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Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Jew or Gentile?


What is a Jew?
What is a Gentile?
The answers to these questions are easy, if we are viewing things physically.
The nation of Israel is historically known as having a culture that centered around their worship of the Biblical God. Physically, a Jew is physically from the lineage of Abraham, and belongs to the physical "Nation" of Israel. 
The nations/Gentiles are historically known as a culture that centered on conquest, power, control, and riches... while many paid homage to a variety of gods. Physically, a Gentile is physically from lineage other than physical Jew (Oriental, Celtic, Indian, Latino, Slavic, etc.). 

    

What about spiritual nationality? 
Is there such a thing?

At John 8:33,39, Abraham's physical descendants, claimed to be of Abraham's lineage.
This may have been true in a physical sense, but take note of what Jesus disclosed...
John 8:37,39,40,41,42,43,44.
So apparently, Jews can lose Abraham as their father. Obviously, Jesus was not talking about losing a genetic identity. He well knew that the Jews were Abraham's physical descendants (John 8:37).
Abraham was a man of Faith. This was the reason he received the promise of blessings for him and his seed (Rom.4:13).
Those who imitate Satan, become Satan's seed. The Jews who imitated Satan in lying and deadly intent, lost Abraham as their father.

Can physical Gentiles, gain Abraham as their father?
Those who imitate the faith of Abraham (Rom.4:13,16; Gal.4:28; 3:7; Heb.11:8; 13:13; Rev.18:4), are "grafted in" to the promises given Abraham, becoming his seed (Gal.3:29; Matt.3:9; Rom.9:6,8,7; (Heb.11:17; John 3:16) Rom.8:28,29,30). (Isaac is fulfilled in Christ)
These physical Gentiles, can become spiritual sons of Abraham (through imitation of his courageous faith)...spiritual Jews...receiving the "circumcision of the heart" (Rom.2:28,29; Phil.3:3; Col.2:11).

If a physical Gentile can become a spiritual Jew...
Can a physical Jew become a spiritual Gentile?
Well we have already seen that, at John 8:39,44; But please consider these words:
Jer.9:25,26; Acts 7:51; 13:46; Eze.31:18; 32:19; Rom.2:25; Amos 9:7,8,9,10; Rom.11:7,19,20,21,22

The scriptures teach us that there are Jews....
physical Jews,
 and spiritual Jews (through faith in Christ).
The scriptures teach us that there are Gentiles...
physical Gentiles who may come to be considered spiritual Jews by God,
and spiritual Gentiles, who are not considered God's Nation,
even if they are, physical Jews.

Review:
There are four groups:
Physical Jews (Physical descendants of Abraham
                         -lost their inheritance unless they accept Christ.
                         -Matt.21:43; Acts 13:46; John 3:36; Luke 19:41,42,43,44;
                          Matt.23:37,38; Deut.31:17; Micah 3:4; John 7:1; Matt.27:23,24,25)
Spiritual Jews  (Spiritual descendants of Abraham-heirs of the promises given Abraham 
                          -Gal.3:29; John 1:47; Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1,5; Jer.31:33; 7:23)
Physical Gentiles  (Physical descendants "of the Nations" outside physical Israel-
                             Can become spiritual Jews. -Rev.5:9,10; 7:4)
Spiritual Gentiles  (Not anointed, hearts uncircumcised by Spirit, unwashed from sin,
                            -Can be a physical Jew.
                            -awaiting life's provisions through acceptance of kingdom ambassadors
                            -John 13:20;  1Cor. 4:1; Mal.2:7;  2Cor. 5:20)
                            These are NOT PERMITTED to serve as anointed priests/"Jews" (Rev.2:9)
                             in Christ's Temple arrangement (2Chron. 23:6;  1Cor. 3:16;  1Pet. 2:5,9),
                            although the non-anointed elders today, do so.
                            (Mark 13:14; Eze.44:6,8,9;  2Chron. 13:9; Matt.24:15,16)
                            (see pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com)

The little flock is thought to be all anointed, while the "other sheep" are thought to be not anointed.
This is not correct.
The little flock are the fleshly Jewish anointed, and the "other sheep" are the fleshly Gentile anointed.
When Jesus said I have other sheep and these too I must bring in (to be one flock -John 10:16), he said this because Jesus and the apostles only "called" (Rom.8:29-30) fleshly Jews to inherit the kingdom during his 3 1/2 year ministry (Matt.15:24; 10:6), out of a preference which resulted from the promises given to Abraham (Rom.11:28). When as a race, they rejected and slaughtered God's Son (Matt.21:38,39,40,41,42,43; 23:37,38;  1Chron. 28:9; Matt.27:24,25; 23:35,37), the deficiency of the new anointed priesthood (1Pet. 2:9,10; Rev.5:9,10), was compensated for by fleshly Gentiles who would "produce fruit when due". This is still God's requirement for those to be His Nation (Matt.21:43; John 15:8; Matt.24:45,46). (Acts 13:46; 3:25,26; Rom.15:8; 1:16; John 4:20,21,24; Luke 24:47; Acts 11:9,12,15,17,18; 2:33; 10:45,46,47). After the Jews rejected God's Son, He turned to the Nations to make up the lack of the "full number" (Rom.11:25; 9:18; Rev.14:1; Heb.12:22,23; Luke 10:20).
Are physical Jews today producing such true fruit, due to their unity with Jesus Christ? (John 15:4,5; 17:21) If not, then they are still not the nation producing that fruit when due. This means that the Kingdom, still does not belong to them (Matt.21:43).
It was not until later that Gentiles were also being brought in by holy spirit, which spirit was sent because Christ returned to the father and sent it (John 14:28,16; 16:7). This was how he fulfilled his words..."these also I must bring in" (John 10:16).

These anointed (both fleshly Jew and fleshly Gentile) became one anointed flock. They were no longer separated by their flesh
(Eph.2:11-22 --(click on, to read);  Gal.3:26,27,28,29; Acts 10:34,35; Gal.6:15,16), but rather all together became spiritual Jews, the "Israel of God", God's new nation under a New Covenant (Heb.8:13) to become New Jerusalem.

