Friday, November 30, 2012

"Generation" / "Seed" / "signify" by means of signs

SOME COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO SOME QUESTIONS:


The anointed "seed" is all one "generation" (Matt.24:34). They are all spirit generated, no matter what calendar year they were born in.
The same is true of Satan's "seed" (Phil.2:15). Both seed have been present since Cain and Abel (1John3:12,10; John8:44; 2Thess.2:3; Rev.9:11).
These "seed" span throughout time. Yet each one lives only during their own lifetime.
All...no matter when they live, have a limited lifetime to prove faithful.

Most of the events which are described symbolically in Revelation,
come upon all members of that righteous "generation".
All must endure the seven times of Satan's "Gentile" rule, through which all invited ones
must be tested and prove faithful to death, in order to receive their white robe/seal.

Yet that scroll of Revelation includes, not only the commonality of experience that
all New Covenant anointed suffer at Satan's hand (Luke22:31; Gen3:15; Eph.6:12),
it also includes the culmination and decisive end of the "enmity", between
agents of Satan and agents of God (Gen.3:15; Rev.12:17,10; 20:10,14, 11:18; Rev.16:16).

Most of the events in Revelation are not exclusive to any chronological age of Chosen ones....
Yet some of the events are unique to the "remaining ones". This is why those anointed who experience the Great Tribulation,
are singled out and given special mention (Rev.7:14). That remnant experience the conclusion of the age,
also during which the "Gentiles" trample those in Covenant with God (Rev.11:1,2), ("the woman's seed"). This is also the period when that Gentile power of Satan, falls for the last time (Dan.2:35; 7:18).

Rev.1:3 reads, "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near."

This means that THOSE WHO HEAR (meaning those who understand and are in the situation where they are able to identify and obey), are in the period in which the end "is near". The unfaithful, will not be able to "hear"/understand (John8:43; Dan.12:9,10; Mark4:12)

Not all ages of anointed are present when Satan is released from the abyss (Rev.20:7,8; 12:3,4,7,8,9,10,11,15,16,17; 16:13,14,15,16; 17:14). Not all aes of anointed fully understand and see around them, the full conclusion of our world, as described in Revelation. (Dan.12:9,10; Rev.1:3)
This is not speaking to the literal, physical 7 congregations existing in one lifetime. 
Remember the meaning of "7" (Rev.5:6), as well as what the "angels" of "the seven congregations" actually mean (Rev.1:12,13,16,20).

The phrases "must soon take place" and "the time is near" do not apply according to the experience of physical men (1Cor.2:14).
This is not something you can mark on a calendar, so to speak. 
This speaks to a spirit-educated frame of mind (1Cor.2:10; 1John2:20,27; John14:26), it's goals, an understanding of priorities, faith, and certainty (Col.1:3,4,5,6; Phil.3:13,14,15; 1Tim.6:19).
This is a language of spirit (please see 1Cor.2:13). (Verses6-16 are also helpful).

Those not viewing things according to the knowledge of spirit given exclusively to the faithful anointed (1John2:20,27), will not be able to discern these things (Luke8:10).
If others are overconfident enough to circumvent God's expressed feeding arrangement (John15:5; 21:17; Matt.24:45,46,47; 5:14,15,16; John4:14,24), they will mislead themselves.

The descriptive "chronology" is given us in Revelation, not so that we can calculate defined calendar years,
but so that the anointed are taught details of their situation, and what responsibilities and requirements still lie before thembefore they fully accomplish God's will for them (John4:34; 1John2:17; John15:14).
It is a message that wakens those walking by spirit (Rom.8:14) into a sharp understanding of the spirit realm, which they have already experienced a token of when anointed (2Cor.1:22).
That spirit realm is not translatable into the physical, except through symbolism. It is this chasm between physical realities and spiritual realities, which is what you seem to have difficulty grasping...
especially when it comes to "time" symbolism.

The "literal circumstance" you regard as unique to "first century disciples", represents spiritual realities which all anointed experience, who hope to become sealed (Rom.6:3; 8:17; 1Pet.5:9; Acts14:22). Remember that Revelation is written in symbols (Rev.1:1), to those who understand "spiritual words" (parables).
You will not see the reality of these circumstances today, unless you begin to view things spiritually....because it is in a spiritual sense that the present day fulfillment is taking place... not through the "literal circumstances" of the parable of Revelation. (Mark4:34; Rev.1:1; Matt.13:10,11,12,13)
When Rev.6:11 says,
"Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.".........can you see that in order to complete the full number of 144000, the last of them also need to suffer and be slaughtered?
Like the rest of Revelation, the "killing" is a symbol (Rev.6:9; 11:7; 12:11; 14:13; 20:4; John16:2; Isa.66:5; 2Chron.13:9; Luke6:22; Matt24:9; Rev.11:9,10)


When you say, "One more important fact is those brothers back then did not have to do research to figure out what the imagery meant, as we today have to do."...
it is clear that you do not understand the difference between human knowledge, 
and the superior education by holy spirit, 
with which no research is necessary (John8:26; 12:49,50; Matt.10:27,20).

Regarding having a Bible in one hand and a newspaper in the other....
do not forget that anything which takes place in the world, is totally under the control of, and sourced with, Satan (1John5:19).
If you see any correlation between worldly events and the Bible, it is for the purpose of deception....
a red herring distraction to mislead....
NOT a truthful fulfillment of prophecy (pearl-anillustration.blogspot.com).

Jehovah bless you in your search for truth and life,
Pearl


1 comment:

  1. Greetings Pearl,
    we are agreeing that the "generation" is not a literal one, but is in fact "a nation"
    see the answer to the last question here (the 10th question) of my post (my post is the 3rd of the thread)
    Are JWs Exclusively God\'s People?

    as also in these posts:
    ELIJAH's VOICE
    and :
    ELIJAH's VOICE
    I am glad to see the river of truth growing!
    For many years I saw only "drops of sweet wine" as it is written in Joel 3:18
    18 "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down sweet wine..."
    ...and now the river is growing !

    Be blessed ,
    rus v.

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