Saturday, November 16, 2013

"Keys"

Chosen, anointed "stars" (Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3) can indeed fall (2Pet.3:17; Rev.12:4). The fallen star (Rev.8:10,11) is handed the "key" to the "abyss" (Rev.9:1). The abyss is the power of deception and death. By accepting that "key" to the abyss from Satan it's "king" (Rev.9:11; John8:44); this fallen anointed one enters a covenant with Death (Isa.28:15). That covenant is called..."Babylon the Great". Covenants are symbolized as "mothers" (Gal.4:24,26; Rev.12:1,2,5; 17:5).
To have the "key" to the Abyss, is to acquire the power and authority of the "kingdom of this world" (1John5:19) by those who "mind the flesh" (Rom.8:5,6,7,8). Jesus was tempted with this very key (Luke4:5-6) by means of the one who holds it (Rev.9:11; Heb.2:14 B). This key to deception and death enables it's holder to ensnare and take captive, those overcome by the power of the Abyss (Rev.18:23; Ec.7:26; Prov.5:3-5,21-22; Ps.18:16-19; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; 2Tim.2:26; 1Tim.4:1). We are set free from this power, by the truth (John8:32,36; 2Cor.3:17; Gal.5:1; James1:25). Christ and his faithful possess the power and authority to free from deception and death (Isa.49:9; Luke4:18; John9:39; Rev.1:18; 3:7-8; John15:15; Luke24:45). This power is also symbolized by keys. When given the "keys to the kingdom" (Matt.16:19), one acquires a sharing in the authority and power of the "kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ", by means of the one who holds them (Matt.28:18) and are given to those who "mind the spirit" (Rom.8:1,2,9,11). It means to acquire authority over and above the key to deception and death (Luke10:19; Rev.1:18; Heb.2:14; 1Cor.15:56,57) and it's agents (Rev.9:10; Luke10:19; Eze.2:6,7,4,5)
 (Rev.11:15)
The fallen star of Rev.9:1, is "Wormwood" (Rev.8:11), who is present today as the last harlot daughter of Babylon (Zech.2:7; Isa.1:21; Jer.2:20; 51:12,13; Rev.17:1) ...the false prophet (Rev.16:13; 19:20; 13:11,14)...and the two-horned wild beast of Rev.13:11. These are all symbolic parables about the same identity.
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Friday, November 15, 2013

Satan's "fall" -- "Heaven" -- "seven spirits of God" -- the Kingdom

This is my own comment in response to one which was left at:
"The Kingdom--When?"

Dear Brother Rus,
When a comment contains a link, I must read the link before I post the comment. If I find that according to my own eye, I see it contains some error, I must refuse to post the comment. I cannot promote anything if I see any error, because I stand as responsible before my father for what might seem to be my recommendation.
I have posted your comment, because it contains much truth. But in doing so, I must also post the things which I believe need adjusting. Otherwise, I could not have posted it.

There are three assertions which I noted, and I must address for readers who may use your link.
The first, is under the heading, "The Kingdom of God".
It refers to Matt.6:10 and the words, 
"Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so on earth.".
You say, 
"That means , the Kingdom of Heaven can exist in heaven, even not being come yet on earth."
Then you refer to Psalm33:13,14:
"From heaven the LORD looks down 
and sees all mankind; 
from his dwelling place he watches 
all who live on earth-"

I understand our human inclination to view things physically, as if heaven was a physical place, separate from the physical space of the earth. But Matt.6:9,10 refer to a spiritual "place", where God's will is done. This "honoring of God's name" (and His will being done) is inside the hearts of His approved ones who belong to heaven (1John2:17; Luke17:21; Psalm89:5).

How does this apply to your cited scripture,  Psalm33:13,14?
How does God "look down" and "watch" mankind and all the earth? Is it from a "place" far from earth?
See what the Bible teaches us....
Rev.5:6 reads:
"And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth." (2Chron.16:9; Job.31:4; Ps.33:15; Zech.4:10)
Can you see that Christ has "seven horns"? 
These represent his "seven kings" (horns=kings -Rev.17:12; 1:5,6), which are also represented by the "seven stars" (Rev.1:20; 3:1) and "seven angels" (Rev.1:20). 

Each of these kings/"horns", have an "eye" (Rev.5:6; Matt.6:22; Rev.4:5). God's "7 spirits"/eyes of insight, are dispersed among them through Christ as the "Head" of his "horns". God's spirit lives within these while they are physically within the earth (1Cor.3:16; 6:19; Rom.8:9,11). They are God's "dwelling place" (the "heavens"), and these are considered heavenly while present on earth (Heb.12:22,23; Eph.2:6; Rev.12:12). This is because, heaven is not a physical place but rather, a spiritual condition. This was why Jesus could say that the kingdom of God was present when he was on the earth. It was, within his heart, one with God's spirit and God's authority. This is the "heavens" where God's will takes place. It is a placed "raised up"...not physically, but spiritually (Eph.2:6; Rev.11:12; 4:1; Prov.25:7; Luke14:10; Matt.23:12). 
The bearers of these eyes/lamps (Matt.6:22; Rev.4:5), attain God's approval, and the increased insight that comes with that spirit/"seven eyes" (Luke8:16,18; Rev.4:6,8; Eze.1:13,18; 10:12). God views the world and those in it, through the eyes of those sealed ones. He sees how his sons are treated by the world and those in it (Matt.25:32,45,46; John13:20). He forms judgments based upon that input. He has decreed that these representatives judge the world through this means (John20:23; Matt.12:28; 18:18; 1Cor.6:2,3; Rev.20:4).

When we pray for God's will to take place "as in heaven, also upon earth"; we are praying for those yet unsealed to become such. The "earth" is not a place, but rather, is also a spiritual condition (James3:15; 1Cor.3:19; 2:14; Rev.9:1; 12:4).

Jesus said that he was returning to the father to prepare a place for his co-heirs. This was not a physical place, but rather, he would send the holy spirit into their hearts. Their hearts would be prepared as a dwelling for God by means of the circumcision of spirit (Rom.2:29; Deut.30:6; Col.2:11). 
Just as Jesus said, "In the house of my father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told you." (John14:2)
God's "house" (Eph.2:19,22; 1Cor.3:9; Phil.3:20; Rev.21:3,22,23) is the many hearts of His sons (John14:23). Otherwise, if it were just one "place", Christ would have told us.
When Matt.6:10 tells us that God's will is done in heaven, and we pray for it to also take place on earth, these are not physical places, but rather, hearts. They are either debased and in darkness, or they have been cleansed and raised up to become a part of the heavens, in which God dwells. This is where the will of God is "done"/(performed).
Even the war in "heaven" (Rev.12:7,11) takes place in the heart of each chosen one. Once sealed, that battle advances between those sealed as sons of the kingdom and sons of the wicked one. Each one must prove victorious and choose their identity, and which of these two Leaders will become their Lord (1Pet.3:15; 2Cor.10:5; Rom.6:6; 7:23,25; Col.2:11; Luke 8:5,6,7,8,11,12,13,14,15,18; Matt.13:38,39,40,41,42,43). Once sealed as such, they battle for that Chosen Lord, becoming his messenger...either an "angel" of life and truth, or of death and deception.

However, you must be told that there are in a sense, two heavens....
the heavens which are now (possessing power and glory) and the heavens to come (Luke21:26; Isa.34:4; Rev.6:14; 2Pet.3:7,10,12; Eph.6:12).
A great cleansing will remove those unfit from this position. Once judged, these will "fall" to the earth.
These will be replaced by the new heavens (to possess power and glory) (2Pet.3:13; Isa.65:17; 66:22; Dan.7:18; 2:44; Rev.21:1) of which we have been speaking.
I hope you can see that Satan was judged and conquered by Christ when he died and was raised.
He was king even before that, as you can learn from recent posts.
But Satan being thrown out from heaven and losing his own kingdom over our world,
does not occur, until ALL the kings of the kingdom conquer Satan, which did not happen in the first century.
Satan's wicked "heavens" (Eph.6:12) are still ruling. Look around you and see the horror of this world.
We await the final sons of God to prove faithful (Rev.6:9,10,11; 12:10,11; Rom.16:20; 8:19) which will conquer, 
the last enemy (Psalm 110:1,2; 1Cor.15:25,26,54,55,56,57,58; Rev.20:4,6). That will complete the purpose of Christ and his Zion, in conquering all of Christ's enemies in the last battle of Armageddon (Rev.12:17; 16:13-16; 1Tim.4:1; Rev.13:7,10; Luke21:24; Rev.20:9; 11:5,3; Jer.5:14; Rev.20:12; 17:14). Afterward, the eternal kingdom of Christ and his sealed brothers, will soon be handed over to God (1Cor.15:24,25,26,27,28) who will install the victors into their eternal position (Dan.7:11-14,18,22; Isa.2:2-4; Rev.21:1-7).
If you have any questions about this, I hope you will ask. I realize it is new.
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The second, is your interpretation of Matt.16:28. It reads:
“Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”
You teach that this was fulfilled at Pentecost.

