Who are "God's People"?

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A QUESTION:

"I want to ask you something with regards to the Bible students if I may.
Do not the Bible students come within the same or similar category as Jehovah's witnesses as Jw's beliefs were originally based of what Russell taught which as you know the Bible students still implement / endorse & practice these teachings to this day. When Rutherford took over the movement he changed much of the structure of what the witnesses originally believed in. 
So, would not the Bible students be classed as God's people, as well, along with Jehovah's witnesses?"

MY REPLY:

As a whole... neither "Bible Students" nor "Jehovah's Witnesses", are God's people.
How can I say such a thing?
Well, who is the only one who rightfully determines and designates the people of God? Is it not God Himself?

Remember who God Himself calls his people?

Hebrews 8:10 reads;

"But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day, says the LORD: I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."
These are those whom Jesus characterized, as those who worship according to spirit and truth [God's Laws in heart (by spirit) (Rom.5:5; 2:29; Col.2:11) and mind (by truth) (Rom.12:2; John 17:17)] (John 4:23-24).

Do you remember how this is symbolized, when a people have God's laws written on their hearts and minds?

Remember Deut.6:6,8?
"These laws that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads."

God told those who were His genuine people...

"Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads." (Deut.11:18)

Revelation is symbolic, because it reveals the spirit realm in physical symbolism, so that we who are physical, can perceive spiritual realities... IF we are granted that perception, by God's spirit
(Matt.13:10,11; 11:25,26,27; 19:11; Luke 8:10; Mark 4:11;  1Cor. 2:10,14,12-13; John 6:65; Col.2:2; John 14:21; Isa.29:11; Rev.5:1-2,9; John 15:15; Rev.1:1; 22:16,6; 11:3; John 8:17).

The scroll of Revelation clearly reveals two masters and their slaves..., 
who it is that have the laws of God, written in their minds and hearts;
and who it is that has the laws of the Beast written in their minds and hearts;

because these are depicted with this same symbol, 
on their forehead. (Rev.7:3)

That symbol would manifest, that God's servants have God's Laws written on their hearts, and that they were God's people, serving as His slaves.

Who are the people referred to, at Heb.8:10? (Deut.11:18)

"Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads."

"They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads." (Rev.22:4)

As you may conclude, God's marked people are His chosen servants/priests. This is confirmed at 1Pet. 2:9,10...

"But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy."

Can you see that God's people are those in covenant with him, who have had His laws written within their heart and mind, by God Himself?
Can you see that this is symbolized by bearing God's slave-owner's mark, on the hand (deeds) and forehead (mind)? These become obedient slaves of God's Truths, as expressed in His Word, the Bible (John 17:17).

Can you see that the work these slaves render, is to serve as priests, and to declare God's praises/ Truth? (1Pet. 2:9 above)

This is why God calls these, His "witnesses"...

“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,

    “and my servant whom I have chosen (1Pet. 2:9),

so that you may know and believe me

    and understand that I am he. (Heb.8:10)

Before me no god was formed,

    nor will there be one after me.

these people I formed for myself (Eph.2:10; 1:4; Heb.11:10; Isa.66:1;  1Cor. 3:16; 6:19; Eph.2:20-22; Titus 2:14;  2Tim. 2:21)

    that they may proclaim my praise."

(Isa.43:10,21)

(1Pet. 2:5,9)

Notice that God himself forms this people (Isa.43:21).

What people are those?

"For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works (John 15:8), which God prepared in advance for us to do. Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s holy people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets (Eph.3:4-5;  1Cor. 3:10; Rev.1:20), with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit." (Eph.2:10,19-22)

Can you see that the people which God himself forms, combine to form His spiritual Temple?

Again, 1Peter2 confirms that this is God's priesthood...

"you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual temple to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices (of praise), acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." (1Pet. 2:5)

Wrongly assumed to be God's people, both "Bible Students" and "Jehovah's Witnesses" are Satan's counterfeit temples/"mountains" (Rev.16:20; Zech.4:7; Rev.8:8), which temples, are made by men 
(Isa.66:1; Acts 17:24).
God's spirit does not dwell within such man-made religious organizations. 
(Acts 17:24; John 4:20-24). ("Organized Religion")

God's genuine Temple is spiritual... made by God Himself 
(Isa.43:21; Eph.2:10; Heb.11:10;  1Cor. 3:16; John 14:23,2,3; Eph.2:6), 
...in the "heavens" [(Rev.2:26,27) -Rev.12:5; Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22,23; 9:11; Phil.3:20; Rom.8:9].

Satan has devised these counterfeits
       (2Cor. 11:3-4,13-15; Rev.13:11,15; 16:13; Matt.24:4,5,24,25) 
       (pearl-666.blogspot.com), 
       (Rev.2:2; 3:9  "What is a 'Jew' / 'Gentile'?")
so that the genuine may be caught in those snares, and be overcome by a new master "father", and different covenant "mother" (1Pet. 5:8; Luke 22:31;  2Pet. 3:17; Rev.8:10).

Satan and his "bride/mother-covenant/abyss-womb" of deception and death, are physically represented and manifested, through his fallen stewards/wicked slaves/harlots (Rev.17:5) 
   (Prov.23:27; 22:14; 7:21,23,25-27; 5:3-5;     
    1Cor. 6:15; Rev.17:2) ("Who are Kings of Earth?"), 
and their counterfeit "temples"/"beasts".
("Is the Wicked Steward, Real?") 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=harlot+and+her+beast)

Those fallen unfaithful, former priests of God ("'Wheat' or 'Weeds'?") (Isa.1:21; 63:18;  2Pet. 3:17; Rev.8:10,11), are those whom Satan puts in charge of his prison/abyss (Rev.9:1) 
  [and it's Gentile spawn 
    (Rev.9:1-3,10; 17:8; 11:2; Isa.51:23; Ps.66:11,12;
        Ps.69:14,2,15; 88:6,17; Eze.26:19; Job 33:22 ) ("'Jew' / 'Gentle'")]..
These are the "seven heads"/kings, of Satan's organizational beast (Rev.17:9,10; 13:1,4), 
after these unfaithful, fail Satan's testing by accepting dominion, position, and power, in this world...

(Luke 4:5-7;  1John 2:15; Rev.9:1 -Rev.8:10). 
(https://pearl-leviathan.blogspot.com/)
...and use it to "beat" their fellow slaves (1John 3:12; 4:20; Luke 12:42,45; Rev.17:6) 
(Rev.13:11,15; 11:7; John 16:2).
These "seven mountains"/"heads"/"kings" (Rev.17:9), are the supporting foundation, upon which the mother-covenant of death (Rev.17:5; Isa.28:15), is able to "sit" (Zech.5:7-8,10-11; Rev.17:3,5).
(pearl-thewoman.blogspot.com)

This is the opposite of the "foundation" ["seven stars-angels" (prophets) and "12 Stones"(apostles)], 
upon which "Jerusalem" above (Gal.4:26), sits (Rev.3:12; 1:20; 22:6) (Rev.21:14) (Eph.2:20). 

