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Friday, September 6, 2013

"Tails" / "stingers" / "scorpions"

In speaking of the "Locust-Scorpions" who "torment" the "unsealed men";
Rev.9:10 reads:
 "They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment the men for five months."




"THEY HAD TAILS"

Rev.9:10 starts by saying that the oppressing captors of the unsealed, have tails.

God's Word graces us with what Christ it telling us here. "Tails are those in servitude...those who follow the direction of "heads"..."heads" who are **in a position to provide... causing the "tails" to be dependent upon the "heads" (see Deut.28:13,44; **Luke 22:25). This is fulfilled by these Locust-Scorpions, due to their shameful subjection to those who are false spiritual leaders (Rev.9:8 A;  1Cor. 11:14)...the ruling False Prophet / Harlot (Rev.13:11; 16:13,14; 8:10,11; 9:1; Micah 3:9; Isa.28:14; Hosea 9:1; Rev.2:20,21). There is a succession of "Heads"/Harlots, who are all under their mother covenant/"woman", of death (Rev.17:9,10,5; Isa.28:14,15 --see link: "Who is the 'woman'?"). These "Heads"/"hills"/kings, are the seven governing "heads" of the Wild Beast (Rev.13:1; Gen.41:6,7; Rev.17:3,7,9). The Locust-Scorpions are in subjection to, and under the direction of, that last False Prophet /"Head"/"hill"/king/harlot/Wormwood/Fallen Star. In servitude to that last Harlot, these Locust-Scorpions prophesy lies themselves (Isa.9:15,16; Rev.16:13). This messenger capacity brings us to the next phrase...

"WITH STINGERS"

When these Locust-Scorpions falsely prophesy the Harlots wormwood lies, what is the result to those who accept/receive/ingest those false doctrines?

Although the Harlot's lies may taste as sweet as truth (Ps.119:103,98; Eze.3:3), the result is death (Rev.10:10; Prov.5:3,4,5; 7:27; 2:16,17,18,19; Isa.28:14,15; Rev.8:11; Deut.32:32; Rev.17:2).
Since the "Locust-Scorpions" are the messengers/bearers of the false prophet's lethal lies; how is it that their "tails" have "stingers"? (see 1Cor. 15:55)
As long as the "unsealed" Chosen Ones, remain in subjection to these agents/sons,  of Satan/destruction,  
     (2Thess. 2:3; Rev.9:11;  1Cor. 5:5) 
     ("son" resembles "father" --Rev.12:3; 13:1,7; John 8:44) 
     (the Locust-scorpion minions of the final Harlot)
... they remain un-ransomed, and under the power of death/abyss/pit, and it's agents.
[For many of these unsealed, this condition of captivity will change (Matt.25:6; Rev.9:13,14; Luke 4:18;  1Cor. 15:55) due to an "East wind" (Hosea 13:14,15; Gen.41:6; Rev.16:12; 7:2)].
These "tails" then, carry within them the venom of demonic deception, whose "stingers" cause spiritual captivity, paralysis, and death 
(Eph.2:1; Rev.3:1,2,3; 13:7,10;  2Cor. 11:20,3,4; Isa.42:22,23; 51:14,16,21,22,23; Gal.5:7; Rom.6:16;  1Cor. 7:23; Gal.1:10; Col.3:24). (Rev.9:7,8,2,3; Joel 1:6,7,4; 2:2,4,10; Luke 21:20,24; 19:43)
While enslaved to obedience toward these masters, these Chosen Ones remain outside the headship of Christ, and "unsealed".
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_UeCPYLLgPkY/Ss5QLNtjJkI/AAAAAAAACVk/k9UHtepSers/s400/Nephilim.jpg Isa.42:6,7,14,16; John 14:18

("remember what you have received" Rev.3:3; Isa.51:1; Deut.32:4; Isa.30:29; Dan.2:45,34; Isa.51:1; Eph.2:10; Isa.43:7) 
Remember that you are slaves/-living "rocks"/stones, belonging to God's mountain.....not slaves of men --1Cor. 7:23; Col.3:24; Gal.1:10; Rev.14:1;  1Pet. 2:5; Heb.12:22,23].
REMEMBER!
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/YHVHs-genuine-mountain.html)

"with stingers LIKE SCORPIONS"

Satan sees to it that those who have God's favor, are surrounded by his agents. God allows it as punishment for this idolatrous subjection to Gentiles. These stinging "scorpions" are not literal, but are a symbol for those human agents who rebel against God and the faithful Chosen Ones (Eze.2:6;  1Pet. 5:8; Luke 22:31; Rev.9:7 C). These are Satan's agents of tribulation (LINK(greatest tribulation-Why)), while the final Chosen Ones trek through Satan's "wilderness" of testing (Deut.8:15;  1Kings 12:11; Rev.9:3,11) (Matt.4:4; Rev.12:6; Luke 22:31). Yet those who choose loyalty to God despite the threat of death (Rev.13:15; 11:7; 6:9), will arise from Satan's dominion of the abyss...be set free from the power of it's agents...and be sealed (Luke 10:19; Deut.8:15,16; Rev.2:17; 12:14).
Although the power of these scorpions includes the sting of death, God's power can set those of faithful heart, free (Jer.1:19; 3:12; 31:11,2; Isa.51:1,7,10,12,14,16,22,23,3,4,5,6; Ps.144:1,7; 10:15 (2Thess. 2:8); Ps.10:15,14 (John 14:18); Ps.35:10; 18:16,17,19; 30:3; Job 33:30,24,28; Ps.94:17; Matt.24:22; Isa.38:17,18,19,20; 54:10; Mal.3:1; Zech.4:9,7).

