Saturday, April 30, 2016

"Who really can be saved?"

Questions I received:

Pearl,
 I have been in touch with a brother who told me about the demonstrations you and others did at the summer conventions and I am ready to do it as well, here in my home town.  There would be three of us.
I don't really know how to go about it so i would appreciate feedback from you about what needs to be done etc...  I will do anything to help people wake up and search out those who are the faithful anointed. 
 I also need to ask you some things. 
There are some on the net who have left the beast and claim to be anointed. Are those considered to have been killed, and are they the faithful anointed ones as well? 
 Will those who are truly anointed be directed to your blog? 
Those ex witnesses activists who have left the organization and speak against it -- they are not marked by the beast? -- or are they? 
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My Reply:

Hello again,
I am always happy to hear of those who are willing to demonstrate to those in captivity. We are warned that the great majority of God's people are in a blind and deaf condition. But we still give the witness, not only for the few who might wake up, but for the sake of God's name, who always warns his prophets, so that He provides a warning to His people... being a God of Justice.
For the full instructions you need, to share in that witness, here are two helpful links:
(the-final-witness)
(the-sound-of-trumpet). 
Here are two forum posts that may help:
(The-Final-Witness-forum)
(Kindle-the-message)
I will also send you a link to another anointed one... a "teacher" in the Body of Christ (1Cor.12:28) (LINK
For now, I want to get to your other questions. 
I will post them below, just to be sure I don't forget anything...

1. There are some on the net who have left the beast and claim to be anointed. Are those considered to have been killed, and are they the faithful anointed ones as well? 

First I will say, that on the internet, we really don't know if all a person says, is true. They may say that they are out of the WT and that they are also anointed, but we really don't know at first. Dan.11:34 reads;
"When they fall, they will receive a little help, and many who are not sincere will join them."
Of that situation, we are given warning not to misplace our trust in impostors (Jer.9:4; Micah 7:5-6; Luke12:51-53; 2Tim.3:13). Although those scriptures speak primarily of those inside the Beast as being treacherous; those verses include those we may meet outside in the "wilderness" of continued testing, because of what Daniel says at Dan.11:34 (quoted above)... which occurs after leaving. 
While we are in that wilderness, Satan is still testing us, trying to get some who have left the one WT snare, to be caught in another snare, afterward (Amos 5:19; Eze.14:21; Rev.6:8).

Secondly, many have left the WT, only mentally, without being "killed". There are anointed who are still attending meetings (Ps.26:4), or those who "faded" in order to avoid being shunned by family (Matt.10:37,32,33). Although such ones may truly be anointed... they are not faithful, nor will they be given the opening of the scroll (the end-time revelations of God's truths), 
because they have not been "killed" for their testimony, by the WT Beast (Rev.11:7; 6:9-11). That "death" is a requirement to receive our inheritance, just as it was a requirement for Christ (Rev.5:9; 2:7, 17; Rom.6:5; John12:24; Mark8:35; Rev.6:11).

Third. Now here is where the most difficult challenge arises, for those who have taken the first step toward salvation (being killed -Rom.6:5; John12:24; Rev.6:9,11) and are now outside the unfaithful City (Rev.18:4; Luke17:28-33; Rev.11:8; Mark8:35; 2Cor.6:17; Isa.52:11). 
As preparation for understanding that challenge, if you have not already done so, please read: ("Is leaving the City, enough?") << As that post reveals, those leaving must also turn to their spiritual fathers, for guidance ("Elijah turns hearts"). 
But what about anointed? Do they have all they need to be faithful, within their own personal anointing? 
(See 1Cor.12:21,28-29; Eph.4:11-12; 2:20-22) (1Cor.3:10)
No. 
Those who still hold on to WT ignorance concerning how the Body of Christ functions; misunderstand the meaning of 1John2:20,27.  The spirit teaches everything every member of the Body needs, to know the truth, through all the Body membersand all their anointed assignments by God (1Cor.12:18; 10:17; Eph.4:11-12,7,16; Rom.12:5). (discerning-body-God-of-order)
What a contrast this arrangement of God is, to the design of the "Watchtower", while it touts the "governing body" as the only "faithful slaves" (Isa.47:8-10; Rev.18:7), and those Gentiles whom it "crowns" (Isa.23:8; Rev.18:23; 9:7; 13:15; 19:20; Isa.47:6-7), to be over the Body of Christ! (2Thess.2:4; Rev.13:7,14-15,8)
The proud do not accept the interdependence among the members of Christ (Eph.4:16), nor do they successfully pass that next test of their humility, by Satan. They do not strive to learn from Christ what their place is under his headship, but rather, essentially assume by their actions, that they should be seated as an apostle, prophet, or teacher (Luke14:8-10; Matt.23:12).
As Paul said, "not all are apostles, are they? Not all are prophets, are they? Not all are teachers, are they?" (1Cor.12:29)
Perhaps all would like to be. But if they have not been chosen to bear a heavier load, that is because God knows what place is best for each one (Mark10:37-38; Luke12:48; James 3:1) (Rom.9:16). They do not understand that a heavier load is not a prestige, but rather, a responsibility of service 
(John7:18; 13:14-15; Luke22:26-27; Matt.20:27-28). Perhaps it is that very lack of understanding, which influenced God's choice (James 4:6,10; Prov.29:23; Matt.23:12).