The designation "little flock" no longer matters, because it has been almost two thousand years since that little Jewish flock was gathered together with the other sheep into one flock. There is no longer "Jew" or "Greek" (Gal.3:28), but rather, the temple of God, made of all nations, tribes people and tongues (Rev.5:9,10) chosen to become the New Israel of God (Rev.7:4). One's flesh no longer matters, because it is through Faith, that the kingdom promises given to Abraham are inherited (Gal.3:29,28; Heb.6:12)

Understanding the distinction between spiritual Jews and spiritual Gentiles, is essential, in understanding the identities of Revelation. In symbolic terms, both "Jews" and "Gentiles", are depicted.
Understanding "what will soon take place" is not possible, if the details pertaining to those two identities, are not discernible.
There is a "Gentile" Beast, from the "sea" (Rev.13:1; Isa.57:20; Rev.13:8,7; 11:2),
and there is a benefactor of the "sea Beast"... a lamb-like lying Beast ("Jew"), from the "earth" Rev.13:11,15; 19:20 who has broken her marriage covenant with God (Isa.1:21; Jer.23:10; Hosea 6:7; Isa.28:15).
Once we accurately perceive these two allies, we can understand how the "Man of Lawlessness"/"abomination of desolation" (2Thess. 2:4; Rev.13:18), received "his" power over God's Temple (Eph.2:20-22;  1Cor. 3:16-17;  1Pet. 2:5) and Holy Place (Matt.24:15-16; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10,7) (Dan.11:31-33; 8:24-25;  2Thess. 2:8,3).
("Two Beasts") ("Iron and Clay") (disgusting-thing/abomination)

I hope this explanation helps to make other posts clearer.

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Monday, October 3, 2016

Where are the Wild Beasts?

Some readers ask why my writings are focused on "Jehovah's Witnesses" as relevant to prophecy. They assume, that I am pointing to the members of the "Watchtower" as the fulfillment and manifestation of Revelation's prophetic scenario.

By using a brief illustration, I hope to clarify my identification of God's people today, and why readers might conclude that I am referring to "Jehovah's Witnesses" within my writing and comments.

Please imagine that there is a treasure of gold coins inside a small wooden chest.
Someone points to the chest and says, "There is the treasure".
Without elaboration of detail, we may assume that the wooden chest, is the treasure being referred to.

In the same way,
"Jehovah's Witnesses" are not the identity that I am referring to.
Yet within "JW's", are genuine anointed ones. 
They too, are under the Governing Body (wicked steward/Harlot)...
they too are dominated by local Congregational "elders". 
They too, have been mislead (1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8).
Satan has hidden a clear interpretation of Revelation's identities, by camouflaging God's people, in among a mislead throng of spiritual Gentiles (earth-swallows) (Jew/Gentile).

God's genuine people are clarified, at 1Pet. 2:5,9-10 and Isa.43:1,10,12,21;  1Pet. 2:9.
Satan's release from the abyss has freed him to summon the Wild Beast "from the sea"/Gentiles (Rev.13:1,4,7-8).
As you can see from Rev.13:7, it is able to overcome God's genuine people, just as Daniel and the gospel writers also prophesied.
That captivity (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10) and threat of death (Rev.13:10,15; 12:10-11; 11:7; 6:9-11; Mark 8:35) reaches all God's people, through it's three agents (Rev.16:13; 17:14). 
We know those three, as 
  Satan, 
  the "Watchtower" organization, 
  and it's governing body.

Backed by Satan's realm and power of deception and death (the abyss -Rev.9:11; Isa.33:1) and symbolically, given it's "key" (Rev.9:1; 8:10-11) to open demonic deception, lies, signs and portents;
the false prophet "breathes" spirit into it's Beast, giving it a false veneer of divine inspiration (Rev.13:15; 19:20)... which enables it to "kill" under the guise of being God's instrument to judge (John 20:22-23; Matt.16:19).
No part of God's "inhabited homeland"...
       (His "field under cultivation" (1Cor. 3:9)/His people) 
       (Translated as "earth" from the Greek: "oikou": inhabited plot of ground/homeland -John 14:23
       --"make our home with them"/"inhabit them"  Luke 8:15; Eph.2:22)
...will escape this great test/Great Tribulation. **(Grt-Trib-why?)

If you read the previous link**, you will be able to consider the source of the Great Tribulation, according to scripture.
It is by means of the agents of the abyss/Hades (Rev.9:3,10; 11:7)-- summoned forth by "wormwood"...     (LINK(tails/stingers/scorpions)) ---- (LINK(Sheol/Hades)
...that this great test of deception, reaches God's people and takes them captive (Rev.13:7,10; Luke 21:24).

Jesus said that this tribulation, would come in on "all the inhabited earth" (Luke 21:22,32,35-36), just as the "Man of lawlessness" (2Thess. 2:4; Rev.13:18) comes in upon all of God's Temple (1Cor. 3:16;  1Pet. 2:5,9). Every "stone" (1Pet. 2:5) will be thrown down and trampled (Luke 21:6; Rev.11:2; Dan.11:36,31) by Satan's alliance of Iron and Clay. 
All of God's remnant of people ("the remaining ones of the woman's seed" -Rev.12:17) would be made subject, under "the abomination of desolation"/"operation of error". None of these would escape dominance by Satan's agents (Rev.13:1,11,7).
(IRON: Gentile Wild Beast "from the 'sea' ", and
CLAY: adulterous harlot/false prophet/wicked steward "from the 'earth' " -Rev.13:11).
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Since none of God's people escape this final test (Amos 9:9; Luke 22:31; Isa.34:4 > Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3), one must question the single location and entity, where such a deceiving power exists today, against God's chosen anointed. (Rev.13:7; Matt.24:4-5,24-25).
I can testify, that no religion other than "Jehovah's Witnesses" has been so successful in projecting an Image, as "God's spirit-directed organization",
and as a result, 
been able to captivate and subjugate genuine chosen ones... encapsulating them under a Gentile dominion.  (abom-desolation) (Op-of-Error) (Jew/Gentile)
Remembering that the false prophet is depicted as a "two-horned" "lamb" from the "earth"...    
       (inhabited/occupied homeland) (world-earth-home),
...my personal studies and spirit have made clear to me, that this leadership is sourced from within God's own priesthood...
  ...an anointed one... 
appointed by Christ to lead and spiritually feed his household of servants (Luke 12:42,35; Rev.8:10-11; 9:1; 13:11,15; 19:20).
  That leader "fell" from grace (2Pet. 3:17; Rev.9:1; 2:5), poisoned it's living waters (Heb.12:15; Deut.29:18; Rev.8:11) (fallen-star) (Locust-scorpions-Abaddon), 
and directed those of Christ's household under them, into idolatry (Rev.2:20; 13:15,8,7,10).