Sunday, December 13, 2015

" Locust - Scorpions " / " Abaddon " / " fallen star " / " Wormwood "

NEW ADDITIONS MADE

I am copying a question from the FORUM, for those who many not have read it there. I have made additions to it, here.
I received a letter, to ask if I had seen this excerpt from the Watchtower:

"Toward the end of the first century C.E., the apostle John received a vision of seven angels, each of whom sounded a trumpet blast. When the fifth angel blew his trumpet, John saw “a star” fall from heaven to earth. The “star” had a key in his hand with which he opened the shaft of an abyss. Thick smoke poured out, and from this came a plague of locusts. Rather than ravage vegetation, the symbolic locusts swarm against “those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” (Rev. 9:1-4) John no doubt knew how devastating a locust swarm could be. Had not locusts plagued ancient Egypt in Moses’ day? (Ex. 10:12-15) The figurative locusts that John saw well illustrate anointed Christians proclaiming Jehovah’s powerful judgment messages. They are joined now by millions of companions with an earthly hope. Little wonder that our united preaching undermines the authority Satan exercises through his worldwide empire of false religion."

The person who sent it to me, asked:
So in essence, if the GB are saying that the locusts are the 144,000 then surely they must see who the locusts king is, or don't they??
Their king is the angel from the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon—the Destroyer. (Rev.9:11; Isa.33:1)
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My reply to him:

I will review this statement of the "WT" in segments, and add some considerations. 

"When the fifth angel blew his trumpet, John saw “a star” fall from heaven to earth."
Notice that they do not provide a scripture at the end of that sentence, to show who that fallen star is. That's because if the previous account of that fallen star is read (Rev.8:10-11), one can see that this is "Wormwood"... who poisons the waters. Every reference to wormwood in the Bible, is bad, and refers to leaders of God's people who mislead into idolatry (Jer.23:15; Amos 5:7) (Rev.2:20). They do not lead people to Jesus Christ, despite what they may claim (2Cor. 11:13,4,3;  2Thess. 2:1-2; Matt.24:4-5,24-25; Rev.13:11,15,8,7). "Falling", is not a good thing (1Cor. 10:12;  2Pet. 3:17).
To clarify, if the scripture the WT provides at the end of their comments is read
 (Rev.9:1-4), it can be seen that this occurs when the FIFTH angel sounds his trumpet... and it tells us that the star has already fallen (past tense, "had fallen"). It is when the THIRD angel sounds it's trumpet, that the star actually falls, at Rev.8:10-11). There it is clearly seen, that the fallen star, is "Wormwood". When the "WT" states... "When the fifth angel blew his trumpet, John saw “a star” fall from heaven to earth."; that is a lie. John does not see the star fall when the fifth angel blows his trumpet. (Rev.9:1) John saw the star fall, when the third angel blew his trumpet (Rev.8:10).


Note that the FORTH angel, shows that the heavenly bodies are darkened following the fall of Wormwood (Rev.8:12) 
(the bitterness of Wormwood, is associated with spiritual harlotry Prov.5:3-5 << literally, "bitter as Wormwood").
The darkening of the heavens at Rev.8:12, is also the result of the star that has already fallen, when it releases the "locust-scorpions" (Rev.9:2).


Also notice the deceptive strategy in the way the WT words this phrase...

When the fifth angel blew his trumpet, John saw “a star” fall from heaven to earth
In truth, we have seen that 

*John did not see the star fall from heaven when the fifth angel blew his trumpet. It clearly says that it already "had fallenbefore the fifth angel blew his trumpet (Rev.9:1).
*If we want to see the Bible's depiction of when the star actually falls, we must retrace our steps back, to Rev.8:10-11.
Just as Prov.5:3-5 pointed out, 

the mouth (teachings) of a Harlot seems as sweet as honey (Ps.19:9-10; 119:103), but the after effect to those who ingest them, is as bitter as wormwood (Rev.10:10-11; Prov.5:3-5; Rev.13:11).
(LINK: "The Fallen Star")

"The “star” had a key in his hand with which he opened the shaft of an abyss."

 Once again, the WT uses deceptive strategy by it's phrasing. They state that the star "had a key", as if it already had it before "falling". No, according to Rev.9:1; first it fell, and then it was given the key. So their wording has the star presently falling and already having the key, at the blowing of the fifth trumpet. But the scriptures indicate that the star had previously fallen, and afterward, received the key during the fifth trumpet.
Because they lack holy spirit, they just assume what seems obvious.... that there is only one key, and that there is only one holder. That misconception results in another miscalculation... that of assuming that this key holder must be Christ (Rev.20:1). 
Is that true?
We know, that the Devil has been killing from the beginning (John 8:44; 10:10) 
He opened the abyss of deception and death in Eden, and has the power to cause death, and to imprison every human to the consequence of sin, since then (Rom.5:12).
Jesus told us that he overcame the power of Satan to cause death (Heb.2:14-15; Rev.1:18). Yet death still kills. This is because salvation from the abyss is conditional, and does not come to all. Both Satan and Christ possess a key to death...

