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Sunday, December 7, 2025

God's Sabbath rest for His People [] What is Paradise?

Isa.29: "10 The Lord has brought over you a deep sleep: (1Thess.5:6-7; John 3:19-21)
    He has sealed your eyes (the prophets);
    he has covered your heads (the seers).
11 For you this whole vision is nothing but words sealed in a scroll. And if you give the scroll to someone who can read, and say, “Read this, please,” they will answer, “I can’t; it is sealed.” 12 Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, “Read this, please,” they will answer, “I don’t know how to read.”
13 The Lord says:
“These people come near to me with their mouth
    and honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me
    is based on merely human rules they have been taught."

Those who do not worship God in the way that He desires (John 4:23-24) because their worship is based upon human doctrine, fail to be granted the spiritual perception needed to attain insight and understanding of divine knowledge.
The consequences of worshiping according to human doctrine and commands of men 
(Matt.15:8-9; Col.2:22; Rom.10:2-3)...
Isa.28: "10 For it is:
    Do this, do that,
    a rule for this, a rule for that;
    a little here, a little there.”
11 Very well then, with foreign lips and strange tongues
    God will speak to this people, 12 God said to them, “Here is a place of rest; let the tired people come and rest. This is the place of peace.” But the people would not listen." (Isa.28:10-11,12)


Those who worship outside the realm of divine truth will be unable to hear and grasp the true teachings, even when they hear them spoken. When their hearts are hardened and turned away, refusing to repent; God refuses to grant them rest and peace (Isa.59:8; Rom.3:11,17; Heb.3:10-11,18-19; Matt.7:21-22,23). 
Jesus is the source of true peace... the peace that results from attaining and taking in the water of life (John 14:27; 4:13-14; 6:63)

John 14: "27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid."
Isa.41:9-10,11-12,13
Matt.11:  "28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls."
 "yet you refuse to come to me to have life" (John 5:40) 
Luke 19:41-42

Those who do not have a love of truth are deceived through false human doctrine 
(2Thess.2:10; Eze.13:9-10;  2Pet.2:19;  1Thess.5:3; Isa.26:16-17,18-19,20-21). 
Those lacking love of divine truth do not prioritize turning to God's Word and Christ, rather than to men. They are therefore refused by God and Christ to be granted spiritual sight and the ability to hear divine spirit (Rev.2:29). To those deprived of spiritual perception, Christ's parables and the deep symbolism of prophecy are unreadable (Isa.29:10-11; Matt.13:19). These are refused the peace and rest that results from spiritual insight.
Jesus spoke of this...
Matt.13: "10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
11 He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 13 This is why I speak to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
    though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
“‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
    you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
15 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
    they hardly hear with their ears,
    and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
    hear with their ears,
    understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’"
 (Rev.22:2) -- (Link: leaves.html 
Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:27-28). 
He is the one authorized to grant or deny the peace and rest which results from possessing divine spirit and truth 
(Isa.22:22; Rev.3:7-8; Prov.3:1-2,3-4; Heb.4:1-2,9,6-7; Matt.13:15-16; Luke 1:79). 
He is also the one to grant or deny entrance into God's Sabbath rest, and access to God's Holy City. 
The source of divine spirit and truth is God's holy city... the garden of God... the paradise of God (meaning: garden of delights). 
Third Heaven, is Paradise (2Cor.12:2,4; Rev.2:7; 22:2,14) where fine trees that yield the fine teachings of truth (Matt.13:52; 6:21; 12:35; Luke 6:43-44,45; John 15:16,8). 
       ( LINK: the-third-third-heaven.html )
Not all are granted access 
(Rev.22:14-15; Matt.18:3; Rev.22:19; 21:2,9-10,23-24,25-26,27,6-7; 22:17; 14:13). 
This means that not all can derive spiritual sustenance from divine truth. This is symbolically depicted as not having access to the trees of life. Those outside the holy city have manifested their unrepentant preference for human doctrine (Rom.1:25;  1Cor.10:14).

God's Sabbath rest is a gift to the faithful 
(Isa.26:2-3; Mark 2:27-28;  2Sam.7:10; Eze.37:25; Heb.4:8-9; Rev.21:7)
There they find the provisions leading to lasting peace and rest.


Why did Jesus lack rest while he was on earth? (Matt.8:20)

At Gen.1:31 and Gen.2:1-2 we learn that when God saw that His creation was in good condition, he was then able to rest from His work. He Himself found rest and peace in the condition of His creation. Everything was set up so that it would perpetuate in a flawless way. This perfection was assured in the capable hands of Adam and Eve, as they remained guided by God through the teachings of the Tree of Life. God's forethought and planning was perfect, executed through the Logos. Creation's design had perfect maintenance built into it, and under this divine design there would be no unsolvable challenges.

To illustrate, a woman may work all day to prepare a dinner party. Before the guests arrive, she sets the food out in warmers, the table is set, the beverages are on the table, and everything that her guests could need or want is within their reach. She sees that everything is ready and of fine quality as the doorbell rings. She is then able to sit down to the table with her guests, and enjoy the result of all her preparations.
She can relax with her guests, unless a problem arises.
If a guest enters the house with a large dog, who jumps up on the serving table and knocks things on the floor; the host must end her rest. There is cleaning to do, but there is also the need to provide new food to replace the original meal. Naturally, that is going to take time, a new plan, and work.

