A QUESTION:
Please explain this to me: Rev 12:9, where are the sealed anointed when that scripture is fulfilled? Are they with King Jesus in heaven or still on earth and when Jesus comes back is he sealing them then or does that happen before he comes?
REPLY:
Dear Xxxx,
Rev.12:9
"And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
First you wanted to know...
Where the sealed anointed are when this is fulfilled.
Please explain this to me: Rev 12:9, where are the sealed anointed when that scripture is fulfilled? Are they with King Jesus in heaven or still on earth and when Jesus comes back is he sealing them then or does that happen before he comes?
REPLY:
Dear Xxxx,
Rev.12:9
"And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
First you wanted to know...
Where the sealed anointed are when this is fulfilled.
They are in both places, because to be sealed simply means that you are a slave of God, obedient to His laws
[ Deut.11:18; Rev.14:1 (in heaven) and on earth -Heb.8:10; Rom.6:17]
A problem arises when you see heaven as a literal place, rather than a belonging to a realm, a citizenship. Those on earth can attain a heavenly position (Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22-23; Luke 10:18-20).
The "woman" of heaven (Rev.12:1) is seen on earth so that,
once thrown to the earth, Satan can still pursue her (Rev.12:13).
When the Covenant gives birth to the final sealed ones, those sealed ones become representatives and caretakers of their mother covenant (1Pet.3:6; Rev.12:6).
The promise/covenant is fulfilled, and no longer just a promise. It's members on earth (living stones) are now part of a completed , functioning temple (1Pet.2:5; Rev.2:1; Exo.25:37,40; Rev.7:15).
I know this may sound confusing. I will try to explain.
The covenant, was a promise...a promise that the stars of the heavens will become New Jerusalem, the Bride of Christ, a mother of the New Creation (Isa.62:5; Gen.26:4; Dan.12:3; Gal.4:26) to bring forth further, seed during their reign with Christ during the Thousand Years.
--It is crucial to know when Christ's reign begins and ends
(Luke 22:69; Ps.110:1; 1Cor.15:25; Rev.20:7-8; 16:14; 17:14; 12:17; 11:7; 13:7,10; Col.2:8)
When Christ returns to reward the faithful, then the eternal Kingdom of God ensues... a new heavens and earth, of a new creation (Rev.21:2; Gen.32:12).
Each Chosen one must individually conquer Satan and his world, thereby casting him down from their own heart. When accomplished, that victor is of heaven.
Jesus fulfilled the Covenants with the nation of Israel, Aaron, and Abraham. He was the promised "seed" of Abraham (Gal.3:16). His Father was both YHVH and Abraham (Matt.3:17; Matt.1:1), and his mother was the Covenant with the Jews (Israel), and Sarah.
This covenant with Abraham was based upon the gesture of Abraham, in "as good as" sacrificing Isaac (Heb.11:17). For Abraham's faith, he was promised that the Messiah of Creation would come from his progeny. Once that seed appeared (Christ), his perfect blood could establish a better covenant (Heb.8:7). It would enable forgiveness of sins permanently, for those in that Covenant (Heb.9:22; Rev.5:9-10). This would enable Christ to share his inheritance promised Abraham, with fellow humans (Gal.3:29,26; Rev.20:6; Gen.17:5; Gal.3:16,29).
When Christ returns to reward the faithful, then the eternal Kingdom of God ensues... a new heavens and earth, of a new creation (Rev.21:2; Gen.32:12).
Each Chosen one must individually conquer Satan and his world, thereby casting him down from their own heart. When accomplished, that victor is of heaven.
Jesus fulfilled the Covenants with the nation of Israel, Aaron, and Abraham. He was the promised "seed" of Abraham (Gal.3:16). His Father was both YHVH and Abraham (Matt.3:17; Matt.1:1), and his mother was the Covenant with the Jews (Israel), and Sarah.
This covenant with Abraham was based upon the gesture of Abraham, in "as good as" sacrificing Isaac (Heb.11:17). For Abraham's faith, he was promised that the Messiah of Creation would come from his progeny. Once that seed appeared (Christ), his perfect blood could establish a better covenant (Heb.8:7). It would enable forgiveness of sins permanently, for those in that Covenant (Heb.9:22; Rev.5:9-10). This would enable Christ to share his inheritance promised Abraham, with fellow humans (Gal.3:29,26; Rev.20:6; Gen.17:5; Gal.3:16,29).