I don't know of any other religious entity, that has as it's leadership, genuine anointed ones,
acting as steward over other genuine anointed.
In fact, there are so many prophetic details which the "WT" organization fulfills,
  that it grows more difficult with increasing study and understanding,
  to miss the precise correlations between prophesy, and the anointed within "Jehovah's Witnesses".
   
To return to our illustration,
the identification of God's prophetic people in the time of the end,
is not synonymous with the organization and members of "Jehovah's Witnesses".
Drawing the conclusion that they are, is understandable...
  because the actual central subject of such prophecies, are within that very organization, 
are under it's dominion, and are contained captive within it's realm.

For more information about this subject: (Which religion today, can fulfill Revelation?)

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Thursday, April 25, 2013

Anointed Flock...the Truth

RESPONSE TO A LETTER:

I would be happy to discuss the ideas in your "great crowd" article, most notably the conclusions about "every tribe and tongue and people and nation”.
You may want to re-consider Rev.5:9,10;
as well as the thought that after the first century,
the rest of the anointed are derived from this larger flock of physical Gentiles....
the larger flock than the "little flock" of anointed physical descendants of Abraham (physical Jews).
Since the first century, the anointed have been chosen from among physical Gentiles ("every tribe and tongue and people and nation")
to become spiritual Jews, along with the original physical Jews (Matt.15:24; 10:6; Rom.1:16; 2:9,10,11) who also became spiritual Jews,
so that both physical Jew and physical Gentile,
all become "one flock" of anointed spiritual "Jews". (Rom.2:28,29; John 10:16,27; Isa.56:8; Eze.34:23; Rev.7:17)

The last of the anointed priests and kings (the great crowd "capstone" Zech.4:7,9; Rev.7:9,17),
MUST be all physical Gentiles (Rev.5:9,10). 
There is no longer any record of physical Jews,
nor any preferential consideration toward them, since the time of their rejection of God's Son and subsequent hardening of their hearts in unrepentance (Heb.8:13; Rom.11:25); and since the opening of the kingdom hope toward Gentiles (Acts 13:46; 10:15; Eph.2:14,15,16; Acts 10:34,35,44,45; Gal.3:28). 

In the first century...Jews who repented were accepted (Acts 2:36,37,38; Rom.9:27). After this opportunity, it was made equally opened to physical Gentiles to be in God's New Covenant, which replaced the Old Covenant toward physical Jews.
These anointed (since the first century) are from all "tribes and nations". Whether Jew or Gentile --it matters not, since the end of the Law Covenant abolished any favoritism. "Jew" is just one of the many nations included in the New Covenant of Christ's anointed sheep.

Compare the total flock of anointed to an apple pie.
Some apples are of one sort, some of another sort.

Physical Jews are one sort. Yet Gentiles are of many sorts.
Yet they are all mixed together to become one pie. (Gal.3:28,29; John 10:16; Eph.3:6)


This fits the "one flock" as consisting of both physical Jew and a variety of physical Gentiles.
They join to become one anointed flock/ one "pie".

Now after most of that "pie" has come and gone (eaten),
there is a final slice that is left. 

No one can say how large or small it is (Rev.7:9)
We can be certain though, that just like the pie from which it came,
it consists of a variety of apples (Rev.7:9) (Perhaps including physical Jews, without special distinction)
This is the remnant... the great crowd/last capstone of the anointed "Temple" (1Pet. 2:5; Eph.2:20,21), 
which comes through the time of the end and it's final great Satanic test, the "Great Tribulation". (Rev.7:14; Zech.4:7,9,11,14; Rev.11:3,4).

The "one pie"/flock, is not designated as being of one sort of apple or another sort.
That last slice is also considered "of every tribe tongue people and nation"...including any physical Jews.
Why?
There is no longer any distinction, nor favoritism among the anointed (Acts 10:34; Gal.3:28,29).
For, God's chosen are from all nations (including physical Jews), selected to become the new "Israel of God".
 (Gal.6:15,16; Rev.3:12; 21:2;  2Pet. 3:13).

What is "Jew" and "Gentile"?

Sunday, August 12, 2012

NOTE: I have just added an addition at the bottom of this post, from a question I received today.
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Not only am I receiving increasing numbers of letters from those who are "signing and groaning" over the operation of error within the Organization,
even locally, some are awakening in my own area.
Here is a letter I wrote, in response to someone's visit and subsequent thank-you note.....

Dear Xxxxx,
It was wonderful to see you also!
Yes, Jehovah is love. I admit that in light of that, I was shocked to learn what is to become those who remain in the Congregations.
Yet, Jehovah's way IS adjusted right. (Eze.33:17-18,19-20)
The end-time prophetic scenario for which we have all awaited and kept on the watch, is NOW.
I know the following lesson is very deep, but it is the "proper food at the proper time"...so I hope you take your time with it, pray, and contemplate each scripture. This revealed truth, means life indeed (John 17:3)!

Just a couple of scriptures which help to show the outcome for "God's People", whom Jehovah speaks of as a "vine" of grapes
(Psalm 80:14-15; Isa.5:7).
Their unfaithfulness and destruction this referred to in Jer.25:29-30...but also Rev.14:18-19 (which we know is for the time of the end). Many things in Jer.25 are connected (Jer.25:15-16 and Rev.14:10). This is the consequence for those idolaters (God's "vine of the earth") who "worship the Beast" (Rev.14:9,19).
This violates the clearest of all Jehovah's commands (Exodus 20:3), which was repeated by Jesus, as the most important Law (Mark 12:28-29,30).

Although the Society and others, teach that this Beast (Rev.14:9) is governments [because it comes up out of the "sea" Rev.13:1 (Nations, Gentiles, non-Jews)]...they fail to remember and recognize, that anyone  who is not an anointed "Jew" (Rom.2:29; Gal.3:29), is a spiritual "Gentile"
This  includes the average elder, who is now the prince and priest in each Congregation. These "Gentiles" have been raised up, (2Thess.2:4),  above the anointed, who actually are the temple of God (1Cor.3:16). These elders  (spiritual "Gentiles") are now casting out any anointed who do not pledge subjection to the so-called "spirit-directed Organization" which they ...the Gentile elders ...(not the anointed), represent. (an abomination; Matt.24:15) These ones "stand, where they ought not"! (Mark 13:14)
Therefore, rising up from the "sea"/Nations, does not define this Beast as political. It merely defines it as non-Jew/non-anointed. Any authority and power not sourced with Christ and his faithful ambassadors, is sourced in Satan's world of the sea/Gentiles. This is especially so if that "Gentile" power is "set in opposition"/"opposes" and is ruling, among Jehovah's Temple of anointed (2Thess.2:4).

