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Sunday, May 7, 2023

How does the Wicked Steward beat his Fellow Slaves?

Luke 12: "45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk."

Prov.19: "29 Penalties are prepared for mockers,
    and beatings for the backs of fools."

From these two previously cited verses, we see that the essence of the steward's beatings, is to condemn and punish as fools, those who are genuine servants of Christ.

-- What did Jesus have to say, about publicly condemning his own servants, as fools?
(I am going to add the deeper meanings of the Greek)

Matt.5: "22 But I tell you, everyone who is angry with his brother or sister[without real cause] will be subject to judgment. Whoever insults[demeans/publicly humiliates] his brother or sister [without real cause] will be subject to the court. Whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to Gehenna [lake of fire/second death].

By our being thrown out of the congregation, condemned as spiritual fools, and slandered as servants of Satan;
we are beaten by the wicked steward 
(John 16:2; Isa.57:1-2; 66:5-6; Rev.11:3,7-9; Isa.34:3).

As we know from Rev.20:10; the false prophet and her beast, ARE thrown into the Lake of Fire... just as Matt.5:22 WEB states.
Satan is thrown there to suffer "day and night" also (Rev.20:10), because he also  slanders God's servants, "day and night" (Rev.12:10).

Jesus said that how we judge, we will be judged (Matt.7:2; Rev.18:6).

The wicked steward condemns the faithful as fools.
  Prov.10:18 judges that slanderer, as a fool...
"The one who conceals hatred has lying lips,
and whoever spreads slander is a fool."

1John 3: "14 We know that we have passed from death to life because we love our brothers and sisters. The one who does not love remains in death. 15 Everyone who hates his brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him."
(Matt.5:21-22)
Rev.3: "1 “Write to the messenger of the church in Sardis: Thus says the one who has the seven spirits of God and the seven stars: I know your works; you have a reputation for being alive, but you are dead."

Friday, August 27, 2021

Cut Down and Thrown into the Fire

QUESTION RECEIVED:
(I have inserted the scriptures)
Matthew 7:19 says "Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." When does this happen?  Perhaps the elephant in the room here is the Watchtower organization.  It claims to be solely producing fine fruits.  There's no doubt that it has stated "truths" that they have walked back on... which would not be considered "fruit that remains." 
(John 15:16; Matt.24:35; James 1:17; Rom.3:4; John 1:14; 17:22,8; Matt.10:20; John 7:16-18; 8:47) 
However, they still produce fruit and have not been "cut down and thrown into the fire."  What does this speak to the WT's validity as a tree producing fruit?"

MY REPLY:
Please read the scriptures as you come to them. 

Remembering that these trees and fruit are symbolic;
Their being "cut down" and "thrown into the fire", is also symbolic.

Matt.7:19; John 15:6

The Bible tells us what this punishment means, how it happens, and even when.
If we understand these symbols of being "cut down and consigned to fire", 
we become equipped to discern, if and when, that judgment is taking place.

Mercy and patience can first be shown: Luke 13:6-7,8-9
The cutting down and being thrown into the fire can be a healing discipline, 
to those humble enough to respond (Heb.12:11)
2Kings 17:13; Hosea 6:5,1; Zech.13:9; Eze.33:10-11
... to God's discipline, and repent:
Jer.6:6; Nahum 3:15; Joel 2:1-2,25; Rev.9:1-4,18; Zech.13:9; Rev.9:18,20
The unsealed "third", repent -Zech.13:9; Rev.9:18 ...proven by their martyrdom for truth 
(Rev.9:18; 6:9,11; Mark 8:35; Rev.12:10-11; 11:7; Rom.6:5), 
by which they become sealed/gain their soul.

Being "cut down", is done, through the testimony of God's prophets (Hosea 6:5). 
That loss of standing in God's favor, 
is a verbal, public exposure that contains God's condemnation from scripture and spirit.
  Being "thrown into the fire", is similar (Jer.23:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5; 20:9; Matt.10:20). 
God's condemnation can come from prophets on earth, 
even while that condemnation comes "from heaven", 
because that is where the sealed and faithfully active anointed, reside in spirit 
(Rev.3:21; Eph.2:6; Col.3:1-2; Rom.8:9).

So, the unfaithful trees that bear rotten fruit, are "cut down and thrown into the fire",
by their receiving divine condemnation (Ps.80:16)... 
...sent through God's prophets who expose and condemn 
(Eph.5:11; 2Thess.2:8)(John 20:22; Zech.4:6,11,14; Rev.11:3-4), 
...by means of scripture (God's word of fire -Jer.23:29; 5:14; Rev.11:3-5). 

If you read Rev.19:20; 20:10, you may note that the false prophet (rotten tree) and its Gentile beast organization, are "still alive" when being thrown into the Lake of Fire. This reveals that these entities can still be in existence to onlookers, even while receiving the condemning fire/judgment of God's Word, through God's prophets... which rebuke when unheeded, consigns them to spiritual death (Ps.80:16; Jer.26:4-6).
(Jer.5:14; Rev.11:5; 3:2,1; 2:21,20-21).


I have done my best to simplify and condense an answer for you,
but as you learn more of the whole picture and examine all the prophecies regarding this era 
(as well as the Bible's interpretation of those prophecies and symbols);
you will see the reality of all these circumstances in greater and clearer detail.
The more you learn, 
the more the whole picture of prophecy will fit harmoniously together, and make sense, 
and the clearer it will become in your perception.

I hope this reply helps.
Love in Christ,
Pearl

Tuesday, May 4, 2021

Source of Wisdom / Pillars ...for the Congregation of God [] Victor Rewards

COMMENTS and QUESTIONS that I WAS SENT:

The True anointed have always taught with the 4 legs, holding up the truth.  
What are they? You should know, they were taught by Russell, Rutherford, McMillan and the other old school anointed before 2010. Do you know what the four legs of the Truth consist of? 
What happens to the organization of Jehovah's witnesses,?  
Why? 
I have been eating in the east gate with an anointed one Ezek 44:3 for 10 years, 8-10hurs weekly,  ever since we were killed out of the congregation in 2012. I appreciated a lot of what you are teaching. If you truly are anointed you should have no problem getting at least three of the four legs supporting the Truth, since they were taught to all the anointed by Holy Spirit.
Look forward to hearing back when you can.