Can a household steward care for a household, by himself?
Never (1Cor.12:21,25). He depends upon all the household servants to work along with him, as all servants do (including the steward), as all obey, cooperate with, and serve their common master, Christ (Eph.4:16). All slaves are striving for his approval, as they keep their eye on their own work (Gal.6:4; Rom.14:12). As we know from Luke12:45-46; stewards can also prove wicked.
Yet those who serve as a faithful foundation/steward for the others (Luke12:42) (apostles and prophets Eph.2:20; 1Cor.3:10), 
must be heeded (Heb.13:17; 2Tim.3:14; 1:13), and not hindered or challenged in an attempt to control their assignment as the Temple's foundation (1Cor.14:32-33) (Amos3:7; Jer.26:5-6; Rev.22:6) ("Prophets"). That is what happens, when all those coming out, wrongly assume that they are also prophets (Num.12:6; 2Pet.1:20-21). 
They do not comprehend nor understand God's own interpretation of prophetic truths (Gen.40:8; Rev.10:7), 
but think they do ("self- assuming / proud" 2Tim.3:2 and 1Cor.11:29), 
and as a result, they become contentious with the genuine prophets and publicly oppose the faithful, bringing judgment upon themselves. 

Each of us Chosen ones must "examine ourselves" to determine our own place in the Body (1Cor.11:28-31; Eph.4:7), 
as assigned by God (1Cor.12:18, 28), 
and then respect that peculiar assignment, working diligently from that place. All places are needed, by all. ("Discerning the 'Body' ")
So to answer your first question by means of the foregoing scriptures;
Those who usurp God's arrangement of His Temple (the Body of Christ), rebel against God's spirit, and fail what you ask... 
"are they the faithful anointed ones as well? " 
No. 
Even though they may have been "killed" / disfellowshipped, for being unsubmissive to the Beast and Harlot; they fail the next step of testing after leaving the "City". They fail to discern the Body of Christ and their place in it. Being proud, they rebel against God's arrangement, and sin against the Body of Christ. 
You see, there is a difference between resisting the Harlot because one is submissive to Christ's headship (which will carry forward into the Body), 
or, 
resisting the Harlot and her "elder" representatives of the Beast, because you are proud and feel superior to all. 

The test of unity with the Body, (which comes after disfellowshipping, outside the Beast), separates into two groups according to the motive which caused their expulsion from the Beast.
Dan.11:35 speaks of this, when it tells us that those who prove to be wise (those who wake up, begin their refinement, and get disfellowshipped), can yet stumble, because the refinement of the Holy Ones as a group, is not yet finished...
"Some of the wise will stumble, so that they (as a Bride Group) may be refined, purified and made spotless until the time of the end, for it will still come at the appointed time." (Dan.11:35)
Those who are stumbled after proving wise (Dan.12:3,10; 11:35), will be cut off from the vine of Christ and from under his headship. They will be outside the anointed household of the Master 
and the care of his appointed steward whom they have rejected. Yet they will not realize that they are outside the Body of Christ, until that condition is later made manifest (Matt.25:30; Luke8:18).
If they are proving to be genuine and faithful slaves of Christ, they will speak from the Word of God, and from within and in harmony with, the faithful members of the Body of Christ.