Satan opens it, and Jesus opens it... to rescue captives from it (Ps.40:2; 103:4; 49:15; Rev.12:5; Luke 4:18; Acts 26:18; Col.1:13; Ps.49:15) (Rev.13:10,7; Luke 21:24,22), or to rightly imprison there, he who created it (Prov.5:22;  2Cor. 4:4; Eph.6:12;  2Pet. 2:4; Rev.20:1-3; Prov.5:22; Col.2:15). It is my hope, that based upon the previous scriptures, readers discern that Satan's own kingdom of "darkness" (the abyss), and it's power to overcome persons by blind confusion, is rightly used against him, by Christ (Rev.20:1-3; Prov.5:22)... so that Satan himself is plunged into blind darkness... making him impotent and ignorant about how to overcome the obedient sons of light (John 1:5;  1Thess. 5:5;  1John 2:8; Luke 10:19; Acts 26:18; Col.1:13).
Yet as Rev.20:7-8 reveals; Satan will be released once again, by a keyholder (Wormwood). He will then be enabled to throw truth and light to the ground, once again (Rev.16:13-16;  1Tim. 4:1; Dan.8:12,11;  2Thess. 2:4,9-10; Rev.13:7; 11:2), by means of the disgusting thing standing in the holy place, which causes desolation to God's people (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31-36). 
(The "thousand years" -- When?
("Disgusting Thing")

Are Satan and the demons the only agents of spiritual darkness?
False prophets who mislead others, can also open Satan's pit, causing others to die (Luke 6:39; Isa.9:16;  2Tim. 3:13; Eze.14:10). When they have that authority power (key is the symbol), they too have a key to the abyss of death... to send captives there. I hope you can recognize these Biblical facts. If you don't see them clearly, let me know. (LINK)
So... Wormwood  causes people to die... to be consigned to the abyss of death -Rev.8:11. Therefore, "wormwood" also gets a key to the abyss... the authority and power to open death-causing deception, and to cause people to come under the power of death (Matt.15:14). We see three identities exercising the power of the abyss (holding keys)... Satan, Wormwood (the fallen star), and Christ.
More than one person, can "open the shaft of the abyss", if they hold a "key".
Satan can give the key (authority and power) to those who do his will... He does use people (false prophets) to open deception and death/the abyss
(Rev.13:4; Matt.4:8-9; Rev.9:1,11).

"Thick smoke poured out, and from this came a plague of locusts."
The organization always used to point to Joel for their interpretation of the locust-scorpions. That is the right place to turn, for the many parallel traits between the locust-scorpions and the locusts of Joel  (LINK).
The WT has apparently stopped using the references in Joel, because both I and Obadiah have published the conclusion which Joel penned. If the references are followed through to the end, we learn that God destroys the locusts, and He compensates His people for the excessive punishment they suffered 

(Luke 21:22; Zech.1:14-16; Job 2:6; Rev.9:5; 6:9) by the locust's persecution (Joel 2:25-26). 


Rather than change this false doctrine upon it's discovery, they simply divert their readers from the Bible's truth, by now resorting to a reference in Exodus, instead.
If we give scriptural consideration to the locust's scorpion tails, their nature also becomes clear 

(Rev.9:10; Eze.2:6; Luke 10:19).
(LINK: "Tails, Stingers, Scorpions")

God is free to discipline His own people (to "seal" them as His own slaves) (Heb.12:6; Job 23:10).
At Zech.13:9, God is said to discipline and refine "one third" before calling them His people.
If we return to Rev.9 to see how people respond to the discipline that chapter contains (including the locusts), we are told that "two thirds" do not repent/accept discipline/become refined (Rev.9:18,20-21). The "one third" is "killed" (Rev.9:15,18; 11:3,7; 6:9,11; John 16:2; Mark 13:12-14; 8:35).

"Rather than ravage vegetation, the symbolic locusts swarm against “those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” (Rev. 9:1-4)"
Of course, they fail to see the connection to Rev.7:3.
The "vegetation" is only guarded from "ravage" until the UNsealed, become sealed (1Pet. 4:17 LINK).
Again, their lack of spirit makes them assume the obvious, which is not the deeper truth.
Although the "unsealed" seem rejected... in truth we are all unsealed, until we become so.
We see that once those faithful are sealed... the "ravage" does break out on the "vegetation" (Rev.7:3; 8:7) (Isa.5:24-25) (2Pet. 3:7; Rev.20:15).

"John no doubt knew how devastating a locust swarm could be. Had not locusts plagued ancient Egypt in Moses’ day? (Ex. 10:12-15) "
"No doubt", John did. In fact, they are the very cause of the Greatest Tribulation (Joel 2:2; Matt.24:21-22) (greatest-tribulation).