MY REPLY:

1Tim.3 reads; 
"15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the congregation of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth."

The Bible itself defines these "pillars" of support.
It also defines the "foundation".

Jesus spoke of such pillars of wisdom...
 "12 The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God." (Rev.3)

How do such pillars support truth?
"Wisdom has built her house;
she has set up its seven pillars." (Prov.9:1)

The house of Wisdom ("the congregation of the living God"), has seven pillars. 
They are given their wisdom from Christ, when he blesses those victorious ones with 
the tree of life (Rev.2:7), 
the morning star (Rev.2:28), 
and the hidden manna (Rev.2:17). 
Those symbols represent wisdom from Christ, in the form of 
fine fruit (Luke 6:43,45; John 12:49-50; 6:63), 
spiritual light (Rev.22:16; Mal.4:2; John 8:12), 
and bread from heaven (John 6:35,49-50,57-58) 
     that is hidden (John 14:21,6; 1:18; Luke 10:22; Matt.13:11,16-17,34-35).

Those seven pillars are mentioned by Jesus, at 
Rev.1:12,20; Matt.5:15; Rev.3:1; 4:5; 5:6;  1Cor.14:32; 4:1; Heb.1:1; Rev.22:6; Eph.3:5,2-3,4-5. 
Each of those messengers of wisdom, are sent out to his congregations. 
They are the ones made capable of interpreting prophecy (Rev.13:18; 17:9).

As regards the "foundation" of the truth and divine understanding,
again those seven are mentioned, along with the 12 apostles (Eph.2:20-21).
(Rev.21:14)

I am a student and servant of Christ and the Word of God,
not of Russell, Rutherford, or McMillan... though I must say, I was a JW from 1975-2010 and I never heard of the doctrine you refer to, which you claim they taught others.

The only four "legs" mentioned by my teacher, are the 4 living creatures/watchmen over God's people (Isa.62:6; Rev.4:8). 
They are charged with preventing God's nation from being ambushed, taken captive, and conquered. 
They do this in a spiritual capacity (Col.2:8; Rev.13:7,10), by always proclaiming to God's people, the supremacy of God (Rev.4:8). 
Those reminders prevent apathy, selfish greed, lust for power and dominance, and idolatry... 
which is at the root of going astray.

Perhaps you are referring to 1 John5:6-9? (spirit, blood, water, truth)? 
Hard for me to say, since your claim that the actual anointing involves some kind of disclosure regarding these, is false. 
It is true that spirit makes contact with us during the anointing, filling our heart with the token of the love that is to come. 
It is also true that the blood of Christ and his faithful, is essential for salvation. 
We are washed by Christ with the water of God's word (Eph.5:25-26) which sanctifies us (John 17:17), 
and of course, that living water is the truth (John 4:10,14,24).


Please tell the anointed that you are associated with,
to read 1Corinthians, chapter 12.
I hope they are able to see and discern, that in order to have the truth bestowed upon the anointed Body of Christ;
every part of the Body must be associated with the other genuine and faithful, anointed members.
Each member is given their own place... their own portion of spirit (1Cor.12:7-11), and their own gifts,
"for the building up of the Body" as a whole (Eph.4:11-12). 
One of those gifts, is the wisdom of understanding/revelation (1Cor.12:8; Eph.1:17).

As regards your other general questions about what happens to the organization and why; your continuing studies at the blog should fully address them. 
You can start with this: 
and this:
(the second link contains the scriptures of prophecy, pertaining to the WT)

To be concise, I could give you Rev.8:8 (Matt.21:21) and Rev.20:10,15. 
But that does not provide much good, if you have not yet learned 
who the beast and false prophet are, 
why names are recorded, omitted, or removed from the Lamb's scroll of life, 
what the lake of fire is (Jer.23:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5,3-4; Zech.4:11,14,6; Matt.10:20)... 
...and why the Lake of Fire is called the second death (Rev.20:14; 11:5; John 20:22-23).

If you have a particularBible question, please ask.
I suggest trying out the search box in the right side column of the Main Page.
If during your studies, a question arises, please contact me again.

Monday, July 9, 2018

Radio Program -- "Healing River"

In cooperation with the Six Screen Network, recordings of the audio program, "Healing River", are now available.

Here are links to past episodes, for those who would like to listen:


 Introduction (aired July 8, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-july-1-2018-debut-program-hos-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey

Episode One: What is Hades? (aired July 22, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-july-22-2018
       To follow along with scriptures and outline: 
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-sheole-hades.html

Episode Two: 1914 - Part One (aired Aug. 5, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-aug-5-2018-host-former-jw-pearl-doxsey-topic-1914

Episode Three: 1914 - Part Two (aired Aug. 19, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-aug-19-2018-host-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-dosey
       For info. about 1914, see many posts at this link: 
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=1914

(SEPT.2: No program due to illness)

Episode Four: End of the Thousand Years (aired Sept. 16, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-sept-16-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with the scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/07/program-sept16-2018.html

Episode Five: End of the Thousand Years continued (Aired Oct.14, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-oct-14-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with the scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/07/program-sept16-2018.html

Episode Six: Continuation of Rev.20:1-10 / Lake of Fire / Four Living Creatures (Aired Oct.28, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-oct-28-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/07/program-sept16-2018.html

Episode Seven: Sighing and Groaning (Aired Nov.11, 2018)
(This episode has audio interruptions of silence. I hope to repair)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-nov-11-2018
       To follow along with scriptures and outline: 
       https://pearl-falseteachers.blogspot.com

Episode Eight: Can the Watchtower, Crumble? (Aired Nov.25, 2018) 
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-nov25-2018-host-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/imagine-yourself-back-in-first-century.html

Episode Nine: What is the Mark of the Beast? (Aired Dec.9, 2018) 
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-dec-9-2018-host-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html

Episode Ten: Where an Genuine Spirit and Truth be found(Aired Dec.23, 2018)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-dec-23-2018-host-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/05/where-is-true-religion.html

Episode Eleven: Yhvh's Genuine Organization / Mountain (Aired Jan.6, 2019)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-jan-6-20i9-host-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
       To follow along with scriptures and outline:
       https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-genuine-mountain.html

Episode Twelve: Yhvh Name / Winepress - "Watchtower" error / outlook of future work (Aired Jan.20,2019)
https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-jan-20-2019-host-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
(Last Episode of Healing River with six Screens).