If any anointed one takes a stand for Christ as their head (and not for an organization of spiritual Gentiles as their head), these "Gentile" "priests" disfellowship/"cast out", Jehovah's chosen one (2Chron.13:9). Just as in the past, "Israel" ("Jews"/anointed) have placed Gentiles (uncircumcised in heart by spirit Eze.44:6-7,8-9;  2Thess.2:4), to take care of priestly duties right in among God's anointed Temple (Rom.2:29;  1Cor.3:16)
This is a detestable thing to Jehovah (a "disgusting thing standing in a Holy Place"), and shows Him gross disrespect. Any anointed one who subjects themselves to this idolatrous arrangement, rather than honoring Jehovah God and His choosing of them to be the body of Christ, have given their future kingdom crown to the Beast (Rev.17:12-13; Rev.3:11). This then, associates them with the Harlot who dominates the Beast (Rev.17:2,18;  1Cor.6:15) and the Covenant of Death the Harlot is under..."Babylon the Great" (Rev.17:5; Isa.28:15). They then share in the end-time idolatry of God's people (Rev.13:8), and the persecution of the faithful (Rev.13:7; 11:7; 17:6). This is Satan's end-time tool, against the remnant (Rev.12:17; 13:7,2;  2Thess.2:9). He is able to use the anointed rulers at the top, because these have compromised their integrity to Truth (Rev.8:10-11; 9:1,11;  2Cor.11:13-14). Through this "fallen star" "Wormwood"; Satan has hijacked Jehovah's Temple.
(Rev.2:1,5; 8:10-11)
The "Man of Lawlessness" is the "Wild Beast" of Revelation. This proves that the "Wild Beast" reigns over the anointed "Temple of The God" (2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16), and has waged war... only with the "Holy Ones" as it's target (Rev.13:7).
Can you see that this "Gentile" Beast, cannot be political? Governments have not singled out and targeted the "Holy Ones". "All the earth will worship him"! (Rev.13:8). This Beast is lead by a "false prophet" , who has empowered it to persecute the faithful anointed (Rev.13:14-15; 19:20).

Are you able to recognize how this is fulfilled today...while the anointed leadership has empowered the "Gentile" elders, to expel the faithful?
How "Israel" has appointed their own "priests" to replace those chosen by Jehovah? (Eze.44:6-7,8-9;  2Chron.13:9)
To Jehovah, this is an abomination...a disgusting thing (Gentile priests) standing in a Holy Place (Chosen Priesthood/Temple) Matt.24:15-16.

Should Jehovah really leave idolaters who should know better, left unpunished? (Jer.25:29)
Jehovah does not change (Mal.3:6). If He has always demanded exclusive devotion (Deut.5:9) and forbidden subjection to any other "image" (Lev.26:1; Deut.5:7-8)...if He has always forbidden anyone to care for his spiritual Temple, unless they are a chosen priest, circumcised by Holy Spirit; then He feels the same way today!
It matters nothing if that "image" self-claims to be an Organization that is "spirit ("breath") directed" (Rev.13:15). 

Just like the "image" of Rev.13; the "image" of the "spirit directed" Org., also has concrete physical representatives (the counterfeit Gentile priests); just as the "Image" of the Beast, also co-exists alongside the concrete Wild Beast.

The Chosen Ones have been called to be subject to their Heavenly Father and their Lord and Head, Christ (Eph.5:23-24;  1Cor.11:3; James 4:7)
You can not serve two Masters (Matt.6:24;  2Cor.6:14; Rev.17:13; Rom.6:16;  1Cor.7:23; Gal.1:10; Col.3:24) The organizational "City" which is now, is to be destroyed (Matt.24:2-3; Rev.18:10;  2Pet.3:11-12,13). Faithful anointed await the City to come (Heb.13:14; Phil.3:20; Heb.12:22; 11:16,10; Isa.52:1) For the time being, we must prove faithful through the "Great Tribulation"'s test, and "endure to the end" (Matt.24:13; 10:22,34; Luke 9:23-24,25-26; 17:31-32,33-34,35-36,37; Rev.11:8). We will conquer....not by fighting a political entity, but by a self-sacrificing sticking and witnessing to truth (Rev.12:11; 17:14) in the face of idolatry and spiritual fornication (Rev.13:8; 17:2).

Yes Xxxxx...I know that was quite a spiritual meal loaded with "meat" (Heb.5:14). But it is very late, and you have not been fed Truth at the meetings for a long time. Two articles that may help you know where to turn for accurate knowledge, are http://pearl-divineeducation.blogspot.com and http://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com .

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Also...an answer to a different letter...

Question:
"there must be a time soon when many thousands of anointed will be DFed and outside the Org. This will surely become known world wide. How can it not ? If there 15K taking emblems and only 5k leave,this is a lot of anointed. I wonder how this ties in with the beast turning on the harlot ? 

Reply:


The faithful anointed have been getting kicked out and martyred from the beginning. This is also true of our modern day Beast. Jesus did not say "When you see the disgusting thing become borne"...NO!...But he did say, "When you catch sight of it". It already exists...but is not identified until the manifestation of Christ during his presence (2Thess.2:8,7). 
Remember, Raymond Franz was kicked out (along with two other brothers) in 1980, ...and that still is a famous event (Rev.2:13). 
The truth is, that even when a faithful anointed one is kicked out right in their own Congregation, "JW's" still "take no note". 
They are taught to never question the decisions of the elders. How can "JW's" know how many are being kicked out in other congregations??? 
This is not something which is talked about, let alone published. It is understood that it is not an appropriate topic for conversation even in the local Congregation,
 never mind taking the topic to surrounding Congregations and actually asking questions about the movement. 
This would immediately be seen as critical toward the Org., and squelched.

I happen to be aware of what is going on, only because these ones find me and write.
How can anyone else see this trend? The intolerance of the Beast toward independent scriptural comments is the only palpable symptom at the local level. 
Most Congregations do not even have an anointed one.