Just because God sent locusts upon the Egyptians...
does not mean that the locusts cannot come upon God's own people for discipline as well. The WT seems to think that discipline is only for others, that they could not be among the "unsealed" men, and so they conclude that the proud and punishing locust-scorpions, must be themselves
 (Amos 9:8-10;  1Thess. 5:3; Rev.18:7).
(Amos 9:9,1; Luke 21:35; Rev.3:10; Matt.24:22,39)(Rev.12:15-16) 
("Earth"? >> who-is-earth) ("Earth swallows River")
(Jer.1:14; 47:2-3; Mal.4:5-6; Job 22:16; Luke 6:48) (Gen.7:24; 8:3; Rev.9:10)  

150=5X30 (5 months X 30 days each = 150 days) (Matt.24:39; Rev.12:15,16) >> (LINK)

As regards the rest of the paragraph....
"The figurative locusts that John saw well illustrate anointed Christians proclaiming Jehovah’s powerful judgment messages. They are joined now by millions of companions with an earthly hope. Little wonder that our united preaching undermines the authority Satan exercises through his worldwide empire of false religion."
....note that there are no scriptures (John 7:18,16-17; 16:13; Rev.22:6).
Regarding, "They are joined now by millions of companions with an earthly hope"...
   ...where is there a scripture that states that the locusts are joined by others?
   ...where is there a scripture that shows that anything comes out of the locust's mouths ("proclaiming messages")?
Are not locust's mouths known for devouring and swallowing (Nahum 3:15; Joel 1:4; Ex.10:12-14) .... not giving forth?
No, a "plague/curse" of locusts are for destroying... not proclaiming life-saving truths (John 10:10). The locust-scorpions of Rev.9 are instead said to "sting".
The Bible clearly tells us the purpose of that power (1Cor. 15:55-56) (Eze.2:6; Luke 10:19) (Rev.9:10).  Those with stingers inject sin into their victims... sin that brings forth paralysis and death (Rom. 5:12; 8:2;  1Cor. 15:56).  The identity of the "man of sin" who gains power over the unsealed anointed, is also described in 2Thess. 2:3,4; Rev.13:7; 9:10.

In stating that the TAILS have death's stingers (Rev.9:10;  1Cor.15:55,56) like scorpions (Eze.2:6);
these locusts deliver lies/sin/death, sourced in the abyss from whence they came. 
The Locust-Scorpions are in subjection to, and under the direction of, that last False Prophet/Wormwood/Fallen Star (Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,2,3). In servitude to that last Harlot, these Locust-Scorpions prophesy lies themselves (Isa.9:15,16; Rev.16:13). 

When these Locust-Scorpions falsely prophesy the Harlot's wormwood lies, what is the result to those who accept/receive/ingest those false doctrines?
Although the Harlot's lies may taste as sweet as truth (Ps.119:103,98; Eze.3:3), the result is death (Rev.10:10; Prov.5:3,4,5; 7:27; 2:16,17,18,19; Isa.28:14,15; Rev.8:11; Deut.32:32; Rev.17:2). Those Chosen who remain under that power, remain in death. They are in subjection to Satan, through his agents, and they remain under the power of the Abyss and it's destruction... unsealed as slaves of God. They are obedient to doctrines of demons, rather than obedient to the teachings of God and Christ. (Mark of slavery) (666)
(Deut.11:18; Rev.13:16) (Rev.14:1)

The WT teaches that Jesus Christ is the Destroyer... Despite Isa.33:1 and Ex.12:23 (Job 2:6) (Luke 22:31) (1Cor. 10:10; 5:5).
Yet, what do we expect?... Remember... the Wild Beast collective of Locust-scorpions is specifically spoken of as being blasphemous (Rev.13:5-6). 
The "False prophet" who empowers that Beast to dominate the anointed (Rev.13:14-15,7), "speaks like a dragon" (Rev.13:11) and teaches "doctrines of demons" (Rev.16:13-16; 13:11;  1Tim. 4:1).

There are many more scriptures which prove these things, but I hope the ones cited here are enough to convince you beyond doubt, that the Gentile WT is the "disgusting thing, standing in a holy place" (2Thess. 2:4; Matt.24:15; Dan.11:16,21-45) 


Thanks for writing to me. I hope you and your family are doing okay.

Love in Christ,
Pearl


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Saturday, September 7, 2013

"5 Months" / "Elijah"

This post is written as a continuation....
a Conclusion to the post of Sept.6, 2013, 
located here: "Tails"-"Stingers"-"Scorpions" - Rev.9:10.
It is lengthy, so I suggest that a section can be read at a time. 
Please do not neglect reading the scriptures.
Love,
Pearl
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CONCLUSION:

It has already been discussed, both by the "Watchtower" organization,
and within the article "Revelation 9", that
"five months" is the life-span of the literal locust. 
(See "Revelation Climax" Book; page 146; par.16)
Rev.9:10 's "five months" is then interpreted as meaning that the "Locust-Scorpions" will torment the unsealed for the "Locust Scorpion's" entire lifespan.
I will return to discussing this particular interpretation at the end of this post. But first, I will introduce additional scriptural information about the interpretation of this symbol of "five months".

For the most accurate interpretation of Revelation, we must let ourselves be completely guided by God's Word (Gen.40:8; Dan.2:47; John16:13; 7:16,17). By this means, our "eye"/lamplight, remains "simple" and bright, based upon the sound instruction of Christ (Matt.7:24; Luke11:34; Ps.119:105). To divert from this, means spiritual darkness (1Tim.6:3,4; 1:3). 
For any symbol used in Revelation, we must search scripture for the Bible's own definition of a term, as if we were digging for treasures (Prov.2:1,2,3,4,5,6; 12:24; 1Tim.4:13,15; Matt.13:44; Prov.23:23; Rev.3:18). Those not so inclined will lose their calling (Matt.13:12; Luke16:3; Matt.25:26; Rev.3:2).

Not all connections between a term and it's scriptural definition are obvious. The Bible's own explanation of a symbolic term, may require perceptive discernment (Matt.11:15; Rev.17:9; 13:18) and Holy Spirit to decipher (John16:13; 14:17,26). Such is the case with understanding the meaning behind "five months".
The only other places in the Bible that I know of, where "five months" is mentioned, (besides Rev.9:10) is where God's Word will afford us our interpretation.
We find those clues, at Luke1:24 and Gen.7:24.

