Friday, June 17, 2016

When do the anointed, become kings?

Here is a link to a more recent post about this topic: (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2021/10/reigning-during-thousand-years.html)
and:
---- (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2022/04/when-do-anointed-144000-reign-as-kings.html)
Below is my response to a post at the Forum., about Mark 13:9; Matt.10:18 and Luke  21:12.
I am posting it here so that readers can consider the cited scriptures with the advantage of the pop-up function.
(I will post my response to the previous comments of the Blog post, when I am able.)
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Good post JD. Thank you for putting it up.
I would like to respond to a few points you make, adding to them what spirit has shown.


"What stood out, was that there would be "governors" in the last days."

The "governers" among the anointed, are not unique to the last days only.
Some are chosen within the body of Christ, to "govern" those priests who are still immature (1Cor. 4:1-2,15; Gal.4:2; Eph.4:13; Prov.8:16). They are the "stewards"/governers, of Christ's contemporary household (Luke 12:42). The mature and experienced are set over the management and "guidance" of the household, by God and Christ (1Cor. 12:28), to be a foundation of faith (1Cor. 3:8-10; Eph.2:19-20), according to the "provisions" they serve (Luke 12:42-43).
The problem arises, when such a governer/steward, abuses the authority he was given (Luke 12:45,47; Mark 10:42-43), by abusing his fellow slaves with beatings, and a lack of proper food at the proper time time. According to prophecy; during the Great Tribulation, an abusive steward would arise to join forces with Gentiles, and by means of that Gentile force, dominate all of God's Temple priesthood and household. That governing body would empower the Gentile force with an aura of divinity, even authorizing it to "kill" any who refuse to worship it. (Rev.13:14-15; John 16:2)
That steward... that governing body, would be the ones needing a witness from Christ, through his faithful ones. They are mentioned in the book of Revelation, where Christ sends them a message concerning their need for repentance. That message would be delivered by the faithful who in the time of the end, correctly interpret Christ's disclosure of what that revealed message, contains,
and to whom it is directed.
Yet as you stated, the "Governing Body" themselves have clarified their position, not only within God's anointed household, but within prophecy; by the adoption of that title.
Yet they are proving to be "wicked stewards". Not only are they failing to receive and serve God's household, truths from Christ...
they prevent any other slave or steward, from doing so...
and "kill" any who faithfully attempt to (by means of the Gentile Beast, whom they direct, and have empowered).
They have accepted a rulership based in Satan's world and power...
not based in the authority, truth, and power of Christ.

Of course, you rightly identify the "Gentiles" as being those not anointed, who now trample God's Temple stones (1Pet. 2:5,9-10; Matt.24:2; Rev.13:7; 11:2; 2:9).
They are also depicted as the collective "Wild Beast" from the sea (Rev.13:1; Isa.57:20)... and the "abomination of desolation" that "stands in the holy place" (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31;  2Thess. 2:4).
These too, receive a witness (Matt.10:18; John 16:2; Rev.11:7). These too, can be viewed, as counterfeit "kings" (Rev.9:7,3; Isa.23:8; Rev.13:15;  2Thess. 2:4).

"The above verse also says that "kings" will receive a witness. When the GB are removed, it is by "kings" who are Anointed who back the organisation, thinking that it is "Gods organisation"... So before they are Kings, when they remove the Harlot...Jesus is saying, these will receive a witness. This can include 2 time frames within these Anointed. BEFORE they act and become "kings” for a short period...and after they act and remove the Harlot. This would definitely include when they have made themselves “kings” by removing the Harlot.
Are those who are "branded" (666) amongst Anointed receiving a witness...even before they become "kings"? Christ says it will happen. It IS happening. Would he want those of his bride to be warned before they become "kings" so they are not sealed outside Gods kingdom?
 
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I hope to add to these thoughts, by clarifying when the anointed become kings....
what they can choose to do with that royal authority...
how they receive a kingdom,
and how they become sealed into their kingdom of choice.
Of course, understanding those things helps us to grasp more about who these "kings" are, who need a witness to be given them, for the sake of Christ.

We have wrongly been taught by the wicked steward, that the anointed do not become kings until they literally die, and are resurrected as spirits in heaven.
Regarding the anointed "kings" still captive inside the organization,
  we do well to clarify when they became kings, and receive the witness of Mark 13:9.

Are they given a witness as kingsbefore they reign as kings with the Beast?
Yes. They can receive a witness as kings, even before they are sealed as rulers within the kingdom of the Beast.
By examining the following scriptures, we can see when anointed begin ruling, and when the unfaithful receive their witness of revealed truths.

First, let us examne if an anointed one is a king, even before receiving a kingdom.

