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Monday, July 9, 2012

Awakening

A QUESTION:
Hi Pearl,
I have just begun to read your blog and your articles. Thank you for taking the time to do those things.
I am 25 years old and was raised as a witness....I am actually 6th generation on my moms side.
As of late I feel lost and pulled in many directions. I do not feel any love coming from the organization. I do not feel satisfied with the explanations for certain teachings. I feel intellectually stifled by being discouraged from doing outside research or being afraid to raise questions in fear of being labeled apostate.
I appreciated your article on titles and pioneering (http://pearl-titles.blogspot.com/ ).
This was a major issue of mine since my entire immediate family started pioneering 2 years ago. My mom, dad, and younger brother. in addition to feeling like the black sheep, I took issue with the special school, special book, special lunches, and dinners and get-togethers. Pioneers should be taking the lead and setting an example. But instead they form a club. They mostly go out during the week with other pioneers and many skip sat morning service.....i'm beginning to rant.
I have begun to do a lot of reading and research. I have been very wary tho. Maybe because of an ingrained thinking that all outside out dissenting opinions or teachings are evil and apostate. How do I know who to trust? I know I must only trust God and the Bible, but there are many deep things if the Bible that need to be explained through the anointed on earth, but as you have stated many if these anointed are either deliberately or unknowingly teaching things which are false. How can I trust what anyone says including yourself?....I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. Should I be seeking out other anointed ones to talk to or read their words?
Is the Bible even written for non anointed ones?
What is my role and responsibility as a non-anointed "Jehovah's witness"? I have stopped going to meeting due to what I see in the organization. I lost faith in God momentarily.
I could not understand why, if I am suppose to make a choice between God and satan, I was not able to make a real informed decision....I felt God was hidden from me, and if I was not even sure of his distance then how could I choose him? How could anyone?
And now if the very organization that he has chosen is going to try to mislead me, and the other anointed are both scattered and teaching differing things, what do I do?
The book(s) by brother Franz, are they ok to read? .....you can tell I have been taught that they are dangerous and apostate lol.
not sure what I am looking for in emailing you, but I was compelled to. Sorry it was not more coherently laid out.
Thank you.

REPLY:

Hello Xxxx,
I am very happy to hear from you, and that you decided to write me.
I will try to take each thing you bring up (the points you make are excellent), and let you know what I glean from scripture regarding them.
Yhvh has indicated that he will draw those who have a heart that pleases Him. Without that undeserved kindness and mercy, all of us would,
on our own, remain blind and dead. Because of your quote..."As of late I feel lost and pulled in many directions. I do not feel any love coming from the organization. I do not feel satisfied with the explanations for certain teachings. I feel intellectually stifled by being discouraged from doing outside research or being afraid to raise questions in fear of being labeled apostate."...

I believe that you are one of those of whom God's spirit is causing to "wake up". As you can imagine, this is a mixed blessing. Satan is against these, and along with godly devotion, comes persecution (2Tim. 3:12; Eph.6:12).
Your comments to follow, show that your heart is indeed on the right path (Eze.9:4). You have safeguarded your thinking ability, and trained your perceptive powers to distinguish between right and wrong (Prov.3:21,22,23,24,25,26; Heb.5:14). Our heavenly Father supports such ones (Ps.97:10). Those marked by the "Beast" have abdicated (1John 4:1;  2Cor. 13:5; 11:3-4) these responsibilities to the "image" of their god (Rev.13:15,16) and will suffer the consequences of allowing themselves to be mislead (Rev.13:8;  2Thess. 2:10).
It is good however, that you are wary (1John 4:1). This is the period of time where expressions inspired by demons are at work (1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13). Many anointed will fall to this deception (Matt.24:24; Rev.12:4; 13:7).

If you have noticed, both the Harlot daughter of Babylon the Great (Rev.17:5), and the faithful woman's Virgin daughters, are both located in the "wilderness" leading up to the end (Rev.17:3; 12:6).
This is a symbol of a time of testing (Matt.4:1), just as it was for the Israelites previous to their arrival to the Land of Promise.
This day of test, is for each anointed one to prove what their own work is (1Cor. 3:12,13,14). Jesus gave many warnings to his anointed slaves about this hour (Rev.3:10; 16:14; Matt.25:13;  1John 2:18). Only those who "keep awake" will be found "standing" when he returns (Luke 21:36; Mal.3:2,3). The rest of the anointed will suffer shame (Rev.3:18; 16:15).
I tell you these things, because during this "hour", all the spiritual air which surrounds us, is befouled by pervasive falsehood (Rev.8:10,11,12; 16:10,13,15; 9:2).

Jesus knew we would be facing this. For this reason, he gave guidance for recognizing the true prophets from the false (Matt.7:20; John 13:34,35).
I hope you will consider http://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com
which article offers Jesus words, relevant to this selecting of "the proper food"/"fruit".
The truth is, that according to my own "roving about" (Dan.12:4); I have seen a sea of error, which it seems all are drowning in (Rev.12:15,16; 18:3; Jer.51:7; Isa.28:7,15,17,18,19).
Take heart that this was all prophesied, during this hour of test. Everyone, anointed and not, are proving the source of their teachings and therefore, their god.
Continue to be extremely selective. It means your life.
It is true that the anointed are needed for understanding. Many take offense at this thought. All the scriptural indications of this are contained in the article,
Please know that I do not take the slightest offense at being scrutinized or critiqued. Any anointed one may prove unfaithful. Only God, Jesus, and the Bible can be trusted implicitly.
And so, any anointed one must measure up to the requisites given by Christ. (in first article)
The Bible is written for all, but not all parts for all.


It may help you to resort to the scriptural description of the faithful remnant, in discerning who they are. I will review with you, those verses. 
At Rev.11:1, we are told:
"I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers."
The "Temple" and "altar" being measured, are the anointed 
(1Cor. 3:16;  1Pet. 2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22; Rev.6:9,10,11).

Verse 2 reads:
"But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.They will trample on the holy city for 42 months."

The "courtyard" of the "Temple" has been defiled by the Nations/Gentiles, and doesn't measure up to God's standards. Those ruling priests in covenant with Yhvh have done this thing (Isa.22:15,16,17,18,19; Luke 16:3; Ezek.44:7,8). THEY have brought in the Gentile "Image" of worship (Eze.5:11; 8:5,6; 23:38; 33:11; Rev.13:14,15,8; Eze.44:7; 30:3; Jer.13:20,21) John is told to "cast it clear out" , (or "dis-possess" them, and "turn to flight"; according to Greek and Hebrew--as Deut.7:17 and Heb.11:34 puts it for cross reference)  (Deut.7:17,21,22,23,24,26; Exo.22:20; Rev.13:8; Isa.62:10). 
This "casting out" is the same Greek world used for casting out demons (Mark 16:17; John 12:31).
Deut.7:17 reflects a lack of confidence on the part of those who will do this casting out (Rev.13:4).


This "Gentile" courtyard is also accused of  "trampling the holy city underfoot" (Rev.13:7; Matt.24:15; Dan.9:27; 11:16 --(Rev.13:4); Dan.11:31; 12:11).
Here is an excellent reference on exactly what parts of the Temple have been defiled by the "Gentiles"...

Rev. 11:1  And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Rev. 11:2  But the court which is WITHOUT the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot 42 months.