We must first see what Luke1:24 and Rev.9:10 hold in common.

While the men are enduring their tribulation and captive torment at the hands of the "Locust-Scorpions", they are as yet "unsealed" (Nahum 3:16; Amos 7:1; Joel 2:25, 2,10-11,13,17; Rev.9:3-4) (Rev.7:3; 9:4) (LINK). This is previous to their release/spiritual re-birth/seal (Eze.34:27; Rev.9:14; John8:32; Isa.61:1), as a new creation (2Cor.5:17; Gal.6:15; John3:5). 
That spiritual birth is through a mother covenant in heaven (Gal.4:26) (and through those sealed into "her"), who shares in this tribulation, until her unsealed "son" is completely born/sealed (Rev.12:1,2,5; John16:21,22,20).

----THE SPIRIT AND POWER OF ELIJAH----
                       HIS PURPOSE

The son of Elizabeth was prophesied to have "the spirit and power of" an "Elijah" Herald...
chosen to "prepare the way before the Lord's" arrival to God's physical Temple in literal Jerusalem, to return the repentant among Israel, to their God (Luke1:13,16,17; Matt.17:10,12; Matt.11:9,10,14,15) 
(Elijah turns the hearts).

The son of symbolic "Sarah"/Jerusalem above (Gal.4:22,24,26,28; Rev.12:1,2,5; 2:26,27), is promised a reign with Christ (Gal.4:28; 3:29; Gen.22:17,18). This "seed" who inherit the promises given to Abraham, are "trees of life" that will bring "blessing to all the Nations"... (Gen.22:18; Rev.22:2,3), both now... (Matt.7:16,17,20; John15:8; Matt.13:12; John15:2; Matt.7:19,21) and in the eternal Kingdom to come (Matt.25:23; Luke16:10) (Isa.9:7; Dan.2:44; 7:14,18,22,27; Rev.21:2,3,4,5). 

The final remnant of this chosen group also produces an "Elijah" Herald...
(Dan.12:1,2,3,4,9,10; Rev.11:3,4,5; Zech.4:2,3,11,12,14; Luke9:29,30,32; Mark9:1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12; Matt.17:11; Acts1:6).
He is chosen to prepare the way before the Lord's" arrival to God's spiritual Temple...
and to call symbolic "Jerusalem" to return to their God. (Matt.25:6; Rev.9:13,14; 14:7; 16:12; 19:7,8,14; 17:14; Isa.40:3; Mal.3:1,2,3,7; 1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5,9; 4:17; Luke21:36,22,24; Rev.13:10,7; Dan.7:21,25; 8:24; 9:11,16,18,19; Rev.8:3,4)

(This is more closely examined under another post about the Two Witnesses. CLICK HERE: http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/two-witnesses-elijah-and-moses.html)


---HIDDEN FOR FIVE MONTHS---

Previous to that birth, both mothers (Elizabeth and heavenly "Sarah") and sons (John and "Elijah") are secluded away/hidden from view... for a time...
for "five months".
(This hidden condition was also the case with the newborn Moses -Ex.2:1,2,3 and with Jesus -Matt.2:13)

You may note that shortly after this five month period of Elizabeth ends, confirmation comes concerning the arrival of the Christ (Luke1:26,27,31).
(Luke1:57; Rev.12:5)
Upon the circumcision of this chosen Herald, John, (Luke1:59,60,63,64), Zechariah publicly decrees the assigned name and role of his son, his speaking ability returns, and he is made able to prophesy (Luke1:67-80 -click on to read). That circumcision/cleansing, happens to the final Elijah as well (Rom.2:28,29; Mal.3:3; Rev.3:18).

----SILENT FATHERS----

It is significant that throughout the incubation of the Herald prophet John; his father Zechariah, is silent. This also happens with the final Herald, who also arrives in the spirit and power of Elijah. (Luke1:17,20; Matt.17:11)
Who is the father of this final prophet, who "restores all things"?
Jesus himself becomes the life-giving father to this anointed prophet (Isa.8:17,18; Heb.2:12,13,14; Isa.9:6; John5:21; 6:57; Ps.45:16; 1Cor.15:45; Rom.8:2; Col.3:4; Phil.3:21).
Jesus causes these "firstborn sons" to rise first (John5:28; Rev.20:6; James1:18; Rev.14:4), bestowing upon them their immortal spirit lives (1Cor.15:53,54; Rom.8:13,14).

How is it then, that this "father" of the final "Elijah" prophet, becomes silent until this "son" is born?
Prophecy tells us.