We can apply this simple illustration to what occurred when God hosted all physical life on this planet. As we read in the book of Genesis, God prepared everything to meet His standards of quality. When He finished and saw that it was all good, He entered His Rest.
When creation's perfect arrangement was disrupted by sin and death, God also ended His rest. As Jesus told us in the first century:
"17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.... 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will. 22 For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son". (John 5)
There would have been no need for God to return to work if sin and death did not enter His creation. 
What work are we referring to?
God had to teach and cultivate a people as His own, so that through the faithful among them, He would revise the original arrangement, justify a new plan, and progress toward the establishing of a new creation. This would require a progression of covenants. He would uphold His commitments to the faithful among His people, and the faithful would uphold God's requirements. Such requirements were the judicial requirement needed to address the corruption of the original creation, and progress toward it's completed solution.
As long as God's creation is ruined by corruption, evil, and death; He can not look upon it, pronounce it "good", and take His rest. 
Jesus Christ is the most significant part of God's plan of restoration. He worked alongside his Father throughout history, even before his human life 
(1Cor.10:1-2,3-4; John 8:56-58; 1:1-2,3,14; Isa.48:2; Deut.8:15; Neh.9:15). 
Those who are anointed, also work in God's purpose of restoration, alongside Jesus Christ 
(Matt.11:29; Col.3:24; Heb.8:1-2,6; 9:11-12; John 2:19; Matt.16:18; Eph.2:10,20-21,22; 4:11-12,16; Rev.22:1-2,17)

The Logos was often "the angel of the Lord" referred to in scripture. 
To be an angel is to be a messenger. "Logos" means the Word of God, the one bearing and bringing God's Word (John 12:49). The Logos would also have been the one to inspire God's prophets as well, in guiding them in their message and declarations.

So what we are seeing, is that God's own rest and peace is interrupted when evil taints His creation. He does not rest when evil requires Him to address it with His divine power, wisdom, and justice. God went about identifying and implementing a solution that would address when creation fell into the hands of the Destroyer (Gen.3:15; Isa.33:1).
God also is robbed of peace and rest when His own people fall into the hands of the Destroyer, by turning away from His progressive purpose and turning toward Idols.
Num.14:11; Judges 2:12; Neh.9:26,30; Ps.78:39-40,41

By depriving of God of His rest and peace, they would not share in it when it finally arrives 
(Heb.3:10-11,12; Num.14:22-23; Deut.1:34-35;  1Cor.10:1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8,9-10,11-12)
We also must not find an apathetic rest and peace in a place of corruption (Micah 2:10). When we act in harmony with the standards of God, it allows God some rest along with us 
(Num.25:10-11,12-13; Isa.32:17; Ps.119:165; Prov.27:11).

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Here is the essence of how peace is achieved for God, so that He can enter His rest...
God says at Isa.62:1
  "For Zion’s sake I will not hold My peace,
And for Jerusalem’s sake I will not rest,
Until her righteousness goes forth as brightness,
And her salvation as a lamp that burns."

God's rest is associated with the establishing of an eternal holy city in which He will dwell.

and Psalm 132:13-14
  "13 For the Lord has chosen Zion;
He has desired it for His dwelling place:
14 “This is My resting place forever;
Here I will dwell, for I have desired it."


When Jesus came to earth, Jerusalem was not filled with Righteousness. Jerusalem's salvation was not a bright burning lamp of divine wisdom. It was not a place for God or Jesus to find rest in it's righteousness.
Therefore Jesus said; “Foxes have dens, and birds of the sky have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to rest his head.” (Matt.8:20) (Luke 19:41; 13:34)

How was rest achieved for Jesus?
He knew that by his faithfulness, he would provide the price for the achievement of God's place of rest 
(John 2:19-20,21; Eph.5:30; Heb.10:5; Col.2:19; Eph.2:21; Heb.8:2; Eph.2:10;  2Cor.5:17; Eph.4:23-24; 2:10; Heb.8:2; Acts 7:48; Rev.21:2-3,9-10; 22:14-15; Zech.8:3). 
God's righteous and holy City would be established and attained (Eph.1:10; Hab.2:3).

Rest: through Zion
Zech.8:3; Matt.17:1-3,4-5;  2Pet.1:17-18; Rev.14:1

Rest: through Christ, and preparations for his arrival
Isa.40:3-4,5; John 1:14,19,23; Isa.57:14; 62:10; 11:12,10; John 3:14-15; 12:32; Isa.35:8; Ps.107:7; John 14:6; Mal.3:1

Rest: through the righteous seed of Abraham / those of Abraham's faith / the house of God
Rev.21:3; Gen.28:16-17,19;  1Tim.3:15; Rev.11:11-12; Gen.28:12-13,14; Eph.4:8; Gal.3:29

Rest: through freedom from enemies, achieved by our work in support of Christ.
2Sam.7:10-11;  1Pet.2:1-2,3-4,5; John 1:23,29,31; Eph.2:20-21,22; Isa.28:16-18;  1Cor.15:26

Through the righteous work of God, Christ, and those who comprise the City of God; 
  God, Christ, Jerusalem, and all the new creation will once again have peace and rest. 
God will once again pronounce all He has made, as good.




Tuesday, October 21, 2025

The Third [] Third Heaven

I am in the process of writing this post.
I have published it, only because that helps me to write it and use the pop up scriptures as I write and edit. 
When the post is ready, I will remove this section.
UNDER CONSTRUCTION

To start with, here are two links that I previously wrote about this topic:

I thought I would provide another look at these two related topics.
First lets look at the 1/3rd and the remaining 2/3rds, and what the Bible has to say about these slices of a population. If we consider scriptures where these are mentioned, we can collect the details to construct a clear understanding.