While it is true that the pouring out of Holy Spirit was a demonstration of Christ's authority, this was not what Jesus was referring to at Matt.16:28. What then, did Jesus mean?
Why, you can find that meaning in the very next verse....
"Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John his brother, led them up on a high mountain by themselves; and He was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and His clothes became as white as the light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with him. While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!". (Matt.17:1,2,3,5)

Does that "high mountain" have anything to do with "the Son of Man coming in his kingdom"?
Yes...look at how Peter referred to that same mountain...
"and we ourselves heard this utterance made from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain. For when He received honor and glory from God the Father, such an utterance as this was made to Him by the Majestic Glory, "This is My beloved Son with whom I am well-pleased ". (2Pet.1:18,17)

Peter called that "high mountain"  "holy" (Greek- "sacred") 2Pet.1:18. This sacred mountain,  is the mountain of "the Son of Man coming in his kingdom".
(see Rev.14:1; Isa.2:2,3,4)
Jesus is also described in that vision as being with his two witnesses, having a face like the sun, and bright clothes (Matt.17:2; Rev.1:10,16)
As 2Pet.1:19 continues, this vision was a prophecy about "the son of man coming in his kingdom".
He was king then, and is now, possessing all authority (Matt.28:18; Eph.1:20,21). But he is still placing all his enemies under his feet....
battling along with those Chosen ones who choose his side (Rev.17:14; 19:14; 12:7). He will not come in his kingdom of kings, until his symbolic two witnesses (seven horns/kings) are all ready to be with him in his kingdom. This they will be, after they also conquer Satan (Rev.12:10,11; 3:21; 2:26; 21:7).
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The third, ...you are teaching that "Satan falling as lightening from heaven" is the star which falls from heaven, at Rev.9:1.
This is not correct. Satan is mentioned at Rev.9:11, and is said to be king over the fallen star of Rev.9:1, as well as all the other identities in Revelation chapter nine (locust scorpions and the unsealed men).
The "fallen star" of Rev.9:1 is the same one of Rev.8:10,11 who was "burning as a lamp" (Rev.8:10; Matt.5:14,15,16). It is also said to be a "great star" (Rev.8:10).
The "seven stars" in Jesus' right hand (Rev.1:20) are chosen ones.  These are supposed to burn as lamps, according to the many scriptures I have already cited. 

Chosen, anointed "stars" (Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3) can indeed fall (2Pet.3:17; Rev.12:4). The fallen star (Rev.8:10,11) is handed the "key" to the "abyss" (Rev.9:1). The abyss is the power of deception and death. By accepting that "key" to the abyss from Satan it's "king" (Rev.9:11; John8:44); this fallen anointed one enters a covenant with Death (Isa.28:15). That covenant is called..."Babylon the Great". Covenants are symbolized as "mothers" (Gal.4:24,26; Rev.12:1,2,5; 17:5).
To have the "key" to the Abyss, is to acquire the power and authority of the "kingdom of this world" (1John5:19) by those who "mind the flesh" (Rom.8:5,6,7,8). Jesus was tempted with this very key (Matt.4:8,9) by means of the one who holds it (Rev.9:11; Heb.2:14 B). This key to deception and death enables it's holder to ensnare and take captive, those overcome by the power of the Abyss (Rev.18:23; Ec.7:26; Prov.5:3-5,21-22; Ps.18:16-19; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; 2Tim.2:26; 1Tim.4:1). We are set free from this power, by the truth (John8:32,36; 2Cor.3:17; Gal.5:1; James 1:25). Christ and his faithful possess the power and authority to free from deception and death (Isa.49:9; Luke4:18; John9:39; Rev.1:18; 3:7-8; John15:15; Luke24:45). This power is also symbolized by keys. When given the "keys to the kingdom" (Matt.16:19), one acquires a sharing in the authority and power of the "kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ", by means of the one who holds them (Matt.28:18) and are given to those who "mind the spirit" (Rom.8:1,2,9,11). It means to acquire authority over and above the key to deception and death (Luke10:19; Rev.1:18; Heb.2:14; 1Cor.15:56,57) and it's agents (Rev.9:10; Luke10:19; Eze.2:6,7,4,5)
 (Rev.11:15)
The fallen star of Rev.9:1, is "Wormwood" (Rev.8:11), who is present today as the last harlot daughter of Babylon (Zech.2:7; Isa.1:21; Jer.2:20; 51:12,13; Rev.17:1) ...the false prophet (Rev.16:13; 19:20; 13:11,14)...and the two-horned wild beast of Rev.13:11. These are all symbolic parables about the same identity.

So now I can post your comment.
My responses will be necessary each time you include a link.
It is a very serious thing to become a teaching vessel (James 3:1; Matt.12:36).
This job is given to the priests who have been chosen to know and praise God (Isa.43:10,21; 1Pet.2:9; Mal.2:7).
These have been specifically cleansed by God (Rom.2:28-29; Isa.6:6-8), enabling them to carry out their duties "acceptably" (1Pet.2:5; Isa.43:21; 2Chron.23:6).
Those who usurp this position are termed by the scriptures as the "Man of Lawlessness" (Rev.11:2; 2Thess.2:4). 
Your support of the truth is greatly valued by me, but be extremely cautious about teaching what God has not given you to teach. (Matt.12:37; Num.18:6,7,21,22; 2Chron.23:6).
If you do not feel convinced of any statements I have made, please follow up with your specific question.
Thank you for contributing the many good ideas of truth, aside from the points I have reviewed here.
Love in Christ,
Pearl

Thursday, November 14, 2013

Where to find salvation?

The flood that will "sweep them all away" (Matt.24:39) comes from Satan's mouth (Rev.12:15; John8:44) through the False Prophet and Wild Beast (Rev.16:13,12; 13:11,2,5,14; 2Thess.2:9). 
All swallow that flood and believe Satan's lying deceptions (Rev.12:16,9,12; 13:8,4,5,6) that lead to idolatry...including the Holy Ones (Rev.13:7; Eze.22:30; Amos 8:2,3; Rev.8:1). This is why they must repent in sackcloth (Joel 1:13; Rev.11:3). Those who do, will be cleansed (Mal.3:2,3; Dan.12:10,3) and made to prophesy truth (Rev.11:3; Dan.12:3; Rev.1:20). They must "die" for that decision and faithfulness (Rev.12:11; 6:9; 20:4; Mark 8:35). Though searching everywhere for truth (during the end-time spiritual famine), few will accept it as such (Dan.12:4; Amos 8:12,11; 2Tim.3:7; Luke13:23,24; Matt.7:14).

The ark since Christ finds it symbolism within a symbol
(1Pet.3:20,21) (Eph.5:26; John17:17; 7:38,37; Rev.22:17; Matt.10:20).

(
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/12/earth-swallows-satans-river-rev1216.html)


Wednesday, November 13, 2013

The Kingdom --1914?

A QUESTION:

In The Bible where Michael has war with Satan and throws him down to this earth you will say that was 1914. Well then that means that this world is 99 years old then. Is this right? And Adam must still be alive.

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MY REPLY:

Hello Timothy,
I'll try to cover your question thoroughly by taking a part at at time.
I will put your words in bold.
Your answer is found within the scriptures, so I hope you won't waste our time by just reading the words of my reply, which is worthless.

"In The Bible where Michael has war with Satan and throws him down to this earth"

You refer to Rev. 12:7, where Satan and Michael are at war, as well as the "seed"/"angels" who follow each of these, also being at war. This war was first referred to at Gen. 3:15.
Each army of "seed" has both, a mother and a father.
The seed of "Michael" are also the seed of the "woman".
Mothers are covenants (See Gal. 4:24). There is the mother covenant of life (Gal. 4:26) and the mother covenant of death (Isa. 28:15).
This is true also of Satan's seed. He is their father (John 8:44;  2Thess. 2:3). Their mother is mentioned at Rev. 17:5.