---THE SOURCE OF TRUTH AND LIGHT----

The light of spiritual truth comes from the face of Christ (John1:4). This is why his face, is compared to the sun (Matt.17:2; Rev.1:16; 2Cor.4:6; Rev.22:16; Luke1:78; Acts3:20). He is the source of all light for this earth.
Yet, for a time, that light is withdrawn (John11:9; 9:4,5; 12:35). During that time, priestly declarations of truth from Christ, become silent (Rev.8:1; Heb.13:15; Dan.8:11; 11:31; 12:11). 
Why? 
Because his priestly slaves are no longer serving him, while they are subservient to the Wild Beast and undergoing trampling by it's agents (Rev.13:7; 11:2; Dan.7:21,25; 8:24; 9:11). 
These priestly "stars" of heaven have been thrown down and trampled (Rev.12:4; Dan.8:10). During this hidden period they fail to shed their light (Joel3:15; 2:10; Eze.32:7; Mark13:25; Rev.6:12,13; Matt.24:29; 5:14,16). You may have noted, that during this same period of darkened stars...
the sun also is darkened.
This returns us to the silence of the face of Christ, previous to his sealed sons coming forth from the womb of the dawn (Hosea13:13; Job 33:24,28; Ps.110:3,5; Isa.60:1,2,3,20; 17:14; 2Pet.1:19; Luke1:78; Rev.2:26,28,29; 22:16).

By the association of "five months" at Rev.9:10 and Luke1:24; we see a correlation being drawn between John the Baptist and the final Heralds.
The final Elijah belongs to the heavenly "woman"/New Covenant, with Christ as his "father".
He is a Herald... sent by God to prepare for the final arrival of Christ to his anointed Temple, and to "restore all things" (Mal.4:1,2,3,5,6; 3:1; 1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20,21,22; Rev.22:3).
(Elijah turns the hearts)

Spiritual Jerusalem NEEDS to be restored. After being "trampled" "for seven times";...she lies in ruins. Her "walls" needs to be rebuilt (Dan.9:24,25; 8:13,14; Rev.11:2; Luke21:24,25,17,18,19) as prophetically depicted in Nehemiah chapter 2.

Now for a comparison of Rev.9:10 to Gen.7:24 and Gen.8:3

A Jewish Lunar month spans 30 days.
"5 months" is equal to (5X30=150) 150 days.
These two terms are equal.
Like John, who was "hidden" for 5 months;
the "earth" is hidden in darkness under a constant deluge of the "floodwaters" 
(Ps.66:12; Isa.51:23; 57:20; Dan.9:26; Nahum1:8; Jer.51:42), for 150 days...
and after ten months, the "tops of the mountains" became visible (Gen.8:5; Eze.29:1,2; Isa.28:18,19; Eze.17:23; 36:8; Ps.72:16).

----FIVE MONTH LIFESPAN----


Regarding the interpretation of "five months" as referring to the lifespan of the locusts...
please consider that the moment at which a Chosen One breaks off their subjection to these "Locust-Scorpions"; those tormentors lose their battle/power; and by the righteous victory of the Chosen One, those tormentors are judged / condemned. 
When the torment ends and the released Chosen One is sealed/born...those "Locust-Scorpions" are then considered by God as spiritually dead...
hence their lifespan concludes.

While a Chosen One is sinning by means of their subjection to men/Locust-scorpions/Wild Beast/Organization...
(instead of to God)
this voluntary idolatry justifies the torment of the Locust-Scorpions (according to divine justice). 
When a captive chosen One repents, is set free, and becomes sealed...
the unrepentant agents of Satanic torment (Locust-Scorpions)
lose their lives in God's eyes. The "five month" period they were "granted" to torment the "unsealed", expires.
Rev.9:10
These are not literal locusts, but men... "elders"... counterfeit Temple priests serving the "fallen star", "Wormwood"/False Prophet,
right in among the genuine priests (2Thess.2:4; Matt.24:15).
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In reality, their lifespan should be 70-80 years (Ps.90:10). 
But because of their choice to fulfill this role in prophecy; their spiritual lives are cut short, as if they were mere repulsive insects, which comprise a loathsome plague.

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Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Wild Beast and it's ten horns

PART ONE

Pearl...you said,
"The anointed inside that are not the GB, are the ten kings who rule with the wild beast."
About the above quote,
if you are anointed, then while you were a JW, you must have in some way been part of the wild beast.
Is this why you had to leave the Org.?
So in what way were you ruling, because that's what a "king" does?
In what way were you a king ?
Was this because being there you added "credibility" to the Org?
       
REPLY:

You are right. You need to go to the scripture. 
It is Rev.17:
12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 

These kings are also described at Rev.6:15; 17:2,12; 19:19.
These kings are called "the kings of the earth".
If you go to Rev.1:5-6; 5:9-10, you will see that Jesus is King over these.
Yet, Those who JESUS rules, cannot be worldly kings, because HIS KINGDOM "is no part of the world". John 18:36
Rev.5:9,10 and Rev.1:5,6 confirms that these are the anointed.

Rev.17:12,13 above, helps to see that they do not have a kingdom, and that they give their future crowns to the beast Rev.17:17 ("no kingdom as yet").
[Anointed do not receive their kingdom, until they prove faithful (Rev.3:21;  1John 5:4)]
As part of the idolatrous Image of the Beast, they can only receive honor and authority, in alliance with the Beast. 
Anointed elders only get the same authority as non-anointed elders ( with the beast).

Anointed are recognized, honored to partake, and are counted.
But no anointed can have any authority above the Beast, only with it.
(except of course, the Harlot GB)

As you can see, those kings inside do not rule,
but they do accept the approval of men in exchange for the approval of Christ (Rom.1:25).
The society teaches that the kingdom began in 1914, so these ones (as long as they are faithful to the GB) and are with the Beast...they are considered king designates.

The Org. and GB also know, that as you say, there is no credibility to this religion, without the anointed.
Without them, they are the same as every other church.