Through Christ's death, this New Covenant was put in force (Luke 22:20). Jesus himself was resurrected under that New Covenant...the firstborn from the dead (Heb.2:17; 1Cor.15:20,23). In this, he was no longer the "Isaac" born in the manner of flesh (Gal.4:28; 3:14; 2Cor.1:20) ...but he then became reborn as Jacob/Israel (Isaac's son); and spiritual father to the 12 tribes of spiritual Israel
(John 3:6; 1Pet.3:18; Psalm 45:16; Isa.9:6; Rev.21:12).
The first Covenant, brought forth Jesus Christ and his Jewish brothers /"Isaac" (Gal.4:28).
The second Covenant mother (Christ's Bride Gal.4:26) brought forth the entire administration (Eph.1:10; 2:20-21,22), who inherit the same promises (eternal kings) with Christ.
That promise includes God's eternal Kingdom....the means by which the rest of creation receives life (Rev.22:2-3,17). That provision of life is another woman, another covenant (Rev.21:9).
Once the "woman" gives birth, she becomes, no longer a promise, but the reality. In other words, the covenant/woman which makes life possible for the earthly creation, materializes, and is made up of the living stones of a tangible Temple/Tent of God....the 144000 sons of God...not just a promise in heaven, of a future hope....but a reachable provision for tears to be removed.
The reason I tell you these things, is because once the woman ("in heaven" Rev.12:1) gives birth, she is then seen on the earth (no longer in heaven -Rev.12:13,15,17). This is because when she gives birth, this indicates that all heirs are sealed (Rev.12:5; 2:26-27). When they are all sealed, the Covenant's members are no longer children of promise. God's promises are kept. They become the mother/covenant to the rest of Creation Isa.49:8; Rev.21:2-3,4). The Covenant goes from being a promise in heaven....to being a reality made up of the 144000 and remnant of her seed....whose living human members are on earth. They are the covenant mother to the rest of the New Creation. They are members of the Holy City, New Jerusalem (Rev.20:9; 3:12; Psalm 144:12; 45:15)...the temple of God, in which God's spirit dwells (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:21-22). They are the source of living waters in the earth (2Cor.4:7; John 4:14), and the means by which the rest of Creation attains life...the new "mother"/Covenant made up of living members (Rev.22:17; John 6:51,53).
The new "seed" of that living, tangible covenant will be all the new creation ...all the Nations of the earth that will "bless themselves" by means of Abraham's seed, the 144000 and remnant/Great Crowd. In time, all those born of this mother/Christ's bride, will become adopted children of God....just as Jesus and Adam originally were while sinless (Luke 3:38; Matt.16:16, 1Cor.15:45). Then Abraham will have seed as numerous as the sands of the sea...earthy seed....along with those who belong to heaven...the "stars" (Gen.15:5; Rom.8:21; Psalm 22:27; Zech.14:9).
The remnant/great crowd, is on earth after they are sealed...previous to going to "heaven".
After the adoption/marriage in heaven, the kingdom government goes into effect on earth (Rev.21:2; 5:10).
When Jesus comes back is he sealing them then or does that happen before he comes?
Once Jesus arrives to call his slaves into account... to either reward them or cast them out into the darkness; it is too late to get sealed. You have either sacrificed yourself in behalf of the gospel, or you have not.
The first Covenant, brought forth Jesus Christ and his Jewish brothers /"Isaac" (Gal.4:28).
The second Covenant mother (Christ's Bride Gal.4:26) brought forth the entire administration (Eph.1:10; 2:20-21,22), who inherit the same promises (eternal kings) with Christ.
That promise includes God's eternal Kingdom....the means by which the rest of creation receives life (Rev.22:2-3,17). That provision of life is another woman, another covenant (Rev.21:9).
Once the "woman" gives birth, she becomes, no longer a promise, but the reality. In other words, the covenant/woman which makes life possible for the earthly creation, materializes, and is made up of the living stones of a tangible Temple/Tent of God....the 144000 sons of God...not just a promise in heaven, of a future hope....but a reachable provision for tears to be removed.
The reason I tell you these things, is because once the woman ("in heaven" Rev.12:1) gives birth, she is then seen on the earth (no longer in heaven -Rev.12:13,15,17). This is because when she gives birth, this indicates that all heirs are sealed (Rev.12:5; 2:26-27). When they are all sealed, the Covenant's members are no longer children of promise. God's promises are kept. They become the mother/covenant to the rest of Creation Isa.49:8; Rev.21:2-3,4). The Covenant goes from being a promise in heaven....to being a reality made up of the 144000 and remnant of her seed....whose living human members are on earth. They are the covenant mother to the rest of the New Creation. They are members of the Holy City, New Jerusalem (Rev.20:9; 3:12; Psalm 144:12; 45:15)...the temple of God, in which God's spirit dwells (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:21-22). They are the source of living waters in the earth (2Cor.4:7; John 4:14), and the means by which the rest of Creation attains life...the new "mother"/Covenant made up of living members (Rev.22:17; John 6:51,53).