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Wednesday, July 4, 2018

Programs of Sept.16 and Oct.14, 2018 [] Revelation, ch.20, verses 1-10

This written post below, should be used as a backdrop to the
                    recorded program of Sept.16, located here:
                    https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-sept-16-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
                    recorded program of Oct.14, located here:
                    https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-oct-14-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
                    recorded program of Oct.28, located here:
                    https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/healing-river-oct-28-2018-anointed-former-jehovahs-witness-pearl-doxsey
This post below, contains the pop up scriptures that are cited during the audio programs,
so that you may follow along with ease.

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In previous programs, we covered the symbolic nature of the so-called, "thousand years" of Jesus' reign. We also covered, when Jesus reign of the symbolic "thousand years", began, and established that it started in the first century.
"Thousand Year" reign, When?
Matt.16:28; Luke 22:69; Ps.110:1;  1Cor.15:25
He is seated on a cloud, as if on a throne, because he is a king over other kings that comprise that cloud, as head of his bride congregation (Col.1:16-17,18).

We learned that Jesus' coming on the clouds, is defined for us in the Bible:
Coming on clouds:
Heb.12:1; John 1:51; Mark 12:25; Eph.2:6; Matt.10:40,14

Jesus' throne/reign is over his Bride congregation/Zion because he is "king of kings" (Rev.5:10; 19:16).
The scepter of his rule, is THROUGH Zion/cloud-witnesses of heaven
Ps.110:1-2;  2Cor.10:3-4,5; Eph.6:10-11,12-13;  2Cor.6:7; Rev.17:14; 12:10-11

The symbolic throne of Jesus regal power and authority, is glorious (Matt.25:31).
That glorious authority and power is not seen physically, because his glory is grace and truth (John 1:14), above which he is seated (Rev.22:1). 
Those who overcome the dark deceptions of Satan...
  (Eph.6:12;  1John 5:4; 2:14; Rom.13:12; Isa.54:17; Luke 21:15; Eph.5:8;  1Pet.2:9), 
...by upholding Gods' truths to the death (Mark 8:35; Rom.6:5; Rev.6:9-10,11; 12:9,11), 
...are also granted the same power and authority over grace and truth (Rev.3:21; Luke 10:19) as kings.   They extend the ruling scepter of Jesus' throne/grace and truth, through Zion, just as Ps.110:2 states... thereby assisting Jesus in conquering his enemies and making them a footstool for his feet (Ps.110:1-2;  1Cor.15:25) by the power God supplies (Eph.6:11,13; Rom.14:4; 16:20).

Since the symbolic reign of Jesus began in the first century...
   when and why, does his reign come to an end? How do the scriptures help us to recognize the end of Jesus' "thousand year" kingdom? What would cause the power and authority of Jesus and Zion, to conclude?
  Since Jesus reign is expressed through Zion (Ps.110:2; Rev.14:1;  2Cor.5:20; John 13:20);
    ...Could that reign continue, if the present members of Zion became conquered by a different power and authority? (2Cor.11:2-3,4-5,20,12-13,14-15;  1Tim.4:1)

What if the headship of Jesus over God's Temple (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Pet.2:5,9-10),
were taken away from Jesus, and his subjects, taken captive by his enemy?
Rev.13:7,10; Luke 21:24; Dan.8:11-12,24; 11:31,21;  2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16; Rev.11:2; Matt.5:13;  2Chron.13:5;  2Cor.11:20; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7; Rev.13:16; Deut.11:18

God's Word introduces us to the thousand years, in Rev.20, as well as the reasons why, the reign of Jesus, effectually ends.
Prophecy has much to say about the end of Jesus "thousand year" reign. As we assemble the pieces of prophecy that relate to that period and its' circumstances, the picture emerges.

We are going to examine Rev.20:1-10, where the Bible depicts for us, the end of the thousand year reign of Jesus.

VERSE ONE: Rev.20:1

Establish that the abyss of Revelation, and Hades, are two ways of describing, the same place.
Rom.10:7; Acts 2:24,27,31; Rev.1:18
(Previous program covered "Hades")(Suggest Blog search: Sheol Hades)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-sheole-hades.html
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Hades when translated, means "not perceiving" (e.g. Mark 4:12). 
As covered in previous posts and audio program, it is the consignment of all those born under sin, and its meaning is to be under a blanket of spiritual darkness, ignorance, and confusion. Only those granted light, truth, and understanding, are figuratively rescued from the realm of Hades.

When Jesus tells us that he has the keys to Hades/Abyss... this means that he has the power and authority to release whom he chooses, from spiritual darkness... and transfer into his kingdom of light and life (Matt.16:17-18; Col.1:13; Luke 8:10; 4:18-21; Isa.49:9) those who are repentant (John 1:4; 5:40; Matt.13:14-15). 

Jesus also has the authority and power to lock up others... or to leave them there, in ignorance and spiritual darkness (Rev.3:7-8; Matt.13:10-11,13-14,15-16; Jude 1:13; John 12:35) those hard-hearted who are not repentant. Such ones remain under the authority and power of the Devil (2Cor.4:4; John 3:18).

When Rev.20:1 tells us that the chain of restraint that Jesus possesses is "great"; this points to the ability of Jesus, to prevent understanding and perception among the blind, but proud (John 9:41). When Jesus wraps that symbolic chain around the Devil, and then casts the Devil into the Abyss/Hades... this depicts for us, Satan's blind inability to mislead those whom Jesus rescues from darkness... because it is now Satan who is overcome by the blind confusion of his own realm.