The sanctuary in Daniel 8:11 & 13 is cast down and trodden, but in Revelation 11:2, portions of the sanctuary are afforded some means of protection, symbolized by its measurement by John (see, for example, Zechariah 2:1-5) (3).  In addition, in Daniel the pollution of the sanctuary seems to include the very portion that is protected in Revelation. The problem here arises from the identification of the “court” in Revelation 11:2a with the Outer Court of the Temple, namely the Court of the Gentiles. 
               
1)  The Abomination of Desolation, the removal of the daily sacrifice, & the presence of Gentiles in the sanctuary all indicate that more than just the OUTER COURT of the temple was polluted.  In fact it is strong evidence that AT LEAST the INNER COURT of the temple was somehow defiled by these Gentiles.  (Although not proven here, the “army” of Dan 11:31, and the “little horn” and “host given him” in Daniel 8 are almost certainly Gentiles, as an analysis of Daniel’s prophecies quite readily show). 


2)  The Outer Court was the “court of the Gentiles,” so the natural question is why would the presence of Gentiles in the outer court be reason for its casting out?  On the other hand, the presence of Gentiles in the Inner Court (see below) was an abomination and cause for pollution in and of itself.


One possible solution, which I propose, is that the passage in Revelation is misinterpreted.  It is not the OUTER COURT which is actually cast out, but the INNER COURT.  


1)  Beale in his commentary on Revelation says “A few manuscripts have ‘inner court’ instead of ‘outer court’ (Uncial #1, 2329, al, vgs, syph, Vic.).”  Although Beale does not believe this is the original, he does state that one possible reason for the error was “the copyists thinking that the inner court of the temple originally was in mind and that their predecessors had miscopied the text.”   (4).

2)  Even if the text in fact reads “outer,” another possible translation of the text is “the court that is outside the temple.” (5)  Beale goes on to say that “Snyder prefers ‘the court that is outside the temple,’ which she concludes refers to the court outside the sanctuary* where the altar of burned offerings was located; consequently for her it is that altar which is in mind in Rev.11:2 instead of the altar of incense.”  (6) (7)

*The Greek word “naos,” although sometimes used to refer to the entire temple complex (Matt 26:61, 27:5, John 2:20), more often refers to the temple proper which included the “inner sanctuary or inside house where only priests were allowed” (8).  The altar of Revelation 11:1 may refer to either the altar of incense inside the naos (which many prefer), or to the altar before the naos in the Inner Court, that is, the altar of burnt offerings. 

3)  The Naos (Holy Place and Holy of Holies) and the altar which stood just outside the Naos, are said to be “measured, ” (Rev 11:1).  John is never actually told to measure the Inner Court, so the implication is that it is not included in the measurements.   If the outer court is cast out, and only the Altar and Naos measured, that leaves the tent that forms the Inner Court conspicuously unmeasured.

Put another way, if the naos and altar (regardless of whether it is the altar of burnt offering or the altar of incense), are the only objects measured and protected, then this emphasizes the exclusion of everything  around them including the Inner Court.

4)  The expression “cast out,” translated “leave out” in the KJV, implies that something was “within.”  This further indicates the original term may have been “esothen,” (within).  In other words, the court “within” is cast “without.”  Mounce in his commentary on Revelation says that ‘esothen’ [within]… makes ‘ekballo’ [cast out] more understandable.” (9)

5)  The Daily Sacrifice was in the Inner Court.  If the Outer Court, the court of the Gentiles, is cast out, why would the daily sacrifice cease?  This is better understood if the court referred to in Revelation 11:2 is the Inner Court.  The reason the daily sacrifice is taken away is because with the absence of the tent that formed the Inner Court, Israel’s approach to God, along with their sacrifices were removed.  Any sacrifices would be defiled before ever being allowed on the altar.  The daily sacrifice, therefore, would be effectively “removed” with the pollution of the inner court.

Furthermore, if the “altar” in Revelation 11:1 is the altar of incense, then everything outside the naos would be excluded including the altar of burnt offerings where the daily sacrifices were made.  If this is true, John is essentially saying that the only thing left Holy, by God’s divine power, was the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies, along with its worshipers.

6)  Matthew (see arguments below for further detail) records that the “abomination of desolation” is set up in the “holy place.”  Although the “holy place” could possibly refer to the “outer court,” it more likely refers to the inner court or even the Holy Place itself (see below).

New Testament Allusion 2; Old Testament Allusion 3]  The Abomination of Desolation

Matt 24:15  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Matt 24:16  Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Matt 24:21  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Mark 13:14  But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Mark 13:19  For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.


Compared to Luke’s account in the Olivet Discourse, Matthew and Mark describe the same period of time, but do not mention the surrounding of the city by armies, nor the trampling of Jerusalem by Gentiles.  Matthew and Mark, on the hand, replace this event with another…the abomination of desolation.  It seems then, although not recorded in Revelation 11, that this abomination of desolation is somehow associated with the “treading of the Gentiles.” 

In addition they both mention that this abomination is set up in a place that it should not be, and according to Matthew it is “in the holy place.”  Before continuing, if the abomination was set up in THE Holy Place, then this contradicts Revelation 11:1-2, since the NAOS, including the Holy Place, is measured and not cast out.  This is quickly resolved by observing a passage from the book of Acts in which Paul was said to defile “the holy place” as well.

Acts 21:26  Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Acts 21:27  And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,
Acts 21:28  Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

The exact same Greek phrase is used here for “holy place,” but does not refer to the Holy Place itself but to the temple, in this case, the hierion.  The “hierion” included not just the NAOS but the entire Temple complex, including the courts.  In other words, Paul was being accused of polluting A holy place, not THE Holy Place by bringing Gentiles into the Inner Court.  The same is probably true of Matthew 24:15.  The pollution did not occur in the Holy Place, but inside the Inner Court. 

But this abomination is not mentioned by the author of Revelation.  Is there a connection between the abomination and the treading of the Gentiles?

1)  As seen already from the account in Acts, the presence of Gentiles within the temple itself causes pollution of the temple (Acts 21:28). 

2)  Daniel also makes a connection between the presence of some ‘army’ or host and the abomination of desolation. 

Dan.8:11  Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
Dan.8:12  And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Dan.8:13  Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

Dan.11:31  And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Dan.9:26  And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan.9:27  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

There is no surprise then that Luke uses the Gentile presence in Jerusalem and Matthew and Mark use the ‘abomination of desolation’ since the two are intimately connected in Daniel.  The Gentile presence, the “arms” of Daniel 11:31 are the ones that ultimately “set up” the “abomination.”  Furthermore, what this indicates is the presence of Gentiles themselves within the Inner Court which defile the Inner Court, causing it to be “cast out.” 

3)  There is a strong connection in the Old Testament between the presence of Gentiles and the defilement of the sanctuary, usually in connection to the sins and disobedience of Israel.  In Leviticus we find a warning to the Israelites in the wilderness what God would do if they walked contrary to his commandments.

Lev.26:27  And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me …
Lev.26:31  And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours.
Lev.26:32  And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.
Lev.26:33  And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.

4)  In the book of Lamentations, a picture of the destruction of the temple and land by the Babylonians is recorded.  Here we again we also see the trampling of Jerusalem as well as the defilement of the sanctuary.

Lam.1:10  The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her pleasant things: for she hath seen that the heathen entered into her sanctuary, whom thou didst command that they should not enter into thy congregation.
Lam.4:12  The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.
Lam.4:13  For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,

5) In a Psalm of Asaph, a similar message is seen, with additional connections to the two witnesses and the martyrs of Revelation (discussed further in the next section).

