Saturday, October 6, 2012

Presence of Chosen Ones provides refuge and sustenance / Source of " Marriage Feast "

Here is a letter from a reader, who wants to discuss some scriptural points.

Dear Pearl,

To answer your question....I assume we agree there are those with an
earthly hope (like me), and others with a heavenly hope. Because of
that, as a Bible Student I obviously study future earthly fulfillment's!
I trust fully that Jesus will choose his own bride, and therefore
having recognized the JW "slave class" as evil (by their fruit), I
concluded the number to be sealed .

My "slave" (or leader or teacher) now became JESUS ... the TRUE anointed one !

To me; the question on every believers mind should be "How to survive
the great tribulation", which is cut short , and I learned it is not
HarMagedon YET !

It is good we just have a short introduction like this, to get to know
each other first.
So.... My earthly belief in our Lord Jesus, started with "flee to the
mountains", which is actually just SEPARATING (as a Nation) from
Satans cities and system, which is written directly before the great
tribulation . The support for this is enormous, from all the end time
prophets ! It is beautiful good news BLESSED by YaHWeH.... by OBEYING
His son, our Lord Jesus .

Isaiah 2:1,2,3,4,5 in the REAL sense, DURING the great tribulation on
Satan's cities and system, at Isa.2:6-22. Confirmed by Rev 6 the 6th seal

This is a small example of the flock (the woman) who "flies to the wilderness" .


"before us a garden of Eden - behind us a desolate waste " Joel2:1,2,3 . Blessings at Joel2:18-32 .. Ch 3 all . End time prophesy ...NO previous fulfillments, and TONS still to come .
An exciting marvelous future - HOPE for millions of the suffering and dying 

MY REPLY:


Okay Xxxx,
I see that I need to give you a lot of feedback, because there are things that you say about what I believe, that I actually do not believe.
Please may I tell you what I do believe about what you say...and why I believe it?

You say that there are those with a "heavenly hope", and those with an "earthly hope".
To try and make the "hope" which the Bible holds out, more clear...
It is the hope of "everlasting life"....which all who learn and obey truth can attain...the anointed prophet (1Cor.12:28), along with those who "receive them" (Matt.10:41).
Do you see at Matt.10:41, that the way the Bible puts it, the reward is the same?
It is true that the anointed will receive a spiritual birth (John 3:3), have spirit bodies (1Cor.15:53), and as a result, they will be able to see Yhwh's face (Matt.5:8; Rev.22:4)
.....something which flesh can not do (Exo.33:20). The purpose of their being in heaven, is so that they can be adopted as Yhwh's full sons (Rom.8:19,23; Rev.14:1; John 4:24; 3:6) 
and learn directly from Him (Rev.16:18; Psalm 77:18; John 12:28,29; Rev.10:4) before coming back down to earth...
bringing that pure, divine Truth with them (Rev.21:2; 22:1,2; John 1:51; Psalm 72:16).

Why do I tell you about this?
Because the "hope" of these Chosen firstborn Sons of God (Rev.20:6; 14:4), is not exclusively  "heavenly" (Heb.1:6; Acts 3:20,21).
These are the ones who inherit the earth, becoming eternal Kings upon it (Psalm 2:8; Rev.5:10; 21:2; Dan.2:44).
There is a purpose and a reason they are able to go to heaven (Rom.8:28,29,30; John17:22; Eph.1:5,10,11; 3:11; Heb.9:15) 
It is not to be imprisoned there, deprived of earth (John 8:36; 2Cor.3:17; Gal.4:31; Prov.10:22).
It is the firstborn sons of God and Christ that inherit the double portion, due to being "firstborn" sons (Deut.21:17; Isa.61:7)...[the world to come (2Pet.3:13; Heb.2:5,16; Rom.8:19,18; Ps.45:16) AND access to the heavens (1Pet.3:18; Rom.6:5; 1Cor.15:50,53; Rom.8:23,17; Matt.5:8; Rev.22:4; Ex.33:20; Acts 1:3; Psalm 2:8; Luke 22:29; Gen.22:18; 28:14,12)
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But in God's earthly family, there will be further children to come to life, after the firstborn (Rev.20:5 A; John 5:28,29; Acts 24:15). These too have hope of eternal life, and a sharing in the benefits of Christ's inheritance of the earth. These will live under the eternal kingdom of the faithful firstborn, who gave their lives that others might live, in imitation of their father, Lord, King, and Head, Jesus Christ. Of course, though Jesus is the life-giver to the 144,000, All owe everything to The Father, who will adopt Christ's firstborn (Rom.8:15,23; 9:4; Gal.4:5,6) that they can be fellow heirs with Christ.
  In a physical sense, this may compare to a Grandfather, who gave life and blessing to the actual father, and by which the anointed will receive whatever they have. They in turn, will also share their inheritance, with their earthly seed, and all Creation (Acts 20:35; Rom.8:19,21; Acts 3:21; Heb.1:6; 2Pet.3:13).
Once these finally reign over their inheritance with Christ (Rev.5:9,10; 20:6); they will be used as priests to provide life to the rest of God's earthly children (Rev.21:2,3,4,5; 22:2,17). Those who accept that "life" by righteousness and faith, will share in the blessings Adam lost...
the Garden of Eden, eternally. (Psalm 37:11)