The answer to your question, is the central reason why Revelation tells us, that such beasts are "covered with blasphemous names" (Rev.13:1; 17:3).

Do you understand that it is blasphemy, when the wicked steward wrongly claims to be God's faithful slave (Rev.2:2; Matt.7:15; Rev.13:11), or when those not spiritual Jews (Rom.2:28-29; Eze.44:7-9) falsely claim to be God's Temple 
(Rev.2:9; 3:9;  2Chron. 13:9; 23:6; Mark 13:14;  2Thess. 2:4; Dan.8:11; Rev.13:7; 11:2; Jer.7:4)...when in truth, they are an abomination of Satanic deception! 
("Disgusting Thing")
Such Gentile "elders", blaspheme against the genuine saints and priests of heaven (Heb.12:22,23; Eph.2:6; Phil.3:20; Rev.13:6)... "killing" all who refuse to worship and serve their collective "image", as God's "spirit-directed" organization (Rev.13:15).

That "abomination" is successful in destroying the life prospects of God's genuine people (Rev.13:7,8; Matt.24:4-5,24-25,22). That's why Jesus called it, "the abomination causing desolation", "as spoken about by Daniel the prophet" (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31; 8:13) 
(Jer.12:10-12; Matt.10:34; Rev.2:16; 19:15,19; 16:13-16; 13:10; Isa.63:18; Jer.6:3; Luke 19:43,44; 21:20,24,22; Rev.11:2). 
This is, the "operation of error" / "deluding influence", of 2Thess. 2:11 
(2Thess. 2:4; Dan.8:11,12; Rev.13:1,4;  2Thess. 2:9-12).

So, the scriptures compel us to conclude that as a whole...
neither "Bible Students" nor "Jehovah's Witnesses" are God's genuine people, according to God and His Word.

Instead, the anointed priests now captive within those two counterfeit organizations, are God's people. 

They have been taken captive, by deceptive reasoning 
(Col.2:8; Rev.13:10;  2Cor. 11:2,3,4,13-15,20; Rev.2:20;  2Thess. 2:1,2;  1Tim. 4:1; Rev.13:11,15,8; 16:13-16; 17:14;  2Cor. 10:3-5; Eph.5:11) and trampled out of their rightful position 
(1Cor. 6:2; 4:1; 3:16-17; Rev.5:9,10; Ecc.10:7). 

As a consequence to their subjection to this abomination (2Cor. 11:3,20; Rev.2:20; Matt.5:13), they have left their "mother" covenant of life and peace with God 
(and having His laws of truth in their hearts and minds) (Gal.4:24,26;  2Cor. 3:6; Heb.8:10),

to come under a different "mother" covenant... 
...the "covenant of death" (Isa.28:15; Rev.17:5) 
(Dan.11:30-31; Isa.24:5;  1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-16).
They then have demonic propaganda written on their hearts and minds ("Mark of Beast")
(Rev.13:16,17; Matt.25:9,10;  2Cor. 11:2;  1Tim. 4:1;  2Tim. 4:3). ("'Buying' and 'Selling'")
The name of that "mother" covenant of Death, is "Babylon the Great" (Rev.17:5).
Both "cities"/covenants, have inhabitants (Rev.17:1,5,15,18)
(Ps.46:4; Rev.22:1,2,14; 21:2,10; 11:2; Isa.52:1; 62:12; Dan.9:24) 
(Heb.11:10; 12:22-23; Rev.3:12; Phil.3:20) ("The Holy City")

This change of "mother" covenants has occurred, because these ones have accepted the laws and doctrines of demons, in their hearts and minds 
(Hosea 2:2-4; Rev.2:23,21-22; 18:8; Amos 8:11) (1Tim. 4:1;  2Chron. 18:20-22; Rev.16:13-16; 13:14-15,8,7; Deut.13:1-3). 

This is why the symbolic mark on their forehead, is that of the harlot's "Beast" (2Pet. 2:12; Jude 1:10; Rev.13:17,16) rather than of God (Rev.14:1; Deut.6:6,8).

This is why God's messenger cries out;

"‘Come out of her, my people,’ (1Pet. 2:9,10)
    so that you will not share in her sins,

    so that you will not receive any of her plagues'" (Rev.18:4)

Those people of God who have been deceived by Satan in his "short period of time"...
          (after his release from the abyss - Rev.20:7,8; 17:14; 16:13-16),

...must get out from under the covenant of death (Isa.28:15), get out of their relationship with "her" Harlot daughters (1Cor. 6:15; Rev.2:22; 17:2; 18:9), her army of "locust - scorpions" (Rev.9:7,10,8; Joel 1:6,4; Eze.2:6; Luke 10:19), and their deadly, demonic, wormwood lies (Rev.8:10,11) which lead to death (Rev.9:10;  1Cor. 15:55-56).
(tails-stingers-scorpions)

All must return to living waters of truth, through Christ's "virgin" Bride
(Matt.25:10; 22:8-10; Rev.19:9; 21:6; 22:17; John 7:38).

All these truths are basic to understanding the times in which we live, how they are effecting the genuine people of God,

and why Jesus called it, a "Great Tribulation" 
[Amos 9:9; Luke 22:31; Isa.30:28 (Rev.12:15; 14:20)]
 [Eze.5:12; Zech.13:9; Jer.46:28; Mal.3:1-3; Rev.7:14; 2:22,20; Neh.9:37,27; Matt.24:21 -(Joel 2:2; Rev.9:2-3,7,9-11); Matt.24:22; Dan.12:1,3]. 
(the-greatest-tribulation/what&why)

Does this mean that only the 144000 can belong to those who worship God in spirit and truth? No. A temple is constructed, so that those who are not the temple, can come there to learn and worship God (Isa.56:7; Mal.2:7; John 21:17; Isa.32:2). Priests serve the people, by providing the truth that God has put inside them, to yet others (Mal.2:7;  1Cor. 4:1;  2Cor. 5:20; John 13:20; Matt.10:40-41,20; Luke 10:16) 
(Rev.21:6; 22:1,2,17; John 7:38; Isa.43:19; 41:18; Rev.12:14,6; 11:3)
(Rev.22:2; Eze.36:8; Matt.24:16; 7:20).
("Who are the 'Fine Trees'?")

Just as the ancient physical nation of Israel had in their company, proselytes who also desired to worship God in spirit and truth, these priests can have in their company, those who will also gain life, by their association with God's Temple (Zech.8:23; Rom.2:28,29; Isa.14:1; Matt.10:41-42; 25:40,46). (Non-anointed benefits)
Such ones are symbolized, by the "colt" (Matt.21:2), who is with it's "mother" (Gal.4:26;  1Thess. 2:7;  1Pet. 2:2) 

(pregnant-woman-and-nursing-mothers). 
(Your king comes to you on donkey and colt") (Rev.2:14;  2Pet. 2:15-16; Jude 1:11)
Even such as these lowly "donkeys", can carry the manifestation of Christ's arrival (Matt.22:8-10; Rev.22:17).