The "seed" of these are also the "angels" of Rev. 12:7, because the original Greek translated as "angel", simply means "messenger". These angels are labeled messengers of the mother covenant they represent (Mal. 3:1; Matt. 11:10; 17:10,11,3; Rev. 11:3,4; Zech. 4:14,9) (Gal. 4:26; Rev. 3:12)

"you will say that was 1914"

I don't know where you heard that I say that Satan was hurled to the earth in 1914, because I know that this is a lying doctrine. Satan was judged in the first century by means of Christ's faithfulness (see John 12:31; 16:11,33; 14:30). Satan even lost his power over Christ's Chosen ones back then (Luke 10:18,19,20; Heb. 12:23,22; Eph. 2:6).
(Jer. 31:11; Isa. 49:24,25; Psalm 18:17; Mark 3:27; Rev. 20:2). But Jesus is not the only king that must prove faithful in the face of Satanic testing (Luke 22:31;  1Pet. 5:8-9;  1John 2:14; 5:4; Rev. 12:10-11).
As the last ones of these prove faithful to death (Rev. 6:9,10,11; 12:11), Satan's power will then become completely crushed in "heaven" (Rom. 16:20; Rev. 2:26,27; 12:5,10,11; Dan. 2:34,35; Jer. 1:10; 23:29; Matt. 10:20; Rev. 11:5; Jer. 23:29; 5:14; Hosea 6:5; Matt. 24:51). 
But the Watchtower doctrine exists, which points to 1914 and the start of great world woes. They read Rev. 12:12, and assume that Satan's being hurled down from the heavens, is physical, and has resulted in physical manifestations of the sign of the end since 1914, and that those signs fulfill the "labor pain" signs of the end (Mark 13:14). 
I hope to explain, why this is not so.

Notice that the start of Rev. 12:12 speaks of the heavens themselves are rejoicing. Does a place rejoice, or do those who belong to that place, do the rejoicing? I hope you agree, that it is the persons of heaven, that are rejoicing. Such a person can belong to heaven, even while physically, on earth (Eph. 2:6).
The same principle applies, to earth. Earth is said to be "demonic" and a place belonging to the "realms below" (James 3:15; John 8:23). Those who are not demonic (even Jesus himself) could reside in the same physical place as those who were of the demonic earth (John 8:23). 
So when we are speaking of those of heaven rejoicing, and woe for the earth, we are not talking about physical locations. We are speaking of what happens within the hearts of those who belong to the realms above, or the realms below. They can both occupy the same physical space (John  8:23). 
When Satan is "cast down" from heaven to earth... Satan's power and influence has been neutralized in those whose names are sealed in "heaven", and the wrath of Satan is confined to those still under his influence.... those in "the realm below". (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-sheole-hades.html)

Next, it is also assumed, that when we see literal physical war, famine, plague, earthquakes, etc.... it is confirmation that Satan has literally been thrown down to this planet. Although it would seem that since 1914, such developments have been observed... Is this the reason the Bible itself gives, for the manifestation of such physical signs? Could there be another cause, that harmonizes better with the rest of the scriptures?
Rather than go into the Bible's reasons why Satan's world is not the place where the signs ("labor pains") are manifested, I will give you two thoughts to reason on, along with a link which thoroughly explains each point. 
1. Is Satan's corrupt world, the mother source giving birth to God's kingdom, and is it therefore the place where labor pains take place? 
2. Which comes first... labor pains or birth? (It is asserted that the birth of the kingdom, is what started the labor pains. This is not reasonable.)
(https://pearl-laborpains.blogspot.com)
In fact, the Bible tells us why the 1914 era saw an increase of woe, and a seeming fulfillment of the signs of the end. It is not because the gathering of the final, sealed heirs was completed at that time. Neither is it because the birth of kingdom, launched visible woes (Luke 17:20) [or "labor pains" (Mark 13:8)] upon the literal planet (Rev. 12:5; 2:26-27). 
The reason why the world over which Satan controls (1John 5:19; Luke 4:5,6) saw an apparent increase in woe (approximately starting in 1914), is because that is when, Satan was unleashed from the abyss (Rev. 20:7). HE, is the ruler of the world and all that takes place within it (1John 5:19). 
It is not the inauguration of, and a bestowing of power and authority to the Prince of Peace, which ignites Sadistic violence, suffering, and catastrophe for the past century.  False doctrine asserts that Jesus' first act as king was to cast Satan down. Yet that is not what Rev. 12:10-11 states. The order of events (according to the Bible), is that Satan is first cast down by the righteous acts of the faithful. Satan is no longer able to make accusation against them and then, the kingdom is the result. Please read it again (Rev. 12:10-11). 
[A closer examination of this timing, will be examined, below.]

It is Satan's full intention, that the signs he has created in his world since his release, should be misinterpreted, as the fulfillment of the prophecies that are actually regarding God's people. Though that strategy has proven successful in misleading so many; Satan's counterfeit fulfillment of prophecy, is not the genuine. 
  Satan's release from the abyss, is the reason, not only for the world's recent troubles, but also the reason why the Great Tribulation upon God's people occurs, and why Armageddon, becomes necessary.

Many have been wrongly taught, that Satan's release occurs long after Armageddon... a literal thousand years after that final battle. They were taught that the "thousand year" rule of Christ is literal, and does not even begin, until after Armageddon. 

Since Jesus' symbolic thousand years, began in the first century...
 (1Pet. 3:22; Matt. 28:18; Luke 22:69; Eph. 1:20; Luke 22:69; Ps. 110:1;  1Cor. 15:25) (2Pet. 3:8; Matt. 12:8; Isa. 60:22) 
...and Jesus' time-limited "thousand year" kingdom ends, when Satan is released (Rev. 20:7; Luke 21:20) and temporarily conquers the holy ones (Rev. 13:4,7,10; 2:10) during the Great Tribulation. 
(Rev. 13:7;  2Thess. 2:4; Dan. 8:10-11; Rev. 13:10; Luke 21:24; Col. 2:8; Rev. 11:2;  1Tim. 4:1; Rev. 16:13-16; 20:7-8; 17:14; 12:7; 19:11,14; Eph. 2:6) (Acts 2:20; John 9:4; 12:35).
The timetable according to the scriptures, is quite different than the forgoing false doctrines. It is much later than anyone perceives.
My point, is that the great spiritual tribulation brings with it, great Satanic deception (1Tim. 4:1; Rev. 16:13-14; 13:11,14-15; 19:20; Matt.24:24-25). Satan's powerful signs and portents, take even the holy ones, captive (Matt. 24:24-25; Rev. 13:7,10; Col. 2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev. 11:2). 
The woes of the world since 1914, are not a result of Satan being thrown out of the hearts of the sealed... but rather, are a result of Satan's release from the abyss. After his release, he deceives (Rev. 20:7-8; 12:15)... primarily and initially, by fabricating a false fulfillment of prophecy. 
Satan's release of lying signs and portents through the false prophet and wild beast, incites a polarization. Those who embrace his lies (the "earth" Rev. 12:9,16 /"Gog and Magog"/"kings of the earth") (2Thess. 2:9-12) are brought into conflict, with those who embrace, defend, and die for, the truths of Christ 
(Rev. 17:14;  2Cor. 10:3-5; Eph. 5:11; Rev. 12:11; Mark 8:35).

This has been a crash course of how many of the established, entrenched, and present notions, are false, and must be "demolished". That is the purpose of Christ's witnesses, during Armageddon (2Cor. 10:3-5; Rev. 2:16; Heb. 4:12).

My final point is, that while others may teach that 1914 and the world's woes that followed were due to Satan being cast out of heaven... I submit to you that such woes were initiated by Satan's release from the abyss. 
I do hope, that you will research further, to attain a full background to each point of this assertion and the new perspective that it creates, fully founded upon the scriptures.
(https://pearl-anillustration.blogspot.com)

"Well then that means that this world is 99 years old then"

I don't follow your reasoning. When the Bible refers to the "world", it is referring to Satan's dominion. That began in Eden, long ago.
I hope I understand you right, if I assume you mean...
that if the kingdom of God began in 1914, then that kingdom of God would now be 99 years old. I hope that's what you mean, because I will now respond to that thought.
Well,
the Bible tells us that Jesus began his rule in the midst of his enemies in the first Century 
(Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Ps. 110:1,2;  1Pet. 3:22; Matt. 28:18; Luke 22:69;  1Cor. 15:25,24; Eph. 1:20,21,22,23).
Jesus already became king for a symbolic "thousand years", starting back then...(John 18:33,36,37; Matt. 21:1,2,3,4,5; Luke 17:21). Revelation is symbolic/presented in signs [Rev. 1:1 NKJV (see Greek); Matt. 13:34,35], and this "thousand years" is symbolic (Rev. 20:6; Eph. 2:6,10; 1:3). 
It represents 10X10X10, and means a completed witness by one of God's royal sons (Isa. 60:22; Luke 8:8; Gen. 1:28;  1Cor. 15:45,27; Acts 1:8) regarding their personal testimony of truth (3X - 2Cor. 13:1) to the existing world (10) of Satan (1John 5:19). 
This "thousand year" kingdom of Christ (John 18:37;  2Cor. 5:20;  1Cor. 4:1) is not the same as God's eternal Kingdom; which arrives when all of it's administration of 144000 and remnant of elect have been completely gathered and sealed. The Great Crowd has been gleaned from the Great Tribulation. God's kingdom commences after, all the enemies of Christ (including death), have been conquered (1Cor. 15:24-26). 