Zech. 13:8-9; Rev. 8:12; John 12:35; Amos 5:18-20; Rev. 9:2-3; Joel 2:2; Isa. 59:9; Rev. 2:10; 13:10; 12:3-4,12; (*) 2Pet. 3:17 (ASV) ; Prov. 21:7; Matt. 5:13
Rev. 13:10;  2Thess. 1:4; Luke 21:19; 
Rev. 2:10; 13:10; Col. 2:8
Rev. 2:10; 9:15,18,20-21; 3:19; 2:16; 17:14;  2Cor. 12:2-4; Luke 23:43; John 17:24; 14:3; 12:26; Luke 10:20


Notes on above scriptures:
(*) Rev. 12:4...spirit birth occurs upon anointing. God's spirit/breath enters our heart like a baby's first breath.
Rev. 13:10 "patience of saints > Thess and Luke 21 above.
Second citation of Rev. 2:10 "prison" . Rev. 13:10; Col. 2:8
Third citation of Rev. 2:10 "faithful to death" > Rev. 9:18

John 14:3  By Jesus faithful death for truth, he exemplified the way to joining him in faithfulness in Paradise ...third heaven.

1Kings 3:18
...Although this verse does not mention 1/3, it came up in my search, and felt that it has relevance. I'll explain. It reads;
"The third day after my child was born, this woman also had a baby. We were alone; there was no one in the house but the two of us."
This is the story of two mothers. In the past we've learned that mothers symbolize covenants (Gal. 4:24,26,28). There is a mother covenant of life (Mal. 2:5;  2Cor. 3:6; Rev. 22:17) 
and one of death (Isa. 28:15,18; Rev. 6:8). 
In the account at 1Kings 3:16-18,19-21,22-25,26-28, 
both mothers give birth. One mother unintentionally kills her child and during the night, she switches the babies, stealing the live one. The thief feeds the live child, and places the dead baby who cannot nurse, at the breast of the sleeping mother. The real mother of the living child can see that the dead one at her bosom, is not hers. 
She takes the case to the judicial court of king Solomon.
Solomon decrees that the child be cut in two, and each half be divided between the mothers. The genuine mother surrenders her live baby to the thief, to save it's life. Solomon has made evident who the genuine mother is, and the child is then given to it's real mother.
I wasn't drawn to this account because of "the third day", but because in the testimony of the genuine mother, she says "there was no one in the house but the two of us". Yet it's obvious, that the third one in the house was the live baby. There were three, and the baby was the third.
Mother covenant members, symbolically breast feed the spirit of their children (1Pet. 2:2; Isa. 66:10-11). The dead baby could not feed on the mother of love. The live baby fed during the night, upon the breast of a mother who did not love the child. That false mother would rather see the live baby die, than have it returned to it's mother. Her vengeful jealousy and resentment may have likely culminated in killing the baby who was not her own. 
The stolen child needed to be saved and returned to it's real mother.
I see how this account contains the same pattern which applies to the experience of the 1/3 of scripture. They too, are stolen by the mother Covenant of Death... a mother that kills her own offspring. Once stolen, they are fed spiritual milk that is not suited for them, due to the selfishness of the false mother. That mother later demands that the child be killed with the sword. The 1/3 would have been killed sooner by Satan's agents, but the mother covenant of life surrendered the 1/3 in order to preserve their life for a period of time during the great tribulation... until the heavenly judge decrees that the 1/3 be returned to the mother of their spiritual birth.
After discussing the three heavens, I will continue with the topic of the "Third".


THREE HEAVENS
Above you see three sections of heaven depicted. The first shows birds in flight, navigating the air. I will associate this level as those who are "Called".
In the second level up, it would appear that spirit beings are in battle. I associate this level of the spiritual heavens, as "Chosen", because once anointed by God's spirit, we must defend the truth and battle with Christ's enemies (2Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:11-13; 5:11; Rev.12:7-9; Ps.110:1-2).
Finally, in the highest level depicted here, we see the Holy City, New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ, a dwelling of God's spirit to be with mankind. I associate this level as "Faithful".

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CALLED
Matt. 15:32; 14:15-16; Mark 6:7; 8:1,6-7; John 6:44; Rom. 1:1,7;  1Cor.1:2; John 17:17; Gal. 5:13; Eph. 4:1; Col. 3:15; Heb. 3:1;  2Tim.1:9;  1Pet.2:21; Matt. 20:16
Jesus said; “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them". To be drawn to Christ, is to be called. How are we called to Jesus Christ by the Father? What are we being drawn to, specifically?
We are told in John 1:14 that the Logos, the Word of God, is who Jesus was before his coming to earth as a man. As a man, he referred to himself as "the way, the truth, and the life". All three of those are manifested in scripture the Word of God, the Logos. We are being called, or drawn, to Christ.
The Way (Ps. 119:9-11,105; Prov. 4:11-12,18,20,22,25-27; 2Sam. 22:31; Isa. 2:3; Heb. 13:7)
The Truth (John 17:17; John 6:55 (ESV) ; Ps. 33:4; 119:160; Rev. 21:5)
The Life (John 6:63,68; 5:40; Phil. 2:16;  1John 1:1-3)
When we are drawn to Christ, we are being drawn to the divine truth found in the scriptures, the Word of God.
All of Christ's sheep are being drawn to him, the voice of truth from the shepherd of their souls. Yet some of these will be selected for a particular path in the course of God's purpose for them.
Being called to scripture requires that God enable that one to have a hunger for and a desire to search out divine truth (John 6:65). This is a necessary step for many who will follow the teachings and example of Christ. It is the first step for those who are purposed for third heaven.