Ps.79:1  A Psalm of Asaph. O God, the heathen are come into thine inheritance; thy holy temple have they defiled; they have laid Jerusalem on heaps.
Ps.79:2  The dead bodies of thy servants have they given to be meat unto the fowls of the heaven, the flesh of thy saints unto the beasts of the earth.
Ps.79:3  Their blood have they shed like water round about Jerusalem; and there was none to bury them.

6) Finally, in Ezekiel’s Temple vision, Ezekiel is told to give a message to the rebellious house of Israel regarding the strangers that they brought into the house of the Lord.  Here it seems that their sin included both bringing Gentiles (uncircumcised in flesh) as well as unholy Jewish priests (uncircumcised in heart) into the temple.


Eze 44:6  And thou shalt say to the rebellious, [even] to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; O ye house of Israel, let it suffice you of all your abominations,
Eze 44:7  In that ye have brought … strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.
Eze 44:8  And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves.
Eze 44:9  Thus saith the Lord GOD; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.


It should be obvious then that there is an intimate connection between the presence of Gentiles in the holy city of Jerusalem and the defilement of the temple, usually by their presence within the temple itself.  The importance of this connection is that this firmly places the 42 months of Revelation 11:2, the treading of the Gentiles, within the second period, since the desolation of the temple occurred at the beginning of the second period 
(Matthew 24:15-16, Mark 14:13-19, Daniel 9:26-27).
See Psalm 79.

If the "holy city" is being trampled underfoot (Rev.11:2 c; Isa.26:13), then this involves these two faithful witnesses. At Rev.3:12, and Rev.21:2; we see that those sealed ones belong to this "holy city" which is being trampled (Rev.13:7). 
No one should rule over God's chosen anointed priests, except their head and high priest...the glorified Christ (Eze.21:25,26,27; Isa.26:5,6).
Previous to John being given the command to cast out/dispossess the Gentiles from ruling in the Temple ("given" into the hands of "the Gentiles"), the anointed had accepted this dominance over them. This is why the two witnesses needed to repent (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; Jer.13:19,20,21; Lam.4:17,12,1,2,11,16,18,19,20,21,22) and take their God assigned temple priestly service, back. Some anointed will (Eze.44:15,16; Isa.26:2), some won't (Eze.44:10). This is why Rev.11:1 shows that these are individually being measured up.
The inner courtyard being ruled by the Gentiles, is beyond repentance 
(see pearl-winepress.blogspot.com).
All of them, are worshiping this Gentile Beast (Rev.13:8) and it's false Prophet (Rev.8:10,11; 9:1; 13:11; 17:1; 19:20; 20:10). But the anointed are still free to choose who they will obey; the Gentiles, or Yhvh. The "two witnesses" choose wisely, and repent. They will pay a price for this loyalty, they will be "thrown out" from performing their duties for the courtyard (John 16:2;  2Chron. 13:9)  
(Rev.11:7; 12:11; 13:7,15; 6:11; 17:6;  2Chron. 20:11,12; Psalm 79:1,2,3,4; Rev.11:8,9,10)


Next, in Rev.11:3, Jesus begins his description of these two witnesses..
"And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
These "two" are appointed by Christ himself. They are anointed ones (John 15:16; Rev.5:9,10). These are the ones he found being faithful at his return (Matt.24:46,47). 
Why "two"? 
That symbol means that these ones are teaching truth (John 8:17). Note that they are dressed in sackcloth. This indicates their past guilt and repentance (which is covered in many prophecies about the remnant) 
Joel 1:13; Dan.9:2,3,4,5,7,14,16,17,18,19,24,26,27; 11:32,35; 12:9,10; Isa.26:16,17,18,19,20,21
This guilt reflects that these of the Temple, were a part of the sins of the courtyard, but they have repented in sackcloth (Isa.22:12; Job 42:6). Scriptures indicate that this courtyard and Temple of God, are those bearing God's name (Jer.25:29;  1Pet. 4:17; Eze.9:6; Dan.9:17,18,19).
And Jesus says that he will "cause" these "two witnesses" "to prophesy".
This means that these two, are Prophets.
According to God's own decree, this means that these two have received visions of truth from Yhvh's Holy Spirit (Num.12:6; Acts 2:17,18). Despite this, we also know that these prophets will not be accepted,  recognized, or appreciated (Rev.11:7,9,10) And so, in the midst of all the confusion and "roving about" (Dan.12:4,10); these "two" will be prophesying "true knowledge". The next verse, Dan.12:5, shows that this knowledge is associated with these two. This is confirmed in Zech.4:3,5,8,9,10,11,12,13,14. And Zech. is confirmed in Rev.11:4 which follows Rev.11:3.
Rev.11:4 ...
"They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”

And so, if we review all these traits...
The faithful "two witnesses" would:
-be anointed
-teach truth
-be repentant of the sins being committed by God's people (courtyard of worship) which sin is
                 accepting a rule by Gentiles, rather than by Christ and his Father
-being "trampled" underfoot by Gentiles who are ruling in God's people (courtyard of God's
                 worship) when these faithful no longer accept that Gentile rule. (Eze.30:3; Luke 21:24)
                 (Spiritual Gentiles are not anointed "Jews" -Rom.2:29)
-would have been given truth through vision, in order to prophesy (Rev.11:3; Num.12:6)
-Have been appointed by Christ and empowered by him to prophesy.
-are not generally accepted or recognized by God's own people
-will be persecuted for the Truth they preach

As for your next question, "What is my role and responsibility as a non anointed jehovas witness?"...
According to God himself...His "witnesses" are the anointed "chosen" ones (see Isa.43:10 a; 1Pet.2:9,10).
You ask about your responsibility before God, as one not anointed.
The scriptures answer this question. God is more distant from those not anointed, IF they do not join themselves to a faithful ambassador of Christ 
(Matt.10:40,41,42; John 13:20;  2Cor. 5:20; Zech.8:23; Jer.31:31,33; Rom.2:29). 
These "chosen" "hills" are God's arrangement for dispensing spiritual nourishment and spirit (Mal.2:7; John 17:14,17,18,21,26;  2Cor. 4:7; Matt.24:16) (in the time of exodus from the "City" "Jerusalem").
The grapes of a vineyard can not receive sustenance, unless they are attached to the branches of the true vine (John 15:5,8). For this reason, the anointed branches must also, remain in union with Christ as their only Head and Vine (1John 2:28; Rom.11:17,18,19,20,21,22). 
Not all have remained in union with Christ and holy spirit during this hour of test (Matt.25:2,8,11,12,13,24,25,30; Rev.17:12,18).
This is the period of time Jesus referred to as "Winter" (Matt.24:20). It is the time when spiritual waters of Truth are "frozen" and scarce. Prophecy says that God is holding them back until the time He decrees...when he will melt them, releasing the anointed from their captive paralyzed condition, and they will then flow truth freely (see Job 38:22,23,29; Psalm 147:15,16,17,18,19,20)
The "scattered" condition (among the Gentiles) of the anointed was prophesied (Jer.31:10; Joel 3:2; Eze.34:6; Zech.14:2), as well as the faithful ones as being gathered together in the near future (Isa.11:12; Eze.20:34; Matt.24:28,31).
In the meantime, we can rely on Jesus' guidance for discerning the "fine trees" (Matt.7:15,16,17,18).
There is another responsibility that the Bible cites for all...including those not anointed. It is the commandment of Christ (John 13:34,35; James 2:8; Matt.22:36,37,38,39,40).
It is a matter of life and death to do this to the "least of Christ's brothers" (Matt.25:40,46; Luke 9:48). Jesus already knew what the "greatest" of his brothers would be inclined to do (Mark 9:33,34; 10:42,43,44,45; Matt.24:48,49). These who glorify themselves (John 7:18) are not the ones proving True. This should help you to discern where to find safe spiritual provisions.