Christ's headship and kingdom is of a limited time, during which his "body" (bride) is being assembled... (Rev. 1:5,6; 19:16; Col. 1:18; Ps. 89:27; Heb. 1:9,5,6; 2:16,5; Gen. 28:14,12,13; Eph. 1:22).
(http://jacobsladder-obadiah.blogspot.com/
...and his enemies, conquered/subdued (1Cor. 15:25; Ps. 110:1-2).
In contrast, God's Kingdom is eternal (Dan. 2:44,34,35; 7:17,27; Luke 1:33;  1Cor. 15:24; Rev. 11:15; Gen. 28:14; Rom. 4:13; Gal. 3:29; Eze. 37:25), and commences after all Christ's enemies, are subdued (Rev. 12:10;  1Cor. 15:24,28)..

Two basic facts derived from these scriptures, are that Christ's time-limited kingdom of a symbolic "thousand years", began in the first century. 
It ends when Satan is released from the abyss (Rev. 20:7) for his "short period" of time (Rev. 20:3; 12:12; 17:10; Matt. 24:22;  1Pet. 1:6; Dan. 11:20; Ps. 37:10). During that period, Christ loses his authority and dominion over his royal priesthood/God's Temple 
(1Pet. 2:5,9;  1Cor. 3:16;  2Thess. 2:4; Rev. 11:2; Dan. 11:36,31; Mark 13:14; Dan. 8:10-12,24). 
God's eternal kingdom commences, after Christ and his awoken faithful, conquer Satan and his messengers in the battle of Armageddon (Rev. 3:21; Eph. 2:6; Rev. 19:11,14; 20:7,8,9; 17:14; 12:7,8,9,10,11). After that victory, Jesus hands his accomplishment over to God, after all enemies of truth and life are conquered and judged (1Cor. 15:24,25,26,27,28)....
(Matt. 25:45,46; John 3:18,19;  1Thess. 5:5; John 12:48,36; Rev. 20:12,4;  2Pet. 3:7; Rev. 11:5,3; Luke 10:16; Deut. 18:18; Eze. 2:5; Rev. 12:11; Luke 10:19;  2Cor. 10:4,5; Rev. 19:11,14,8; 17:14), 
...and Christ's bride is completely collected together 
(Eph. 1:10; 3:2; Rev. 7:4; 14:1; Isa. 2:3; Rev. 21:2; Ps. 110:2) 
(Eph. 2:20;  1Cor. 3:11 Zech. 4:9,11,12,13,14; Rev. 11:4). 

In contrast to Christ's time-limited kingdom of servant kings and priests (symbolic "thousand years");
God's eternal kingdom does not begin until the entire administration is sealed and installed. 
Neither began in 1914... obviously.

Two ways to easily disprove 1914, is to look at two scriptures. 

The first is found at Rev.12:10.

It reads:
"Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, because the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down."
So tell me....Which occurs first? Is it the kingdom...or the "casting down"?
"NOW...the kingdom...BECAUSE accuser HAS BEEN cast down".

We are clearly being told that the kingdom can begin, 
because Satan has been cast down, first.
"Jehovah's Witnesses" teach, that "the first action Christ takes as king of the new kingdom, is to cast Satan down". 
Rev.12:10 proves that this is error. 
The kingdom cannot begin until after Satan is left with no more accusations against the brothers of Christ (co-heirs of the kingdom). 
 Why? 
Because when all accusations against them have been exhausted, they are at that point...all proven faithful and sealed.
This is precisely why, the kingdom can begin then...because it now has proven as faithful, it's full number of sealed kings. Their being sealed as faithful, is the means by which Satan is conquered and cast down (Rev. 12:10,11).

Christ waits for all his sealed brothers to also conquer Satan, before GOD'S rule begins (1Cor. 15:24). 
This is when that completed kingdom administration [which was being gathered since the first century (Eph. 1:9,10,14,18; Matt. 13:37,38,39; John 4:35,36) is completed (Rev. 6:9,10,11; 20:4; 14:1; 7:4) and appointed over ALL Christ's belongings (Matt. 25:23; 24:26,27)
This takes place at the scripture we started with...Rev. 12:10. 
I hope you can see that the scriptures contain no indication of 1914. It never will, because the "seven times" used to calculate this year, are supposed to be applied symbolically, not literally (But this is another subject).

The second scripture which disproves that the kingdom began in 1914, is found at Matt. 24:3,8.
The "pangs of distress" Jesus spoke of, were actually worded "labor pains" (See original Greek of Mark 13:8 also).
"Jehovah's Witnesses" again switch the order here. 
They say that the labor pains we see occurring in the world around us, are proof that the kingdom was born in 1914. (War,famine,earthquakes,etc.)

Now stop there and think about this....
What happens first?....
Labor pains...or birth???
How can the kingdom be born at the start of labor pains, and not after???
Once again, "Jehovah's Witnesses" switch the order. 
Why are they making the arrival of the kingdom pre-mature?

This deception was prophesied to occur (2Thess. 2:1,2,3; Luke 21:8,9) 
...which is why Christ's visible arrival (and the blessings of God's completed kingdom -Matt. 13:31,32; Rev. 7:4; 14:1) seem to be delaying. 
This premature kingdom announcement, comes "as if from us" (2Thess. 2:2), meaning, "as if from" the apostles (Rev. 2:2;  2Cor. 11:13; Matt. 24:4,5,24,25). 
It is the wicked steward over God's household of anointed virgins, that expects and teaches them this premature arrival (Matt. 25:5; 24:48,49; Hab. 2:3).
Rev. 12:1,2,5* makes clear...that the kingdom's birth occurs after labor pains. That birth of the completed number of heirs (Rev. 2:26,27*), causes the kingdom of this world, 
to become the kingdom of our God, (Rev. 11:15; 12:10)
and causes God's will to take place...
as it already is in heaven 
(among those sealed -Eph. 2:6; Heb. 12:22,23; Luke 10:20),
...even to take place on earth (Matt. 6:10-11).

But we are not done.
Who has labor pains....Satan's world...or the woman in heaven? (Rev. 12:1-2)
Satan has been able to mislead everyone with events taking place in the very world he controls (1John 5:19; Luke 4:5-6; John 12:31). God's Holy Kingdom is not being born from that demonic source (Job 14:4; John 18:36). Hence, the labor pains are not of this world.
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"And Adam must still be alive"


Your logic eludes me. I don't know what Adam's lifespan has to do with the kingdom's birth, 1914, or the idea that the kingdom is 99 years into it's reign.

I would be happy to reply to this statement, if you will please clarify what you mean.

If I have misunderstood any of your question...please clarify and re-submit it, and I would be happy to re-consider.

Thank you for your good question. I hope my reply is satisfactory. The cited scriptures are where the essence of your answers lie, so please don't follow up until you have considered them.
God grant you His favor, through knowledge and peace.
Love in Christ,
Pearl

Follow-Up 

QUESTION: 
You are not a Jehovah Witness are you? You are right that they really come up with strange doctrines. It seems like that you agree with me based upon your answers. I find it very hard to believe in the 1914 doctrine. And as you can see because I was following their reasoning I was even more confused. You have shown me that I am not the only one who feels this way about their teachings.
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My answer to this is;
I was a "Jehovah's Witness" for 35 years. I was thrown out for putting truth as more important than subjection to lies, and subjection to the dominating men who spawn them. 
The faithful must be in subjection to Christ. He is the Head of his body, head of the Congregation among the faithful.
However, I hope you will allow me to correct one thing you say...
I am now one of Yhwh's Witnesses, more than I ever was.
You see...It is God who has the right to label His own witnesses.
He does this, as revealed at Isa. 43:10.
Yet taking that title for oneself, does not make it true, nor does it obligate God to accept it (Jer. 25:29).

The very scripture which "Jehovah's Witnesses" use to validate their claim, is Isa. 43:10. But a closer examination of that verse, disproves what they assume.
You see, there it is revealed that God "chooses" these individuals. These are called "chosen ones". What does He choose them to do? That answer is found in the context, at Isa. 43:21. A brief comparison of that verse, with 1Pet. 2:9,10,5 makes plain, that God's authentic witnesses, are God's "chosen" priesthood.
This is why, when I refer to those known as "Jehovah's Witnesses", I always put that title in "quotes", because this claim, is false. 
When I am referring to the genuine priesthood of "chosen" witnesses, I will simply write, Yhwh's Witnesses.
I am relieved to learn of your accurate understanding.
I hope you will pursue gaining more, resulting in life eternal.
God continue to bless you with His Spirit,
Pearl

SECOND FOLLOW-UP:

Dear Timothy,
I see that you tried to reason with "Bro DW".
 I thought since he did not get the sense of the scriptures I cited, but rather dismissed what they reveal, I would follow up for you.
He stated:
"So think about it why does the labour pains have to come before the birth on two SEPARATE women?? One's an Earthly Woman and one's Heavenly. Two separate women have two separate labour pains and two separate births. According to Pearls argument everyone on the Earth is exactly the same age, all women get pregnant at the same time and all give birth at the same time. Nonsense!!!
It's the birth of the heavenly woman that causes the labour pains for the earthly woman. The labour pains are for the "Earthly Woman" not the Heavenly one!!"