So as we see the birds of heaven in first heaven, these can depict those being carried by the wind of God's spirit, to divine truth found in scripture (Isa. 56:8; Prov. 8:17; Jer. 29:13; Eze. 34:11; Isa. 40:11). One place where this ability of God's spirit is applied, is at Luke 17:37 (NKJV) in speaking of those called, drawn, and lead to the faithful slain, as eagles.
This calling is also for those of the heavenly calling, before their names are written in heaven as CHOSEN  (Luke 10:20). Whatever our place in God's purpose; all must be called to Christ... the way, truth, and the life.

CHOSEN
1Pet. 2:9 (chosen race Gal. 3:26/called you ^ John 1:9); Matt. 12:18; John 13:18; Acts 9:15; 10:40-42; 
(Rev. 19:17 (RSV) ; Rev. 19:18; 17:16 (Eze. 39:1,4,17-21,22-25,26-29)
Those who are purposed to serve as one of God's anointed priests and who are faithful with the first calling (Matt. 7:7-8), will be chosen. Being faithful in being called to scripture, involves a devoted searching and love of divine truth, and a commitment to obey it. Those successfully advancing in gaining Bible knowledge will be granted enough insight to equip them to challenge and expose false doctrine. Those chosen will gradually be equipped to teach divine truth and to defend it. This leads into a battle with demonic deception. It also leads into persecution and tribulation because Satan and the demons fight back in this spiritual enmity. Not all those chosen are willing to continue on the difficult path of Christ's example. Not all chosen continue on, to be designated by Christ as faithful.
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The battleground between divine truth and demonic deception is here, in "mid-heaven".
Rev. 8:13 (ASV); Isa. 1:4; 3:9,11; 5:18-19,20-21; 17:12; 30:1; 31:1; Jer. 13:27; 22:13; 23:1; Lam. 5:16; Eze. 13:3,18; 34:2; Hosea 7:13; 9:12; Rev. 2:20-23; Amos 5:18; Matt. 18:7; 23:13,25,27; Luke 6:25-26; 11:47; Jude 1:10-11;  1John 3:11-12; Rev. 2:14)
Rev. 14:6-7; 19:17-18
The angel that flies in mid-heaven who stands in the sun...
          (Phil. 4:1;  1Thess. 3:8; Mal. 4:2; Rev. 22:16)
...is in mid-heaven because that messenger is a chosen one, not yet finished completing a designation of faithful. All must endure to the end (Matt. 10:22; Rev. 2:25; 12:17,11).

Those who are chosen are expected to give God's warnings and pour out the wrath of his judgments.
The Chosen who battle against demonic deception, battle with Christ against the Devil and his angels (Rev. 12:7; 19:11-12,13-14,19). They are not the only ones called to the battlefield of mid-heaven (Rev. 19:17-18). Others are compelled to join in eating the flesh of those who enjoyed power and authority that was used against God's will. By eating the flesh, they are feasting on the sins of others (Hosea 4:8) (Rom. 8:5,4,6,13; Gal. 5:17-18,19-20,21; 6:8). 
There are many today that have extricated themselves from the Beast organization and its apostate leadership. Those who have suffered under the tyranny of that alliance can be found online, exposing the hypocrisies, falsehoods, abuses of power and shameless luxuries. This is depicted in the spirit realm as their feasting on the flesh of those who held such positions over them. Spirit is guiding those spiritual birds into the battle field, to join in the exposure and demise of God's enemies. Yet these birds do not always do so out of respect for God or Christ. Most do so for personal vindication, and they are welcomed to do so (Eze. 16:35-40; 29:5; Isa. 56:9; Jer. 12:9; Deut. 28:26; Rev. 17:16-17).
Although mid-heaven is where the Chosen will be found subduing the last of Christ's enemies 
(2Cor. 10:3-5; Eph. 6:12; 5:11;  1Cor. 15:26; Rev. 6:7-8;  1Cor. 15:54-56).



FAITHFUL
Mark 8:35; Rev. 2:10; 6:11; Rom. 14:8; Deut. 10:14; Matt. 28:18-20; Eph. 1:10;  1Cor. 15:25; Ps. 110:2; 
Rom. 14:8;  1Pet. 2:9-10; Rom. 9:25; Jude 1:21; Rom. 8:1-2,3-4; John 4:24; Rom. 8:5-6,7-8,9-11; John 6:63; Rom. 8:14-16,17-19; John 14:1-2,3-4,23-24,25-26,15; 15:20; Mark 13:13; John 16:33; Rev. 2:26; 3:21; 21:7;  1John 5:4; Mark 13:13; Rev. 14:12;  1Pet. 2:21; Ps. 18:25; 
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Contrasting unfaithful and faithful
Stewards/Managers: Why the need to be faithful?
1Cor. 4:2 
John 5:24; Luke 10:16; Matt. 10:40; John 8:12; Matt. 5:14-15; Luke 11:34; Isa. 5:20; Amos 5:18; Matt. 24:29; Rev. 9:1-2; 8:12-13; Luke 22:53 -- Rev. 8:10-11; 17:1,15,5; 18:2-3; Jer. 25:27; Deut. 32:32-33;  Isa. 28:7-8,15; Luke 12:45-46,47-48,40; Matt. 24:4-5,24-25
Links for more information:
Luke 16:10,11-12
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Neh. 9:6; Rev. 5:13-14; Ps. 100:3; Eph. 2:10; Isa. 64:8
Phil. 2:15; Job 22:12; Ps. 148:4; Heb. 13:15;  1Pet. 2:9; Col. 1:13; Eph. 5:8;  1Thess. 5:5; Eph. 5:11; 6:12;  2Cor. 10:4-5
Matt. 24:45; 25:21-23; John 21:17;  1Cor. 4:2; Eph. 1:1; Col. 1:7;  1Tim. 1:12; 
 2Tim. 2:12; Rev. 2:10,13; 1:5; John 12:24; Rev. 3:14; 17:14; 19:11,14,8; 6:9-11; 12:10-11; 7:13-14 (Link: "Antipas")