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Salt

This post has been added to: 
"Is the 'wicked steward' real?"
as follows;

"It is a certainty that the Temple of God (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20,21,22) is trampled in the time of the end (Rev.11:2; Dan.12:4,1; Matt.24:9; 10:22; Rev.11:9,10,7; John 16:2; Dan.11:33; Rev.13:10)
(Isa.5:5; Jer.12:10; Rev.11:2; 13:7). Why does God allow this to happen?
Jesus tells us why God would subject His own Temple priests (1Pet.2:5,9) to endure this discipline (Mal.2:7-9; 3:1,2,3; Eze.44:10; Rev.13:8; Hosea 4:6; Rev.2:23,20; Zech.13:9; Luke 21:22).
Matt.5:13 reads;
“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot."
God allows His Temple priests to be trampled, because they have lost their "saltiness" (Num.18:19;  2Chron.13:5; Lev.2:13).
These have abdicated their royal and priestly authority (Luke 10:19; Rev.17:17) and have allowed the Beast to remove their continual sacrifice ("constant feature") (Luke 10:19; Rev.17:13) as priests and kings, in favor of subjecting themselves to the Image / Idol, of the Wild Beast! (Rev.13:7,8;  2Thess.2:4; Dan.8:11,24,25; 11:31,36; 12:11) (2Cor.11:20; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7,8). For these offenses against their God, they must be disciplined and refined! 

They are disciplined, by means of the very gods they have subjected themselves to...
the Gentile (not anointed "Jews" -Rom.2:28,29; Gal.3:29) 

    Wild Beast (Rev.11:2; 13:15,1,4 "from 'sea'" -Isa.57:20) 

   (locust-scorpion collective Rev.9:3,10), 
and 

    the false prophet that reigns above it / them.    

    ("second wild beast" from "earth" -God's people 1Pet.2:9,10/anointed -Jer.25:29,30) (Rev.13:11; 19:20)"

Some discussion about this subject, continues at the Forum, in a thread located here:
http://4womaninthewildernessforum.yuku.com/topic/55/Priests-of-spiritual-Salt#.VV4HGyFViko

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The sound of the Trumpet

       Prepare for this post with:
          "The Final Witness"

What is the meaning of the symbol of a trumpet?

Isa.58:1 NIV tells us.

It is our voice, when it assertively proclaims the sins of God's people to warn them while there is yet time for repentance.

    According to today's technology, our literal voice is not heard, but our message can still be dispersed and heard.

As prophecy declares of those belonging to heaven (Eph.2:6; Luke 10:20);

"3 They do not speak. They say no words.

Their voice is not heard.

4 Their voice goes out into all the earth,

and their word reaches the ends of the earth." (Ps.19:3,4).

    What seems like a contradiction, is perfectly feasible today.

  - (https://seven-trumpets.html)

    - (https://sun-moon-and-stars.html)

Rev.14:6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16 is so relevant for us now....

It's meaning and application must be interpreted for "Jehovah's Witnesses", if they are to heed it's warnings.
It reads;
"6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7 He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”
(This is addressed with a sign that reads;  "Watchtower IDOL is not Jah" and "Jah's Mountain = Zion -- not Watchtower".)

8 A second angel followed and said, “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great,’ which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”
[This is covered with a sign that reads; Gov. Bdy. = Wicked Steward = Harlot  and "Get out MY people" (Rev.18:4)(1Pet.2:10,9)]

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 
(This is covered by a sign reading; "Watchtower = Wild Beast" )

12 "This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus."
    (This verse adds the knowledge, that we who understand these identities and warnings, must patiently endure in our obedient witnessing and warning of those in captivity, just as Rev.13:10 and Col.2:8 affirms. Matt.22:8,9,10; Rev.22:17)

13 Then I heard a voice from heaven say, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.”
    [This is very appropriate to mention right here. Why? Because anyone who heeds these previous warnings, is going to be "killed" by the Beast, for discontinuing their worship of it 

(John 16:2; Rev.13:15; 11:7; 6:9,10,11)].

“Yes,” says the Spirit, “they will rest from their labor, for their deeds will follow them.”
    [those who do act on the warning we give, will enter God's "rest" (Heb.4:9,10,11; Isa.57:2,1). Their sacrifices will be rewarded (Eph.3:10;  1Pet.1:12; 4:6; Mark 8:35;  2Cor.5:10; Matt.16:27; Eze.18:20)
(Heb.4:6; 3:18;  2Pet.2:6; Rev.11:8)

14 I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one like a son of man with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested."
    The final witness will separate the wheat from the weeds. The harvest of wheat will conclude, by means of how each Chosen hearer, responds to these final messages.

       WATCHTOWER
          Wild Beast
            Gov.Bdy

           HARLOT

May as many as possible, demonstrate at the Summer Conventions, with this message.
(Ps.110:1,2,3)

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The Final Witness

"Shout it aloud, do not hold back. Raise your voice like a trumpet. Declare to my people their rebellion and to the descendants of Jacob their sins." (Isa.58:1)

"And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them." (Rev.8:2,6)

"Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the people of Israel; so hear the word I speak and you must give them warning from me." (Eze.3:17)

"If the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle?" (1Cor.14:8)

"I appointed watchmen over you and said, 'Listen to the sound of the trumpet!' But you said, 'We will not listen.'" (Jer.6:17)

"You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or fail to listen, for they are rebellious. And whether they listen or fail to listen
--for they are a rebellious people--they will know that a prophet has been among them." (Eze.2:7,5)

(Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3,10)

"'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person's life from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.'" (Eze.33:6)
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“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me," (Ex.20:4,5)

"All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?” (Rev.13:8,4)

"So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty." (Zech.4:6)
(Dan.8:25; 2:34,35; Eph.2:10; Rev.17:14)

"And to whom did God swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed?" (Heb.3:18)

"Shout it aloud, do not hold back. Raise your voice like a trumpet. Declare to my people their rebellion and to the descendants of Jacob their sins." (Isa.58:1)

"And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them." (Rev.8:2,6)

"Blow the trumpet in Zion;
    sound the alarm on my holy hill.
Let all who live in the land tremble,
    for the day of the Lord is coming.
It is close at hand" (Joel 2:1)



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PART III --Man of Lawlessness

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Foolish Virgins

Hello again dear Pearl,
I hope you are finding the strength to endue & are not suffering too much. I keep you in my prayers.
I have a question with regards to the "foolish virgins" they are of the anointed who fall short of becoming part of the bride of Christ. So does the Watchtower put the foolish virgins in the second death, which condemns the Foolish Virgins to Second Death?
In Matthew 25 with regards to the parable it doesn't seem to indicate that they receive eternal destruction but it does say at Matthew 25:11,12, "Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!' 12 “But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ "
So are the foolish virgins being rejected just as part of the Bride of Christ, when Christ says, "I do not know you" or is he rejecting them totally? Does this sit harmoniously with 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 where the foolish ones who build wood, hay and stubble on their foundation in Christ are “saved so as by fire.” It seems they are not destroyed.