Jesus also shares his keys (power and authority) to release from the abyss (or bind in chains of ignorance) (Matt.16:19; 18:18). Christ's enlightened and anointed brothers and royal priests, may also judge as others as repentant (John 20:23) and worthy of the treasures of truth which they are empowered by Jesus, to impart (Matt.10:7,11-12,13-14; 7:6; Rev.5:10; Mal.2:7).
 [re-read Rev.20:1]

VERSE TWO Rev.20:2

Mark 3:27; Isa.49:24-25
Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Matt.24:24-25; 19:26; Col.1:13;  1Thess.5:4-5;  2Cor.2:11
So, during the reign of Jesus, the 144,000 of Zion (Rev.14:1), are children and warrior kings, of Light 
(2Cor.4:6; Eph.5:8;  1Thess.5:5; Matt.5:14-15,16)(Rom.13:12;  2Cor.6:7;  1Cor.10:3-4,5; Eph.6:12).
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While the Devil is restrained in the dark abyss of Hades... he cannot perceive a method of overcoming the light within those who belong to Christ (Matt.16:18; John 1:5; Luke 10:19; Col.1:13) for the period during which, Jesus reigns over his congregations (Eph.4:14-15,16; John 15:5)... during the symbolic "thousand years". During Christ's kingdom, the royal priesthood under Christ have spiritual perception. They are not ignorant of Satan's manipulative devices (2Cor.2:11). They have been rescued from his realm (Luke 4:18; Isa.49:9,24-25; Mark 3:27; Luke 11:21-22; Rev.20:1-2,3).

Abyss-Hades ("not perceiving"). 
How were the "nations" mislead by Satan? Who are the nations who will no longer be mislead?
We know that the world of unbelievers are already blinded by Satan (2Cor.4:4; Eph.2:2) and the world is already under Satan's influence and power (1John 5:19). So the nations that Satan is not able to deceive anymore, are those belonging to Christ, just as the previous scriptures contained in our examination of Rev.20:1-2, confirm.
Those of faith are rescued from the dominion of darkness (Col.1:13;  1Pet.2:9), because the light of Christ shines in their hearts (2Cor.4:6) and the Devil is prevented from swallowing them down into darkness (2Cor.2:11;  1Pet.5:8-9).

Can the nations that are no longer deceived during Jesus "thousand years", also be at the same time, Christ's congregation? (See Rev.5:9-10; Rom.1:16; Matt.28:19)
Those of the nations that were rescued from Satanic deception, need not be of Satan's world (1John 5:19).
Those of all national groups spoken of in Rev.20:3, can be of his congregation (Rev.5:10). 
Yet after Satan's release, the Bible tells us that Satan goes forth to mislead them 
(Rev.12:15,17,9; Matt.24:4; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24,20; Rev.20:9). 
For a time, he is successful, due to the success of his messengers... 
(Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 13:11,15,7-8; 9:1-3; Joel 2:2; Dan.8:11-12,13; Rev.11:2; 13:7; Dan.11:31-32,33-34,35; 12:10,7-8,9,3-4,1)

We see that at the same time as the thousand years ending; the Devil is set free from the abyss (Hades: "not perceiving") of blindness. He is then able to discern and perceive how to deceive the nations of God.
1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 13:7,10; Col.2:8; Matt.24:5,24-25,22
So after Satan's release, he is able mislead all the present remnant... all the previously enlightened nations belonging to God...  during the Great Tribulation (Dan.8:11-12,24; Col.2:19; John 15:5-6).

Who sits on thrones to judge the Israel of God?
Matt.19:28; Luke 22:30; Rev.21:12,14,27;  1Cor.3:10-11; Eph.2:20-21,22
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Those who reign with Jesus before Satan's release from the abyss, never fell prey to the Beast or it's image, or were branded as it's captive slaves. According to Rev.20:5 they "came to life", first.
(Previous audio program linked above, covered how and when, disciples of the past, come to life - Col.2:13; John 5:24; Mark 8:35)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/10/coming-to-life.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/02/there-are-those-who-wonder-if-my_7388.html
According to Rev.7:4 they are the 144,000 who reign with Jesus during his thousand year kingdom.
Those who come to life spiritually after Satan's release, are at Rev.7:9-10 and Rev.6:11 (Rev.20:5)
  Rev.7:14 - They come through the Great Tribulation. They had to "wash their robes" to remove the stain of their sin (Rev.6:9-10,11; Rom.6:5; Mark 8:35).
  Rev.7:16-17 - As discipline, they suffered hunger and thirst and the scorching heat of the sun (Heb.12:6; Ps.11:6; Rev.16:8; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; 58:11), before being given, living water (Rev.7:17; John 4:10,14; Rev.22:17).

--So the "144000" come to spiritual life, during Jesus "thousand year" kingdom, which started in the first century. 
They were never exposed to Satan's release, nor his final machination of the Great Tribulation. They never fell prey to demonic teachings, captivity to deception, or idolatry to Satan's alliance of Beasts... the false prophet (Rev.13:11; 19:20) or the Gentile organization to which that false prophet, is benefactor (Dan.8:24; 11:23; Rev.13:15) (Rev.13:1,4,11,14-15; 16:14;  1Tim.4:1).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=alliance)
--(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/why-jesus-came-to-earth-last-world.html)

VERSE FIVE Rev.20:5

The rest of the dead (Rev.12:17) (Eph.2:1; Col.2:13) do not come to life (John 5:24), until after Satan is released and conquered (Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 17:4; 20:9; 11:5; Jer.5:14; Hosea 6:5) (Rev.6:7-8;  1Cor.15:26). 

The remaining ones of the woman's seed, are the ones that must contend with Satan's magnum opus of deception, channeled through the false prophet and Sea Beast (Rev.16:13-14,15-16;  1Tim.4:1), and the loss of Jesus' authority and power over his congregation (Rev.13:7; Dan.9:26; 8:11) to the anti-Christ, the Man of Lawlessness/Sin (2Thess.2:4). 