I will remind you of what Rev. 12:1,2 actually said...
"Now a great sign appeared IN HEAVEN: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth."  (https://pearl-laborpains.blogspot.com)

The labor pains, according to God, take place with a heavenly woman, not an earthly one. This does not necessarily mean that those who represent this woman on earth (but whose names are sealed in the heavens) do not have labor pains, because they do (Gal. 4:19; Luke 10:20; Isa. 4:3; Heb. 12:23)...but it does mean that these labor pains of the Kingdom's birth (it's completed number of kings), are not coming from Satan's world. (John 18:36; Job 14:4)
DW then quotes Rev. 12:13 to refer to the same heavenly woman as being on earth...
Rev 12:13 
"Now when the dragon saw that it had been hurled down to the earth,+ it persecuted the woman+ WHO GAVE BIRTH to the male child".
He is absolutely right...as I showed you in the scriptures above, that those anointed who are sealed into this covenant, become this covenant above and represent it on earth (Eph. 2:6; Gal. 4:26; Rev. 3:12; Isa. 42:6; Gal. 4:19; Luke 10:20; Isa. 4:3; Heb. 12:23).
Again, these labor pains are found within these holy ones who are of heaven (see previous scriptures)....not within Satan's world which is where "JW's" point to for the fulfillment of these "labor pains".
(The problem here is being caused by viewing "heaven" and "earth" as physical places. This fleshly view is not accurate, and prevents understanding of these symbols.)
If you would like to read about the actual woman having these labor pains, and how the scriptures identify the spiritual fulfillment of the signs Jesus gave, I hope you will consider 

DW then says...
"Can you really argue that Satan being in heaven prevented Jesus being crowned King?? How can you say that the basis of Jesus kingship is Satan being hurled to Earth?? It's nonsense!! This is what the scriptures say is the basis of Jesus Kingship"

Of course, I never said these things. As you know, I did say that while Satan retains his power, he has opposed the remnant from being sealed and crowned, which is after all, what the true arrival of the kingdom awaits (Rev. 6:9,10,11; 7:4; 14:1). 
Satan has demanded to test these ones. "Day and night" he makes accusations against them, trying to prevent their receiving the final seal of God's approval (Rev. 12:10,17; Luke 22:31; Rom. 16:20). Jesus is not awaiting his own crown, but rather the crowning of the full number of his co-rulers (Rev. 2:10; 20:4).
Poor DW is still under Satan's blinding curse, as an agent of the Abyss (Rev. 9:3,11).

As far as DW refuting the order of Satan's needing to be cast down by the chosen ones, before the kingdom victory for the completed heavenly temple (not the victory for Christ), the scriptures cannot be nullified (Rev. 12:10,11). Christ has already been ruling over his body members. But he has not been ruling over everything since 1914, without all his co-heirs. DW has totally forgotten that the kingdom administration is more than Christ (Eph. 1:9,10,11,12; 2:6; Rev. 14:1).

Satan attained authority and power when Adam and Even sinned (Gen. 3:13,16,17,18,19,23,24; Heb. 2:14;  1John 5:19). He exploited the justice of God to achieve his own purposes (Gen. 3:1,2,3,4,5,6). It was granted by God for Satan to rule this world (Rom. 13:1; John 19:11; Luke 4:5,6), until a just basis could be satisfied to remove Satan's authority and power (Gen. 3:15; Heb. 2:14).

When DW asserts that Satan does not have to be conquered in order to re-establish the Kingdom of God over all creation, and to restore creation's freedom from sin and death; he exposes his lack of understanding about the requirements of God's justice. 
1John 3:8

If it were not necessary for Satan to lose his world dominion by means of God's justice, then God must have temporarily subjected creation to cruel corruption, for nothing (Rom. 8:19,20,21,22,23,24,25). God is love (1John 4:8), and when he abandoned creation to Satan because of Adam's choice, it was according to His justice (Gen. 2:16,17). 
The establishment of God's Kingdom, and the fall of Satan, also must be by God's justice. 
So when DW says,
"How can you say that the basis of Jesus kingship is Satan being hurled to Earth??"...
he reveals that he lacks understanding as to why Jesus Christ was required to suffer and die (2Tim. 1:10; Eph. 1:7; John 1:12; Heb. 2:3,4,6,17; 9:26; Rom. 5:17).
Isa. 14:12,13,14 shows us that Satan is not merely in heaven. He has taken a ruling position of those Of heaven. This means that heavenly ones (stars Phil. 2:15; Dan. 12:3  2Pet. 3:17; Rev. 6:13; Matt. 24:29) have been made subject to him 
(Rev. 13:7,10; Col. 2:8;  1Tim. 4:1; Matt. 24:24-25; Rev. 11:2; Luke 21:24; Rev. 13:10).
Satan accomplishes this against the remnant, when he is released from the abyss. (Rev. 20:7). That is also when the reign of Jesus ends.... not when it begins!
So then, Satan being hurled from heavens, has everything to do with Jesus reigning.

Satan's fall from power requires God's justice to be satisfied...unless you believe that God is unnecessarily cruel, and wants us to suffer and die for no reason. 
It was necessary for Christ to be faithful under test, if he hoped to dethrone Satan (1John 3:8; John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11; Heb. 2:14). This conquering of Satan was necessary, before Jesus Christ could be crowned king (John 16:33; Rev. 3:21). 
The same requirement stands for all those called ones, who hope to join Christ and be sealed as a kingdom heir (Acts 14:22;  1John 2:13; Rev. 12:11; Mark 8:35;  2Tim. 2:12; Rom. 8:17; Rev. 3:21).


As you can see by the foregoing scriptures...Christ's faithfulness to death did cause Satan's fall from authority and power. Yet Christ does not rule alone. Each and every heir must also conquer Satan. It is their individual victories to be completed, that Christ and all creation await. Each member of the 144000 and great crowd/remnant, must follow the footsteps of Christ...all the way to a faithful death for truth. Each of them must overcome the temptations, tests, and persecutions by Satan, before being declared victorious by their Master, Christ.
I hope that if DW's ignorance caused you any confusion, that these new thoughts may help to clarify. We should pray for all those still captive and under the power of this Great Tribulation of spiritual test, that as many as possible will be saved from this blinding deception, which has been delivered by means of Satan, the false prophet, and the wild beast 
(Rev. 9:1-3; 16:14; 13:11-18;  2Thess. 2:4,9; Matt. 24:4,5,24,25; Rev. 13:7). 
Few will be saved from this blindness 
(Rev. 13:8; 12:9; Matt. 24:4,5,24,25; 7:13,14).



disgusting thing

"First, let's briefly unravel and define the "disgusting thing".
In history...
Deut.29:17,18; 1Kings11:4,5,6; Eze.8:10; Jer.44:4 
                       (In the original language, these verses contain "disgusting thing", 
                        although not in all versions of translation...sometimes rendered,
                        "other gods", "detestable images", "abominations".)
Ezekiel chapter 8 merits a closer scriptural look, so that we can get a fuller meaning...
Eze.8:5 shows that there is an "image of jealousy" North of the altar gate...blocking entrance to the altar of sacrifice (perfect symbolism). Eze.8:6,9 describes...not a tangible image, but rather, activities being done in God's Temple. So the Image and the activities are two separate abominations.
Now for verse 11...
"And there stood before them seventy men of the elders of the house of Israel,..Each man had a censer in his hand, and a thick cloud of incense went up."
What is the problem here?
The answer is within the account at Numbers, chapter 16.
Do you remember what was going on there? It is worth reading the whole chapter to get the point of what Ezekiel was being shown.
To highlight the point, please read...
Num.16:3,4,5,6,7,10,11,18,20,21,35,40.