2. Will those who are truly anointed be directed to your blog? 

Through parable, Christ has disclosed that most of those God has chosen as his priests, will not attend the marriage feast, nor receive the revealing of "the true words of God" (Rev.19:9; 10:7). Why? Because they are preoccupied with the commerce of the Beast (Matt.22:3,5,8; 25:10; Rev.13:17; Isa.56:11-12; Luke12:19-20; Rev.18:3; Jer.51:7; Isa.19:14; 28:7-8; Micah 2:11; Matt.24:49; 2Pet.2:1; 1Thess.5:7,6).
(Eze.14:13,21; Rev.6:8; Isa.5:5; Luke21:24,22)
But "those whom God calls" will be awoken (Joel2:32; Jer.3:14; Luke17:34-37; Rom.11:26; John15:26; Isa.60:1-3; Dan.12:2). 
It is then up to their own heart, if they continually turn to God in prayer, and humbly ask for His truth, in whatever way He has chosen to offer it. Yet it will always be offered through and by means of, God's own words found in scripture. We all must "keep testing" every teaching, to be sure it meets that standard (1John4:1; Matt.7:20; John16:13; Matt.10:27; John7:16-18) ("Fine Trees"). We each must discern and decide which prophet we accept (John13:20) or reject (2Thess.2:2; 2Cor.11:12-13; 1Tim.6:20; Eph.5:10-11; Rev.2:2; Matt.24:4-5,24-25). We may ask for and consider an opinion we respect, but no one else is responsible to advise or direct you in this life or death choice.
Yet, God has promised within prophecy; "There will be deliverance in Mount Zion", due to God providing it (Matt.19:25-26; 24:22; Joel 2:32; Isa.43:11-12; Rev.7:10). Christ's faithful slaves will exist (Rev.11:3; 8:2; 1:20; 10:7), but like Christ, they will largely be rejected, slandered, and killed (Rev.11:7-9; 6:9; 12:11; Mark 8:35)("Symbolic Death").
Those who have been sealed into the heavens (Joel2:32; Rev.14:1; Heb.12:22-23) will be producing "fruit" faithfully (John15:16), for food (Eze.17:23; 36:8; Matt.24:15-16; John15:8) (The Slain) ("The Marriage Feast"). Christ stands at the door and knocks, but if he is to come in and serve food to them (Rev.3:20; Luke12:37), they must receive it the way he, as head, is providing it... from within, Zion (Ps.110:2; Heb.1:7,14; 2:16) (Yhwh's genuine Mountain).
I have been told many times, that the anointed who recognize the voice of Christ in what I offer, acted in harmony with the above verses.
Like I did, they turned to God for guidance, and for help to find other anointed who are striving to stand as faithful before Christ's inspection.
They speak of finding my blog (in various ways), and express that they believe God's spirit directed them as a reply to their humble prayer.
  Yet there are other anointed (and not anointed), who it seems, do not recognize truth in what I am teaching. They criticize my person, my motives, and my words, but never do so by means of the scriptures. 
They do not come seeking to cling to, and cooperate with, the rest of the Body members, nor what Christ is revealing at this time. They go off, often joining up with others who feed on flattery (Prov.29:5; 2Tim.4:3-4). They gather to the same house / forum, to keep expressing their own proud opinions (Prov.18:2), though never seem able to make progress in wisdom, nor harmonious agreement with their associates (2Tim.3:7) (Dan.12:4; Amos 8:12). They may have been truly anointed, but have failed their next test. 
Yes, this is the gamut of the Great Tribulation. It will continue testing the Called ones, until the harvest is finished (Luke 13:24; 21:36). We will know it is done, when the Harlot, falls (Rev.6:10-11; 19:2) (144000 - When?).

3. Those ex witness activists who have left the organization and speak against it -- They are not marked by the beast? -- or are they? 

It seems your next question is asking if and how those who criticize the organization might still be marked by the Beast.
I see three spiritual groups who have left the organization. I will try to explain.
Those who criticize can be faithfully declaring God's message of condemnaton, OR
they can be like predatory birds and dogs, who crave to feed upon the flesh/sins of others. They do not grieve for unfaithful sinners within the corrupt organization... seeking to do all they can to snatch them out of the fire by giving an open testimony (John18:20). No, they relish tearing others apart. It makes them feel righteous and superior. ("Hated Birds"
Such ones may not be marked as slaves to the Beast's deceptions; but they have not been rescued from the mother covenant of death, under whose "confusion", they still are. Their confidence in themselves, is unfounded. Only those who come under the mother covenant of life, are saved for eternal life (Gal.4:26, 24; Mal.2:5).