The "fulfillments" to come...are the one same truth for all...living eternally in a righteous "new heavens and earth", filled with Truth (2Pet.3:13; Isa.11:9).
ALL will serve our God, regardless of where we are in the moment.....we are all slaves, and rightfully so (John 12:49; Rev.22:3). 
We are given differing positions within the Father's house (John 14:2)
Due to this, the firstborn will experience a different realm...but we all  rightfully worship our heavenly Father (Luke 18:19; Luke 4:8; Rev.19:4,5).

When you say.
" therefore, having recognized the JW "slave class" as evil (by their fruit), I
concluded the number to be sealed ."
Please let me tell you that from the start of the first chosen anointed....there were evil slaves. You will see this clearly, if you read Matt.13:24,25,26,27,28,29,30,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43. Not all who are chosen, prove faithful and discreet (Matt.25:1,2). 
Please realize that those who fail, are not just after all the faithful are sealed! All through the centuries, from the time of the apostles, there have been both faithful and unfaithful anointed. Both options are open to each one (2Pet.1:10; Heb.12:1), based upon what they cultivate in their own heart.........
the word of God, or the works of the flesh (Luke 8:15,21; Eph.4:23,24; 1John2:15,16).
However you are right....when we see the judgement arrive upon the unfaithful anointed, we will know that all are sealed, and the Kingdom is imminent (Rev.17:1,16). 

It is good that Jesus has become your leader, instead of men. But you must also accept that Jesus uses men, chosen priests, who are the channel of the water of life (Mal.2:7; 1Pet.2:9; John 7:38; Rev.22:1,2).
Without them, you will not find the spiritual provisions you need (Matt.24:45; 1Cor.4:1; Col.1:25; Heb.13:7). To see Bible proof of this, please read http://pearl-divineeducation.blogspot.com
and more about this subject of two kinds of slaves...
http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/05/where-is-true-religion.html

The "Great Tribulation" is "cut short" (limited) to prevent the final "Chosen" ones from losing their own salvation (Matt.24:22,24).
Yes, the "salvation" to which Jesus referred at Matt.24:22, was the very same salvation that Christ's followers seek....not physical, but spiritual (Matt.19:25,26; Luke 13:23,24; 12:4,5; 9:24). Jesus would not warn his brothers about a threat to their physical lives, which Christ regarded as of little significance. In fact, Jesus knew that he as well as his faithful brothers, would be surrendering their present souls (Mark8:35; Matt.20:28; Rom.6:5; John10:18; Rev.6:9; 11:7; 12:11; 20:4)
Many imagine that Jesus viewed things as they do (1Cor.2:14), and so they interpret Matt.24:22 as a physical salvation. They are mistaken.
The danger to their spiritual lives, is Matt.24:24.

Understandably, Satan has demanded to test the Chosen Heirs, just as he did Job (Luke 22:31; Job 1:8; Rev.9:5,6,10). 
This greatest time of testing, is when Satan's time is short, and he knows he is about to lose the earth to these heirs. That final testing, is the Great Tribulation.
It is that testing by great deception (2Thess.2:9,10,11,12; Rev.13:13,14,8; 16:13; 19:20; 20:10), which causes the anointed to take sides (Rev.16:13,14,15,16)
.....for truth and the persecution which results (Rev.6:9)....or for Satan's lies and their worldly rewards (Rev.17:12,18; 2Thess.2:4; Heb.3:13; 1John 2:15,16; 1Cor.4:8; Rev.3:17,18) (Matt.4:8,9; Rev.9:1,11).
The battle that results [between demonic deceptive lies, and divine revelations of truth, IS ARMAGEDDON. 
(Rev.16:13,14,15; 17:14; 19:11,14; 12:10,11; 20:8,9; 11:5; 20:12,15)
When you say...we flee from "Satan's cities and system", I am hoping you realize that this is not the literal physical world that we are fleeing from at Matt.24:15,16 (Jer.4:6) .... but it is from apostate Jerusalem, the "disgusting thing", and the unfaithful anointed leaders and "her" domain of lethal deceptions (Rev.18:4; 8:10,11; 13:11,15,8; 2Thess.2:4,9).