    Unfaithful: Ps. 69:26-28; Rev. 13:8; Job 17:4 (NIV)
    Faithful: Rev. 3:5; Luke 12:35-38,42-44

For deeper information other topics that were touched upon, here are 3 links:

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Those who are destined for third heaven, are described and designated in prophecy as belonging to the group which is referred to as the THIRD.
Next we will look at some of those prophecies, and especially in how that designation relates to the time of the End.
We will examine the Bible's meaning of the "third" as found in the following of Revelation's verses:
Rev. 8:7-8,9-10,11-12; 9:15,18; 12:4

Zech. 13:8-9
Rev. 8:7
Eze. 36:16-19,20-21; 38:14-15,16-17; Rev. 9:15-18,19-21; 20:7-9; Eze. 38:18-19; Rev. 20:9; 11:5
Eze. 38:16; Joel 2:2; Jer. 4:6-8,10-13,16-17; Luke 21:20; Rev. 20:9; Ps. 83:3-4,5; Jer. 4:20,23-25,28,26-27; Isa. 65:8; 

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"ALL THE GREEN GRASS WAS BURNED UP"

Rev. 8:7  Grass = Mankind (made in God's image -Gen. 1:26)
1Pet. 1:24; Ps. 103:15-16 ("all the green grass was burned up")> Isa. 30:27; 42:25; ["the rest did not repent" (Rev. 9:20)/"they took no note" (Matt. 24:39)]
Eze. 21:31 (NIV) ; Ps. 21:9; Amos 7:4-5,8; Zech. 4:10 (NKJV); Eze. 38:19; Jer. 11:17; 
(all grass burned up/all mankind condemned) Jer. 4:25 (NKJV) ; Eze. 22:30; Dan. 11:16; 8:12; 12:7; Rev. 13:7; Dan. 11:33-34; Luke 21:24 ("all the green grass was burned up").
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Jer. 4:26-27; Isa. 65:8; Jer. 51:5-7,24-25; Rev. 8:8; (Jer. 2:34-35; 19:4; 51:35) Jer. 51:27,36,45,49; Isa. 51:17,21-23,3,7,11-12,13-14,15-16
Matt. 24:15-16; Ps. 121:1-2; Eze. 36:1-2,3-4,5-6,7-8
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(Obadiah 1:15; Rev.18:6; (Deut.21:17; Heb.12:23; James 1:18; Rom.8:23) Isa. 30:27; Matt. 10:20; Rev. 11:5; Rev. 20:9; Rev. 11:6 a; Isa. 45:8; 
 1 Kings 8:35-36,37-38,39;  Rom. 2:6,5; Rev. 22:12;  1 Kings 8:35; Deut. 18:19; Acts 3:23-24)
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Rev. 11:3,8-10; Eze. 37:4-6; Lam. 4:7-8,9; Rev. 11:11-12; Eze. 37:11-12,13-14,23-25,26-28; Eze. 38:18,21-23
Eze. 36:1-3,4-5,6,7-9,10-12,24-26,27-29,30-32,33-34,35-36; Mark 13:14; Matt. 24:15-16
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How must we respond to the Great Tribulation?
Rev. 8:7
Jer. 4:20,23,26,27; Isa. 65:8 (Must accept discipline and be found producing fine fruit (John 15:16,8).
Jer. 7:1,2,3,4,8,19,20,34; Joel 1:19,20,13,14,15; (Correct ways and actions/do not trust deception/turn to God in prayer for the priesthood/fast from previous provisions/gather anointed seeking restoration
Isa. 37:27; 
     East Wind (Jonah 4:8; Gen.41:6; Isa.40:7,8; Jer.4:11,12; Eze.17:10) (East:sunrising/Wind:spirit)
Rev. 16:8; Matt.13:6; Rev.8:7 /// Mal.4:1-2; Isa.48:10; Prov.17:3; Zech.13:9; Job 23:10
Isa. 51:7,12,13,14,15,17,21,22,23 [Do not fear humans, but testify a warning to them 
(Matt.10:28; Jer.1:17; Eze.2:6,7; 3:9; Eph.6:10,11; Phil.1:28; Isa.51:12)]
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Rev. 8:7 Grass = spiritual food for all life (sourced and dependent upon sons of God/trees of life)
Gen. 1:29-30; John 6:10,35; Rev. 22:16;  
* 2Sam. 23:4; Isa.51:12; Micah 5:7; Psalm 110:2-3; Rev.17:14;  1John2:14; Rev.12:7-9
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"A THIRD OF THE TREES WERE BURNED UP"
Jer. 11:16; Eze. 20:47; Joel 1:19; Matt. 7:19; Ps. 83:14-16
Isa. 30:30


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Monday, March 7, 2022

Seven Trumpets

Question Received:
Could you please explain to me about the seven trumpets?