Now there is another group who criticize the organization for it's faults. They target the leadership as responsible for all it's corruption. But that group of reformists believe that if the leaders are willing to change, or if they are removed, that this will solve the problem. Such anointed and others believe, that the organization is still "God's spirit-directed earthly organization" (2Thess.2:11,9-12; Rev.13:8), 
and that if the corruption is removed, all will be set right again.
They fail to recognize the true interpretation of Revelation's symbolic identities.
Yes... these ones ARE still marked by the Beast, despite their criticism of it, and despite the fact that many of them are outside the "City".
Among these, are anointed who have been disfellowshipped for standing up to what they viewed as corruption or false doctrine. 
But if they still revere the "disgusting thing"/"abomination"/blasphemous Beast/"man of lawlessness", as belonging over God's "holy place"/Temple/priesthood;
then they are still marked by the false teachings of the organization, and still follow demon-inspired sayings (1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 13:14-15,8; 19:20) ("666"). 

Such anointed are poised to become those who fulfill the identity of the ten kings, who "rule one hour with the Beast" (Who are "kings of earth"?) (Rev.17:12), if they return to "rule" after the Harlot/governing body, is removed.
Anyone who still reveres the organization as belonging to God/divine, are still idolaters, and are still marked by the Beast's "number" (Rev.13:17-18) ("666")

So you see, there can be a few reasons to criticize the organization. Those reasons can be good or bad.
We can be criticizing the organization, but can have differing beliefs about it. We can believe that all it stands for is fake, or we can believe it contains God's spirit and kingdom. 
Those who accept any of the lying doctrines of the organization, are still symbolically marked by that deception. It's lies are in their heart... that is the meaning of the mark (Deut.11:18) (Rev.13:16). (Mark of Beast)
The result is that they will be moved by deception, to speak and to act, or to be silent and paralyzed. 

I hope I have offered all you needed.
If there is anything further you need, please ask.
I hope you know how precious you are to me, as are all the genuine faithful. 
How I rejoice to see another one of Christ's sheep, found!
(Matt.18:12-14) (Eze.14:22)

Love in Christ,

8 comments:

  1. "Among these, are anointed who have been disfellowshipped for standing up to what they viewed as corruption or false doctrine. But if they still revere the "disgusting thing"/"abomination"/blasphemous Beast/"man of lawlessness", as belonging over God's "holy place"/Temple/priesthood;then they are still marked by the false teachings of the organization, and still follow demon-inspired sayings"

    This is certainly true of Robert King who proclaims himself Gods Prophet. He says 1914 is wrong,but he is still marked by the "demon-inspired sayings" that the Beast preaches,that the Signs such as War,food shortages etc,happen within satans world. The signs "performed in front of the Beast" are those created by satan to look spirit inspired in their so called understanding of "prophetic fulfillment". So Robert continues to preach the signs supplied by satan...making himself an angel/messenger of satan...because satan supplied the signs Robert continues to say is the true understanding of the Birth-pang signs.

    The Signs performed in front of the beast,supplied by satan are deceiving those who refuse to listen to Christ about something as basic as WHO are affected by "Birth-pangs". Rev 12:2. By using satans signs within his world,Robert is being used to deceive those who are hurt and lost because of harm done within jws. We have to expose this ! But it is an example of what you say above. They may have been DFed for disagreeing with the GB,but he is MARKED by the Beast because he still preaches as truth the false signs within satans world,as the fulfillment of the "Birth-pang signs". Which they are NOT!