The remnant have greater tribulation and darkness to deal with, in comparison to those who reigned with Christ while Satan was still restrained in the abyss. Due to subjection to Satan's agents, the "great crowd" are made vulnerable to, the "second death", unlike their predecessors (Rev.20:6).
[Release of second death is depicted at (Rev.6:7-8; Rev.4:8; Isa.62:6) (Eze.14:4,21; Rev.6:8) and is announced by the fourth watchman of the night.]
Rev.20:5
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VERSE SIX  Rev.20:6

The second death has no power over those who reign with Jesus during the 1,000 years (Luke 10:19; John 15:7-8).
The second death, is the Lake of Fire (Rev.20:14; 15:2; 4:6; Hosea 6:5; Isa.33:1; Rev.9:11; Isa.30:33; Rev.14:10; 19:20; 20:10), which means God's judgment of condemnation (Gen.19:24; Hosea 6:5; Rev.11:5; 20:9; 19:11,14; Eph.2:6)(John 15:6;  1Cor.3:11-12,13-14,15;  2Pet.3:7,10-11,12) (Jer.5:14; Rev.11:5; Matt.10:20; John 16:8 -- Rev.20:12; John 12:48; 1:14; 17:3,17).

When Satan IS released and able to deceive the holy ones (Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8), the second death is able to overpower them. 
Their idolatry toward the image of the beast...
(Rev.13:7-8,10; 2:20;  2Cor.11:4,20,3; Rev.13:10; Col.2:8;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 17:14), 
...causes them to come under God's condemnation (Ex.20:3-5; Rev.2:20).
Though having been born again and having received a second life of spirit (John 1:12-13; 3:6; Rom.8:9;  2Pet.1:4; John 10:35; Ps.82:6), that life/crown is stolen from them (Rev.3:11; James 1:12) and they die again, the second death, which can only occur to those who have received the second birth. 
The harlot has given their crown of power and authority, to the locust-scorpions (Isa.23:8; Rev.9:7). That is when the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place (Mark 13:14;  2Thess.2:4)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/01/who-are-gods.html
   [If they repent (Rev.2:16; 3:3,19), they can receive that crown back again (Rev.2:10; Rom.6:5)(Eze.34:13-14; Mark 13:14; Eze.7:16; Jer.31:6) (Matt.13:15; Ps.103:3; Rev.3:18; 7:14)]

When Jesus is no longer, head of his congregation; how will that disconnect, effect it? What do they lose? 
(Col.2:19,6-7,8; John 15:5; 8:12; 11:10; 9:4; Amos 5:20; Matt.24:29; Rev.9:1-2,3; Joel 2:2; Jer.13:16).
---They become vulnerable to being taken captive to deception. 
Remember Rev.13:10 (Col.2:8)
Those who are deceived after Satan's release, lose connection to Christ (Col.2:13; John 15:4-5). They surrender their royal authority (Rev.17:13;  2Chron.13:5; Matt.5:13; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:24) and become captive slaves to the false prophet and it's beast. (Rev.2:20; 13:7,10; Col.2:8)
They are idolaters, through their dedicated service to the Image of the Beast. They are no longer "alive in Christ" as the 144,000 were (1Cor.15:22; Eph.2:5; Rom.6:11). Rather than having the slave mark of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1) they are branded as slaves to the Beast (Rev.13:16,7). 
They are not immune to the "second death" as their predecessors, were.

How are those who are overcome by the Great Tribulation and it's alliance of a false prophet and Beast, to regain their crown of life? How can they come out from under the trampling and captivity, to that alliance of Satan?
  Rev.20:4-5,6
There is a contrast between those who are raised from death first and exercise their power and authority as priests and kings, during the "thousand years", 
and the "rest", who come to life after the "thousand years". 
The rest, are those who face the last enemy Death, and it's agents from the abyss... the "locust scorpions", depicted collectively as the Wild Beast (Rev.9:1-2,3; 11:7; Joel 2:2; Eze.2:6).

So, the "thousand years" ends... Satan is released. He puts his demonic teachings/spirits, into the false prophet and Beast 
(1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 13:11,14-15;  1Kings 22:21-22,23; Rev.19:20). 
That two-horned false prophet becomes benefactor to the Beast (Luke 22:25; Dan.8:24; 11:23), by breathing Satan's spirit and ability to deceive, into the image of the Beast (Rev.13:15). As Rev.13:7,10 tell us, the saints are then conquered and taken captive (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10) in harmony with Luke 21:24. Dan.8:11-12,24-25; 11:31-32,33-34,35-36; 9:26
For a review of these events and the associated scriptures; the previous parts of this post can be considered.

So the Great Tribulation brings trampling and desolation to the remaining ones of the woman's seed, with which Satan is at war (Rev.12:17,15; Dan.9:26; Mark 13:14). 
For a time they are conquered by 
    Satan's release (Rev.13:7) 
    the power he grants to the false prophet (Rev.9:1; 8:10-11; 16:13-16; 13:11;  1Tim.4:1) 
    and Beast which that prophet, benefits (Dan.8:24; 11:23; Rev.13:15; 19:20; Luke 22:25). 
Jesus draws the contrast between worldly rule (Matt.4:8-9), within which the title "benefactor" is given to those who rule with all the splendor of earthly display and luxury, 
..and divine kingdom, in which it belongs only to those whose work is that of humble, obscure and often, menial service to God's grace, spirit, and truth 
(Matt.20:26-27,28; Mark 10:42-43; Luke 17:10; 18:16).

Why does God allow His sanctuary and it's royal priesthood, to be trampled?
We get a brief answer from Jesus, at Matt.5:13.
Those being trampled, have lost the strength of their covenant of salt with God... to be kings (2Chron.13:5). As Jesus said at John 18:37, the chosen are to use their royal authority and power just as Jesus did, and take their stand for truth, to the death (Rev.6:9-10,11; Mark 8:35). 
If they've lost the strength of that conviction and allow themselves to be mislead and enslaved into idolatry; then they lose their connection to Christ, without whom, they can do nothing (John 15:5) to resist Satan's Great Tribulation.