My reply:
If you read Isaiah 58:1NIV and Revelation 1:10, you will see that a trumpet is a symbol for a voice. 
The 7 trumpets are 7 voices. Read Revelation 8:2,6,13. Those verses show us that the 7 trumpets are the voices of the 7 angels. 
The Greek word " angel ", means " messenger ". These are messengers sent by God, to His people. 
If you read Revelation 1:20 and Matthew 5:15-16 you can see that Jesus sends the messengers to his congregations/churches/houses of faith.


Who do God and Jesus, send to God's people, to bring a message from God? 
God gives the assignment to be a messenger ("angel") ...to His prophets. 
Read 2Kings 17:13;  2Chronicles 24:19; Jeremiah 7:25; 26:5; 44:4; Zechariah 7:12; Luke 13:34; Revelation 22:6. 
The prophets, are God's messengers. Angel means messenger (see links above). 
The numeral 7 is a symbol for prophetic spirit, either true or false. 
The prophets are symbolized as the 7 spirits in front of God's throne, because they prophesy by means of God's spirit. 
( Revelation 3:1; 1:20,4; Luke 1:67; Acts 2:18; 28:25;  1Corinthians 14:32;  2Peter 1:21; Revelation 19:10). 
They are also depicted as 7 lamps/torches ( Revelation 4:5 ), 7 stars (Revelation 1:20; 2:1; 3:1), and as 7 horns with eyes, upon the head of the Lamb, which is Jesus ( Revelation 5:6 ). 
    [ HORNS, mean kings ( as in Revelation 17:12; Dan.7:24,8,20; 8:20-22) Jesus has kings/horns (Revelation 5:6; 1:5; 17:14; 19:16; 21:24)]
These symbolic seven of those anointed kings/horns, are prophets, through which, 
Jesus extends his reign within his congregations (Rev.1:20; Matt.5:15; Eph.1:20-21; 2:6,20-21).

Prophets are given holy spirit, to bring a message from God, to His people. 
They are a lamp, because they bring spiritual light from God ( Luke 11:33; John 5:32-33,35; Revelation 4:5 NIV ). 
They are the eye, in the body of Christ 
(Matthew 6:22;  1Corinthians 12:27,12,16-17,21; Luke 11:34,36), 
who are assigned to keep on the watch ( Mark 13:34 NIV ; Luke 12:36; Revelation 3:20; 2:17 ). 

The eye can see. God's spirit gives the prophets His spirit, so that they can understand and perceive, divine truth. This truth is sometimes about the future, or about sins that others do not see. 
They must tell God's people His message, and give warning (Isaiah 58:1; Jeremiah 35:15; 44:4; Joel 2:1).
I hope you now understand, learning from the scriptures, what the 7 trumpets are. They are the voices of God's prophets.

Prophets are a part of the body of Christ (1Corinthians 12:27,7-8,10,28-29; Eph.4:11,7-8; 2:6; 1:3)
(Eph.4:8 NIV ; Heb.4:14 NIV ; Heb.2:4;  1Cor. 14:1;  2Cor. 10:5; Eph.4:8 NIV ).
That body is also depicted as the spiritual temple, consisting of God's priesthood (John 2:19,21;  1Corinthians 12:27; 3:16;  1Peter 2:5). 
The former priesthood, has also been depicted as having seven trumpet blowers (Joshua 6:8), 
which foreshadowed the heavenly reality (Heb.8:5; 9:11; Ephesians 2:6; Revelation 19:14; 17:14). 

Joshua 6:6,8

The prophets, share in comprising the foundation of that spiritual temple, along with the apostles 
(Ephesians 2:20-21; Revelation 21:14) (Acts 17:24; Hebrews 9:11).

Jesus said that what we speak with our voice, is coming from our heart (Luke 6:45; Matthew 15:18). 
When God puts His spirit in the heart of His prophet, that prophet then speaks 
(Galatians 4:6;  2Peter 1:21; Jeremiah 1:9; Matthew 10:20). 
When we speak or teach, we are pouring out our heart (Luke 6:45; Psalm 94:4)(Deuteronomy 11:18-19). 
The heart is symbolized by a cup or bowl (Matthew 15:18-19; Jeremiah 6:7; Matthew 23:25-26)(Lamentations 2:11 NIV ; Lam.2:19)
God's prophets, pour out the spirit in their heart when they declare the message of God (Matt.10:20).
That is symbolized by the pouring out of a bowl (or cup) (Revelation 15:7; 16:1,17; 17:1; 21:9; 15:7). 
The "bowl" (or "cup" in some translations) is a symbol for the heart (Zechariah 4:2; Psalm 23:5; Luke 6:45). 
When God's messenger prophet (angel) pours out God's spirit from his heart (bowl/cup), 
he prophesies with his voice (trumpet) (Luke 6:45; Isaiah 58:1). 
That is symbolized as an angel, blowing a trumpet (Matt.24:31; Rev.8:6).

  For more information about Trumpets, please consult the following link, which is this blog's search result for "trumpets". You can ignore the first post, because it is this one. You will find multiple posts as you scroll down the page of the link to follow:

Thursday, February 10, 2022

How does God, Destroy?

Comment received:
 Genesis 19:14-26 and other Biblical scriptures, portray Jehovah as a God of Destruction. He sent fire to rain down on Sodom and Gomorrah.