love,
Darren
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Your question also relates to 1Cor.5:5.
When we are overcome by Satan, due to unfaithfulness in all that Christ commands,
we are disciplined by our heavenly Father. (That discipline is depicted in the four horsemen of Rev.6, and again in the symbolic dramas that follow in Revelation.) Yet not all repent when God attempts to train them (Rev.9:20,21). Only the one third (who are killed in association with their repentance -Rev.11:7; 6:9,11), do repent (Rev.9:18; Zech.13:9).
I had wondered myself, the final condition of the unrepentant, since their lot is also described as an everlasting abhorrence, being "beaten severely with many strokes", or an eternal enduring of shame (Dan.12:2; Isa.66:24; Luke 12:47). This alone does not conclusively point to either a living or dead shame.
We know that the building materials made of Gold, etc. (lasting materials - 1Cor.3:11,12,13,14,15), are the same as the "lasting fruit" / teachings, that the faithful witnesses of Christ and God, declare (John 15:16).
Fire and water can only save, if they cleanse the heart (Ps.66:10,11,12; Job 23:10;  1Pet.1:7; Zech.13:9; Rev.3:18) (Eph.5:26; John 15:3).
Otherwise, there is fire that can destroy, and waters that can sweep away (Matt.25:41; Rev.12:15; Ps.18:4; 69:2; 124:5).
Those not producing fruit from a refined heart (Luke 6:45,44), are lopped off the vine of Christ (and so, do not partake of the marriage feast),
and are "thrown into the fire" (John 15:2,6; Matt.7:19). This fire is termed, "the second DEATH" (Rev.20:14).

What we are sure of, is that those "virgins" who look to the Beast's "commerce" for spiritual provisions and light (Matt.25:9,10; Rev.13:17; 6:6; Eze.7:12,13; 14:10), are barred from the provisions of the marriage feast (Luke 12:37; Rev.3:20), within which Christ blesses the faithful virgins with "more" (Matt.13:12; 25:10 B). That blessing is a full image of Christ (John 14:21;  2Cor.4:6; Rev.1:16; Rev.22:16; 2:28;  2Pet.1:19) as he reflects "the true words of God" (John 16:15; Rev.19:9). --- Our earth's sun, is a star. The earth's "morning star", is, the rising sun (Luke 1:78; Acts 3:20; Mal.4:2; Rev.22:16; 2:28; Hosea 6:3) (Rev.1:16;  2Cor.4:6;  2Pet.1:19).
This is given to the virgins who enter the marriage feast with Christ. It is a full knowledge of Christ, and all the "light" his "face" possesses. This is why he is compared to a bridegroom. When the time for the marriage arrives, he gives himself completely, to his bride (John 14:21;  1Cor.6:17; Eph.5:28,29,30; John 17:21; Col.2:2,3,6,7) by means of the spirit of truth (John 16:13,14,15; 14:3,4,16,17,18,20,23,26).

Yet, those who have turned aside to "fornicate" with
"uncircumcised" "Gentiles"
            [Isa.1:21; Jer.2:20,21; Eze.23:29,30; Ex.34:15; Rev.2:20;
             Hosea 5:4,6; 7:11; Isa.36:6; 31:1 -Harlots rely on Egypt)
            (Sodom and "Egypt" --used to persecute the faithful in the
             time of the end -Rev.11:8)]
...or the Harlots above them (1Cor.6:15; Rev.17:2,3), will never see the full light of Christ. He does not know them.
I think it is appropriate now to remember, that without the light of Christ, there is no life. (John 1:4; 8:12; 6:63;  1John 5:11)
Adam and Even lost God's spirit, and life along with it. True, they endured for a time (Gen.5:5; 2:17;  2Pet.3:8), but eventually expired.
When a chosen virgin rejects the authority of Christ over her 

(Eph.5:23; Col.2:8,19;  2Cor.11:2,3,4,20;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13,14,15,16),
"she" has sinned unforgivably (see Heb.10:26,27,29,30,31,39; 6:4,5,6;  2Thess.1:8,9).

The unrepentant unfaithful will suffer "destruction" and "everlasting fire" and "the second death".
I guess it depends upon how you define those terms. According to my own Bible understanding, this is non-existence (Ps.37:10,20,35,36,38).
There are those who accept the discipline (Mal.3:1,2,3), are refined and forgiven, and made righteous (Heb.12:6,11; Eze.33:11).
There are those who do not repent (2Thess.2:10,11,12; Rev.22:14,15; Matt.8:12; Rev.21:8).
These are not given the provisions for life. They are consigned to the dominion and agents of Satan's abyss of spiritual darkness and death (Eze.32:18-32 <click on) (Rev.9:1,2,3,10,11) ("Sea" is "abyss" Rev.13:1,7; 11:7) (Isa.57:20)
(pearl-leviathan.blogspot.com).
Only the repentant will be saved out of that captivity (Rev.2:10; 13:10,7; Ps.40:2; 49:15; 69:2,14; 103:3,4; 107:20).

The "Watchtower" does not put the foolish virgins anywhere, because their most recent doctrine about them states that they are not a reality, and that this parable is not a prophecy.
They assert that the foolish virgins will never actually exist, but that this is merely a story with a moral, because "Christ has full confidence in his slaves, and knows that they will all be faithful."
I believe this lying statement to be a part of the fulfillment of their foretold declaration of a false "peace and security" with God (1Thess.5:3; Rev.18:7).

If Christ does not open the door to us, and says he does not know us....
See...
(Rev.3:7,8; Luke 24:45; Matt.10:33; Luke 12:9; Mark 8:38;  2Tim.2:12;  1John 2:23;  2John 1:9; Matt.25:10) (1Pet.1:23; Rom.8:6,13).
There are requirements to gain the approval of the Master, and to gain his truth which leads to life (John 17:3; 6:63), and so, to gain that life.

The question is, what becomes of living spirit creatures that lose God's spirit?
This would include Satan, the demons, and unfaithful Chosen ones.
Will they be destroyed and not exist anymore? This is what some of these scriptures convey.

Will they be conscious in the pits of dense darkness, never to rise again? This is also depicted, but this is symbolic.
I do not feel confident at this point, to assert decisively how God will dismiss and dispose of those hopelessly wicked,
but my own inclination is to believe that if they do not repent while there is yet time to do so,
they will be gone.
As Adam and Even lingered for a time, and suffered the indignation and despair that accompanied their moral and spiritual failure...so too will the unfaithful (Luke 13:28). This is because it is not God who directly kills. The Destroyer does (John 10:10; Isa.33:1; Rev.9:11). God removes His Spirit of life and truth, and in time, they expire without it's support (Job 34:14,15; Deut.31:17; Ec.12:7; 7:12) (John 5:21; 6:63) (Isa.5:13; 3:1; 65:13; Amos 8:11; Gen.3:22,23,24).
("Two Trees")

I'm sorry if my response is not as definitive as you wish.
I have always left this judgment in God's hands, and never asked for more detail.
I trust that God is Justice, and if my fallen brothers prove to be like the Prodigal Son, I will not resent my Father's rejoicing over their repentance and salvation, just as I am so grateful for His forgiveness toward me (2Pet.3:17; Rev.8:10,11) (Matt.18:35; Luke 15:32).
Yet the Prodigal Son humbled himself, and repented. God's forgiving love does not rejoice in wickedness (1Cor.13:6).
Only those who repent, are accepted back into His household.