So we learn at Rev.13:7-8; 2:20; 13:7-8 that Satan's release brings with it, a plague of idolatry, even among the chosen. They are consequently, not safe from the second death or the Lake of Fire, in contrast to the preceding chosen, who reigned with Christ before the thousand years ended, and before Satan's release (Rev.20:4-5).
What hope is there for those overcome by the Great Tribulation?
Rev.7:14; 19:8; 6:9-10,11; 12:10-11; Mark 8:35

Throughout the first three chapters of Revelation, Jesus supplicates his own slaves, to repent.
How do we know that repentance is warranted, in the time of Jesus return and the conclusion of the age (Matt.24:3)? (Rev.3:3;  2Pet.3:10;  1Thess.5:2,6)
What are we told about all ten virgins, when the Bridegroom is arriving? Matt.25:5-6 (Heb.13:13)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/12/some-have-told-me-that-buying-and.html
They all were asleep (1Thess.5:6-7; Rev.14:8) (Rev.5:9-10)
https://pearl-kingsofearth.blogspot.com
Repentance is needed, at the time of Christ's return (Luke 18:8; Eph.4:5)
(1Pet.4:17; Luke 18:8; Amos 5:18;  1Thess.5:2; Matt.24:43; 25:1,5;  2Pet.3:10-11,12-13)
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Why is the Second Death described symbolically as a Lake of Fire?
A Lake is normally made of life-giving water. Truth is often symbolized by water. But this lake, contains fire.
Isa.4:4; Num.31:23; Zech.13:9;  1Cor.3:13-14; Mal.3:1-2,3; Rev.11:3-4,5; Jer.5:14; 23:29,32
If we refuse correction and repent, the final judgments of God will consume, condemn, and destroy us... if we do not prove faithful repentance (Mark 8:35; Rev.11:7; 6:11; 12:11; 9:18,20; 13:8).
If we do repent, we can be refined by the fire of God's standards found in His Word of truth (Jer.23:29; Zech.13:9; Job 23:10; Rev.3:18), repent, and be cleansed into a clean standing with God.
Rev.7,10,14; Eze.37:23;  2Cor.6:16; Rev.21:3

VERSE SEVEN Rev.20:7

How is Satan, released from his chains, and then enabled to deceive God's people?
Rev.8:10-11; 9:1 describe how Satan's dark deceptions are released.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-has-key-to-abyss.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=the+fallen+star

We see an identity that was "burning as a great lamp" (Matt.5:15; John 5:35; Rev.1:20).
It fell from heaven (2Pet.3:17) and left God's grace and truth (2Cor.6:1). 
They accepted a "key" of power and authority (Matt.4:8-10;  1John 2:15-16; Luke 6:24; Rev.3:17-18), 
to open Satan's dark abyss of deception and confusion. They conjure up and release from the depths of Hades, Satan's power to stifle and becloud spiritual perception. (Eze.34:18-19; Rev.4:6).
God allows this force of discipline, because their love of truth is cooled (2Thess.2:9-10; Rev.2:4) 
That fallen star "Wormwood" who gains a key to the Abyss, releases an ally (Rev.9:1-2,3; 13:14-15; 19:20; Joel 2:2; Jer.13:16).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=the+fallen+star
Those who are overcome by that military force (Rev.9:3; Eze.2:6), are overcome by the deceptions of Satan, who is now free to empower his collective Beast (locust-scorpion constituents) and it's false prophet (Wormwood)... 
     (Rev.13:4,7; 9:1-3; Matt.24:29; Joel 2:1-2; Jer.13:16-17; Isa.25:7; 59:9; 5:26-30; 
      Joel 2:1-2,3,10; Matt.24:6; Dan.11:36;  2Thess.2:4; Matt.24:15-16) 
...with demonic teachings (Rev.16:13-14,15-16;  1Tim.4:1).
(Suggest https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)

When we are agents of deceptive doctrine, we support the father of the lie (Rev.16:13-14; 13:11; John 8:44). Satan works through human agents in the physical realm (2Cor.11:13-14,15; Rev.13:11).
When a prophet falls from grace by their teaching for Satan and the demons, 
  promoting their demonic power to deceive, 
    and by being Satan's messenger to God's people; 
--it is equivalent to the analogy of Satan being released from restraint, advancing into the land of God, and gaining command over God's nation. The result to the remnant is a desolation, captivity, and trampling down.

Think of how God's nation was lead astray into idolatry in the past. Israel's kings became corrupt and turned to false gods. They largely refused to heed God's warning through His prophets 
(Jer.35:15; 44:5; Rev.11:3; 11:7; Jer.26:5-6; Matt.23:37-38). 
God's land became adulterous due to an alliance with God's enemy, Satan. After having lost God's protection as a consequence, they compounded their error by turning to the nations around them for support and protection, furthering their acts of licentious harlotry.

Do you see any identity today, that has taken a leadership role over the people of God, 
  become worshipful toward an image, 
    become a false prophet, 
      accepted worldly position, riches, and power
        and having turned to the nations for support rather than their God?

Faithful obedience to the warnings of the past, the teaching of Christ, and the warnings of prophecy, are all a protection from Satan's power. Only if we strictly follow the narrow path of Christ, will anointed kings be enabled to avoid the pitfalls of Satanic temptation. 
If such a royal priest and prophet becomes unfaithful, well then, through such a leading steward over God's household, Satan becomes loosed to mislead God's nation (Rev.8:10-11; 2:20;  2Thess.2:9-10,11-12). This is the very scenario depicted within Revelation, and prophesied to occur during the Great Tribulation.

Under the era of the New Covenant, Jesus installs a steward over his household (Luke 21:24; Rev.1:20; Eph.2:20-21,22). Jesus said that such a steward could prove either faithful or unfaithful, and he gave the traits of both sorts.
If unfaithful, that prophet would not be providing the proper spiritual information at the time it was needed. Revelation tells us clearly, that when the events described take place... God's people are brought into subjection and trampled, by an image that appears to be spirit-breathed/directed/inspired (Rev.13:15; John 20:22)(Rev.13:7-8,10). Why would they do that... if the steward over them were dispensing the right information at the right time??? 