Regarding the "misleading" that now occurs in the Organization...Satan is at the root of it. He has waged war with the remnant of the 144000, and is trying to overtake them with lies (Rev.12:15) in the hope of drowning their hope and Covenant promises. He "got in" through a traitor at the top (Rev.8:10,11; 9:1; 2:5; 13:11; Isa.28:15) 
The collateral damage, is the "earth" surrounding the faithful, which swallows those lies. God justly allows it, because they have taken refuge in their beloved demonic lies, and idolatry. 
(1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13,14; 12:16;  2Thess. 2:9,10,11,12; Isa.28:14,15,17; Rev.13:5,14,8). 
Those lies also mislead the "earth" into hating and mistreating the faithful anointed (Rev.11:3,7,9,10; Matt.25:41,42,43,44,45). This is already being fulfilled, as all those who remain loyal to God, are being disfellowshipped. They are then shunned by J.W.'s as filthy apostates. The Great Majority of JW's are loyal to the Organization/Beast who are "killing" the least of Christ's brothers, rather than treating these faithful ones, with love. Satan has found a way for God's own people to condemn themselves (Matt.25:40; Rev.11:10; 13:8).
And yet, as you pointed out, all the love is "cooling off" (Matt.24:12,13). Jesus was not referring to the world, but to the love of God's own people. It is due to the "increasing of lawlessness", which is due to the rule of the "man of lawlessness" over God's "temple" 
1Cor. 3:16 (the anointed) (2Thess. 2:3). That rule is in opposition to the anointed (2Thess. 2:4), is over them (2Thess. 2:4) and "tramples them underfoot" (Rev.11:1,2). This is the "disgusting thing" "standing"/ruling, in the "holy place"/Temple (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31; 12:7,11).
All this, as well as Yhvh's remedy and rescue, was prophesied.

You may read anything you wish. Just keep in mind that even with the faithful anointed;
 no one has all truth yet. (1Cor. 13:9). As the end approaches, the truth becomes more abundant
among the faithful anointed.
This is covered in the article http://pearl-distinction.blogspot.com


I hope that the spiritual food I have offered you here, answers your need.
If not, feel free to write again.
Because of the quality of your question, I have posted it on my front page. You may find reading it there an advantage, since all the scriptures will "pop-up" for you.
Thanks again Xxxx, and I'm very pleased to have met you.
Pearl


Thursday, December 2, 2021

Abomination of Desolation toward the Constant Feature

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QUESTION:
Would it really be reasonable to conclude that the "constant feature" mentioned at Daniel be "daily sacrifices", because such sacrifices were removed in the old covenant, and already made ONCE and for all time, by the High Priest?"

MY REPLY:
According to the New World Translation of the Bible used by those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses; Daniel 12:11 reads; 
"'And from the time that the constant [feature] has been removed and there has been a placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation, there will be one thousand two hundred and ninety days."

If as you acknowledge, Heb.10:12 NIV tells us that the sacrifice of Jesus is "effective forever"/"for all time"; 
...how is this the sacrifice that is removed and done away with? 
For that to be so; God's Word would be contradictory, which is not possible (John 17:17; Num.23:19; Rom.3:4). 

Can it be reasonable to conclude that the "constant feature" at Dan.12:11 is the daily sacrifices offered by the priests of God's Temple?
A closer consideration of Dan.12:11 tells us, that when the constant feature is removed,
it coincides with the disgusting thing that causes desolation, being placed in its position.

When we understand what that disgusting thing is, where it is placed, and how it is causing desolation to where it is... then we can see clearly, how it removes the constant feature, as well as what that constant feature is.

Jesus told us further details of this disgusting thing, and where it is placed.

According to Matt.24:15, Jesus said it is installed in "the holy place" where it causes desolation.
Where is the "holy place"?
The scriptures repeatedly tell us, that the "holy place" is in God's Temple 
(Ex.28:43 NKJV ; Ex.29:30 NKJV ;  1Chron.6:49; 23:32; Lev.6:16,26). 
Yet that original tabernacle of God, as well as other physical temples... no longer exist (Mark 13:1-2; John 4:20-21). 

Take note!... Moses was told, that the ancient tabernacle was merely a pattern of the eternal, spiritual, and heavenly temple to come (Heb.7:22,23; 8:5; Ex.25:40). 
That spiritual Temple, are, the living stones who comprise the priesthood of anointed in Christ 
(1Pet.2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22;  1Cor.3:16; Rev.5:10). 
God's spirit dwells in their hearts (Isa.57:15; Rom.5:5;  2Cor.1:22; Gal.4:6). 
They have become the "holy place" (1Cor.3:17; 6:19; Eph.2:20,21,22), 
the "holy city" (Ps.48:1; Rev.21:10,2,3; Ps.46:4; Dan.9:24), 
and the "holy mountain" Zion (Isa.56:7; Joel 2:1; Zech.8:3; Ps.24:3; Rev.14:1; 21:10) 
where the priests sacrifices are given, and God is served eternally 
(Eze.20:40; Num.25:13; 18:7,19; Rev.22:3 NIV ).

Mark 13:14 adds that the abomination of desolation is  installed / "standing" 
where it "does not belong".
What is it, that "does not belong" standing within or over God's spiritual Temple or its priests?
Num.18:7; Eze.44:5,6,7,8,9;  2Chron.23:6; Num.18:7; Isa.63:18; Jer.51:51
Obviously... anyone who is not an anointed priest, does not belong in the vicinity of the Holy Place,
  nor serving in a priestly capacity.


It is prophesied, that God's spiritual Temple, IS trespassed upon 
(Rev.11:2; Luke 21:20,24; Rev.13:10,7; Dan.7:25,21; 8:11,12,13,17,19; 10:14; 11:31,32,33; Rev.13:10).
Take note at Dan.8:11,12,13 and Dan.11:31, in each verse it speaks of the sacrifice as being "regular". 
That word denotes that it is not one sacrifice for all time, but a sacrifice that is offered, repeatedly.

Please take note of the connection between the "abomination of desolation" spoken about by Daniel (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:36,37) 
and the "Man of Lawlessness" who is also prophesied to enter God's Holy place / Temple and usurp it... 2Thess.2:3-4. 
God's Temple, the Holy Place... is where that "Man", takes his seat / throne.
Does an identity of lawlessness, belong over God's holy Temple? (Mark 13:14)

Daniel told us what happens, when the "Man of Lawlessness" trespasses and conquers the Temple priesthood of anointed saints 
(Dan.11:31; 9:26,27; 8:11,12).

These two additions contained in Matt.24:15 and Mark 13:14 made clear,
that the constant feature that is removed (Dan.12:11), can certainly be the DAILY, priestly sacrifices.
Heb.10:12 NIV assured us that the constant feature that is removed, cannot be, the value of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ's life.
Dan.8:11 makes plain, that the sanctuary is overthrown. That is where the priests render their daily sacrifices. If overthrown and forced to cease sacrificing; that daily, regular sacrifice, is abolished (Dan.12:11; 8:11; 11:31).