Since the ten kings will be destroyed along with the Beast (Rev.20:10,14,15), anointed do have to be "plucked out" of the Org/beast (so to speak), if we are to remain standing during Jesus' inspection of his slaves (Dan.7:8,5; Matt.25:19; Luke 21:36).

Thanks for asking. Please let me know if this is still unconvincing, or if you still have a question.

PART TWO

Pearl, you gave me Rev.17,

"12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 
If they are already kings,but wait till the one hour to have authority..how can the beast turn on the harlot ? this means any anointed who aren't part of the GB,but part of the Org/beast,turn on other anointed. is this the period Jesus spoke of as the wicked slave beating its fellow slaves ? DFing anointed by the anointed in the GB counts as that 'beating' doesn't it ?
The beast seems to only have power for one hour..compared to the rest of the time of its existence..or is the one hour referring to the time of turning on the harlot. It must include that,but I'm getting at is,the beast has had power all during these many years,but "authority" must come from somewhere to kill the harlot in that "one hour".
How can the org..beast..continue without the harlot/GB. This means that the org will have no direction?


REPLY:

The "kings of the earth" are not already ruling kings, because they have not yet received their kingdom.
I don't really understand your first question. 
It may help to consider that they are only kings with the Beast (in YHVH's eyes) because they have already been anointed. 

(Once David was anointed as King, everyone knew who the king would be, but he didn't begin his reign, until Saul was finished.)

As Paul said at  1Cor.4:8,
You are already full! You are already rich! You have reigned as kings without us—and indeed I could wish you did reign, that we also might reign with you!

Paul did not say the anointed are NOT KINGS, He said that they began their reign prematurely, and should wait to receive their rule when God's kingdom comes and God gives their final inheritance to them (Mark 10:40,42,43,44). 
Otherwise, they rule physically, during THIS world, under Satan, ahead of time (John 6:15; Matt.4:8,9;  1John 5:19 b).
This is exactly the case with these 10 kings, as well as the GB.

The one hour is likely the last hour...when the Beast becomes the eighth king (Rev.17:11; Dan.7:8;  2Thess.2:3,4,9). It itself rules, after it gets rid of the Harlot ruling over it (Rev.17:16,17). 
By "killing" the Harlot, the 10 kings have taken action as reigning Kings with the Beast...ruling. They are successors to the GB anointed...But not without the Beast. They are always part of the Beast...the Beast's horns (Rev.13:1; 17:12).
Yes,
you are correct...the anointed kings who rule with the Beast, will, with the Beast, turn on the GB (Rev.17:16,17).
To make this plain,
the Organization of elders, overseers, and committees (anointed or not),
will all decide that the GB must go.

When the 10 king anointed turn on the Harlot, this is not the period that Jesus spoke of as the Steward beating his fellows (Matt.24:45,48,49). 
This is the point where the Harlot is punished for being  the Steward who beats his fellows (1John 3:10).
The Steward beats the slaves UNDER him. 
The Harlot is not under anyone human**. She is OVER the other anointed inside the Org.. She is the Steward, previous to the Beast's attack. God promised that the Harlot would drink the same cup she dished out. (Rev.18:5,6)
When the Beast gets sick of her and her exposed sins, her hour to pay the piper, will come.(Rev.18:8)
**[While the last harlot reigns, she is "under"/serving, her mother covenant (Babylon the Great -Rev.17:5) and Satan (Rev.9:11; 13:4; 9:1)].

Rev.17:12 DOES NOT SAY that the Beast only has authority for one hour. 
It says that the KINGS  rule ONE HOUR, WITH the Beast. The KINGs do not rule, until that one hour WITH the Beast. 

It does not say that the Beast is not already ruling. 
It already is, but not over the Harlot...but within all the congregations (Rev.13:2,5,7,8; 9:3,5,7) which include the ten kings.
 The GB rules all, through the elders (rides the Beast) Rev.17:3,15,18. 
This is why the locust scorpions have "what seems like golden crowns". Even while wearing those crowns, they are under the fallen star who gives them their authority/power (Rev.9:1,2,3; Isa.23:8-9); 
just as the two horned beast gives "breath" to the "Image" of the Beast (authority as "spirit directed") Rev.13:11,15; 9:1. ("He was granted power to give breath/spirit" (to Beast image) "to him was given the key" to give "authority" (to Locust/Scorpions)---same event)
--(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/02/who-is-false-prophet-who-gives-breath.html)
The GB/Wormwood is given power by Satan, to empower the beast/locust-scorpions/Image of Beast (Rev.9:1 "key"). The goal is for those locust/scorpions  to "sting"/persecute/paralyze/deceive, the anointed in the Org., so that they don't get sealed (Rev.9:4,5).
Another parallel is when the fallen star "Wormwood" (Rev.8:10,11;9:1), opens the abyss to release/give birth to/give breath to  the "crowned" locust-scorpions/wild beast image (Rev.9:2,3; 13:15).
This image which is given breath, is then seen as having breath/spirit.
In the Bible, "spirit" and "breath" are the same word )(Greek:pneuma/Hebrew:nephesh) Gen.2:7; Ps.146:4
The "image"/idol of the Beast, is then seen as "spirit directed".