Perhaps God does not threaten with a full and plain disclosure of looming death,
because He desires the basis of forgiveness to be more about love, than of selfish fear.
This is as far as I have ever inquired of my Father, and I do not feel right about expecting more.
After all, God has a right to be the judge of each individual, and what they will reap.
Why should we, like Jonah, set ourselves up for a particular expectation? (Jonah 3:1,2,4,5,9,10; 4:1,11)
Note: Nineveh repented.

If it turns out differently from what I expected, what of it?
Yet the wicked will reap what they have sown (Gal.6:7,8). But who am I to judge an individual's heart as wicked?
While we are sure that the Harlots and their mother will be "completely burned with fire" (Rev.18:8);
there may be an individual within that identity, that might repent.
If so, such a one should be welcomed with love (2Cor.2:7,8).

Our concern is rightly with our own faithfulness.
I hope the cited scriptures have met your need.
Love,
Pearl
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Judas

A QUESTION:

Hello Pearl
My question is about Judas!
He was a chosen disciple
One of the Twelve disciple.
Pearl were did Judas go after he took his own life?
Could you give me scripture ref this
As it was in a group talk, and there was different opinions!
I would rather have scripture backup ref the subject 
Hope you can help
God bless,
Helen

MY REPLY:

Hello "Helen",
First of all, I must comment on the words you use, because if they are not understood correctly, the answer to your questions will not be understood correctly.
First,
yes... Judas was "chosen", along with the other eleven. 
       "Then Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? 
        Yet one of you is a devil! (He meant Judas, the son of 
        Simon Iscariot, who, though one of the Twelve, 
        was later to betray him.)" (John 6:70,71)
But please do not assume, the reason why Judas was chosen.
       "I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. 
        But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: 'He who 
        shared my bread has turned against me.'" (John13:18) (Psalm 41:9)

       "'But there are some of you who do not believe.' For Jesus knew 
        from the beginning who they were who did not believe, 
        and who it was that would betray Him." (John6:64)

John6:64; 2:25; 13:11 all make clear, that Jesus knew from the time he chose Judas, what role Judas would play. Jesus was not choosing him to be a foundation stone in the Holy City (Rev.21:14).
Since Psalm 41:9 did prophesy about Judas, God also knew, far in advance, the place of Judas, before he was even born.
It was not until Judas was gone from their company, that Jesus spoke of choosing the others to "bear lasting fruit" ...to provide spiritual food to feed his sheep. (John15:16) (Rev.22:1,2; Matt.7:20)
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Next you say that Judas was chosen to be a disciple.
This is not accurate. 
A "disciple" is someone who disciplines themselves. We each have free will, and must choose to obey and conform to that which we choose to be guided and trained by (John15:8; 13:35; 8:31). No one else can fully make us a "disciple" (disciplined one). 
Clearly, Judas did not choose to be Christ's disciple. 
  Jesus did not teach people to steal.
       "But Judas Iscariot, one of His disciples, who was intending to betray Him, 
        said, “Why was this perfume not sold for three hundred denarii and given 
        to poor people?” Now he said this, not because he was concerned about 
        the poor, but because he was a thief, and as he had the money box, 
        he used to steal what was put into it." (John12:4,5,6)
Judas was not a genuine disciple of Jesus Christ. He had not been "washed" clean by Christ's teachings (John15:3; Eph.5:25,26,27; 1Cor.6:11) (John13:10,11)

Then you say that Judas was "One of the Twelve disciples".
If by saying this, you mean that Judas was chosen to be one of the twelve apostles.
This also, is not correct, although the other apostles did assume this (Acts1:16,17).
As can be seen from the previous scriptures; Judas was chosen as the betrayer, and was known by both Christ and God as the one who would betray Jesus, previous to fulfilling that role.

The scriptures clear up the position Judas occupied in association with Christ. 
They clarify the reason Christ chose him, and the role of betrayer which Judas was chosen to fulfill. 
This certainly is not the same role which the other twelve were chosen for (Rev.21:14).
As was the case with Matthias; Judas was *"reckoned in" with the group of twelve, which Jesus designated as apostles (Acts1:26).
Later, Christ would again make a twelfth choice for an individual apostle by God's direction (Luke6:12,13; Acts1:20; Ps.109:8). 
That choice was Paul (Acts9:15; Gal.1:1; Eph.4:11).
Matthias was chosen by men... men unqualified to appoint an apostle of Christ for God 
(John15:16; Eph.1:4; Col.3:12; 1Cor.12:18,28; Eph.4:11,12).
*(For more on this, see: twelfth-apostle? )
 *(Regarding the Greek of Acts 1:26 translated as "added". More precisely, it means, "reckoned in"/"thrown in with" by men.)

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Next you ask,
"Where did Judas go after he took his own life?"
Jesus gave us two indications for the answer to this question...
The first:
"The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born." (Mark14:21)

When we are born, we come from a place of non-existence.
Yet Judas went to a place far worse than that. How so?
Judas was already born, lived, and became condemned. He "occupies" the "second death"...
which is eternal condemnation. Such ones have already made a negative record with God, unlike the unborn.

How do we know that Judas went to the "Lake of Fire"/"Second Death" (Rev.20:14)?
The second thing Jesus said:
"While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled." (John17:12)

Judas was not written in the Lamb's scroll of life, and so, he went to the "second death"/"Lake of Fire"/destruction (Rev.20:15), because Jesus said he was a "son of destruction" (John17:12), just as the "man of lawlessness" is (2Thess.2:3). 
That "man of lawlessness" is the same identity (has the same "number") as the Wild Beast from the sea** 
(Rev.13:1; Isa.57:20; Rev.13:18) ("6 6 6"). 
That Beast is also said to be thrown into the Lake of fire/Second Death (Rev.20:10).

(For a scriptural comparison of the "Beast" to the "M.O.L.", see: http://pearl-666.blogspot.com)
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So, to give a direct answer to where Judas went after his betrayal of Christ,
John17:12 makes clear that the destiny of Judas, was "destruction"...
because he became a son of the Destroyer, and was that ones' willing puppet (John13:27; Luke22:2,3,4) 
(John10:10; Isa.33:1; Rev.9:11).

Please understand that my calling and purpose, is not to equip others to argue during a battle of opinions, with those who are overconfident. 
My calling is to individually feed the meek... those who are aware of their spiritual hunger, and who realize that the truth means their salvation.
I do appreciate those who work to publish the scriptural truth they hear from the spirit and bride, by commenting on the various forums (Rev.22:17; 1:3), so that the truth is offered publicly to many. 
But what I have been given, is not to be used in competition for personal advantage.
May God bless the path of those who seek Him in sincerity,
Pearl
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"Mankind" / "Son of Man" / "Man' of Lawlessness"

A QUESTION:
"I have been looking at "the man of Lawlessness" (2Thess.2:3-10), although I understand the meaning of this (the beast made up of non-anointed gentiles/elders), I was wondering though; why it is referred to as a man?"