God's priests properly have over them, their high priest.... their commander and head (Rev.19:11,14; 17:14; Heb.4:14; 8:1; 9:11). 
That changes when the sanctuary is taken from him (Dan.8:11-12) 
       ["Prince of heavenly army" -Dan.8:11; 11:22; Rev.19:11,14,8; 17:14; Eph.2:6; Rev.3:21].
       Without their attachment to Jesus, his priests can do nothing (John 15:5-6). 
       The fruit of their lips, ceases (Heb.13:15 NKJV ; Luke 6:43-45; John 15:5; Dan.8:11-12)
It is Jesus Christ, who had taken from him, the offerings of his priesthood
Unlike the perpetual sacrifice of Jesus Christ, established for all time;
the sacrifices of the anointed priests, CAN be halted... AND clearly ARE.


The reasoning you give in your question, asserts that the constant feature cannot be any sacrifice other than that of Christ, because 
"such sacrifices were removed in the old covenant"..... ", "and already made ONCE and for all time, by the High Priest?"
Is that true? 
Are the regular sacrifices of God's anointed priesthood, non-existent since the old covenant ended?
Did the one, perfect sacrifice of Jesus, make all priestly sacrifices of the new, spiritual temple, unnecessary?
We were told that the original tabernacle is a perfect pattern of the heavenly priesthood to come (Heb.8:5).
Is that pattern wrong when it comes to the sacrifices that the original priesthood had to offer, day and night..."daily"? 
(Ex.29:39; Lev.6:20;  1Chron.9:33; 16:40; 23:30;  2Chron.2:4; 13:11; Ezra 3:3; Rev.7:15; Dan.8:26,19)


Let's take a look at what is expected of the priests of God's spiritual Temple.

Jesus assigned his slaves, talents/bags of gold 
(John 12:49; 20:21; Ps.12:6 NIV ; Matt.25:14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,24,25,26,27,28,29,30). 
The slave that did not make good use of that 'talent/gold'...
      (Col.3:24;  2Tim.4:2;  1Cor.9:16), 
...was judged as unfaithful.
What 'gold' did Jesus give his anointed slaves, to make good use of? 
Truths of God... and the priests are required to teach it.
Mal.2:7; Matt.28:19,20

Heb.13:15 reads;
"15 Therefore by Him let US CONTINUALLY offer the SACRIFICE of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name."
(1Pet.2:9; Isa.43:21,10)
Rev.4: "8 Day and night they NEVER STOP, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God, the Almighty, who was, who is, and who is to come."
---Yes, that sacrifice of praise IS, a continual, constant feature....
       even for the new Temple priesthood... a fulfillment of the previous pattern (Heb.8:5; 9:24)

So, is there any other sacrifice, other than the life of Christ? 
According to Heb.13:15, is it required continually?

Isa.43:21 reads;
"This PEOPLE, I have formed for Myself;
That they shall declare My praise."
Isa.43:10a "‘You are my witnesses,’ declares the Lord,
    ‘and my servant whom I have CHOSEN"

Who are the people formed and chosen by God (Lev.20:26), and assigned to declare His praise
     (the fruit of lips -Heb.13:15)
1Pet.2:
"9 But you are a CHOSEN generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special PEOPLE
that YOU may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness, into His marvelous light".

So, when you assume that the death of Christ is the only sacrifice...
        (there are many kinds of spiritual sacrifices still required and 
         incumbent upon the anointed priests of God's spiritual temple), 
...and you assume that God's anointed priests are not required to be actively, constantly serving, as priests and kings...
then consider Rev.5:10 reads;
"And have made us kings and priests to serve our God;
And we shall reign on the earth.”
[ also Rev.22:3 NIV ;  1Pet.2:5]
Many, many scriptures, speak to the urgency and endurance needed, 
of preaching the truth to the praise of God (Matt.5:16;  1Pet.2:12).
"Drawing back" from performing that constant feature of God's abode, is condemned in a great many verses as well 
(2Cor.5:20;  2Pet.3:9; Heb.10:36,38-39;  1Tim.4:16;  1Cor.9:16).

When the "disgusting thing"/'abomination"... DESOLATES and tramples the Holy Place,
the priests that are assigned to serve there, can NO LONGER perform their duties of preaching the unchanging truth, that is sourced in Christ 
(John 15:4,5; Matt.10:27; John 16:13,14; 15:16; 7:18; Matt.24:35; Luke 21:15).

John 15:16; Heb.13:15; Dan.8:11,12; 12:11


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Wednesday, December 25, 2013

A Second System to End

A comment which was left:

The correct translation of Matt.24:15 is 'when you see the abomination of destruction standing on holy ground ---'

The 'abomination of destruction' is the Roman army surrounding Jerusalem in the year 67. Then the army was standing on 'holy ground,' ready to attack the city.

But this attack did not materialize, and the Roman army withdrew staying away exactly for as many days as Jesus had predicted. But when it returned three years later, in the year 70, not only were all of Jerusalem destroyed. More than one million Jews were slaughtered in Jerusalem alone and one hundred and ten thousand were taken to Rome as slaves. Also some of the towns that Jesus had condemned, were destroyed by the Roman army at that time. But those few who had heard Jesus' warning and heeded them, fled to the mountains. And therefore all of Jesus apostles saved their lives.

Do not mix this incident with Jerusalem being trampled by those of the peoples 'until the day, period, of the peoples are over.' This did not happen until the six-day war in 1967. Only then did Jerusalem come under Jewish rule.

I hope this was clarifying.

With best regards from
Arne Jordly
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My reply:

You are viewing things physically (1 Corinthians 2:10,13,14). Literal, physical, geographical Jerusalem today, is insignificant (Acts 13:46; Rom.9:25; Matthew.21:43; 23:37,38; Romans 11:7,8,10,17,19,20,21,22; John 4:20,21,23).
The "Gentile/nations times" are still with us, dominating the "Israel of God" New Creation (Romans 9:6; Romans 2:28,29; Gal.6:15,16; Dan.8:10,13). The "Lord's people" are equated with "the starry host of the heavens". The Israel of God are the "stars of heaven" being trampled and thrown down....the ones mentioned at Dan.8:10 (Dan.12:3; Phil.2:15; Dan.8:12; Rev.12:4; 11:2; Matt.5:13). Revelation was written AFTER the fall of Jerusalem. This fact clarifies the reality of a further fulfillment 
(Rev.13:7,10; Luke 21:24; Rev.12:4; Dan.8:10-11,12-13,14,17;  2Cor.15:24-25,26; Dan.7:21,25-26,27). 
These "stars" being thrown down and trampled then, are not the Jewish citizens of literal physical Israel (Gal.4:24,25), but are the SPIRITUAL descendants of Abraham 
(Gen.26:4; Gal.3:28,29; Rom.2:28,29; Gal.4:26,28; Phil.2:15).
http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-is-jew-what-is-gentile-answers-to.html
The "holy ground" is the Temple; and is made up of the Chosen priesthood (1Cor.3:16; 6:19,20; Rev.5:9,10;  1Pet.2:5,9; 1:15,16) under the New Covenant.

If you are able to see Christ's warning as extending to the conclusion of the New Covenant (rather than only applying to the conclusion of the Old -Matt.24:3),
and that the removal of the physical temple of apostasy (John 2:19; Matt.24:1,2), was only a shadow of the removal of a spiritual temple of apostasy (1Pet.2:5; Luke 17:1;  1Cor.11:19;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13; Matt.18:6; Rev.8:8) at the conclusion of the New Covenant (Matt.13:39,40,41,42,43; Dan.12:3; Isa.60:1; Dan.7:18; 2:44);
then you will perceive it's present prophetic application to the final harvest of members of Jerusalem "above" (Gal.4:26) and her symbolic son (Rev.12:2,5; 2:26,27).