When you say that the "killing" of the "two witnesses" will involve "many thousands"....that assumption is not in harmony with Jesus' words....
"Many are invited, but few chosen"...and, 
"The marriage feast is ready, but those invited were not worthy." (Matt.22:14; 22:8)
In reality, the remnant is "few" (Matt.7:14).
Most anointed have chosen loyalty to the Beast/Org., and will remain a part of the "ten kings" Rev.17:12-13).

Although the Society has "numbered" the partakers each year....this is not an accurate reflection of faithful anointed (Rev.7:9;  1Chron.21:1). The "Great Crowd" can not be numbered. They are "dressed in white robes". This "seal" is only given to martyred anointed (Rev.6:9-10,11; 19:8), which includes the last ones (remnant) who come through the G.T. (Rev.7:14). 
They are said to "serve Him day and night in His temple" (Rev.7:15). The only ones able to render "acceptable" service IN the Temple, are the chosen priests (1Pet.2:5,9)
"And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them" Rev.7:15 c.  (see Rom.8:9;  1Cor.3:16)...again...the anointed priests.
They are "Great", regardless of how many they number...for they have conquered Satan, causing the end of his reign (Rev.12:11,10,9).

Therefore, we can not assume that this killing of the faithful "two witnesses" will be widely recognized.
When we read at Rev.11:8-9 and Rev.11:10 that all those who dwell on the earth "see" the dead bodies and "rejoice"; this does not infer that they know the "two witnesses" personally or recognize their divinely assigned identity. It means that they know of these ones with disdain...and agree that they deserve to be killed.
"JW's" already do this as their hearts agree with the "talks" about apostates, both in general, and pointed talks given on the Congregation level, just following the expulsion of a local anointed one. 
Many such talks have been given in my own former Congregation, according to a local elder who continues to sympathize with the injustice I was subjected to. This fulfills these symbolic verses, of this symbolic book (Rev.1:1).

It is the "ten kings" who stay inside the Org. ... the unfaithful anointed...who turn on the Harlot along with the Beast they are a part of (Rev.17:12-13,16-17).
While these fulfill Jehovah's desire when they turn on the Harlot, "Wormwood"; these "ten" anointed "kings" are no part of the "two witnesses".
These "ten kings" also fight against Christ and the faithful (Rev.17:14).

The "ten kings" are like the 5 foolish virgins, who "buy" oil from the Organizational Beast (to shine in their lamps) Matt.25:2,8-9,10-11,12-13; Rev.13:17. 
These are not admitted to the marriage feast of the unsealed scrolls (Dan.12:9-10; Rev.22:10; 1:1 a; Matt.22:8).

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Monday, May 19, 2014

"Gentile Times"/ "Great Tribulation" / Cleansed Priesthood

Some Questions I received:
Did the Gentile times start around 1935, with the announcement the heavenly class was full?
What does it mean for us with the end of the 70-80 years torment (2005-2015?) from the scorpion/elders? Is this the end of a particular period or the end of the gentile times?  
Is this the same time as Dan.12:7?
Dan.12:7 says that as soon as the dashing to pieces of power the of the holy people comes to an end; all these things will come to their finish.      
Is this “dashing to pieces of their power” while the anointed are powerless in Babylon/ the org before being released/expelled,
 or is it when Satan is released from the abyss & surrounds the camp of the holy ones (Rev.20:7-8,9-10), though these scriptures don’t say that Satan gets to do any damage to them at this time.

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My Reply:

Hello again,

I will answer as much as I can for now, in a general way, and perhaps be able to go into more depth as needed later.
Please consider that there is a general testing due all called/chosen ones,
and a unique testing to befall the "remaining ones of the woman's seed" who come through the "Great Tribulation".
These ones face the fourth beast 
(Dan.7:7-8,21,23,25; 8:9,10-11,12,23-24,25; 11:21-22,23-24, 31-32,33-34,35-36,37-38,39-40,41-42,43-44,45; Rev.17:11-12). 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)
This last Beast of persecution is "different" and especially "fearsome";
because it is the one to whom Satan gives all his power (Rev.13:1-2,4) to deceive (Rev.16:13-14,15;  1Tim.4:1), right in the midst of God's spiritual Temple (2Thess.2:4;  1Cor.3:16). It gains access to it, due to the development of a unique alliance, that makes it more effective than previous beasts of persecution. The "Temple" is thrown down and trampled as a result (Daniel scriptures above, and Rev.11:2,7; 6:9; 13:7,10; Luke 21:24).
"Gentiles" are not spiritual "Jews"
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-is-jew-what-is-gentile-answers-to.html).
Their Organization consists, not of members of spiritual Israel, but of non-anointed from Satan's "sea" (Rev.13:1; Dan.7:3) They are sons of/seed of Satan (Leviathan), who is "Destruction
(Rev.9:11,3; Eze.2:6; Luke 10:19;  2Thess2:3).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/11/who-is-destroyer.html)
Collectively, they are the Wild Beast of Rev.13:1; and their "image" of divinity (as being spirit-breathed and directed by God's spirit) is a blasphemy...the result of the lying doctrines of the false prophet, who is of spiritual Israel (from the "earth"/Greek:"dwelling") 
(Rev.13:11,15; 17:3; Dan.11:36;  2Thess.2:4). 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/world-earth-home.html)
The alliance of the Gentiles/Beast (Iron) and the "Jewish" Called/chosen Harlot/false prophet (clay/still of the earth/unsealed -1Cor.15:48; 3:1; Rom.8:5), is the last of these persecuting powers described in Daniels Image. Their alliance will not last (Dan.2:33,40-41,42-43; Rev.17:3,16). The toes of the image in Daniel (Dan.2:41-42) are the ten kings of the earth (Rev.1:6,5; 5:9-10; John 18:36; Rev.19:16) who rule "one hour" with the Beast (Rev.17:12-13,14; Dan.2:44).
(pearl-kingsofearth.blogspot.com)

The clay belongs to God (1Pet.2:9-10; Hosea 2:22-23), and while that clay is still malleable and moist, God can mold it into a useful vessel (Isa.64:8-9,10; Eph.2:10,22;  2Tim.2:20-21). When it refuses to be molded by God (Isa.45:9; Jer.5:5; Ps.2:2-3,4-5,6) and dries out (loses it's living water -Luke 8:18) it has become a useless "brittle" container (Dan.2:42-43; Isa.30:14-15; Ps.2:9; Rev.2:27; Jer.2:12-13; 19:11; Lam.4:2), fit only to be smashed.