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    1. Robert King also directs people to remain inside the Beast and in subjection to it, even telling others to go to it to learn the basics. He still views the Organization, as being God's and as having God's spirit, even though he sees it is teaching false doctrine.
      That is blasphemy, because it reveres the "Watchtower", according to Satan's "operation of error", which is the lie that the "Watchtower" Organization is functioning as the "God's earthly organization". God's earthly organization and abode of His spirit, is the hearts of God's faithful priests (1Cor.3:16)... not in the "wood and stone" of the "Watchtower", nor in its Gentile idolators. To direct someone to gain faith based upon "Watchtower" doctrine, is to direct them to receive the mark of the Beast.
      (http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/mark-of-beast.html)
      To send those searching for truth, to go join with idolaters, so that they can partake of the Harlot's wine of vipers leading to death, is certainly to lead others into a pit.
      Robert King must certainly still be marked by the Beast himself, to be so blinded by present demonic utterances (1Tim.4:1; Rev.16:13-16) that he gives such direction.
      The mark is defined by having our hearts guided by either true doctrine (Rev.7:3; Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1; 22:4), or false (Rev.13:16; 17:5; 14:8-10).
      If Robert King fails to discern between the "abomination causing desolation", and Gods authentic Temple, and that the "abomination" should be feeding Christ's sheep; then he is still drunk and asleep himself.
      As you say, he has also fallen prey to Satan's red herring... the counterfeit fulfillment of prophecy, as staged by Satan himself (1John5:19).

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    2. I once asked Robert repeatedly, if he considered himself a prophet, and, Did he fulfill God's own definition of one, based on Num.12:6. He refused to reply. I doubt he has been shown in divine vision, God's own interpretation of Revelation (Gen.40:8; Rev.10:7; 19:9; 22:6,16; Amos 3:7) ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE (https://pearl-sign.blogspot.com).
      That explains why he is overcome by Satan's present deceptions, despite his overconfident and unfounded boasting, and the spiritual death that results to all who are guided by his self-delusion (Rev.14:9; 13:8; 20:15; Ps.69:28; 2Thess.2:9-12; Rev.19:20; Matt.24:24-25; Luke21:8).
      Perhaps I missed his published account of his own anointing by holy spirit; but the only explanation I have found of why he has concluded that he is of the Chosen, was due to his "insatiable desire to read" the Bible books of the prophets. I don't know why he concluded that such a desire is actually being anointed by God through Christ. But if you ask anyone who has really been through God's anointing; they will vouch that a desire to read has nothing to do with it... either in the first century, or today.
      God calls us through Christ (John14:6; 6:44). Christ is the Word through whom the scriptures, are.
      But being called to scripture/Word/Christ, is only the first step. If we fail our calling, we will not advance to being chosen. If never Chosen, we can not be among the faithful (Rev.17:14). If after being called through the scriptures, we self-conclude that we are a prophet (Luke14:8; Phil.2:3; Eph.5:21; John7:16-18; Rom.2:8) (Or greater yet... one of the four "watchmen" -Rev.4:8), we have failed our initial calling (Prov.16:18; Matt.23:12; Gal.6:3; 1Cor.8:2; 2Cor.11:12-13; Eph.5:11).
      I saw that recently, Robert King attempted to bolster his claim as true prophet, by telling "JW's" to take note of the fact that "apostates" are condemning him.
      He of all people should concede, that condemnation in itself, is not the sign of authenticity.
      Otherwise, all the anointed whom Robert King has denounced and thrown off his forum, would be authentic, no?

      Both the genuine and the impostors (Jer.2:26; Isa.47:3), suffer condemnation.
      The authentic are proven true, not by the condemnation of men alone (Matt.5:11; 10:22; John12:42; 16:2; Heb.13:13)
      but by righteousness that is discerned by one faithfully relaying the words of God (Rom.3:4; 1Pet.4:11; John7:17,16,18; 2Pet.1:21)... not relaying the conditions within Satan's world as prophecy.
      Jesus told us how to distinguish between true and false prophets (Mal.3:18).
      "By their fruit you will recognize those men." (Matt.7:20)
      (https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com)

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  2. Loved the point about him appointing himself a watchman...and how thats another misapplication of scripture for his own self glory! (Rev 4:8)

    Rev16:14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty."

    Armageddon is The Civil War of Truth within Anointed. Rev12:7. What is that divides Anointed? The Signs! One group of Anointed are being told the Truth about the Signs from Christ,thus they are His Anointed angel/messengers. This is in contrast with how they used to think the true signs were,when they were asleep and trampled within jws.

    The other camp of Anointed are people like Robert and the Anointed reformists,who believe the counterfeit Signs presented by satan. They thus are Anointed angel messengers for satan.