My Reply:
Yes, we do find scriptures where God is credited with causing destruction. If we do not look below the surface, we may ascribe to God directly, that destruction and ruin. If you are willing to derive truth from the Bible, about what is really happening, I offer it to you, below.
Please consider a few points from the Bible. As you learn from all these points, you will see the truth that lays below the surface.
We know that God allows the persecution of His servants. He is the Great Judge that oversees, everything (Dan.7:9,10,21-22,26-27). Whatever He does not permit, does not happen. Yet He allows, whatever is within His justice and will. 


What God permits, includes the testing and refining of His own sons, through Satanic persecution (1Pet. 1:6; 5:10; James 1:2,12;  1Thess. 3:2-4). Satan has demanded to test out any heirs that would replace the Devil's dominion over creation (Luke 22:31). Persecution is through Satan, and God allows it. God is not the source of what His sons must endure. 

We know that it was Satan who caused great pain and trouble to the faithful man Job. 
Yet, who was credited with Job's trials?
(Job 1:8-9,10-11,12; 2:3-4,5-6)
Note especially Job 1:11 ; Job 2:5 and the end of Job 2:3
Satan said to God,
"11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.’"
"3c "And he still maintains his integrity, though you (Satan) incited me (God) against him to ruin him without any reason.’"
"5 But now stretch out your hand (God's hand) and strike his flesh and bones, and he will surely curse you (God) to your face.’"

In all three references; God is credited with Job's persecution
because as Sovereign Judge, God has decreed His permission for Satan to proceed to test Job.
God has "stretched out His own hand", in giving Satan permission.
Yet, Job 1:12 and Job 2:6 make crystal clear, that Satan is the one who actually caused Job's trials.

Certainly, if God can give Satan permission to cause pain, grief and trouble to the righteous and faultless man, Job (Job 1:8);
He can also, in His justice, permit Satan to destroy a thoroughly wicked city, and be credited with that decision.
I'll make the point here, that God could have used Satan to rain fire from heaven on Sodom and Gomorrah. At Job 1:12,16 we see that Satanic power, demonstrated.

Please continue...

Jeremiah 13:13 reads;
13 "then tell them, “This is what the Lord says: *I* am going to fill with drunkenness all who live in this land, including the kings who sit on David’s throne, the priests, the prophets and all those living in Jerusalem."

If you compare Isa.28:7 and Micah 2:11, you will see that the drunkenness being spoken of, is the believing and teaching of lies and deceptions, false visions and unjust decisions. 

Can you see from Jer.13:13 above, that God took credit for filling the kings, priests, and prophets, with a spirit of drunkenness, so that they lead the people according to false teaching and injustice (Job 12:25)?

But, 
Is the "God of Truth" who cannot lie (John 3:33; Titus 1:2; Heb.6:18), really the source of this deception, false teaching, and injustice that the wicked leaders are practicing and promulgating? (1John 1:5-6)
How are we to understand 2Thess. 2:11,
which seems to contradict those other scriptures which assert that God is incapable of lying?
It reads;
"For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie".

All of our confusion is cleared away, when we see the simple truth of HOW the God of Truth,
"sends" out a spirit of drunkenness, deception, lies, false visions, false prophecy, and unjust decisions being rendered by the leaders of His people.

Observe, as the Great Judge, is in the process of sending out that deception that He takes credit for...
We have an insider's view, of how the drunkenness of believing and teaching falsehood (Matt.15:14), actually happens...
We have 2 Bible accounts of that court scene...

1Kings 22: "21 Then a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD, and said, ‘I will entice him.’ 
‘By what means?’ asked the LORD. 22 And he replied, ‘*I* will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets.’ 
‘You will surely entice him and prevail,’ said the LORD. ‘Go and do it.’ 
23 So you see, **the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours, and the LORD has pronounced disaster against you.”

  ----- So, "the Lord has pronounced disaster against you".....
 By the word of the Sovereign Judge, destruction ...is decreed.
God has given His permission to the lying spirit, to deceive the leaders.

Clearly, a "lying spirit" came forward in God's court, ready to be used by God, to discipline His people with the consequence that was due for God's people's unfaithfulness toward God. 
It is the "lying spirit" that is actually putting lies into the mouth of the prophets of God's people. 
Yet who gets the credit for deciding this? 
**"The Lord".
2Chron. 18:20,21,22 is another account of this.
We also get a behind-the-scene look at this happening again, at Rev.16:13-14...<< if you'd like to see that.

According to Jesus, the "lying spirit", is Satan (John 8:44).
Satan is also the "king of the abyss" who is called the Destroyer (Rev.9:11 NIV  ).
Isaiah 33:1  tells us clearly, what the future is for the Destroyer.

Now, we can get really specific. We can go to an account that names, "the Destroying Angel".
         ("Angel" means "messenger", and this is the 'messenger of destruction' often referred to in scripture) (1Cor. 10:6-7,8-9;  1Cor. 10:10 NIV  )

Remember when "God struck the firstborn of Egypt"?
Exodus 12 reads;
"12 ‘On that same night I will pass through Egypt and strike down every firstborn of both people and animals, and I will bring judgment on all the gods of Egypt. I am the Lord. 13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are, and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. No destructive plague will touch you when I strike Egypt."
Clearly,
God is taking credit for striking/destroying the firstborn of both people and animal. Verse 12 says that God is "bringing judgment" on the gods of Egypt. Again, as Supreme Judge, God is rendering a decision/passing judgment, to punish the wicked.