MY REPLY:
        (PLEASE read all the scriptures)
          [When you see an asterisk (*), it refers to a footnote at the bottom of the post.
                  Footnotes will be added when the post is completed.]

If you ask this because you wonder if this "man" is a single person, then it helps to read 2Thess.2:6,7,8...
"And now you perceive the restraint which will be revealed in it's time. The underhanded power of this lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now restrains will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming".
What we learn from verse 7, is that this identity was already at work in the first century. We learn in verse 8, that this identity will be present when Christ overthrows it at the time of his coming.   The "man of lawlessness" is an element that spans much longer than a single human lifetime. It therefore consists of many individuals, all of whom bear its' traits, and who work collectively to develop the demonic purposes that the Destroyer has assigned to this Satanic "son"** (2Thess2:3) 
[(** Greek of 2Thess.2:3 literally reads, "son (not "man doomed to") of apOleias" = "son of destruction" = form of "Apollyon") (Rev.9:11)]
(John 17:12 (also "son of Destruction"...not "man doomed to"); John 13:27; 6:70; Luke 22:3).

This idea of a collective is not unusual within scripture. Think of the singular body of Christ, consisting of many individuals (1Cor.12:27). 
The body of the Antichrist (singular), also consists of many individuals over time (1John 2:18). So too, the members of the "man of lawlessness".
All those belonging to Christ come together to form one body (1Cor.10:17; 12:14,25; Rom.15:14; Eph.4:11,12). 
Just as The Temple of God is also shown to be a collective; (1Pet.2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22)... 
so too, is the "synagogue of Satan" (Rev.2:9; 3:9).

But there is much more which the scriptures contain pertaining to the reason why this entity is designated as a "man". It is worth uncovering whatever we are presently able. Since you have studied about this "man" as being the same identity as the Wild Beast of Rev.13:1; You may wonder why is it symbolically referred to as being a beast, and at the same time, a "man" of lawlessness.

MANKIND

When Revelation speaks of mankind (Greek: "anthropos"), God's Word is referring to what God considers mankind to be. If we glean from God's words, what God's definition of "mankind" is; that deeper understanding will open our interpretation of this term "anthropos", when it is used within the prophetic symbolism of Revelation...
(Rev.5:9; 8:11; 9:4,6,10; 13:13,18; 14:4; 16:2,8,9,18,21; 18:13; 19:18; 21:3) 
(As you can see from the foregoing verses, "anthropos" is translated inconsistently in most Bible versions)
(I have left out verses from the foregoing list which commonly include a translation of "mankind" or "men", even though in actuality, the original Greek of those verses did not contain "anthropos".)

First, we should accept that God considers "mankind" to authentically be a creation made in His image. Therefore, according to God's definition, authentic "mankind" is free of sin (1Pet.1:16) (Col.3:5,7,8,9,10; Matt.5:48; Rev.4:8)

"Then God said, 'Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.' So God created mankind in his own image,
    in the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day." (Gen.1:26,27,31) 
"This is the written account of Adam’s family line.
When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God. He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them “Mankind” when they were created." (Gen.5:1,2)

What is the essence of mankind, according to God's definition?
How did God create our original parent?
The perfect, immortal*(2), human organism... "mankind"...
       what does it consist of ?

FLESH AND SPIRIT

"Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being." (Gen.2:7)

What was this "breath of life" that made Adam into an eternal*(1) being?
Jesus leads us into understanding the answer, at John 20:21,22...
"Then said Jesus to them again, Peace unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. 
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, 
Receive ye the Holy Spirit."

The original Greek words which are translated as "Holy Spirit" (John 20:22), are "hagion pneuma"
The word meaning "spirit", is "pneuma", which means breath. Holy Spirit then, means the breath of God which contains the force of life (John 6:63;  2Cor.3:6; Rom.8:2;  1Cor.15:45; Gal.5:25). When instilled, it gave eternal life to the lifeless corpse which God had formed out of the dust of the ground 
(Gen.2:7; Job 10:9; Gen.3:23;  2Sam.14:14; Gal.4:4,5; John 1:14). 
  Adam had become the first of "mankind"...made in the perfect and holy image of God.
(Ps.104:29; 146:4; Ec.12:7; Job 34:12,14,15; James 2:26; Luke 23:46)
[IN RESPONSE TO COMMENT: As we know, life and health cannot be accomplished in a corpse by air alone. If it could, we could resurrect the dead with an air pump. (Ec.12:7; Job 34:14,15)]
Review:
Mankind's Original Essence: (spirit of God combined with flesh = incorruptible soul / "mankind" as defined by God - Gen.5:1,2) 
"Mankind" would have lived eternally, if God's spirit remained within.*(1)

Did God's spirit remain within Adam and Eve?
As we know, Adam and Eve chose to sin, and that resulted in consequences (Gal.6:7; Ps.5:4,5,6; 34:16; Prov.15:29)
They chose to eat of the fruit / "knowledge', of the great Deceiver 
(Gen.2:17; 3:6,13; James 1:15; Hosea 10:13; 6:7;  2Cor.11:3; James 3:15;  1Tim.4:1; Rev.20:7,8; 16:14), 
rather than from the Tree of Life.
("Two Trees") (John 12:48; Eph.5:9; Prov.3:13,18)

The spirit of God, along with eternal life and it's sustaining "Tree", were removed from Adam and Eve's grasp (Gen.3:23,24,17,19; Ps.104:29; Job 34:14,15). Death resulted to all who were generated from Adam and Eve (Ps.51:5; Job 14:4; 15:14; Rom.3:23). 
Those originally created as "mankind", had replaced the guidance and spirit of God, with the guidance and spirit of the Destroyer (Eph.2:1,2,3; Heb.2:14 c;  1John 3:8 a,b). 
"Mankind" was now corrupted, defiled, cursed... 
mere mortals subject to death 
       (Ps.14:3; 90:3; Gen.3:17; 5:29; Rom.8:13; Jer.13:25)... 
and no longer possessing the spirit or image of God. As a result of their chosen adulteration, they were no longer sons of God, but rather, dying sons of Satan 
(Rom.1:25; John 8:44; Rom.5:12; Deut.32:5; Isa.24:5; Acts 2:40)
  As soon as sin was accomplished (Gen.2:17; 3:6; James 1:14,15); Satan's corrupt and dying lineage of seed had been initiated and generated (Rom.8:20; Job 14:1). From then on, Satan's seed would be in conflict and at enmity 
with those who gain and harbor the Spirit of God (Gen.3:15; Rev.12:17; Rom.16:20;  1Cor.15:45) 

(1John 3:12; Heb.11:4; Prov.29:10; John 8:40; 15:20; 3:20) 

(2Cor.10:3,4,5;  2Tim.4:7; 2:3) (Rev.20:7,8; 16:14,13,16; 17:14; Eph.5:11; 6:12; Rev.19:11,14,8; 12:7; Prov.28:4).