Can you see that those who perform the tasks which God designates for priests only, must not be performed by "the elders of Israel"? Even the king of Israel had to obey this law, which was punishable by death (1Sam.13:9,10,11,13,14; 2Chron.23:6,7; Num.18:7).
The abomination Ezekiel describes, is the elders of Israel performing priestly duties within the Temple (offering incense)...the same offense as the rebellion against Aaron, who was chosen by God as priest. To have counterfeit priests in God's Temple is a gross offense against Him. It is an abomination for unsanctified Gentiles to offer incense for the forgiveness of the people's sins (Num.16:47).
How is this occurring today?
The NWT of Gal.6:1 reads:
"Brethren, if a man commits a sin, you who have spiritual qualifications should try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness".
"have spiritual qualifications"...
How does the WT apply this phrase? Is it not to the non-anointed/non-priest Elders?
This is due to 1Tim.3:1-13. Should these two scriptures really be linked as referring to the same group?
Let's take a closer look at these modern day "incense" burners and this scriptural interpretation.
If you look at what Gal.6:1 actually reads (it helps to check the original Greek),

it says in essence... "Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who walk/live by spirit/ who are spirit ones... should restore him gently."
This "walking/living by/being spirit", is not one of the "qualifications" for elders.
It is not in the list of qualifications for elders, at 1Tim.. chapter 3.
That is because Gal.6:1 is not referring to elders.
It is referring to those who "walk/live by/are, spirit". THESE are the ones given authority to do the "readjusting".
The Bible defines who it is, that "walks/lives by spirit"...
Gal.5:25,24 reads:
"Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires."
Compare this to Gal. 3:29:
"If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seedand heirs according to the promise."
See Romans 8:14,16,17...
"because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory."

Clearly, it is the chosen priests who are to "re-adjust" sinners in a spirit of gentleness. This is their job as symbolic incense burners within God's Temple of anointed (1Cor.3:16).
So we see that the symbolic prophecies in Ezekiel regarding the "elders of Israel" burning incense within the temple, is certainly considered by God as an abomination, as well as the rebellion of the governing priests who dare to place them there (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 2Chron.13:9).
This offense is alive and well today, as the GB of the WT has arranged for non-anointed elders to usurp God's chosen priests, perform their exclusive duties, and throw out any of them that protest this abominable disrespect toward God and His Holy Temple. (Heb.12:22,23,24,25,21,28,29)"
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Saturday, November 9, 2013

Resurrection/Judgment/Life and Death/Times

I know this is a long post. It is a revision of a past post.
I have been shown more information about this subject, and have expressed this in the additions.
It is based upon a past question. I suggest studying it in sections, so that all scriptures can be closely examined.

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READER COMMENTS AND QUESTION:
Good day sister D,
 As usual i have been following your letters with interest and i drew a couple of points from the letter you posted yesterday:-
 Matt 19:27-28
- does that mean that the apostles were resurrected when Jesus received the rulership from his Father in 33 CE and have been judging the Chosen ones since then?

REPLY:

Here is the scripture you reference...
Matt.19:27-28:
"Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”
 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
(See also, Eph.2:6; 1:3)

Your question:
Matt 19:27-28 - does that mean that the apostles were resurrected when Jesus received the rulership from his father in 33 CE and have been judging the Chosen ones since then?

  Likely Peter did not yet realize (John 16:12; Mark 8:18,21) that all disciples, especially the anointed would have to leave "everything to follow" Christ 
(Luke 9:23; 17:31-32; 9:62; Phil.3:8;  1Cor.11:1;  2Tim.3:12; John 16:12; Mark 8:34)...not just the apostles (Matt.19:27).
(When Jesus told them that they would judge the tribes of Israel, the apostles may have been thinking, that Jesus was referring to "fleshly" Israel (Gal.4:25; Luke 19:11) under the Old Covenant, due to his previous instructions (Matt.15:24; 10:5-6,7) which would soon change
(Heb.8:13; Gal.4:25,30,26,31) (Acts 10:34-35; 13:46; Gal.3:28-29; Acts 13:47).
Peter also may not have yet realized, that these twelve apostles, as such, (1Cor.12:28-29) would (upon their anointment), occupy "first" place (foundation) in the rank/"class", within the entire anointed body of Christ (Eph.2:20;  1Cor.3:10; Rev.21:14; Matt.16:18-19),
and that this "Body" (1Cor.12:27-28) would be the "Israel" Jesus was now referring to
(Matt.21:33-34,35-36,37-38,39-40,41-42,43; Acts 7:52; Heb.8:13; John 4:21,23-24; Gal.6:15-16; Rom.2:29; Gal.3:28-29,23-24,25-26,27)
Once sealed, all victorious Chosen ones (including the faithful apostles), live forever (1Cor.15:22-23; John 5:24;  1John 3:14; Rev.20:6).
All other parts of Christ's body, the "Israel of God", would be in subjection to these who are "first" in "rank"/"class"/"set".
(Luke 12:48; Heb.13:7,17;  1Thess.5:12-13; Acts 20:28; Rom.13:1,2;  1Cor.12:18)

Different ranks within the body of Christ?
Consider the scriptural meaning of the root word for Christ...
The noun Christos (christos), meaning anointed, comes from the Greek verb chrio (chrio), meaning to smear or anoint. The Septuagint (the ancient Greek translation of the Old Testament) uses this verb to describe any kind of smearing, pouring or anointing, ranging from regular armory maintenance (2Sam.1:21, Isa.21:5) to basic medical routines (Isa.1:6).

In Israel, the ritualistic act of anointing was performed to inaugurate people into certain specific offices, and only offices that had no earthly superior and were subject only to God. Thus only a High Priest (Leviticus 8:12; 4:3) and a prophet and a king would be anointed into office (1Kings 19:16). Regular priests and certain venerable objects would be consecrated by receiving a mere sprinkling of the oil (Ex.30:26, Lev.8:30).  Aaron had already received his anointing as the High Priest (Leviticus 8:12). All "anointing", is not equal, either in purpose, resulting stature, or in sanctifying power.

This "first" place of the apostles (1Cor.12:28; Eph.2:20) is demonstrated, when all anointed "parts" of Christ's body, subject themselves to the Greek scriptures, and base all they teach upon them (1Cor.3:10), which testimonies were written largely by these 12.
(Paul replaced Judas- https://pearl-whowasthetwelfthapostle.blogspot.com/)

Jesus here tells Peter, exactly how these would be "first". He says that they will "judge" the "tribes of Israel". These twelve are the main part of the "foundation" of the Holy City (Eph.2:19-20; 3:5; Rev.21:14); and they determine all those to be "built up" upon  them/their foundation (1Cor.3:9-10; Eph.2:21). Those tribes that were to come, are referred to in Rev.7:4. There it speaks of those who attain a seal to become established as part of the 12 tribes of the 144,000, built upon the "foundation" of the 12 apostles and the anointed prophets.
In speaking of this "rockmass" foundation of the twelve, Jesus said in their presence:
"And I tell you that you are Peter ("a rock"), and on this rock-mass (plural) I will build my congregation, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
(see original Greek of: Matt.16:18,19 -- "Petros" -versus- "Petra").
  The twelve tribes of spiritual Israel that were to come upon the basis of the "rock-mass" foundation, are referred to in Rev.7:4. There it speaks of those who attain a seal to become established as part of the 12 tribes of the 144,000, built upon the "foundation" of the 12 apostles and the anointed prophets.
  *(LINK: Comment beneath "Prophets in Christ's Body//Temple foundation")
  *(LINK: https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-body-of-christ.html)

As stated at Rev.7:4, these 144000 are sealed from among the twelve tribes. In other words, those being selected, are from a pool of the twelve tribes of spiritual Jews (Rom.2:29; Gal.3:29), people in Covenant with God..."Israelites" (Gal.6:15-16). They have all been offered a promise from God....That should they prove faithful and endure to the end,
(Luke 13:24; Matt.10:22;  1Cor.4:1-2; Matt.25:14,19,21,24-25,26,30),
the faithful will become sealed heirs with Christ and a permanent part of God's spiritual Temple Priesthood, to eternally serve as priests for the benefit of all creation.
(1Cor.4:1-2; Matt.24:13; Rev.3:12; Prov.9:1;  1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:22; Rev.21:2-3,10,12,14; 22:2)
(Rom.8:19;  2Cor.5:18-19,20)

Not all who are bought with Christ's blood (Rev.5:9-10) succeed in winning that race 
(1Cor.9:24-25; Luke 21:36; Matt.24:13; Mark 8:35; Rev.3:11; 7:4;  2Pet.2:1; Matt.22:14) 
(2Pet.3:17) (Luke 13:23-24) (Matt.7:13-14).
Paul understood that effort needed to be sustained. (Phil 3:12-13,14) (Matt 24:13)

Who will judge the winners of the seal? Primarily Jesus Christ (Rev.7:2; Isa.41:2; Mal.4:2; Luke 1:78; Isa.60:1; Rev.22:16; 2:28; Prov.4:18)
At Matt.19:28, Jesus tells the twelve apostles, that he shares the judging by bestowing this position upon them (1Cor.6:3). These 12 Patriarchs of spiritual Israel, choose whom they adopt for their own tribe... Just as the 12 sons of Jacob/fleshly Israel, had a tribe of sons under each of them (1Chron.2:1-2;  1Cor.15:46).
  When do the twelve begin this job of judging the candidates....which started to be chosen in the first century, up until our present time?