Revelation tells us plainly, that the entity which empowers the Beast to dominate the chosen, is a false prophet. Why not accept this simple description? (Matt.24:4-5,24-25). We see the false prophet of Rev.13:11, deceiving people from all nations, to share in the work of erecting the Beast's Image, and requiring worship to it (Rev.13:14; 19:20). 
Why does God call this two-horned beast, a false prophet, if it is two secular countries? Are the four horns of the golden altar that is before God (Rev.9:13), also four countries? Are the seven horns on Jesus head, also countries? (Rev.5:6). 
There is no reason found in the Bible, to interpret the two-horned false prophet, as the United States and Britain. But there is ample reason found in the Bible, to accept God's chosen terminology of "false prophet", as the identity who is misleading God's people into idolatry (Matt.24:4-5,24-25; Rev.2:20; 18:4; Dan.11:21,31-32).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/01/is-wicked-steward-real.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/02/who-is-false-prophet-who-gives-breath.html

VERSE EIGHT Rev.20:8

"go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth" (Rev.16:13-14; 17:1-2,15; Joel 3:9-10,11-12,13-14,15-16,17,20-21; Rev.6:9-10; 19:1-2; 18:8,24,20) (Deut.4:27; 28:64; Rev.13:8,7,10; Mark 13:27; Jer.9:15-16; Rev.8:11)
1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 19:20; 13:11,14-15; 9:13-14,15; Matt.24:5,24-25;  2Thess.2:9; Dan.8:24-25,12
"Gog and Magog" Once again we see an alliance depicted, which mobilizes, as a result of being deceived (Matt.24:4-5;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-14,15-16; 17:14; 19:11,14;  2Cor.10:3-4,5; Rev.12:17).
SIDE POINT: [Jesus spoke of one kingdom, in many different parables (see Matt.13)(Matt.13:34-35; John 6:26-27,35). Jesus gave us Revelation (Rev.1:1). Just as with Jesus' any depictions of the one kingdom of God; we also see here in Revelation, many depictions of the same identities and events (Rev.10:11).]

"and gather them for battle
(Rev.12:7,17; 13:7; 11:7; 9:7,9; 16:14; 19:19; 17:14; 20:8 etc.)
"In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
These are not the sea (Isa.57:20), but rather... the sands of the land that are being tossed, pounded, and controlled BY the sea (Hosea 1:10; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10,7). They are also not the stars of heaven, but are still earthly. Yet both sort, are Abraham's seed (Gen.22:17; Gal.3:26-27,28-29).

Satan is seen "standing" on the sands of the sea (Rev.13:1; Dan.11:45), just after John says that he goes off to wage war with the remaining ones of the woman's seed (Rev.12:17) after his release. 
       (There are no chapters or verses in original writings)
To stand over or take your seat over an identity, is a depiction of domination 
       (Eph.6:13; Acts 4:26; 7:55; Ps.110:1;  2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:36-37,16,31). 
Rev.13:1 informs us, that Satan is out of the abyss, and has gained advantage over the "sand", the unsealed of Abraham's seed of earth (Gen.22:16-17,18; 17:5; Isa.48:19). 
As a result of that domination through the false prophet and it's Gentile Beast (Rev.13:11,15), Abraham's seed is trampled (Rev.13:7,10). Those unsealed "kings of the earth", who throw their lot in with the Image of the Beast (Rev.17:12-13,14; 1:5; 5:9-10), are slave-marked by the Beast's deceptive laws (Rev.13:16; Deut.11:18). 
This brand mark of the beast puts those not sealed (Rev.7:3) into spiritual conflict with Christ and his faithful witnesses who testify to God's truths. The Beast which the ten kings support, kills the faithful (Rev.11:7; John 16:2; Mark 13:13; Rev.6:9-10,11; 12:10-11; Luke 12:51; Matt.10:34; Rev.2:16).
https://pearl-kingsofearth.blogspot.com
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html
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VERSE NINE Rev.20:9
"They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people (Greek: "hagiOn" G40 "holy saints -  1Pet.2:9-10; Heb.8:10; Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1; 7:3), the City He loves"
I will pause here, to clarify a comparison between this verse, and WT doctrine.

According to the WT, the events of Rev.20:9 take place after the end of a paradisaic and literal thousand years, which begins after Armageddon. But they also teach, that all the holy faithful ones, are then in heaven. Can you see that the WT's interpretation is impossible and untrue? 
The Bible tells us clearly, that Satan's minions are marching on earth
How then, do they "surround" the "camp/tent" of God's people/saints, and the holy city heavenly Jerusalem (2Chron.6:6; Isa.62:1-2,3-4,5-6,7; Rev.21:2-3,10; Matt.5:35; Luke 21:20)..., when "God's people", are the Israel of God... the saints (1Pet.2:9-10; Rev.5:10;  1Cor.3:16) (Gal.6:16; 3:29; Rom.2:28-29)? 
God's people have His laws symbolically written on their heart (Jer.31:33). How would we recognize who these are? Deut.11:18 tells us, they these would have a symbolic mark on their forehead. 
Rev.14:1 tells us who that is.
We may have our own idea as to who the "144000" are... but the point is; JWs believe that "God's people" of Rev.20:9, are JWs. Yet JWs also do NOT believe, that all the rank and file JWs, are the anointed/the holy beloved city/the saints (Rev.21:9-10). That being the case, according to their own doctrine... JWs are not God's people, and are not the ones being surrounded by Gog and Magog. The remaining ones of God's anointed priesthood, are.
1Pet.2:9-10

The Bible speaks in many places, about this same situation of being surrounded 
(Luke 21:20,24; Rev.13:10; Luke 19:43).
The WT does not have the correct timetable for these prophetic events. 
The holy city/beloved city/holy ones/temple/holy place/saints, are surrounded and trampled, during the Great Tribulation. 
On the one hand, the WT teaches that Satan is let out a thousand years after Armageddon. On the other hand, Satan gathers Gog and Magog, leading into Armageddon. They want it both ways, but both scenarios of Rev.20:7-8, cannot be true.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/who-become-gods-people.html

VERSE TEN Rev.20:10
"But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
Eph.2:6; Jer.2:29; 5:14; Rev.11:5

Saturday, December 17, 2016

The Sting of Death -- First Death, or Second Death?

Questions I received:
When the world was destroyed in the day of Noah; Did that symbolize the removal or cleansing, of the first death? I have a problem understanding the timetable of the end of the two deaths. I know these are the last days, and the final and total judgment of life or death. Does the meaning behind Noah's day (as it pertains to the final judgment and salvation for Noah and his family), count as both the deadly power (of the flood), and then the removal, of both the first and second deaths, at once? I hope you can understand what I am asking   ?
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My Reply:
I also hope that I understand what it is you are asking. Please let me know.
I wanted to tell you that there is a post about what the meaning of the flood is for us today.
Here it is:
If you did not read that one, please do, as a primer to this response of mine. 