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PART TWO  

Two spirits / two fathers / two tables / two seed

Adam and Eve deviated from God's original design of mankind... that of being made in God's image, because they no longer resembled God's sinless spirit. God's life-giving spirit no longer resided within them, nor could they regain it through the tree of life (Eph.2:1; James 1:15; Gen.3:13,19,24; Ps.104:29). Their existence became adulterated and temporary, based upon the corrupt and dying spirit of their master, Satan, who now owned them. 
Through them, humanity became mere earthly, mortal flesh... not belonging to Holy Spirit... being lead by their unclean earthly desires of lust, greed, lying, and injurious domination. 
Rather than resembling the original sinless condition of their Father's creation of "mankind" (Luke 3:38); their spirit resembles those of lower, untamed creatures (Jude 1:10,19;  1Cor.2:14;  2Pet.2:12; Rev.17:8; 13:11; 22:15; Jer.12:9; 15:3; Rev.19:17,18,21; 18:2; Eze.39:17) (Rev.9:3,7,10; Joel 2:4,1,2,3; Isa.33:4; Job 39:19,20; Joel 1:4,6,7; Rev.9:8; Eze.2:6; Rev.9:10). 
Humanity came under the control of lying wicked spirits, who general humanity has come to resemble...
 (John 8:44; James 3:15;  2Cor.11:14,15; John 13:27; Matt.26:48,49; Eph.2:2,3;  1John 5:19; Ps.74:20), 
...due to their rebellious hearts 
(Jer.2:5; Eph.4:17,18,19; Luke 8:11,12; James 4:4;  1John 2:15,16,17; 4:5; John 15:19; Rom.1:21,20; 8:5,6,13; Gal.5:17,19,20,21; Matt.26:41). 
Having the spirit of Satan, these come to resemble the father of sin (Isa.27:1; 57:20; Rev.12:9; Matt.23:33; 25:41) (1Pet.5:8; Prov.28:15; Eze.22:25; Ps.58:6; 3:7; 57:4; 17:12,13; 10:2,8,9; Rev.9:8; Joel 1:6) 
(Isa.27:1; 57:20; Rev.13:1,4; Eze.29:4,5; 38:4,2; Rev.20:8)
...as his sons and slaves. 

(Rev.9:11;  2Thess.2:3;  1John 3:12;  2Pet.2:2; John 8:44; Matt.23:33) 

Such comparisons to other creatures can also be favorably made, in order to symbolize positive traits 
(Rev.14:1; 4:7,8; Eze.34:31; Ps.74:19;  Canticles 6:9; Rev.12:14; Job 39:27,29). 

When speaking of the confrontation the wicked have with God's people,
the Bible symbolically describes them according to their inner spirit, which God no longer views as measuring up to His concept of "mankind", but rather as wicked and rebellious scorpions, locusts, wild beasts, serpents, fish, etc.

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Jesus told us that the hearts of both the wicked and the good prophets, would be producing "fruits" (Matt.24:5,24,25; 7:15,16,17,18,19,20; Luke 6:43,45). Luke defines that fruit, as the sayings/teachings, which proceed from the spirit within each heart... either good (Phil.1:9,11; Eze.36:26,27; Rom.5:5; Acts 2:18) or bad (Mark 7:23,21; Matt.15:19; 12:34; Rev.13:11; Deut.32:33; Jer.51:7;  2Cor.11:13,14,15). 

The difference between these two sorts of prophets, would be discernible by the "fruit" (sayings/teachings) that each produced. The fruit of lips (Heb.13:15; Hosea 14:2; Mal.3:3,4;  1Pet.2:5) would either be sourced in the spirit of God (Matt.10:20;  1Cor.3:16; Rom.8:9) or the spirit/breath, of demons/Satan (Rev.16:13,14; John 8:44;  1John 3:8;  2Tim.3:5,7,8,9;  1Tim.4:1,7; Titus 1:11;  2Pet.2:3). 

That demonic spirit/breath, can instill itself into the workings of men (Rev.13:15; 19:20; 16:13,16; 20:7,8) (Luke 22:3,4; Rev.12:9;  1John 5:19; 4:1;  2Pet.2:1,2,3; Dan.8:12). 
The fruit of each side would be offered on symbolic tables (1Cor.10:21; Rev.2:20), for others to "ingest" into their own heart (Prov.23:19; 4:23; Matt.15:9). Spiritual fruit also contains seed within it (Gen.1:11). The seed remains after the fruit is eaten. That seed will be cultivated in the heart...
good (James 1:21,25;  1Cor.3:9,6; John 15:1,2) 
or bad (James 1:15), 
or sprouts can be weeded out (Eph.4:22;  1Pet.2:1), depending upon the desires of each heart. 

(Luke 8:11,12,13,14,15; 10:16; Matt.13:8,9;  1Thess.4:8; 2:13; John 12:48). 
(http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/wheat-and-weed-seeds-grow-up-and-mature.html)
  Whichever fruit/seed is cultivated within, will result in either a slave of God's Laws ("wheat"), or a slave of the devil's laws ("weeds") (Matt.13:37,38,39,40; Rom.8:2; 6:22,18). 
Such slaves receive a spiritual mark, identifying the master that owns their heart (Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Ex.13:9; Rev.7:3; 14:1; 19:5) (Rev.13:16,7,8; Isa.44:20; Rev.14:9,10; 19:20). The fruit eaten contains it's own seed, which takes root...either perpetuating corruption and resulting in destruction (Gen.3:6; Rom.5:12; 2:8; James 1:14;  2Thess.1:8; 2:12), or incorruption and eternal life (Rom.8:2,13; 6:17; James 1:21;  1Pet.1:22,23; John 6:63).

As slaves, they will either obey the truth, or the lie 

(Rom.6:16;  2Pet.2:19; John 8:34;  2Thess.2:9,10,11,12; Isa.44:20; Rev.13:16) 
(1Pet.1:14; Acts 17:30; Rom.6:13; 12:1). 
They learn to imitate either the father of truth (1Cor.6:11; 2:12; Col.3:10; Rom.8:15,29; Eph.2:10; 4:24) and become restored into the image of God (Gen.1:27; Col.3:10; Rom.8:29; 13:14) --("clothed with Christ" -Rev.12:1; Luke 1:78,79);
or retain the spirit and image of the father of lies (Isa.50:3;  2John 1:7;  1John 2:26;  2Tim.3:13; Eph.5:6; 2:2; 4:18; Col.2:4,8; John 8:44; Gal.4:3;  2Cor.4:4; 11:14,15). 
As such imitators (Eph.5:1; Matt.5:48; Phil.2:15), they become seed / offspring, either of God and Christ (Rev.14:4; James 1:18; Heb.12:22,23; Rom.8:14), or of the Devil. 
Just as God foretold us, these two Seeds have always be at enmity 
[(LINK) ("Wheat or Weeds?") ("What is Armageddon?")]
as soon as both sorts came into existence (Gen.3:15). 