    Both groups are "gathered" to the War of Truth,because the truth from Christ will force Anointed to choose,whose Angel/messengers they will be. There will only be two sides. No Anointed can remain outside this Civil War...they will have to Choose Christ or satan.

    The reformists and Robert think the org is "redeemable" BECAUSE of the signs supplied to the Beast organisation by satan. Thus they battle Anointed like yourself who have been SHOWN BY CHRIST,this is satans organisation...based on HIS SIGNS.

    Has there been another organisation that has pioneered satans counterfeit signs like jws? No. So the Civil War of Armageddon,is being fought within the organisation/Beast that satan has given HIS signs to. Thus the "gathering" to fight Armageddon begins within jws,the organisation given the Signs by satan.

    That Robert appointed himself a prophet is consistent with his being DFed. He was proud/arrogant and thought people should agree with him simply because he claimed to be Anointed. Yet,what he said showed he represented satan by the signs satan gave the org. He is in it for his own glory and people looking up to him. Whats is more wondrous than representing Christ and His Truth? Nothing! But Robert is like satan,he wants people to look up to him,so now he describes himself as a prophet also,though everything he says about prophecy is BASED ON SATANS SIGNS within his world...the SAME ONES given the Beast. He is still branded by the Beast and what satan gave it. Rev16:14.

    His lies about the counterfeit signs supplied by satan, prove he is an Anointed Angel/messengers for satans inspired false signs. Rev 12:7. This has been the case for the 13 years he has been a false prophet!

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  3. Thanks you so much for these comments that has helped me see clearly what Armageddon really is. I am so grateful to Jah that he has released me from following and believing a false prophets lies. Pearl it truly was a miracle from Jah that he used a Romanian brother to speak to my heart and direct me to this wonderful wilderness where I can be fed spiritually by Christ. Thank you for your faithfulness to him and thank you RandomAbstractness for your comments as well.

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    1. Like the Israelites of old, we are in the wilderness of test... the time between our leaving Egypt (Rev.11:8) and our entry into our land of promise (Heb.13:14). Like the Israelites, we are being fed "hidden manna" (John6:49-50; Rev.2:17; John14:21) to carry us through (Rev.12:6,14). Yet we keep in mind, that divine sustenance is by God's grace, and not because of our own superiority (Matt.24:22; Luke 18:26-27; 1Cor.4:7; Rev.3:3,2). We too, were captives of Satan's abyss... under his mother covenant of death. We had fallen asleep, drunk on the Harlot's wine... neglecting our divine assignment. We have been rescued from the sting of death, are undergoing refinement, that we may offer acceptable sacrifices under the Headship of Christ. When we were yet captives in the "world"/system/age of the wicked steward; we too were overcome by darkness... alienated from the light of Christ (Col.1:21; Eph.2:12; Rom.5:9-11; 2Cor.5:18-20). Having been saved, we must offer that reconciliation to yet others. We have hope that like us, they too might repent, and be snatched out of the fire.
      There is yet time, for all God's people (1Pet.2:9-10) to repent and be forgiven... to be rescued from Satan's magnum opus... the Great Tribulation of deception and confusion, aimed against the remaining ones of the woman's seed (Rev.12:17; 17:14; 19:11,14). Now is the acceptable time for repentance (2Cor.6:1-2). Once the Harlot is thrown down, the sifting/harvest is finished, all those called and chosen are sealed under their master of choice, and the door to heaven is shut. It is therefore vital, that we do not give up on anyone, until the finale is announced (Dan.12:7; Rev.6:11; 10:5-7; 14:14-16; Rev.21:6-7). Although we, like Christ, must expose falsehood; we must also keep uppermost in our ministry, humility and love (1Cor.13:1-7; Luke 15:17-32). Let us pray that all of God's sons as possible, awaken from these dark days, and return to the care of their Father in heaven (Rev.10:6; Zeph.2:2-3; Isa.51:1).

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  4. Hello Pearl and others

    Just a brief comment for now as I am at local library and only have 7minutes left on p.c. I thought about the idea that ones in jw.org who do not allow themselves to be killed by it in d/f. Surely we can compare to 1st century and Christ said his followers would be persecuted and killed but not every Christian was put to death but generally speaking none escaped some form of persecution. So these ones may not be of the number who are killed does not mean they subject to the beast?

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    1. Because of length, I have left your reply as a post. It is located, here:
      http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html

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