The beast has always had horns (Rev.13:1; 17:12). This tells us that it always had the anointed kings inside it. But those anointed could only rule as the elders are permitted to do, just like the rest of the Beast/non-anointed elders ("with the beast" Rev.17:12). 
When that one hour arrives, the anointed inside the Org. will join with the Beast in turning on the GB. When the Beast rules without  the Harlot (as the eighth king), the anointed kings inside it will then "receive authority" with it also.
 This is a new reign, because it is free of the Harlot's dominion over it.
Yet the "one hour" need not only be a clue to chronology...but rather a comparison also... 
They gave up an eternal rule with Christ, for one hour to share authority with a wild animal...
animalistic men 
who have not been trained by, and who are not in subjection to, the Word of God (tamed)  2Pet.2:12; Jude 1:10.

The Beast got it's authority long before the one hour...right from Satan himself (Rev.13:2). 
The "Image" got it's authority before the one hour...right from Wormwood/FalseProphet/Harlot/GB/two-horned  herself (Rev.13:11,15).
At the time of birth, the Beast already had the 10 kings inside it / 10 horns (Rev.13:1; 17:12). (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/05/ten-horns-seven-heads.html)
The anointed inside only have authority as part of the beast (it's horns) if they too, are elders (WITH the beast).

Non-anointed Elders and overseers have held high office in the Organization for a long time. That power is growing in comparison to all anointed. 
If you have been paying attention to the changing doctrines being taught at WT Bible studies, you may have recognized that they are lowering the anointed more and more...and raising the non-anointed elders more and more (2Thess.2:4; Ec.10:5,6,7; Dan.8:11,24; 12:7; Rev.11:2; Matt.24:15). 
This has enabled the disfellowshiping of the anointed who reject the false teachings and false authority of the Beast/elders (Rev.13:15; 11:7). To do so is to reject the Image that this Org. of non-anointed elders is spirit-directed.
 But in time...this disrespect of anointed and the viewing of them as inferior to the elders, will finally come around to the GB. 
The Org. will realize the hypocrisy, and come to regard the GB in the same way as they do the rest of the anointed.
They will call them into account for their sins. They will finally see "her" for what "she" is (Rev.17:16,17; Nahum 3:5).

The Beast has always had authority. But it was given that authority from Satan, through the ruling  apostate anointed....the GB/Harlot/false prophet (Rev.13:11,12,15; Dan.8:24; Matt.24:49; Jer.51:7; Rev.17:2), who was given the key to Satan's Abyss (Rev.9:1), from where the Beast comes (Rev.11:7; 9:2,3; 13:1)   (Abyss=sea=deep=realm of the spiritually dead=pit).
The Beast rules without the HARLOT anointed, for one hour, as the eighth king (Rev.17:11). The ten kings (horns) inside the Beast, rule with it. 
They never rule without the authority of the Beast...but rather..."GIVE their kingdom to the Beast" Rev.17:17
[...the opposite of Jesus and the anointed, who never rule without the Father's authority (Rev.4:10,11), and give Him  all credit for their crowns].

The Org. is already almost fully independent from the GB. 
Over the years, the Org. has taken on more and more responsibility that the GB used to do. The writing committees now determine what material is put in the publications.
All Corporation decisions have been taken from the GB already. They are already reduced to figureheads. This occurred gradually over the years. The stage is set for the ridding of the Harlot.

PART THREE

Pearl,

You also said,

"and many are so afraid of the Beast that they walk away from truth."
This is what i don't understand..if you are anointed,then you must be sure of that..true ? Then how could anyone be afraid the Org. I'm still getting my head around the fact that the Org might be the beast...but if you are anointed, why be afraid ? Isn't Jesus going to back you. Are they afraid of being expelled ?

ANSWER:

The anointed are capable of unfaithfulness, despite the insight spirit has granted them. There were 5 foolish virgins (Matt.25:2).
You would be surprised how powerful the idea of being disfellowshipped is, especially for those who have families who have been "witnesses" for many generations.
This gives them a sense of pride. They don't want to face that the Organization is really the "abomination"...abhorrent and disgusting in God's eyes.
They don't want to lose their stature with men, given them by a glorious "mountain-like" Organization (Rev.8:8).
They know they will absolutely be disfellowshipped by non-anointed elders if they stick to truth (Rev.11:2).
And remember...
Jesus said that if the anointed don't keep holy spirit (because they are putting the Org. before God, Jesus, scripture, and truth)
then even what little spirit and insight they have, will be taken from them (Matt.13:12 b).
Without spirit, they can not "be sure of what is true".
Their lamps grow dark (Matt. 25:8; Luke 11:34).
Only those who love Jesus more than approval with men, are willing to be spiritually "killed" by disfellowshipping 
(Rev.12:11; 15:2; 13:15; 11:7; Matt.10:39; John 16:2; Mark 8:35).

You are as surprised as me, that the anointed are intimidated into subjection to the Beast, but it was foretold that they would be (Rev.9:4,5,10; 13:4).
They know they must submit or be disfellowhipped. They have no other choice...for "who can do battle" with the Organization, and win (Rev.13:4)???
Trust me...I myself and many other anointed can attest to this reality. It does not matter how many scriptures you bring up to reason with a judicial committee of non-anointed elders. If you don't accept the cerebral mark of slavery to the Organizational Beast....you're out! (Rev.13:15,16)
For many anointed with relatives inside the Org....they are older and have even been living at Bethel.
To accept the true identity of the Organizational Beast, means to lose everything of this life. 
Only if they are willing to join the group of "ten kings" and sacrifice their future kingdom with Christ by handing it over to the Beast (Rev.17:17),
can they avoid "death" (Rev.11:7).


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