That enmity continues until the end [Dan.9:26; 11:22; Matt.24:6; Luke 21:22;  2Chron.16:9 B; (Rev.13:7,8,10; Col.2:8;  1Tim.4:1);  1Cor.11:19; Rev.12:17,7; 16:13,14,15,16; 17:14; 19:11,14,8;  2Cor.10:4,5; 6:7;  2Tim.2:3,4; Rev.11:18; Eze.7:14; Joel 3:14,2,9,12,13; Jer.25:30,29,31; Rev.19:15; 14:18,19; Joel 2:1,2; Rev.8:6; Isa.58:1]
because God's nation has been enslaved to an Idol... the "Image" of the Wild Beast Organization! 
  Now that Satan has been released from the Abyss, that composite entity is empowered (Rev.13:1,4; 9:3,10) to capture, restrain, trample, and enslave God's Chosen, until they are rescued by Christ/Michael (Heb.1:6; Acts 3:21; Luke 1:78;  2Pet.1:19; Dan.12:1; Rev.12:7,10,11; 17:14; Jer.30:7; Matt.24:21; Joel 2:2; Rev.9:7,9,10; Eze.2:6; Rev.13:4,7,8; Dan.7:23; 2:40; 8:12,11; Rev.11:2; Isa.52:1; Rev.21:27; Col.1:13,14).
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This Year's Memorial

ADDITIONS
Hello Everyone,
I thought I would write a bit about this past Memorial.
The love among the members of the Body of Christ, is most keenly felt as we obey the scriptural directives, to gather.
(1Cor. 11:33; Matt.18:20; Luke 22:17).
There were scriptures read, about the promises of God. This gave us hope, as well as insight into how the fulfillment of them, is progressing.
Here are some of my personal notes, which were used for my own discussion of the emblems...

BREAD

Three meanings relevant for those chosen, come to mind.

1. Christ sacrificed his human life in the flesh.Through his body, he suffered, so that we could be pardoned.
He told us to imitate his sacrifice... to share in the purpose of a sacrificial life...
Rom.12:1
"Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God--this is your true and proper worship."
1Pet. 4:2
"As a result, they do not live the rest of their earthly lives for evil human desires, but rather for the will of God."
2Cor. 5:15
"He died for everyone so that those who receive his new life will no longer live for themselves. Instead, they will live for Christ, who died and was raised for them."
Rom.6:5
"For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his."
"When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been." (Rev.6:9,11)
So the first thing I see in the emblem of bread, is that
just as Jesus sacrificed his body of flesh for the sake of the gospel,
so that others my gain life by means of the truth he offered,
so we too must live, and die, for the truth.

2. In using bread as a symbol for his body, he points to his human life, spent in providing truth. He said he was the bread from heaven, and his body was true food. He said that his whole reason for being born as a man of flesh, was to testify to the truth (John 18:37).
John 6:35
"Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty."
This is the same bread for which Jesus taught us to pray, "Give us this day our daily bread" (Matt.6:11)
He was not teaching an emphasis on physical bread, but on spiritual...
Matt.4:4
"Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
John 6:51...
"I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
So the second thing I see, is that to take in the emblem of bread, we display our acknowledgment that we rely on Christ for our spiritual sustenance and the life that results from it.

3. The third significant meaning I see symbolized in the bread,
is another meaning the Bible gives to Christ's body.
1Cor. 12:12-14...
"Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free —and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many."

1Cor. 12:27,18,28
"Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.
"But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be."
"And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues."
This body, composed of chosen and appointed parts, is also referred to at
Eph.4:11,12
"And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ".
This is the body of Chosen ones, that Paul refers to at 1Cor. 11:29,28,31
"For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.
"Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup.
"But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment."

So, there we are told that we need to discern the Body of Christ, under Christ as it's head.
We need to discern who we are in relation to that body of appointed saints...
Have we been chosen to be a part of the body, as an apostle, a prophet, a teacher?
If we have positively discerned this about ourselves (1Cor. 11:31), then we rightly partake of that body of Chosen ones belonging to Christ.
Our self-perception is accurate, if spirit has clearly imparted knowledge of such an appointment, to us
(Rom.8:16;  2Cor. 1:21,22; 5:5; Eph.1:14; Gal.3:29; Dan.7:18).
So when we partake of the bread, we also are discerning our place within Christ, and how we provide and accept manifestations of the spirit, from each other (1Cor. 12:7; Rom.15:14).
As 1Cor. 10:16,17 reads;
"Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf."

So the third thing I see in the emblem of Bread, is that we see our own assigned place in the body of Christ,
knowing that our assignment within it, is for the building up and feeding of the entire body, upon which we individually depend;
just as the other parts, also supply what we need, and depend upon us.
Just as Jesus gave up his life for us, so we are to serve our brothers in Christ (John 15:13; 13:34;  1John 3:16)
(Rom.12:10; 13:8;  1Pet. 1:22;  1John 3:14) through our individual gift of spirit's manifestation, within us (Rom.12:4,5,6,7,8;  1Cor. 12:25).

Luke 22:15,16,19
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WINE

Wine is a product of the vine.
Just as wine comes from a grapevine,
the meaning of the wine, comes from the meaning of the grapevine.
John 15:1-5,8
“I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
8"This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples."

So the first meaning of the wine, is that we must take in the product of the true vine, without which, we can do nothing.
If we remain in him, we are holy, and produce much fruit, which glorifies our Father.
Rom.11:16-18, compares this union with the true vine, as an olive tree...
"If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you."
  So the true and holy root, provides us the nourishing sap of Holy Spirit and Truth (John 4:23-24), and thereby, supports us to bear fruit.
As sap feeds the branches, Christ's blood feeds the parts of his body, providing life to it's members. We take in that life...the Holy Spirit, which he gives freely to those who remember their dependence on it, and keep asking for it.
If we remain in union with the holy root-stock, we as it's branches, will also be holy.
As we partake of the emblem of wine, we take in what the true vine has provided...
holy spirit, life, truth, and a cleansed state of holiness ourselves (Rev.3:4; 19:8).
These things are ours, as long as we remain in subjection to our Head and Lord.

Luke 22:17,20
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Afterward, we also discussed meeting together regularly.
This is perceived as a desire of Christ, according to the will of God.
"that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one" (John 17:21,22)
If we are to "be one", and there be no division among the members of Christ's Body (1Cor. 12:25; 1:10)
this requires a gathering together, just as the scriptures direct (Heb.10:24,25). 
This gathering was prophesied, initiated by a "trumpet blast" (Matt.24:31), which is the voice of a herald among the priesthood
(Isa.58:1; Eze.3:17; 33:3) (Rev.10:7; 8:2,6; Josh.6:4,13).
Within the symbolism of Revelation, Christ directs his faithful slaves (Rev.1:1,3; 22:7).

I trust that all awakened members of Christ, were blessed by their gathering for this sacred occasion.
I anticipate with joy, the fulfillment of prophecy, by the collecting together of the faithful, in Christ.
Love,
Pearl
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