Jesus said that many living during his era would not see death at all (John 8:51; Ps.89:48; Matt.16:18 C; John 11:26). We are also told that many pass directly from death to life....a living condition in spirit (John 5:24;  2Cor.5:17;  1John 3:14; Rom.8:9; Eph.2:6; 1:3). Other men of faith are also mentioned as "living" to God (Mark 12:26-27). These are in the "memorial tombs".  Ecclesiastes (Ec.9:5-6) tells us that the "living" are conscious that they will die; but as for the "dead" "the remembrance of them is forgotten". Although we have been previously taught by the WT that this is applied physically,  I see it as spiritual......

"For the living know that they will die,
    but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
    and even their name is forgotten.
  Their love, their hate
    and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
    in anything that happens under the sun."

These "dead" in spirit are "forgotten" and their "knowing" has expired. I suspect they are not in the "memorial tombs" awaiting resurrection (John 5:28-29), but rather in Hades... the realm of those in darkness (Link:what-is-sheole-hades?).
As Ec.9:5-6  states..."they have no further reward" and "never again will they have a part in anything".
I strongly suspect that in God's eyes, they were spiritually dead (1Tim.5:6; Luke 15:24; Rev.3:1), and have no future reward, nor life, under God's Kingdom. (Col.2:13; Eph.2:1;  1Tim.5:6).
Those deemed as worthy of a place in God's memory, (viewed by Him as good as living); seemed capable of physical death. As Ec.9:5 stated, "the "living" are conscious that they will die".
So we see it is likely that those who were faithful before Christ, died (in every sense), although saved in God's memory for a future resurrection (when they would be "made perfect" through a future City prepared for them) (Heb.11:13,16,39-40), did indeed "die".

My point is that, up until the apostles, faithful men died and became unconscious.
What about after Jesus came?
John 11:25-26 reads...
"Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die (physically?); and whoever lives by believing in me will never die (spiritually?). Do you believe this?”

This riddle contains our answer, as to whether the apostles transferred from physical life to spiritual life, without ever dying spiritually (John 6:63;  2Cor.4:16-17,18). If so, it would enable them to judge chosen anointed, during the period in which each of those anointed ones lived.
Please also consider
John 6:47,50-51,58; John 8:51; John 5:24;  1John 3:14;  2Cor.5:17; Rom.6:4; 8:9-10,11; Eph.4:24; John 3:3;  1Pet.1:3,23; John 1:13; James 1:18... which show that not only may the apostles have never died, all faithful anointed attain this everlasting life. See also 1Cor.15:20-21,22-23,24-25,26...

"But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, those who belong to him at his presence. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death."

"The rest of the dead did not come to life until the Thousand Years has ended" (Rev.20:4-5,6) 
 Just to clarify these scriptures here:  The first resurrection applies to the "priests and kings" who were killed for their testimony and reign with Jesus for the thousand years. They were just mentioned in verse 4.  They are not to the "rest" who don't come to life until the end of the thousand years. (See: coming-to-life)
Yet death is conquered for the "firstfruits", when they come to life (Jer.2:3; James 1:18; Eph.1:13; John 1:13;  2Cor.5:17,16;  1Cor.6:17; 15:54-55,56-57; Rom.8:37; Heb.2:14;  1John 5:4).

This last enemy death, is not fully destroyed, until all faithful anointed attain to life (including the remnant Great Crowd). But a total "end" of death is not only talking about the first resurrection of the priests and kings, who are said to get life first. (Rev.20:4,6; John 5:21).

At the point at which the 144000 attain to life, the basis of life for the rest is also attained through them....just as the basis of life for them, was attained through Christ.
The basis of life for both, is a "mother" covenant (Gal.4:26,24).
The covenant for the 144,000 is Jerusalem above...the New Covenant/Promise (Gal.4:28; Rom.9:8). As the called and chosen children of that covenant (1Pet.1:23; John 1:13; James 1:18;  1John 3:9) become sealed as faithful by maturing in light and truth, they become that "free" "mother" covenant to the rest (John 8:32,36; Gal.4:26; Rom.6:18,22; 8:2). At that point, the "promise" is fulfilled.
In other words...Jerusalem above is a promise. Sealing is the promise fulfilled and materialized. That fulfilled covenant of 144000 "new creation" members, are the agents of the "mother" Covenant, to the rest of Creation, serving as priests even while they are yet on earth (Mal.2:7). These become the bride of Christ...the covenant of the kingdom (Luke 17:21), to produce the next generation of living seed... the new earth....(the "rest" Rev.20:4-5,6;  1John 2:2)

We know that Christ's "presence" with his anointed, started in the first century and was promised to last until the end (see Matt.28:20 B)...
"And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
But there is a culmination of this harvest of the earth 
(Rev.14:16; Matt.25:31-32; 16:27; 24:31; 13:40-41)
(Read again:
"But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits (during the thousand Years); then, those who belong to him at his presence (remaining ones/remnant/Great Crowd)." 
(1Cor.15:23; Rev.20:6)
Christ's presence near the "end of the age" will be when he comes / returns, to settle accounts with his servants...the final judgment. This will be during a time of unprecedented distress, and many will fall. (Matt.24:3,9-10; 7:13-14)

Since the first century, Christ is ruling (Ps.110:1-2;  1Cor.15:25,24) with his chosen brothers (Eph.2:6,10; 1:3; Luke 22:29; 12:32; Luke 10:18-19,20). This kingdom is limited in scope ("a 'thousand years'"), while these are appointed over "a little". When the kingdom of the world becomes the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ (Rev.11:15; Dan.7:9,18,22),
and when God's will is done on earth as it is in "heaven" (Matt.6:10), then those who prove faithful over this little (Matt.25:14; Luke 16:10; Matt.25:23; Luke 19:17), will be appointed over all Creation (Ps.2:7-8,9; Rev.2:26-27; 3:21; Dan.7:18; Ps.37:11,29; Heb.2:5,16)
(Gen.28:13-14; Rom.4:13; Gal.3:29; Rev.22:1-2).
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From all these foregoing scriptures, it would seem that anointed faithful are transferred into living spirit, even while they are still living their physical lifetimes (John 5:24). When their physical bodies die, their spirit endures... they are "changed" to inhabit an eternal spirit, "in the twinkle of an eye", and can "never die" (John 11:26).
Now note 2Cor.5:18-19,20 within it's context:
"17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, the new is here. 18 Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and He has committed to us the word of reconciliation. 20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God"

To "be reconciled" is to be forgiven of sin and to live (Rom.5:10-11).
If those who have already received this life first; appeal to yet others in a "ministry of reconciliation" to God for "the world" through these "ambassadors for Christ",
does not the second resurrection occur when that reconciliation occurs?

Remember what Jesus said at Matt.10:40-41?
Those who accept the reconciliation through it's agents, receive the reward of it's agents...
forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, and life! (Matt.10:41)
Remembering that Revelation is symbolic, this first and second resurrection is depicted as occurring as first one, and then the other. This is true, and yet as part of Revelation, must also be symbolic. How so?

The anointed priests must be saved first, through the word planted in their heart (Luke 8:11,15; Matt.13:23; James 1:25,23-24). That word must be cultivated inside that heart (Matt.13:8,23; James 1:21; John 17:17; Eph.5:26). This cleansing of the heart by the Word of God, is the circumcision of the heart by spirit (Rom.2:26,28-29; Matt.23:26; Deut.30:6; Jer.4:4; Col.2:11). This occurs as the word ("seed") is cultivated and brought to maturity 
(James 1:21-22,25; Eph.1:13; 4:22,13; Rom.6:17;  2Tim.1:13; 2:2) (Heb.5:8-9; 12:2,1,9,28; Eph.4:13-14,15;  1Pet.2:2,21).
Once maturity is attained, one becomes a representative (ambassador) of the word ("seed") in the world (Matt.13:26,37-38; Mark 4:28-29; Rev.14:15; John 4:35-36; Ec.11:6). Those who accept that message which is being offered by the mature sons of the kingdom (John 13:20; 20:23,21; Matt.16:19), THEN receive life, secondarily.
Can you see the primary and secondary receiving of life???
It is symbolic, in that the primary does not all occur at once...
neither the secondary occurs all at once.
It is symbolic.
Whenever a chosen one matures, testifies to truth and is sealed; living water issues forth from that one (John 7:38-39; Rev.22:1-2,17; 19:9; Matt.22:9-10).
Those who accept the invitation, can also receive life, by partaking of the spiritual feast of truth. It does not matter when in literal time these ones come to life.
In this way, the "first" and "second" resurrections/"awakenings", are symbolic....during the "gathering together" of the things of the "heavens" (anointed firstfruits) and the secondary harvest... the things "of earth" (Eph.1:10; 3:2; Col.1:20) --all creation -Rom.8:19,21...by means of truth.