The depictions in Revelation chapter 9 and 13 are unique to the time of the end in their type, intensity and effectiveness against those Chosen. Yet, persecution is a common testing to which all Chosen are subjected (2Tim.3:12; Luke 22:31), regardless of when they live.
My point is that the "scorpions"/Gentiles/"man of lawlessness" have always been present to persecute God's seed (Gen.3:15). But in the time of the end, Satan empowers this identity and the tribulation they cause, to an unprecedented degree. Satan places it under the command of a wicked steward/"Jew"/genuine Chosen priest, so that the Gentiles gain entrance into God's "Temple". How? That false prophet imbues the Gentile Beast with an Image of having holy spirit (Rev.13:15) (John 20:22-23), so that it can be raised up over God's Temple, trample it down, condemn God's priests to death, and execute (Rev.11:7; 6:9-10,11; Mark 8:35).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/world-earth-home.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/tails-stingers-scorpions-rev910.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)
I will illustrate this below. That period is the symbolic "five months" of Rev.9:5,10.
["five months" is the same as 150 days (30X5=150)] 
That is the same period of time, during which the earth was deluged with water in the time of Noah (Gen.7:24). There is a parallel between these two floods (Rev.12:15-16). One is a physical, prophetic parable (1Cor.15:46; 10:11; Rom.15:4). The other, is actually a spiritual fulfillment 
(Dan.9:26; Luke 19:43; Jer.51:42; Isa.57:20; Rev.13:1,7; Joel 2:1-2,3; Rev.9:3)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/earth-swallows-satans-river.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)

Despite this Great Tribulation at the hands of this growing Gentile "horn";
this "5 months" is not the only "Gentile times", nor is it the "7 times" of "2,520" "days".
I do feel that it does correspond to the "10 days of testing" and the 3.5 times (half of 7) (Rev.2:10; Dan.1:12,14-15; Rev.2:24; Dan.1:8). This period of "ten days"/"5 month"/3.5 times, is also a testing from Gentiles, but it is not the full nor only aspect of it (Just as the fourth beast is not the only beast of Gentile persecution. All the beasts are aspects of the Gentile Times/period of their power over the Holy Ones.)
The final Beast "conquers" the Holy Ones, while they are obedient captive slaves of it (Rev.13:7-8). Through the "difference" possessed by the fourth beast (Dan.7:23; 2:33), the Chosen who are present during the Great Tribulation, have been overcome... 
(Rev.13:7,10; Luke 21:24,20; Rev.20:7-9; 11:5)
(Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Rev.13:11,15; 19:20) 
...because they have joined in idolizing the Image of the Beast... believing the lie, that it is "spirit-directed" by God. Rather than having the authority over deception that Christ gave them (Luke 10:19; Eze.2:6), they have lost their "crown" (Rev.9:3,10; 11:2; Matt.5:13; Rev.3:11) of power and authority, over "serpents and scorpions". They are being trampled, by them.

But the Wild Beast from the sea (Gentile) has more than the ability to conquer. It also has the ability to "kill" with the "sword" (Rev.13:10,15; 11:7).
There are two periods of "3.5"/"1,260". During the first period, the called ones are in captivity, and are in subjection to the Gentile Beast/locust-scorpions. During this sharing in idolatry, they are unsealed.
During the second period, they are considered dead by the nations, but are providing further testimony after being set free from the Beast's dominion and deception.
Yet during this time, the Gentiles are still dominating the effectiveness of this faithful witness...
blocking their warning message from reaching those still captive [Rev.13:16-17; (Rev.3:18; 21:6; Isa.55:1; Matt.13:44) Dan.11:45; Rev.20:8-9; 16:14; 17:13-14; 19:14; 12:7].
Their efforts will eventually fail, when the power of the Gentile times come to it's finish  (Rev.9:3,10; Hosea 13:14;  1Cor.15:55)
           (Isa.27:13; Matt.24:31; Rev.10:7; Zech.2:6-7,8-9,10-11; Eze.11:17-18,19-20; 
            Jer.31:10-11; Isa.48:20; Zech.9:16; Isa.62:3; Rev.12:1; 7:4)
by means of the faithful testimony of the final "two witnesses" (Zech.4:11,14,10,9,6-7; Rev.11:3-4,5; 12:10-11; Mark 8:35).

Since their full warning message is given after their "deaths",

and no one may provide spiritual food to the captives, unless it is branded by the lies of the Beast and false Prophet, under penalty of death (pearl-666.blogspot.com);
no one can become sealed without "dying" (Rev.6:9-10,11; 12:10-11; 20:4).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html)
This "death" occurs at the direction of the final Harlot, who is also the false prophet/two-horned beast/"Wormwood" 
(Rev.17:6; 18:24,21; 8:8,10-11; 9:1; 13:11-12,15,14; 16:13), 
and at the hand of the Gentile Beast she empowered (Rev.13:15; 11:7) while those Gentiles are still in power.

Satan wages war with the remaining ones of the woman's seed (Rev.12:17,15; Dan.11:10) by means of the final beast (Dan.11:33; Rev.13:10; Col.2:8). His final machination is against the camp of the Holy Ones (Rev.20:7-8,9; 11:5; Jer.23:29; 5:14; Isa.24:6; Hosea 6:5; Matt.10:20; Rev.20:9-10; Dan.7:9-10,11) on earth (Rev.12:15,6,14)

      (When is the "Thousand Years"?)
       See:
         (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html)
         (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html)
         (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html)

The Gentile times are a symbolic seven.
First, the power of the Gentiles over ALL CHOSEN, is a common test which all are subjected to previous to being sealed, no matter when they live.
This is why Paul said that the "man of lawlessness" was already present in the first century (2Thess.2:7). The "man of lawlessness" is Satan's seed, but it is Gentile (from the "sea") (not Chosen/anointed), symbolized by the Wild Beasts from the "sea" (Dan.7:3; Rev.13:1).
The fourth Beast has ten horns (Dan.7:7; Rev.13:1).... identical to it's father, Satan (Rev.12:3). As such, the Wild Beast is Satan's son ("son of destruction" --  2Thess.2:3; Rev.9:11),
heir to Satan's dominion, as we see at Rev.13:1,2,4. The Gentile "man of lawlessness" is called the "son of destruction" (2Thess.2:3). Satan is "destruction" (Rev.9:11; Isa.33:1; John 10:10). This "son" consists of the Gentiles that are raised up [by means of "weeds"/harlots/false prophets/wicked steward (Rev.9:1,3; 13:11,15; 17:7; 19:20; Dan.8:24] in the midst of the Holy Temple priesthood, and they trample it (Rev.11:2; 13:6;  2Thess.2:4; Dan.11:36,38; Jer.19:4) (Dan.11:23; Rev.13:14-15; 19:20).