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Just as the first show of dominating THREAT by the Roman Gentiles did not end in death, so too the prophetic fulfillment (Rev.9:5,6,10; 13:7). Just as the return of the Roman Beast did result in death, so too it's prophetic symbolic fulfillment (Rev.11:7; 13:15; 6:9,10,11; 20:4).
Yet this final death is required, and is in obedience to Christ's warning directive 
(Mark 8:35; Hebrews 13:13; Romans 6:3)
It took 3 1/2 years for the original return.
The prophetic one takes "3 1/2 times" (Dan.12:7; Rev. 12:14).
The book of Revelation was written after the fall of literal Jerusalem.
(This gives Rev.11:2; 12:14  fulfillment beyond the fall of Jerusalem's temple in 70 CE)
If you look at 2Thessalonians 2:4 you will see that the Man of Lawlessness fulfills your description of "the abomination of destruction standing on holy ground". Yet this Gentile power "standing" "where is does not belong" (Mark 13:14), is not done away with (Gentile times ending) until Jesus returns (2Thess.2:8).


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A note to readers;
I have received distressing news about my medical condition. I am not sure yet, how I will choose to handle it. I am seeking further medical advice. My condition has caused a recent drop in posts, but I am determined to keep working to offer spiritual provisions as best as I am able. Please pray for my continuing ability to do God's will, as I also pray for you.
Love in Christ,
Pearl

Tuesday, September 7, 2021

Should JW Elders, Replace God's Anointed Priests?

QUESTION RECEIVED:
Is there some scriptural basis for the JW elder arrangement given the accounts at Exodus 18:17-27 and Numbers 11:16-17?" (TO READ: LINK)

MY REPLY:
Just as brother-in-law marriage no longer applies under Christ,
No... the appointing of anyone to replace the anointed body members of Jesus Christ, is not permissible. 
Please consider:
Heb.8: "5 They (the original priesthood) serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: ‘See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.’ 6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:
‘The days are coming, declares the Lord,
    when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
    and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
    I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
    to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
    and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord."
---
As you can see, the spiritual heavenly temple made of living stones 
(Eph.2:6; Heb.12:23; 8:5;  1Pet.2:5) 
is NOT patterned after the helpers of Moses.
It was patterned after the original tent of God and the priests that served in that tabernacle.

If you read Num.3:10; 18:7;  2Chron.23:6,7 you will see that the original pattern did not allow anyone to enter the tabernacle, or serve in capacity of priest, unless they were of the chosen, anointed, and consecrated priesthood.
As was the case with Moses; Helpers are not needed to assist one man to lead God's people today.

Since Christ, there is an anointed priesthood, 
chosen by God Himself to perform the duties of that Temple 
(Rev.1:5,6; 5:9,10; Mal.2:7;  1Cor.6:1-3).
If you do not understand the difference between the spiritual Jew and the spiritual Gentile,
you will not be able to "catch sight" of the "disgusting thing, standing in the holy place"/"abomination of desolation" 
(Matt.24:15; Mark 13:14>"standing where it does not belong"). 

If you do not recognize the existence and identity of the "abomination of desolation"/"disgusting thing in the holy place";... 
How will you be in a position, to flee from it??? (Dan.11:31; Matt.24:15,16; Rev.18:4; Jer.51:6; 48:6)

The "abomination" that desolates God's anointed priesthood, is an Idol... 
the image of the Beast as having God's spirit (Rev.13:11,15,7,8)... an image given by the false prophet.

 Rev.13:11;  2Cor.11:13,14,15)

When we slave for an Image and obey its every command; that is worship that belongs to God alone. Those who accept a position in which they are obeyed without question, are making themselves, God.

You are also in danger of not recognizing the "man of lawlessness", when he takes his seat, enthroned over God's Temple and its priesthood (2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16;  1Pet.2:5,9).
None should take headship over the Bride members of Christ, except Jesus Christ 
(Eph.5:23,25,30,31,32;  1Cor.6:17; John 17:21,22,23; Col.1:18).

 (2Thess.2:4)

You will not discern either of these blasphemous realities, unless you allow all of God's word to guide you, and you continue learning it.
If you search out or subscribe to, erroneous justifications for breaking God's statutes,
you are in danger of believing the Lie (2Thess.2:8-12). 
Rev.13:11,15

Thursday, June 21, 2012

Abomination of Desolation


QUESTION:
I am interested in what anyone thinks the "abomination that causes desolation" is?

ANSWER:
Hello,
The "abomination" is the same as the "disgusting thing" standing in a holy place, which IS an "abomination" to God.
This "disgusting thing" also "causes" spiritual "desolation" to the "holy ones"/"holy place"/"holy city"...or, "tramples" them "underfoot" 
[Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31,36--(2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16); Dan.12:7,11; Rev.11:1,2].
Hopefully you can see from these scriptures, that the "abomination" enters the temple sanctuary/holy place (in among the "chosen" ones/anointed) and takes their power away from them/"desolates" (silences/disfellowships/makes impotent as priests).

What is this desolating power? It is identified there at Rev.11:1,2. The "Gentiles". The Bible defines these as spiritual non-"Jews".
"Jews" are those who have been chosen/anointed (see Rom.2:29). They are the "Temple"/"holy place" (1Cor.3:16).
Any not anointed, are spiritual "Gentiles".
So...the "Gentiles" enter in among the "Chosen" ...overcoming them and "throwing them out". This is confirmed at Ezek.44:6,7,8,9;  2Chron.13:9; etc.
Only the few "rebellious" "Jews" at the top (Stewards of the "Temple") who "leave the covenant" (Dan.11:32,33), bring the Gentiles into the "Temple". These few "Jews" who rule over the Gentiles and lower anointed Priests, are immune to this initial "desolating".
In fact, the ruling anointed priests, are the cause of it (Ezek.44:6,7). They have brought the "disgusting thing" into the "holy place" ...to rule over, subdue, "trample underfoot", and "throw out" their fellow priests.
The elders are the constituents of the collective "man of lawlessness" (see 2Thess.2:3,4).
The spiritual Jews / unfaithful anointed leaders, are using the power of the Gentiles (not anointed) to enforce their dominance over their fellow anointed slaves (Matt.24:49).
But, only for a time. Soon those Gentiles who take over the "Temple", will also turn on the ruling corrupt over-Priests/Harlot (Lam.1:10; Rev.18:14; 17:16), and give her the same treatment that she sanctioned for her fellows (Rev.18:6).

Can you see how this has happened today? 
The not-anointed "Gentile" elders are throwing out the anointed who do not worship the "Image" of the Organization (as "spirit directed" Rev.13:15). These "Gentiles", "stand"/rule over the "Temple"/anointed.
That Organization is made up of "Gentile" elders, with a few unfaithful anointed at the top (Harlots). This merciless treatment by the Organization against Christ's brothers ("causing desolation"), is the "Wild Beast" of Rev.13, turning on the "two witnesses" Rev.11:7;
as well as the "Locust/Scorpions" under the "fallen star"/"Wormwood",
"stinging" the "unsealed men" (not yet sealed) in Rev.9:1-10 (Rev.8:10,11).

This is all fulfilled in the wicked steward (Matt.24:48,49,50,51)/Governing Body/Harlot/Wormwood,
who rules over the "Gentile" elders/Wild Beast/Locust-scorpions/abomination/disgusting thing...with all the resulting oppression and expulsion ("desolation"), of the faithful anointed (John 16:2)/Holy Place/Holy City/Temple.
It is of vital import, that we now consider Matt.24:15,16 !