I hope that readers can discern, that the bestowing of life occurs at one's opportunity to receive it, no matter what year it is. The "seven times"/"seven trumpets" are not literal years, but rather, a spiritual progression from spiritual babe to the full grown stature of Christ....
the seed in the heart brought to maturity during one's lifetime...
the ministry of truth that results...
and the life that results to others because of that ministry.
The literal years during which this occurs, in the lives of the ambassadors or their recipients, matters not. In this way, it is true to the book of Revelation, in that this "first" and "second" resurrection, is symbolic.

Note 1Cor.15:50-55...
"50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (not the 1000 year kingdom of Christnor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
       LINKS: ("Two Kingdoms") (when-do-anointed-become-kings?
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51 Listen, I tell you a mysteryWe will not all sleep" (1Thess.5:5-6; Rom.13:11;  1Pet.1:13; Luke 12:35) "but we will all be changed"— (Rom.12:2; Eph.4:23-24; 5:1; Matt.5:48;  2Cor.7:1; Heb.12:23) 52 "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound" (Rev.11:15; 12:10-11; Isa.27:13; Dan.2:44; 7:27; Rev.10:7; Ps.110:1;  1Cor.15:24), "the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 
53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 
54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”
55 “Where, O death, is your victory?
    Where, O death, is your sting?”

Jesus said "and whoever lives by believing in me will never die". The "last enemy" death, is conquered on an individual basis. Yet the time will come, when the defeat of all death, finally arrives.
I see three groups....
1. Those already born of "incorruptible seed" (spiritually living 144000
    (1Pet.1:23; John 1:13; James 1:18;  1Pet.1:3;  1John 3:9) will never die,
    but have already "passed over, from death to life". Yet according to Jesus, they must continue
    to "believe in" him, exercising that faith (Rom.12:6; James 2:17,24,26).
2. There are also those anointed, who were conquered by Satan's final test (Rev.13:7,10), 
    and must be rescued and their sins, redeemed. These are redeemed after Christ's "Thousand Years" 
    to receive the second resurrection (see Link: Coming-to-Life).
3. Those who have faith in Christ, but have not been anointed by Holy Spirit... These must 
    attain their spiritual birth, by accepting the reconciliation to God being offered by it's ambassadors        (Mal.2:7;  2Cor.5:20; John 13:20)... who are their new spiritual mother and father (Gal.4:26; Isa.9:6).
    Jerusalem above who is the Bride of Christ, is mother to unsealed anointed as well. 
    All must learn by listening to the cornerstone and foundation which preceded them.
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Why then does Paul refer to the first resurrection as occurring "at the last trumpet"?
We must remain open to the possibility, that this may not occur according to human physical timing.

The "seven trumpets" have a relation to seven eyes/spirits of God, the seven angels, and the seven times/stages of refinement. These things occur in the life of each anointed who become sealed, regardless of the era in which they live. These "times" represent a gauntlet of testing and a growth in understanding, refinement, maturity, enlightenment, activities, and purging of sinful flesh. The last trumpet is when each one conquers Death (1Cor.15:26,51-52,53-54,55,57-58; James 1:12;  2Tim.4:8).
I personally remain open to this arrival of the "seventh trumpet", as being within the heart of each sealed one.....just as the arrival of the daystar is (2Pet.1:19;  1Pet.1:22-23; Luke 17:21); which according to vision given me, occurs at the end of the "seven times". (1Thess.4:13-14,15-16,17-18)

Each "time" carries with it, a symbolic "milestone" of accomplishment of requirements, within the heart of each anointed one, until they reach the full maturity of Christ (Eph.4:13; Heb.5:14;  1Cor.2:6) and are sealed. The sealing of the final remnant, will cause these sevens to be manifested with finality, and there will finally be observable consequences to the world around us....just as the seven trumpets finally impacted the city of Jericho (Joshua 6:8,20)

So...how did the twelve apostles judge each chosen anointed one throughout time?

The anointed attain spirit life now (Rom.8:9;  1John 3:14; Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22-23; Jude 1:8;  2Pet.2:10).
How do the apostles judge each anointed one that has followed them?
We are told about this, at Rev.20:4,11-12,13-14,15; Dan.7:9,22; Jude 1:14-15; Matt.25:40,45-46.
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The apostles have laid the foundation of the Christian faith, based upon Christ...the "cornerstone" of God's spiritual Temple (Matt.21:42; Acts 4:11).
Those who obey the "Good News" of this kingdom authority of Christ, the apostles and anointed prophets, are built up on that foundation (Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Pet.2:5,9).
Like Noah, Daniel, and Job (Eze.14:14); all faithful anointed establish a record of righteous obedience to God in imitation of Christ (Rev.19:8), despite Satanic adversity (Luke 22:31; Acts 14:22; John 16:20). Like Noah, they provide a means of salvation from Satanic flood (Rev.12:15,6; 11:3). So we can learn much from looking at how Noah himself, actually judged a whole world...
Heb.11:7 reads,
"By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith."
(Gen.6:22; Eze.33:5; Phil.2:15; Rev.20:4)
By faithful deeds, those loyal to God establish an attainable standard.
Those who fail to meet that standard, are judged by those who succeeded.
Can you see this?

Let's return to Christ's words...
"Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?
 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne (Matt.28:18; Luke 22:69-70; Matt.26:64; Ps.110:1;  1Cor.15:25), you who have followed me (Luke 22:28; Mark 8:34; Rev.14:4) will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." (Matt.19:27-28)

I believe that every faithful one, judges those who face the same trials and tests, yet prove unfaithful (1Cor.6:2).
This is why all those who prove faithful, are symbolically seen on thrones, rendering judgment (Rev.20:4). As we know, "twelve" thrones, represent the power and authority of the Truth
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and the "tribes of Israel" are those who are called and chosen, but not yet sealed as faithful slaves of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.7:3-4; Matt.22:14; Luke 13:24; Matt.7:13-14,21).
These are "asleep", unripe, immature, undeveloped, and not yet sealed.
Such ones are naturally judged by those who have brought the word to perfection and have "produced a crop"...willing to lose their very lives for Christ. (John 15:8; Matt.24:45; Mark 8:35; Rev.6:9,11; 12:11)
There is the patience of God for these. But time is running out. (Luke 13:5-6,7-8,9; Rev.6:13; Matt.21:19).
The basis of judgment for all....are the scriptures we already have...the Word of God...the scrolls which are being "opened"/understood (Rev.20:12; Luke 24:32,45) in the time of the end (Dan.12:4,8-9,10) are not "new".
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Everyone,
no matter when they lived,
will then symbolically be brought into judgment by the Bible...once the last of the Chosen prove faithful to those same teachings. We return to Rev.20:11-12,13-14,15.
Any not found obedient to the Word of God...after the full number of faithful have been found beyond accusation (Rev.12:10-11)
the rest will be consigned to "the lake of fire".
The Lake of Fire is a symbol for the Word of God in a condemnatory capacity
(Jer.23:29; Jer.5:14NIV ; Hosea 6:5; Rev.11:5; Matt.10:20).

By God's Words, we are either proved obedient and righteous for life (Rev.3:5),
or by comparison, we are proved disobedient, and unrighteous (2Thess.1:8-9).
Those who fail to be reconciled to God, are not written in the Lambs scroll of Life (Rev.20:12,15; Rev.13:8).
What does this mean for them?
All are already under decay, corruption, and death. We all have bodies that degrade and die.
Only those who are saved by means of the word of life, have a future.
God does not have to kill anyone. They are already dying...
"enslaved to corruption" (Rom.8:20-21,22; 5:12).
Only those who love God, love others (their neighbors), and obey His Word and arrangement for salvation, "pass over from death to life"....
Matt.22:36-37,38-39,40;  1John 3:14; John 5:24
...not at some future time,
but right now (John 4:35;  2Cor.6:2;  2Pet.3:8; Rev.20:4)!  Now is the acceptable time. (2Cor.6:2)

The apostles "judge" those who enter into the Holy City.
(Matt.16:19; John 20:23 -keys to kingdom)
(Rev.21:12-13,14,21 -twelve entrance gates to Holy City, with an "angel" over each gate).

The sealed members of the Holy City "judge" all others called and chosen.
(Matt.25:45,46;  1John 3:14; John 13:35;  1Cor.6:3;  1John 4:20-21; Matt.24:49; Rev.6:10; Matt.23:34-35; Rev.18:24; 17:6) (LINK)
This authority to judge their peers, is a natural result of their own faithfulness.
If any of these are unfaithful to Christ's Law of Love, they themselves are judged by the faithful in comparison (1Cor.6:3).

This is the same way in which Christ's faithfulness to God, during his lifetime on earth; judged Satan.
So too, those anointed who walk by spirit, judge the world, who walk by flesh 
(John 16:7-8,9-10,11-12,13; Luke 10:18; John 12:31) (1Cor.6:2;  1John 2:17).

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