You asked if the "death" that is brought by the "elder"army/symbolic flood/Great Tribulation (Greatest-Trib-Why?)(tails-stingers-scorpions), 
is the first or second death.
I did not know. 
I said a prayer, and some scriptures came to mind. Here is the result of what the scriptures caused me to perceive.....

The second death, is the "Lake of Fire", and is a symbol for God's condemnation and judgment (Rev.20:15; Matt.10:28) (search-lake-fire). Those thrown there, are then destroyed by Satan... because they have been abandoned by God and He does not rescue or protect them if they did not repent (1Cor.10:10-11; Rev.9:11).  
       (To read more about the Destroyer:   
       (who-is-destroyer)
It is a spiritual death (meaning, you do not get eternal life).

The first death, is physical. All die this death. Adam lost spiritual life for us all. Christ offers life for our spirit (Rom.3:23; 5:12; John14:6; 5:24; 6:63; 5:40; 3:36). If we are like all those who do not know God (2Thess.1:8; 2Cor.4:4; Eph.4:18), we die the first physical death. We have no other life, because we are not alive in our spirit (Sheol/hell/Hades). Spirit life only comes to those who are sons of God, or to the children of those sons of God (who are not anointed, but who are baptized in water, by them) (Matt.28:19-20; 1Pet.3:20-21) (meaning-of-baptism). Spirit life is sustained by God's spirit.

The anointed can lose their spirit life/being born again as spirit... returning to their dead condition (Jude 1:12; Eze.18:24), as do their spiritual children who continue to follow them (Matt.15:14; Job 33:22). That puts them back under the first death of Adam, because their spirit has now died (because the anointed leave the spirit of their Father, God -Gal.4:6) (or those not anointed, leave their father Christ - Isa.9:6; Ps.45:16). 

I would like to illustrate this by analogy, in the hope of making it clearer.
We are physically alive. That life can be symbolized as being like a battery that is charged. Without re-charging, that battery eventually weakens and dies. When Adam lost the Tree of Life, he lost the ability to re-charge his spiritual and physical life.
       (who-tree-of-life?)
Spirit life is from Christ. He offers a spiritual birth. In order to sustain our spiritual life, we need to remain connected to Christ. If we lose connection to holy spirit sourced in Christ, our spirit dies.

  If those who had previously received the gift of spirit life, lose spirit, and do not repent before the end, they are thrown into the lake of fire (second death).

If the "elders" and false prophet can mislead the anointed, they can cause both... a return to the first and consignment to second death.
The first condemnation and death is standard (John 3:18; 1Cor.15:45; Rom.5:12) The second death happens as soon as someone is no longer saved by Jesus Christ, and they have left the teachings of Jesus, by following the Beast (Rev.13:8). 
  The second death happens, when God's final judgment and condemnation, arrives (fire-from-heaven). All those who have not repented of their idolatry to the Beast and false prophet, are thrown there (Rev.13:8; 20:15) 
This primarily refers to the anointed.
Those who are not anointed (but are baptized and think they are worshiping Yhwh),
are judged according to the leader/spiritual parent, they are following... whether true, or false. That leader is like a parent, and their children are those who follow and obey them (Hosea 2:2; 4:5; Eze.14:10; Rev.2:20,23; Jer.5:30-31). That relationship between false prophet and their followers, is sometimes illustrated within scripture, as the fruit produced by the branches of a vine. That branch is the parent. It's fruit are it's teachings, and the "children" that consume them. Spiritual children cling to the branch, feeding from it. What they become, is a result of what they have received from the branch. The vine/root, is either the teachings and spirit of Christ (John15:4-5,8; Luke 10:16), or of Satan (Deut.32:32-33; Rev.13:11; 14:19; 16:13; 13:16,18; Ps.58:3-4; Zech.7:11) 

If we are obeying a faithful slave and steward of Christ (Luke 12:42; John21:17; Matt.7:20; Luke 7:35; John7:38-39; Rev.22:17; Gal.4:26), we receive spiritual life through them, as a spiritual mother (pregnant/nursing)
(Matt.5:14-15; Rev.1:20; 2Cor.4:6; 3:18; Mal.2:7; Rev.1:5-6; 5:9-10) (Matt.18:10).
But if we are obeying an unfaithful slave and wicked steward, we receive death from them (Rev.2:20,23) 
(Jezebel) (2-mothers). 

The harlot (unfaithful, false prophet), uses the Beast under her (organization/"elder" Gentile army) to spread her poison waters of death to all her children. Those messengers, bring the sting of death to those who listen, learn, and obey. 
If we are taken captive by those teachings (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10; Luke 21:24), and we do not repent then we will end in the lake of fire/second death.


So, the answer to you is,
that the army of "elders"/spiritual flood (Dan.11:10)
            --(see the first Link above, "symbolic Earth")&(Satans-forces)
               (dark-army)(dark-army2)(satans-flood),
can bring both deaths, if we have accepted the mark of the Beast and do not repent before the end. 
If we do repent, then our previously being marked by the Beast, had only caused a return to the first death, from which we can get rescued (by repentance). 
Through the final watchman/last Elijah/messenger of the covenant; God's Temple will be restored, and salvation offered through God's flood covenant, to those who repent (Luke 17:26-27; Ps.18:16-17; 66:12; Isa.54:7-9; Gen.9:11-13; Rev.10:1; Mal.3:1; Zech.4:10,9; Rev.22:6). 
Leaving our slavery to the Organizational Beast behind us, compares to "leaving the City" (Matt.22:9; Rev.18:4). Is that enough? (See this link: leaving-enough?)
Is it enough to leave behind the Beast as the master over our hearts and minds? No. We must also turn to God and Christ as our masters, and be marked as their obedient slaves... 
...thereby avoiding the second death (Eze.18:21).

I hope that addresses your questions.
Please let me know,
Pearl

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