If you have any other questions at all, I hope you'll visit me, at http://www.blogger.com/profile/13281232149590681155
Those wishing to contact me, can do so, at pearl144000@gmail.com
All the best,
Pearl

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Sunday, April 24, 2016

Christ's Return -- When?

A letter I received:
"I have looked at a bit at your blogs and they are interesting. I suppose I feel I understand where I am with what I believe. I just was interested in what you may have been about. I personally don't believe that Jesus' presence has begun. I don't think that Satan has been thrown down yet.
 I believe jws have carried the truth to a point, but the apostasy is lurking in the house of jehovah -who is the man of lawlessness.
 I believe that if the ones that know the real truth, can be there to guide the confused innocent jws, and help to help explain what has happened, when the organization finally comes crashing down. The letter u wrote to your old congregation was really nice by the way. I thought I'd explain what I believe so you can understand me better.
Thanks for reading my letter."

My Reply:
Hello again,
Sorry for the delay in replying. I am caring for an elderly parent, and don't get to do all I wish.
I was pleased to receive your last letter, expressing your perspectives, but especially glad to read what you wrote in your first letter, about searching for the real truth of the Bible. It is with scripture, that I hope to give you more information about the presence of Christ, and how it relates to the presence of the Man of Lawlessness, whom you seem to believe is now present.

I hope you will take your time with this response. There is a lot contained in it. It will be critical that you read the scriptures as you come to them. I truly hope that you get some benefit from all my effort. If you also give effort to reading it, I think you will enjoy the final result. Please let me know how you do with the information.

In my last letter, I did not tell you when I believe Christ returns. I only mentioned that he promised to be with his Temple priests "all the days until the end". But he also promised that when "two or more" gather for the purpose of Christ, he would be with them.
These two beliefs are clearly established in Christ's recorded words (Matt.28:20; 18:20).

Yet as I stated in the last letter, Jesus also spoke of another time that he would "arrive" and be "present".
He said,
"Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves (Leaves), you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door." (Matt.24:32-33)

Even though we may not be able to know the day and hour, we are able to recognize when Christ is at the door, when we "see all these things".... just as when we can know when Summer is near.
What are "all these things" that those awake and sober will be able to discern / recognize.
One of those signs is mentioned at Matt.24:15...
“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place [let the reader use discernment" (perception) Matt.13:16].
In the same conversation when Jesus tells us how to recognize his return, and tells us that discernment is needed to recognize that "season" (times-seasons);
He also says that it is time to use our discernment, to recognize the "the abomination of desolation" standing "in the Holy Place". That is one of the signs that Jesus is near, "right at the door" (Rev.3:20; Luke 12:37).

Now in your letter, you said;
"but the apostasy is lurking in the house of jehovah -who is the man of lawlessness".

Does that mean that you believe that the Man of Lawlessness is present, now?
Because if you do, I wonder if you discern that the Man of Lawlessness, IS "the abomination of desolation", standing in the Holy Place. Please see this from scripture...
2Thess.2:4 describes the Man of Lawlessness as "set up"/stands/takes his seat, as God over the Temple of God.
Do you know that the Temple of God, IS the Holy Place?
Do you know that to "be seated" (on a throne)/"set up"/"stand", is to rule over? (Luke 22:69; Matt.28:18; Eph.1:22)
Other prophecies about this same time of the end, tell us that Gentiles are trampling the Holy Place (Rev.11:2).
These scriptures which contain various parables, are talking about the same thing.

If we go to the prophet Daniel, we see that he too, talked about the man of lawlessness.
What he said, can help us to see when Christ is present.

First, to see that Daniel is talking about the man of lawlessness, it is good to compare 2Thess.2:4, to Dan.11:36-37 and Dan.8:11,24...

"Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done. 37"He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all." (Dan.11:36-37)

"It even magnified itself to be equal with the Commander of the host; and it removed the regular sacrifice from Him, and the place of His sanctuary (Temple) was thrown down." (Dan.8:11)
"He will become very strong, but not by his own power (Rev.13:14-15; 19:20). He will cause astounding devastation ("desolation") and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy those who are mighty, the holy people".

"He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God (divinity) or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God/divine. (2Thess.2:4)

Mark called the Man of Lawlessness, a "disgusting thing standing where it does not belong" (Mark 13:14).
It does not belong to Gentiles/nations (Rev.11:2), to be in the midst of God's Temple (2Chron.23:6; Num.3:10). 
Even worse, to rule over it and trample it down.
Yet we see in the time of the end, God's Temple priesthood is trespassed and taken over, by the Gentiles... the Man of Lawlessness.
It is important to know what God's Temple is today, or else, how will we recognize when it is being trampled?
1Cor.3:16 shows that God's Temple, is the hearts of his anointed and faithful priests...
"you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives within you?" (1Cor.3:16)
 "Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts  as a pledge of what is to come." (2Cor.1:21-22)

So when we are looking for the man of lawlessness setting himself over God's Temple,
we should be looking for that one, setting himself up over the anointed priests belonging to God's Temple (1Pet.2:5). We would need to recognize when the under-priests of Christ, accept a foreign domination in their heart (2Cor.11:3-4;  1Tim.4:1; Luke 21:24; Col.2:8).
I hope you can see, that God's Temple is not the "Watchtower" corporation,
but God's Temple are the anointed that are under those NOT anointed overseers/elders, of the "Watchtower".

Unless they are also anointed, they are Gentiles... not spiritual "Jews" (Rom.2:28-29; Rev.2:9) ("Jew" / "Gentile")
Those who are elders in each congregation, are set up over God's anointed, and have the power to disfellowship them if they refuse to be submissive to them.

What else does Daniel tell us, about when the Man of Lawlessness rises above the Holy Ones? (Dan.7:25; 8:24; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8) 
It tells us what Jesus does about it.
When Jesus said that he would be with his anointed brothers "all the days until the end"...
what would he be doing for them?
See what job Jesus has over those chosen by God...
"I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. During my time here, I protected them by the power of the name you gave me. I guarded them so that not one was lost" (John 17:6,12)
"Of those whom You have given Me I lost not one." (John 18:9) 
 (Heb.2:12-13; John 6:39; Isa.8:18) (John 17:2; 10:29,28) (Luke 21:20,24,22; Rev.13:7,10; Isa.49:24-25; Mal.4:2; Isa.60:1; Rev.2:28; 22:16)

Can you see that Jesus works to educate and protect God's children/people? 
God's sons/people, are His priests/Temple (1Pet.2:9-10,5; Gal.3:26,27,29; Ps.82:6; John 10:34-35; 1:14,12-13).

As High Priest, Jesus oversees the welfare of God's priesthood, and protects it from spiritual dangers.
So what will he do to defend them, when they are being trampled by the man of lawlessness? What will he do when he... "the Commander of the Lord's army" ( the "Prince of princes"), is being robbed of his sanctuary and it's sacrifices (Dan.8:11,25)? 
Dan.8:25 says that the Man of Lawlessness will be destroyed/broken,... "but not by human power".
2Thess.2:8 tells us what power Jesus will use to destroy the Man of Lawlessness...
"And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming."
We learn a lot from that verse.
What is the "breath" of Jesus mouth? We are told, at John 20:22... "Jesus breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit.' ".
Holy spirit is "not.. human power".
(Rev.19:15; Eph.6:17; Heb.4:12; Zech.4:6)
Holy spirit and the Word of God, 
will expose, reveal, and destroy the man of lawlessness. When?
"by the splendor of his coming" (2Thess.2:8).
When we see the Man of Lawlessness being identified and revealed /uncovered/exposed...
When the Chosen ones are then able to recognize/discern that one, standing over them (Mark 13:14),
...then we know that Christ is near.... "even at the door".
(Rev.3:20; Luke 12:37) He arrives to each heart, who hears him knocking (Rev.2:7; Isa.29:18; Rev.22:10,14; Eph.5:14), and lets him in. He promises, to then "feed" them 
(John 6:27,33,40,57; 14:21;  2Pet.1:19; Matt.25:10).

