. Victory of Armageddon / Eternal Kingdom of God commences, 
    given to Jesus Christ and his Holy Ones

Your question pertains to eras 2 & 3.
How so?
---The period of anointed ones, before the "Watchtower", runs from Pentecost TO the end of the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus and the release of Satan from the abyss (Rev.20:7).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/11/satans-release-how.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-happened-in-1914.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-has-key-to-abyss.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-have-found-typing-mistakes-below-and.html

---The period after which the "Watchtower" emerges, runs from Satan's release/Great Tribulation/Armageddon, TO the End of Satanic rule (and the start of God's Kingdom).

With this chronology establish, we can proceed with your question:
What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

The anointed always belong to the Body of Christ, which includes the steward appointed to feed that household (Rom.12:5; Eph.2:19; Matt.24:45). That steward can prove to be either faithful, or wicked (Matt.10:36; 24:48-49,50-51). Both the wicked and the righteous generations, exist throughout time (Gen.3:15; Matt.13:30; Rev.12:17,7)(Ps.112:2; Phil.2:15)... from Cain -vs- Abel, down to the "Two witnesses"/last chaste Virgins -vs- the last adulterous Harlot/"two-horned" false prophet (Rev.13:11; Isa.28:15)(Rev.14:4-5). It is an enmity without rest, until the final battle is won.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/spiritual-virginity-what-is-it.html

The wicked appear rich, powerful, and glorious. 
The faithful, appear despised, weak, and foolish 
 (1Cor.4:8-10,11-13; Rev.3:17-18;  2Cor.11:3-5,12-15,23-25,26-27,28,29-30; 12:9-10; 13:4)
Why those contrasting appearances?
Who is it, that rules over the desire of the eyes? Who is it that bestows worldly glory, dominion, power, and riches?
The unfaithful have a respectable appearance, because they have failed the test of Satan (Luke 4:5-7). In contrast, the faithful, are given the glory of Christ (John 17:22).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/12/glory.html

The wicked are the ones with worldly power, authority, and glory. Like the Jewish religious leaders; they are the ones responsible for the slaughter of the faithful (Matt.23:37,32,34-35; Rev.18:24; 6:10; 19:2). This has been going on, since Cain and Abel (1John 3:12; 2:9-11; 4:20-21).

As we learned above about the maturation of the sons of the kingdom... it takes time in the individual life of each chosen one, to reach the full grown stature of Christ, which entails a death for truth. While still a babe, such ones are under the stewardship of the wicked and powerful... similar to how Jesus was (Gal.4:4; Luke 2:46,50-52; John 1:11). 
As such ones grow to recognize the umbrella of corruption they are under; their truth-loving heart chaffs under the unjust oppression and deceptive doctrine (Eph.5:11; Rev.2:2-3;  2Cor.11:12-13; Ps.26:4; Eph.4:25). They no longer wish to condone the climate of rebelliousness toward God (Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3). They long to establish their loyalty and love for their heavenly Father and the truths of Jesus Christ 
(2Cor.10:3-5; Rev.19:11,14,8; 12:10-11; 17:14).
The result? 
They faithfully follow the path of Jesus, all the way to it's inevitable end... a death for truth. They become sealed as slaves to God alone.

There is no shortage of that wicked generation (Matt.23:33,36; Phil.2:15; John 8:44). But Jesus assures us, that if we seek them out, we will also be able to identify the righteous generation (Ps.14:5; 112:2; Matt.24:34; 7:20)... and those appointed by Jesus (Luke 12:42; Rev.11:3), who are faithful in providing the proper food at the proper time. 
https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/who-really-is.html

We can recognize them, by their lasting fruit, and their fulfilling the sign of the Son of Man (Matt.12:40; 24:28; Rev.11:7-8).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-sign-of-son-of-man.html

So again I post your question;
"What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

Before the "Watchtower" organization was formed; those anointed striving to be faithful, would need to divorce themselves from the powerful religious corruption surrounding them. We have within historical accounts, many who lived that pattern of both corruption and faithfulness.


The point that I hope was gleaned, is that in order to reign with Jesus, they Chosen must also prove faithful to the death, while being sifted by Satan their enemy. That is why they need to die in order to be sealed (Rev.6:9-11; Mark 8:35; Rev.12:10-11). 

This proves that despite Satanic temptation and persecution, their love of Christ and his truths, are more important to them than their own lives... just as was the case with Jesus. By manifesting that love in their righteous actions and choices (despite threat of death), they are sealed as slaves of God and qualified to inherit the Kingdom.

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