Saturday, July 20, 2013

Who are the "144,000"?

IN RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS:

The 144000 is an interesting symbolic number. It's meaning is consistent throughout the Bible as well as in the book of Revelation.
Briefly, we are told that this number is also symbolized by 24 elders (Rev.4:10,11). Quite a switch.
But something interesting happens when you try to see what each elder represents, in relation to the 144000. We are naturally inclined to divide the 24 into 144000 to see how many of the 144000 each elder represents. It is 6000. So each single elder is 6000. When we think about numbers in the rest of the Bible, we notice that 12 seems to have a lot of meaning....
12 tribes of Israel, 12 apostles, 12,000 in each sealed group.
Yet we saw that each elder was 6,000. It would seem that each tribe has 2 elders, would it not?
Now we are getting closer to the meaning of 12. It is TWO 6's.
This reminded me that 2 witnesses are needed to establish truth (John 8:17; Rev.11:3). So if that's true, then TWO 6's (witnesses) always have to be put together to make 12....the symbol for truth.
Now this opens up more.
What about 666? Well there is no twelve there, just three single 6's. What does the bible say about a single witness? (see John5:31; 8:13; Deut.19:15; 17:6; Matt.26:60; Num.35:30)
You may get the drift, that according to the Bible, one witness is a good as a liar. What about these three sixes? Are there really three liars (666) mentioned anywhere in the Bible? Sure looks like it, at Rev.16:13.
So if 12 really stands for truth (2 witnesses) and 6 stands for a single witness (or a lie/liar) then what does this have to do with 144000?

A closer look at 12X12=144 (Rev.21:17) shows that 144000 represents numbers that signify prolific truth throughout the earth. 144000 = 12X12X10X10X10 (I know we didn't go into the meaning of  10X10X10 (a thousand), but it signifies all throughout the earth, or earthly fullness of time and space...a full witness given throughout the earth) (Isa.60:22; Gen.22:17-18; 26:4).

That is what the job of this group is, and will be more-so, when it is completely constructed.
That job of spreading truth is consistent with the living stones which make up this spiritual temple
(1Pet.2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22; Rev.14:5; Mal.2:7; Rev.1:5-6)
(John14:6; Matt.25:14; Luke12:43-44; Matt.28:18).

When the Temple/City is measured, it is said to "measure" 144 cubits.
Note that the measurement is as a man/human, and as an angel. (Rev.21:17)
The number may be both spiritual/symbolic,
and literal/physical. It also means, that the living stones are both human and angel... being both flesh and spirit (1Pet.1:23; Rom.8:9; Eph.2:6; Eze.41:18-19)
(pearl-materialize.blogspot.com) (pearl-holycity.blogspot.com)

As far as the Great Crowd goes, I am familiar with the doctrine which teaches that they are not a part of the 144000. I believed that myself for many years.
But if one interprets the traits of this group, as given to us in the Bible, it becomes clear that they have to be anointed priests in heaven (Rev.19:1). WHAT???
You may say, "How can that be?"
Not many people have considered the possibility that the Great Crowd is not separate from the meaning of 144000, but is a segment of the 144000. How big a segment, no one can determine, or, no man can number. All we are told is that the Great Crowd, are great....but then, this is symbolic (No one knows how big they are, remember?), and infers that they have successfully faced the Great Tribulation. (Does it not take a "great" group, to pass the "greatest" test?) It is by means of God's promise, that He makes them "great" (Gen.12:2; Matt.5:19).
There is a reason why the great crowd and the 144000 are mentioned as separate groups at Rev.7.

The Great Crowd can be included in God's priestly group who stand for truth (symbolic meaning of 144000) when that number is regarded as not so much literal and numerical, but as those who testify to truth. There can be a group of Testifiers to Truth ("144000"), later joined by more who Testify to Truth. Although the group increases, the label of that number's meaning, remains the same.