How will Christ use God's spirit of truth through his mouth, to reveal the man of lawlessness to God's anointed?
He will do it through those who serve him at that time 
(Mal.3:1; Matt.10:40,20; Luke 21:15; Rev.22:16,6)...
See Zech.4:6,14; Rev.11:3-5;  1Cor.1:27 
("World-wide" gospel - How?)

But Daniel also tell us about how the protector and guardian of the Holy Ones, defends his Temple.
See Dan.12:1...
"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your peoplewill arise. (new-name)(Who-chief-princes?)
There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people – everyone whose name is found written in the book – will be delivered."
"Delivered" from what? Delivered from the trampling domination of the Man of Lawlessness.
How? By the holy spirit of Jesus mouth, exposing and revealing who the anointed are really enslaved to (Rom.6:16;  1Cor.7:23; Col.3:24).
When the anointed realize/recognize/discern, that the Man of Lawlessness (the abomination), 
"does not belong" standing over them- (the Holy Place) (Mark 13:14) (disgusting-thing
they will "discern" that it is "the season" 
to get out, and "flee to the mountains" 
(Matt.24:15-16; Eze.36:8; Isa.56:7; 25:6; 2:2; Matt.22:2; Rev.19:9).
(is-leaving-city-enough?)

Why then does it say that the protection the Great Prince brings, will result in a time of "unprecedented distress"?
We recognize that period as the Great Tribulation, because it has the same description as Dan.12:1, "a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then". (See Matt.24:21; Joel 2:2) (Grt-Trib.-why?) (who F.P. gives breath?)

First of all, the Gentiles/Man of Lawlessness, can only trample the temple, if it's priests are in a weakened condition (Dan.7:25; Matt.5:13; Isa.51:23; Ec.10:7; Prov.19:10) (2Cor.11:4,13,20; Rev.2:20,16) (Trampled-how?). 
Those being trampled, have lost the strength of their covenant of salt with God... to be kings (2Chron.13:5). As Jesus said at John 18:37, the chosen are to use their royal authority and power just as Jesus did, and take their stand for truth, to the death (Rev.6:9-10,11; Mark 8:35). If they lost the strength of that conviction and allow themselves to be mislead and enslaved into idolatry; then they lose their connection to Christ without whom, they can do nothing (John 15:5) to resist Satan's Great Tribulation.

When an "abomination" / "disgusting thing" enters God's weakened Temple priesthood (Rev.3:2), the Temple becomes unclean (Ps.79:1; 74:3; Eze.44:6-7,8-9). When Jesus returns, his Temple must be cleansed, before it is fit to resume it's service to God.
Mal.3:1-2,3 tells us about that...

" 1 I will send my messenger (Greek: "angel"), who will prepare the way before me (Zech.4:9; Rev.22:6,16). Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire (Zech.4:7-9), will come,’ says the Lord Almighty.
2 But who can endure the day of his (the messenger's) coming? Who can stand when he appears? (Luke 21:36) For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap. 3 He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the priests and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness." (Mal.4:1; Rev.11:3,5; Jer.5:14)
Do you see the Chosen ones, subverted under the man of lawlessness, being disciplined by the coming and appearance of Christ's messenger? (John 13:20; Rev.22:6,16) (covenant-angel)
Do you see some of his "Temple" stones (1Pet.2:5) being "brought back to it's rightful condition" (Dan.8:13-14)... evidenced by repentant anointed ones once again working for the truth of Christ.... serving in his spiritual Temple (Rev.7:15-17,14; Heb.13:15), and now liberated from their previous chains? (Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24)

Jesus will need to discipline his priests at his return, for apathetically accepting a head over them (Rev.3:16), other than he 
(Eph.5:23;  2Cor.11:2-4,20; Rev.2:20; Zech.8:17).
They will have to be "refined" by fire (Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10;  1Pet.4:1; Eze.16:39; Rev.3:17-18; Hosea 12:6-8).
As Jesus says at Rev.3:19 ...
"Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent."
The discipline Christ brings when he returns, is not easy to perceive, nor pleasant to accept (Heb.12:5-13).
In fact, Christ must discipline them with "a rod of iron" 
(Micah 6:9; Prov.23:13-14; Rev.2:27; Hosea 6:5; Jer.23:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5;  2Pet.3:7,10).
"Iron" is the precise identity that is trampling them, in the time of the end (Dan.2:40,34,44).
("Iron" and "Clay")
("Iron and Clay" 2)
("Molded Clay")
God allows the very Idol they are serving, to discipline, beat, and trample them. (trample-how-does-it-happen?)
That is, the Great Tribulation 
(Isa.5:5-6; Rev.11:6; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10-11; 6:11-13 (Rev.11:13); Dan.12:6-7)
The way that God and Christ discipline and refine the repentant, is to allow the Master they have chosen, to mistreat them. Then the remnant, will return to their husbandly owner 
(Jer.2:2-5,11-14,17,26; Hosea 13:6; 2:7-9,16-17,19-20; Isa.26:16-21; 40:2-3; Dan.12:7; Rev.6:11; Ps.66:12; Luke 12:37; Isa.25:6; John 16:13,8).
So you see,
if you recognize a current presence of the man of lawlessness, debasing, trampling, and raising themselves up over God's Temple priesthood; 
and you also see repentant anointed priests waking up, taking their rightful stand, and being willing to "die" to uphold the truth that exposes the man of lawlessness (Mark 8:35; Rev.12:10-11; 6:9-11; John 16:2; Rev.13:15; 11:7) (seeks-to-save-lose)...
then I hope you also see the connection to when Jesus returns (2Thess.2:8).

I don't know what you think Christ's return will look like (Luke 17:20-21;  1Cor.2:9-10,12-14)...
but the scriptures tell us that "he is coming on the clouds of heaven" and "all the angels with him".
That is another lesson, but the clouds of heaven who have been given the spirit of Christ's mouth, (to reveal the man of lawlessness), are partly, his "two witnesses" (Luke 21:27; Matt.5:19; Heb.12:1; Rev.11:3; Matt.16:27;  1Thess.3:13; Jude 1:14-15; Dan.7:22). 
The "angels"/messengers and "holy ones" Jesus arrives upon, are those to inherit the kingdom. (see previous scriptures)

(your-king-comes-to-you-humble (2Cor.12:9; Rom.8:17; John 1:14;  1Pet.4:13)("Glory")
(Matt.24:43-44; 25:13; Luke 21:36). 
(search?q=clouds+of+heaven)
I hope I have not burdened you too much with all this information, but really, it was made much shorter.
I did not want to reply in a shoddy way, but give you enough scriptures, so that you could see more of the Bible's prophecies about Christ's return.
If you have anymore questions about any of this, you can write me again, or else do a search at the Blog.
(for example; search, "trample", "great tribulation", "marriage feast", clouds of heaven", etc.)
Many of the things I bring up in this letter, are explained better, there.

About when Satan was thrown down, and should we stay inside the apostate empire for the reason that we are there to help others when the collapse comes...
these are other subjects.
God bless you in your search for truth, and the life that results.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
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