Yet at 2Thess.2, Paul also says that when the "man of lawlessness" is exposed and revealed by the spirit of the manifested Christ (truth heralded in the face of death), it will be a special time...the time of the End. It is also special because this Satanic tactic will then be fully revealed (2Pet.3:10; Luke 8:17). It is also special because of the unprecedented degree of power the "man" then attains over God's people (1Pet.2:10,9).
That end-time power is depicted in Revelation, within the symbolism of the locust-scorpions of Revelation chapter 9, and the Wild Beast of Rev.13:1.
(pearl-revelation9.blogspot.com)
The active power of the "man of lawlessness"/Wild Beast/Locust-scorpions...is the "Gentile times".
The Gentile Times is both...
the experience of all called ones no matter when they live
(symbolic seven times of cleansing/refinement, with no definitive years)
and 
a special period of great tribulation in the time of the End, when these things culminate and are dealt with by Christ and his emerging faithful,
due to his Temple, being trampled 
(Dan.12:1; Rev.12:7-8,9-10,11; 11:3; 17:14; 19:11,14). Revelation's symbolic parables apply to both periods (Rev.1:19; Hab.2:2; Rev.4:1; 11:12).

 Although I tend to think this unique end-time condition involves a symbolic "three and a half times" (not seven -see Dan.12:7) in an augmented sense during the End--(physical and literal 70-80 years of the "5 months") (1935---2010-15);
which literal period is only for the "remaining ones" of the "woman's seed"....
      [the "great crowd" who come through that
       final testing (Rev.7:13,15) of the re-emerged Wild Beast of Gentile persecution, 
       and it's domination over the holy ones 
       (existed before, as stated above at 2Thess.2:7;  1John 4:3. 
    See -Rev.17:8)] 
that this final, Great Tribulation applies. The seven times are for all anointed, but those times take on new tactics and intensity for the final anointed at the end. This is why the "Great Crowd" is given special mention. We must keep these two aspects of the Gentile times in mind, according to how they dominate all anointed, and how they dominate the final remnant;
Because the Bible describes both aspects.

It is the "fourth beast" of Daniel, that emerges in the time of the end. This is the one at Rev.13:1.
The man of lawlessness was manifested in all four beasts, but the fourth manifestation is "different", because it possesses all the powers of the previous beasts (Dan.7:2-3,4-5,6-7; Rev.13:2) and is in alliance with a genuine steward of Christ (a wicked one -Luke 12:42,45-46), plus all the worldly resources that Satan has to give it (1John 5:19; Rev.13:4,7;  2Thess.2:9-12). It is Satan's final attempt against the remnant/great crowd (Rev.12:17). This makes the Gentile domination ("seven times" of refinement for the priests)
take on new traits, a "great tribulation" in the time of the end (Matt.24:21-22,13,4-5,9-10,11-12,13,24-25,15-16,28.)
I realize this explanation of the seven Gentile times may be confusing, so I will try to illustrate...

Imagine that there is a virus. It attacks for many years, and most alive go through being sick with it. 
Some who catch it die, and some live.
Now imagine that later on, this same virus undergoes some mutation which makes it stronger. 
Everyone alive at the time of this increased power, catches it and is overcome (Luke 21:35; Rev.13:7; 9:3,10). 
Few survive it successfully; and they can only survive if saving intervention is sought out.
It is during this period, that the virus is finally identified and understood, and a cure is found for those seeking salvation.

Can you see that it is basically the same virus and illness for many ages?
Can you see that in a later time, it undergoes alteration, becomes more effective and lethal, everyone alive at that time catches it, and the virus is then exposed and finally conquered?
The virus always has the same source....Satan.

It is the same with the Gentile times...the period in which Gentiles have power, because they are Satan's seed...able to be used by Satan while Satan still rules the world. 
Satan uses them (the Gentiles/his seed) in different manifestations (Beasts).
Each manifestation has it's own traits and powers and uses...all used against the sealing of those called and chosen (under it's symbolic and spiritual interpretation -Rev.13:2).

This "seven time" dominion is not limited to a physical 70 years, but is symbolic.
It is the period for each individual Chosen one (seven times), 
to be cleansed and refined, to prepare them to offer acceptable sacrifices during
their eternal position as priests (1Pet.2:5; Mal.3:3; Titus 2:14; Heb.9:14),
which service (under the high priest and King, Christ) begins in this life now.
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html)

The Temple priesthood under Aaron is a shadow of the reality in the spiritual heavens
(Heb.8:5; Col.2:17; Heb.10:1; 9:11; 12:22-23; Col.3:1; 2:12; Phil.3:20; Eph.2:6).
That foreshadowing teaches us.
Just as the priests and their sacrifices (altar) were cleansed and prepared for their Temple service 
(Eze.44:26; 43:25-26,27;  2Chron.30:21-22; Ex.12:15; 13:6; Matt.16:6; Lev.8:11,33-34,35-36), so too the heavenly Temple priesthood must be brought through the fire (Num.31:23-24; Zech.13:9; Mal.3:2-3). This period of testing by fire (at the hands of Gentiles) is upon the "third" spoken of in Revelation (Zech.13:8-9; Eze.5:12; Rev.8:7-8,9-10,11-12; 9:15,18; 12:4)
There is an additional means of cleansing that guides us through these Gentile times.....
(Ex.29:29,30 -wear garment of high priest; Heb.4:14 -Jesus Christ is high priest; Luke 1:78; Mal.4:2; Eph.5:14 -Christ is sun; Rev.12:1; Isa.61:3; Col.3:12 -sealed wear sun/imitate and follow course of Christ in order to be consecrated) (Ex.29:44-45).
(We must imitate Christ, being guided by all that was his example, in how he dealt with the Gentile Beast (Romans) and Harlot (Jewish religious leaders) of His day. 1Pet.2:21; Rev.14:4).
This means we can not "take with us" our previous "outer garment" (Matt.24:18).
All the final remnant have had contact with the man of sin/lawlessness/death [Num.19:11-12,13; ("third and seventh" -- "three and a half/and seven"--events which occur at those two points--their deaths/sealing, and their witnessing) / ("Water for cleansing impurity"--Eph.5:26, comes from the sacrificed "Heifer" (Num.19:17,9; Heb.13:13; Rev.4:7) (ashes mixed with water). This "face" of a heifer on the four living creatures (Rev.4:7), represents this required sacrifice to cleanse that priest in the time of the end (Rev.6:9,11). 
The four faces of the living creatures, correspond (are the opposite/antithesis) to the four traits of the final beast/"man of lawlessness" [leopard, bear, lion, Satan (Rev.13:2,1)(seven heads, ten horns -Rev.12:3)] 
The opposing four "living creatures" also have the trait of their king and father, Christ (Rev.5:5; 4:7).