Yet a distinction is made in Rev.7, between the 144000, and those who appear "afterward" (Rev.7:9).
We are told in Rev. ch.20, that the 144000 reign with Christ during the Thousand years (Rev.20:4-6). It is after the "Thousand Years", that Satan is released, and the Great Tribulation ensues (Rev.20:2-3,7) (Satan's "short time" of release Rev.20:3; 12:12,17).

During the "Thousand Years", Satan is restrained. Those who rule with Christ during that time, are not overcome by Satan's Beasts and their slave mark (Rev.20:4) (LINK)(LINK). After Satan's release, he empowers the false prophet and it's Beast, with powerful deception (Rev.16:13-16; 13:4,11; 20:7-8; 17:14; 20:9; 11:3,5; Jer.5:14; 23:29; Matt.10:20) (2Thess.2:9,11,8; Rev.2:16).
Initially, the Great Crowd are overcome (Rev.13:7; Dan.11:31-33; Rev.13:10 <Col.2:8; Luke21:24; Rev.11:2; Matt.5:13) (LINK). Of these, a remnant of those who face the Great Tribulation, will be saved (Matt.24:24-25,21-22; Dan.12:1; Jer.23:3; Mark13:26-27). These survivors, are the Great Crowd.

Therefore, the experience of the Great Crowd, differs from the previous faithful priests.
The previous 144000 had never accepted the slave mark of the Beasts (Rev.20:4) who are unleashed during the Great Tribulation (Rev.13:1,11). The remnant (remaining ones of the seed -Rev.12:17,15) are overcome (Rev.13:7), and must be rescued (Jer.31:11; Isa.48:20; 51:11). These are required to repent of their soiled identity, and be given white robes (Zech.3:3-4,8; Rev.3:18; Isa.1:18; Eze.18:27; Rev.19:8; 7:9,14). Not all, repent (Rev.2:21-22; 9:20-21; 16:9-11) (1Kings8:46-50; Mal.3:6).

The previous group of 144000 were in the Lamb's book of life during Christ's "Thousand Year" reign ("first resurrection"). The "second death"--
    (being overcome by death again, after having received redemption from Adamic sin and "first" death
    -Rom.5:12; John6:63; 5:24; 1Cor.15:45; 1Pet.1:23)
--"has no hold" on those previous "144000" (Rev.20:6; Luke10:19).
Yet for a time, the "sting" of the agents of death (1Cor.15:55,26; Rev.20:5,14), gains a hold on the remnant (Rev.9:10) during Satan's release and Great Tribulation. (LINK)

When the Chosen who are living after the Thousand Years, are overcome by the released Satan and the resources of his abyss; they are overcome once again by death. having lost their slave mark of God (Deut.11:18), (being slave-marked by the laws of the Beast -Rev.13:16)
(Rev.13:7; 9:4-6,10; 7:3) (mark-of-beast) (666)
Yet there will be those who repent, are saved, and are added to those who receive life (Rev.3:3,19; 20:6,5) "after the thousand years have ended".
This is why the "144000" and the "Great Crowd" are depicted by scripture, as two different groups.
Yet in the end, the survivors of the Great Tribulation, battle alongside Christ at Armageddon (Rev.17:14; 19:14,8), and are united with the previous "144000", in the Lamb's scroll of life (Zech.3:7-10).

It's worth taking a look at each detail that the Bible gives us about the Great Crowd, and compare it to what the Bible says about those who have those traits (ie. white robes, sacred service in the temple, palm branches, etc.).
When we see what the Bible says about those traits, their identity pops out.
(Rev.19:1,8; Num.3:10; 2Chron.23:6; etc.)
If you are interested in more, here's a place to start...
4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/04/anointed-flockthe-truth.html
and if you've got more study time...
pearl-greatcrowd.blogspot.com
and
pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com

The first link touches upon and changes the assumed identity of the little flock, and the One Flock/One Shepherd. We have many errors to leave behind (Luke17:30,31,32).
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