The new "seed" of that living, tangible covenant will be all the new creation ...all the Nations of the earth that will "bless themselves" by means of Abraham's seed, the 144000 and remnant/Great Crowd. In time, all those born of this mother/Christ's bride, will become adopted children of God....just as Jesus and Adam originally were while sinless (Luke 3:38; Matt.16:16, 1Cor.15:45). Then Abraham will have seed as numerous as the sands of the sea...earthy seed....along with those who belong to heaven...the "stars" (Gen.15:5; Rom.8:21; Psalm 22:27; Zech.14:9).
The remnant/great crowd, is on earth after they are sealed...previous to going to "heaven".
After the adoption/marriage in heaven, the kingdom government goes into effect on earth (Rev.21:2; 5:10).
When Jesus comes back is he sealing them then or does that happen before he comes?
Once Jesus arrives to call his slaves into account... to either reward them or cast them out into the darkness; it is too late to get sealed. You have either sacrificed yourself in behalf of the gospel, or you have not.
Jesus is "present" while he is inspecting his chosen ones. However, this inspection is stealth and impossible for the unfaithful to discern.
That presence has been ever since he ascended into heaven. That presence is with all anointed, no matter when they have lived (Matt.28:20; 24:34).
That presence has been ever since he ascended into heaven. That presence is with all anointed, no matter when they have lived (Matt.28:20; 24:34).
This testing tribulation and inspection intensifies with the remnant, because of Satan's growing desperation, anger, and efforts to disqualify the chosen. During the thousand years Satan was restrained in the abyss. After the thousand years ended, Satan was released, and went off to wage war with the remnant, causing their Great Tribulation. During that time of inspection, the remnant is trampled by the Gentiles. Those who arise from that trial victorious, are the Great Crowd.
DURING that inspection, the final faithful ones are sealed. However, as each anointed one throughout time is sealed....the daystar rises in their own hearts
(2Pet.1:19; John 8:51; Rev.2:28,29; 22:16; 1Thess.5:5; Prov.4:18; Psalm 97:11; Matt.4:16; Eph.5:14).
The sealing of last faithful from among the "remaining ones" of the woman's "seed" (Rom.13:12; Isa.42:16), occurs during the heralding of the last Elijah (Luke1:76-77,78-79; Matt.17:11; Matt.25:6; Rev.11:3-4; Isa.40:1-2,3-4,5).
This is why the last anointed, who come through The Great Tribulation, receive special mention (Rev.7:14; 15:2). The remnant receive their "illumination" by means of the "marriage feast", which is reserved for only those anointed found faithful and wise (Matt.25:10; Luke 12:37).
Also invited to the marriage feast, are "all those leaving the City" of apostasy (Matt.22:8-9) due to their heeding the sayings and warnings of the faithful prophets (Matt.10:41-42; Rev.11:3; Matt.24:15-16; Eze.36:8; John 15:16; Rev.22:1-2).
Spiritual illumination by the Daystar happened to some degree for all anointed who attained to the full-grown stature of Christ as individuals...by following him in his full course (Rev.14:3,4; Mark 8:34-35; 1Pet.2:21; 1Cor.13:9). Then the last members of Christ's body is completed (Eph.4:13; John 2:19,21; 1John2:27; Exo.40:1,17,33-34; Heb.8:5,2; Eph.2:22; 1Kings8:10,11; Rev.15:8 1Cor.13:10) (1Cor.3:9; Eph.2:20-21,22; Rev.21:10-12,13-15,16-18,19-21,22-24,25-27).
So, not all become sealed at the same time. The only opportunity to be sealed as an obedient slave of God's Laws, is during your lifetime on earth. Jesus has been present during all the anointed being sealed, no matter when they live (Matt.28:20). But he has a special manifested presence in the time of the end, when last day revelations come from him
(Matt.24:3; 2Thess.2:8; 1John2:28; 2Tim.4:7,8; Titus 2:13; Rev.3:11; John 14:28,18; 1John2:28; Rev.1:1,3; 10:7)
It is hard to be exact, as you can see. Please ask more questions, if they become clear to you and you think it would help.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
It is hard to be exact, as you can see. Please ask more questions, if they become clear to you and you think it would help.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
So, am I right in understanding that the "last Elijah" is the same as the two witnesses, or is it one particular anointed one?
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