All called and chosen ones are tested by Satan as to faithfulness to God. Most have gone through domination by Gentiles during their testing, to test their loyalty to God in the face of Gentile threats sourced with Satan.
Yet the "remaining ones of the woman's seed" face Satan's "short period/great rage" warfare, after his release from the abyss (Rev.12:17; 20:7-8,9), when he comes up with the forth and final Gentile beast/(altered, stronger virus), of Rev.13:1; (Dan.7:7).

This end-time period has the same basic elements (Gentile Beast/testing of loyalty/threats to life/apostate doctrines)...
but they are "different" and "especially fearsome" (Dan.7:3,7) due to the forth beast's effectiveness in deception, captivity, and lethal power to cause spiritual death and prevent the final ones from becoming sealed as slaves of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.13:16-17,7). 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html)
(https://pearl-666.blogspot.com/)

The fourth has all the advantages of the first three beasts (Rev.13:2; Dan.7:4-6), plus ALL of Satan's entire power and authority over the world, plus a traitorous steward within God's own Temple (Rev.8:10-11; 9:1; Jer.51:7). 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-happened-in-1914.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/01/is-wicked-steward-real.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html)
In this way, this fourth beast is enabled to have dominion within every nation, tribe, people and tongue.....reaching it's attack to all called ones scattered over the entire surface of the world.
Yet just as Satan gives all his power to the final beast/man of lawlessness/anti-Christ/locust-scorpions;
Christ gives all his power to his final prophets 
(Rev.11:3-4,5; Matt.24:27,31; John 16:12-13,14; Rev.1:1; 10:8,7,11) / the symbolic four living creatures/seven stars/angels/messengers, 
who will give it to the seven congregations/great crowd/remnant. 
(Rev.1:16,20; 8:2,6; Joshua 6:6,8,13-14,15-16; Eze.33:3-4,5-6,7)

As far as how this relates to Dan.12:7...
"7 The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, all these things will be completed."

Notice that this is not speaking of 7 times, but 3.5 times.
This is speaking of the deaths of all the faithful [which occurs at this symbolic midpoint (being sealed) of "seven times" (3.5+3.5=7) Rev.8:13; 14:6], as also depicted at Rev.6:9-10,11...
"When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar (cleansed) the souls of those who had been slain (Heifers) because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, (see context Dan.12:6-7) Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been."
Dan.12:6-7 is a parallel to Rev.6:10-11.
All must die for truth in order to be sealed ("white robe" -Rev.19:8). (Mark 8:35)
This is why those still in subjection to the Gentiles, are not sealed (Rev.9:3-4;  2Cor.11:2-3,4; Rev.2:20; 13:15,7-8).
This is... the "dashing to pieces" "the power of the Holy Ones", the trampling of God's Temple, and the disgusting thing that stands in the holy place (Mark 13:14).
(https://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/)
The heralds are made impotent to witness/speak to the captives, by means of disfellowshipping.
Rev.20:4 described it as being "beheaded", just as the first century herald was silenced (Matt.14:10; Rev.2:13).
So the power of the Holy Ones is effected both before and after sealing, but the impotence referred to at Dan.12:7 is interpreted for us at Rev.6:9-10,11; 11:7; 20:4, as their actual "deaths" at the hand of the Gentile Wild Beast...disfellowshipping. This is what God is awaiting...for the rest who can still be awoken, to choose to "get out of her" by losing their life for the sake of truth (Rev.18:4; 6:11; Mark 8:35).
Once all the remaining ones of the wheat are all killed by the Beast (Rev.11:7; 13:15) and are thereby sealed into a faithful death (Mark 8:35; John 12:24; Rom.6:5),
all things required of the final priests are fulfilled, and God's vengeance will then erupt on the last Harlot and fourth Beast (Rev.17:16-17; 20:10; 11:5). The beaming light of God's revealed and opened sacred secrets, will also bring "Babylon the Great" (the covenant with Satan, founded upon confusion, darkness, lies and death) to a final end.

Satan's release from the abyss (and attack to follow) is against both the sealed and unsealed, because attacks on both help prevent the remaining seed from becoming sealed into the woman present on earth.
The hoards of Gog and Magog cannot damage the sealed woman, because she is sheltered in the wilderness and provided for there, by God's spirit and it's provision of spiritual food (through the two witnesses) (Rev.12:6,14; 11:3).

It will be the choice of the unsealed, whether or not they will obey Christ (Matt.24:16; Rev.18:4) and seek out (eyes of eagles) the slain carcass/two witnesses, in order to be fed by holy spirit as their light (Matt.24:28; Rev.4:7; 11:7; 6:9; 11:8-9) or remain in the spiritual commerce of the Beast (Matt.25:10; Rev.13:17; 6:6).

Your questions raise many topics. 
I need to write about each one in a clear way, and of course, with all the scriptures that teach us.
I expect that it will not be until I finish writing about the four beasts, the seven times, the Great Tribulation and Great Crowd, Matthew chapter 24, Leviathan and the Abyss, Babylon the Great (Covenant with Death), Gog and Magog, Judgment Day, what it means to be resurrected, Two Kingdoms, the Daystar, and the Thousand Years,
that all your questions will have a full answer.
I also remember that you asked about the "New Scrolls", which I hope to get back up soon.

I know this is a different perspective than you may have expected.
These are deep things difficult to explain, as some things are (1Cor.3:2; John 16:12-13;  2Pet.3:16).
If there is anything that you have trouble understanding, please ask about it.

Love in Christ,
Pearl

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