But is it God Himself who is doing the destroying/striking?
We find the answer, at verse 22-23 of the same chapter...
Ex.12:22-23 ...
"22 Take a bunch of hyssop, dip it into the blood in the basin and put some of the blood on the top and on both sides of the door-frame. None of you shall go out of the door of your house until morning. 23 When the Lord goes through the land to strike down the Egyptians, he will see the blood on the top and sides of the door-frame and will pass over that doorway, and He will not permit the Destroyer to enter your houses and strike you down".

Below the surface, we see the Truth.
Verse 23 shows us HOW "The Lord...strikes down the Egyptians" (Ex.12:23)
It also shows us HOW, God does the striking of the wicked, and guards the obedient of Israel (Ex.12:23).
How does the blood on the doorpost, protect God's people?
When God sees it; "He (God) will not permit the Destroyer to enter your house" (Ex.12:23).
*** Heb.11:28 ***
(see Strong's definition of "Destroyer", as a venomous serpent: LINK )(Rev.12:9)

Is the Destruction ("Abaddon") of Sodom and Gomorrah, any different from the destruction of Egypt?
It is clear from all these examples, that the Bible is teaching us, who does the destroying,
of both the wicked, and even the refining persecution of the righteous (Luke 22:31).
As 1Cor. 5:5 reads;
"5 hand this man over *to Satan* for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord."

If you are willing to simply learn about the realm of spiritual darkness and death (abyss/Hades), over which the Destroyer, is king (Rev.9:11);
I'm sure you will see with clarity, who the Destroyer, is... and that it is not the God of Love, Light, and Life (1John 4:8; Matt.5:44,45;  2Pet. 1:4; Ps.36:9)
.... nor His son, Jesus Christ.
Jesus is the image of God (Col.1:15). 
He said;
"10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full." (John 10:10)

What is the expressed will of our Father in heaven?
"9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is long-suffering toward us, not willing that any should be destroyed, but that all should come to repentance." (2Pet. 3:9)

"11 Say to them, “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?” (Eze.33:11)

"15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction....17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient (Num.32:15), and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed....19 This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live" (Deut.30)

--Who becomes lord and father over those who turn to, serve, and worship, false gods? Only then, does God state that such wayward children will be abandoned by Him, and destroyed (1Chron. 28:9).

It is God's expressed will, that none should come under the power and authority of the Devil, and as a consequence, reap destruction from the Devil (Gal.6:8;  1Cor. 5:5).
Of them, 2Pet. 2:12 reads;
"12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish."

Who is it that catches, ensnares, and destroys those who blaspheme?
2Tim. 2:25-26 ...
"25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will."

1Tim. 3:7 "He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap."

--- Trapping and destroying the unwary, is not of God.
(Ps.141:9; 140:5; 38:12; 31:4; Jer.5:26; 9:8;  1Pet. 5:8;  2Cor. 2:11)
Those who are caught and destroyed (2Pet. 2:12), are done so, by the Devil.

At Deut.30:15 we read that God provides our free will, with a choice between life or destruction.
Jesus spoke of that fork in the road, at Matt.7:13-14...
"13 ‘Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.'"

Walking the road that leads to destruction, is one of spiritual darkness... 
a mind blinded and led by, the Devil (Eph.4:18; 2:2; Col.1:21;  2Cor. 4:4). 
Destruction befalls those who are under the influence of Satan... not under the influence of God!
The way/road to life (Matt.7:14) IS the way of God, through Christ (John 14:6; 8:12) whose will it is that none be destroyed (2Pet. 3:9; John 10:10).

Those two paths and those who walk on each of them, are as children... each group as in service to and under the influence of, their own mother. 
These mothers are symbolic of covenants... 
one mother of life and freedom from sin,
one mother of death, enslaved to sin.
The children of each, are on the path of their own mother, leading to either light and life,
 or spiritual blindness and death.
(Rom.8:2; Gal.4:26,24; John 8:34)(Isa.28:15; Rev.17:5) Rom.6:16

Finally,
Isa.54:16 reads God as saying;
"‘See, it is I who created the blacksmith
    who fans the coals into flame
    and who forges a weapon fit for its work.
And it is I who have created the Destroyer to wreak havoc."

Once again, the Great Judge decided to allow Satan to live, even after Satan caused the fall of creation into sin and death (Rom.6:23;  1John 3:8).
At Isa.54:16 above, God reveals why this is so.
God uses the Destroyer of life as a weaponto bring havok on God's enemies.
Through their practices; Sodom and Gomorrah were enemies of God.
Yet as Isa.33:1 showed us; when Satan is done with his purpose of destroying, 
the Destroyer, will be destroyed. 
How? 
Psalm 104:29 explains. 

God is not obligated to continue to bestow His life-sustaining spirit (ruach/breath), upon the wicked, after their purpose in His will, is fulfilled (Ex.9:16).

Here is a link that examines the Abyss/Hades, over which the Destroyer is king ( Rev.9:11 NIV ).
Understanding the nature of that realm, will help you to discern who is king over it.

Lastly, I will say that the projection of "Jehovah" as a god of destruction and ruin, is actually correct.
The name "Jehovah", does mean destruction, mischief, and ruin. "Jehovah", is not YHVH's name.
These posts may interest you:
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What then, about the teaching of Armageddon, and that false teaching which asserts that God is going to destroy everyone? A faith based on scripture will also help to console us in that regard...

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