Rev.17:12 “The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast. 13 They have one purpose and will give their (existing) power and authority to the beast."
Notice that receiving a kingdom with the Beast, is through a surrendering of their existing royal authority and power, to the Beast.
Their kingship, IS their authority and power. Do anointed have "authority and power", before they receive their kingdom of choice?

   "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. Nevertheless, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." (Luke 10:19).
(Ps.91:13-15; Mark 16:17-18)
   Rev.1:5 "and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, 6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen."
   Rev.5:9 "And they sang a new song, saying:
“You are worthy to take the scroll
    and to open its seals,
because you were slain,
    and with your blood you purchased for God
    persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God,
    and they reign on the earth.”
(Rev.20:6 -- "Thousand Years --When?") ( 2 -- Thousand years - When?)

Like Christ while on earth, our present kingdom position is one of truth (John 18:37; Luke 21:15; Matt.10:20; Luke 10:16).
  Do these kings, already have a "crown"? Yes (James 1:12)... a crown they must guard, and not allow to be taken from them (Rev.3:11).

Jesus said that "more" kingship would be given to those, who already "had"... IF they kept and were proving faithful with, the "little" royal authority and power they were first given (Matt.13:12; Rev.3:8).
THIS IS WHERE THE FORK IN THE ROAD, IS.
There are those given royal authority and power who are faithful. Let us see what the faithful do, with their royal authority ("crowns").
   Rev.4:10-11 "the twenty-four elders fall down before the One seated on the throne, and they worship Him who lives forever and ever. They cast their crowns before the throne, saying: 11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for You created all things; by Your will they exist, and came to be.”
Can you see that those who are faithful, use their "crown" (royal authority and power) in the service and worship of God?
While kings, they submit completely, to God and Christ. They credit Him with their receiving life, with salvation (Rev.7:10), and that God alone deserves their fear and praise (Rev.14:7; 15:4; 19:5).
   Rev.5:13-14 "And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever.” 14 And the four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped."
Notice that the faithful... "fall down and worship" God and the Lamb. These use their royal authority and power, in the service of God and Christ... their over-Kings.


Notice that an anointed king, can do the same, toward Satan... “All these things will I give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” (Matt.4:9)
That is exactly what the unfaithful "kings", do....
   "People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority (crowns) to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?” (Rev.13:4) (Rev.13:1)


Rather than ascribe honor to God (Ps.113:5) ("Michael"), those who worship the Beast (Rev.13:7-8) credit IT with salvation and divinity, deserving of their fear, service, and praise.
These mislead and captive anointed (Rev.13:7,10) have surrendered their "crowns", to the Beast.
Please notice the contrast of the faithful anointed (Rev.4:10-11), to the unfaithful......
"The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive one hour of authority as kings,(stewardship), along with the beast. 13 These kings have one purpose: to give their power and authority to the beast." (Rev.17:12-13)

Anointed kings can choose to reign with Christ (Rev.3:21) or with the Beast (Rev.17:12).
That choice is made, when they surrender and sacrifice their royal authority and power (crown/life) to their master of choice.
Once they exercise their royal authority and power...
 either serving in subjection to God and Christ,
 or in subjection to Satan and his organization...
they choose a kingdom.
   Once the Harlot is removed (and those who have given their royal authority to the Beast, begin to rule wth it)
all "kings" are sealed as royal servants/angelic messengers, of God,
  or of Satan (Rev.12:7; 17:12-14).
Whichever kingdom they choose (Christ's, or Satan's), they will receive full rulership/stewardship with it, as they serve it's "king of kings" (Rev.9:11; 19:16).

So to conclude,
the anointed "kings" who receive a testimony from Christ, through his seventh angel (Rev.22:6,16),
are kings "with a little power" (Matt.25:14; Mark 13:34; Rev.3:8; Luke 16:10; Matt.25:23) before they receive their kingdom.

They will take their "crown" (royal authority/stewardship) and either exercise it in the service of Christ, or in the service of Satan's Beast.
The Beast's kings will receive a witness, both before (as a warning to repent -- Rev.3:19; Mal.3:1-3)
and after they have chosen a master/recipient of their crown.
They are sealed as horns/kings of the Beast (Rev.17:12), or kings/horns of Christ (Rev.5:6; 1:20). After all are sealed,
the testimony of Truth will be one of condemnation.
  
Ps.110:2; Heb.2:8-10; 12:28; Rom.8:17; Ps.8:4-6; Dan.7:9-11,12-14,18-20,21-23,24-25,26-27; Rev.5:6-7,9-10,11-13; 11:2; 12:10; 13:2,5-7; 8:13; 9:12; 12:12; 20:10-13; John14:21; 17:24; 14:3-4,5-6; 17:24; 1John3:2; John17:22; 1:14)

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