You compare Isa.2:1-5 with Rev.6.
Isa.2:2,3,4 is speaking of the arrival of the completed Mt. Zion (Rev.14:1);
and Rev.6 is referring to the tribulation. I do not really see that they are the same.
Not really clear on what you mean.
Yet I do see and agree, that the members of that sealed completed group, still alive on earth at the time of the end, do belong to the "woman" (Gal.4:26) who is now confined to the earth (after giving birth), and flies into the wilderness to be fed (Rev.12:6,14; Eze.34:25,27).(see pearl-thewoman.blogspot.com)

"Fleeing to the mountains" (Matt.24:16; Psalm 72:3; Eze.36:8; Jer.4:6) is not just a separating from the bad (Matt.24:15)....
but a running to a place of refuge, provisions, and safety (Eze.34:26)...
the "Judean Hills" (Amos 7:12,13,14,15,16,17).
  That place is the Judean "wilderness",
where spiritual food will be found for those with spiritual perception (Matt.24:28 ("eagle", not "vulture"); Job 39:27,29; Matt.6:22; Rev.12:14,6; 11:3).

But, as with the other Bible identities, the "wilderness" is a place of testing, previous to inheriting the Promises (Matt.4:1; Rev.16:15; 2:10,25; 3:11).
During that symbolic 40 years 
(Exo.24:18; Matt.4:1,2; Deut.29:5; 8:2; Joshua 5:6; Num.14:34) 
after the Israelites had left Egypt; they were sorted...fit from unfit (Eze.34:20,21,22,17; Matt.25:32)... and those who passed, were refined (Dan.11:35; 12:10; Matt.24:10; Mal.3:2,3; Rev.7:14; 22:14).
Jesus himself told us to "flee to the mountains" when we see the "disgusting thing standing in the Holy Place" (Matt.24:15,16). If you would like to learn more about how the Bible interprets this, as well as where these mountains exist today, please consider:
pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com

Joel 2:1,2,3, 25 is a reference to the plague prophesied to be caused by the locust-scorpions of Rev.9:2,3,7; unleashed upon God's remnant people in the time of the end.
These are the "Nations" which Yhwh allows to be sent among his wayward (unsealed) chosen ones, because of their turning away from Yhwh....to subject themselves to these locusts and the fallen star "wormwood" who is over the locust/scorpions (Rev.9:4,5,6; 8:10,11; 9:1; 13:11,15,8; Jer.8:16,17,19).
Only those who repent (in sackcloth Luke 10:13) of this worship of men/locust scorpions/image of the wild beast (Rev.11:3); and leave behind this captivity (Rev.13:10; 9:14; Eze.34:28)
will be sealed and fed the final Truths 
(Isa.59:20,21; Rev.20:4; Luke 12:37; Rev.3:20,22; 1:1,2,3).
All leaving the apostate City, will be invited to that spiritual feast (Matt.22:8,9,10)
Only those "leaving the City" will be offered the marriage feast (Matt.22:9).
How so?
       (Matt.22:9 literally says "those on the way out of the City", 
        which tells us that the standard for invitation, is to be 
        exiting apostate "Jerusalem", which would be the same 
        ones who are obeying Jesus.... Matt.24:16). (See ISV)

        Jesus promised, that anyone (anointed or not) brave enough to leave
        the apostate "city" Jerusalem; would be invited to the marriage feast 
        of the Lamb (Matt.22:2,8,9; Luke 14:15; Rev.19:7,9,10; 22:6; 
        Rev.1:1; 5:2,5,7; 6:1). That feast has begun.
        At Matt.22:9, the Greek actually says specifically...
       "diexodous"
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         n_ Acc Pl f
         THRU-OUT-WAYS
         EXITS
         ...that although it is often translated ("street corners", "broad way", etc.),
         it is those who are on the road "leaving" the City, which are invited to 
         this end-time spiritual feast of truth.


The "Great Tribulation" (Matt.24:21 -the Greek clarifies the meaning) is a great "sifting" that tests all those who claim to worship the True God. It's scale and intensity will be the greatest test of hearts ever to occur to God's people, the Chosen Ones (Matt.24:24,25,22). The deceptive power Satan unleashes during that time (Rev.12:9,15; 13:2,11,7; 16:13,14; 2Thess.2:4,9,10,12), would ruin the salvation and sealing of the anointed exposed to it, unless that test was "cut short"....limited by God's intervention, on behalf of the chosen (Matt.24:22; 19:26). This sorting tribulation exposes God's people to the Truth (through faithful anointed slaves bearing fruit from their lips) 
(John15:8,5; Heb.13:15; Rev.11:3; 6:9,11)
and Lies (through unfaithful slaves offering wormwood and rotten fruit) 
(Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,2; Acts 20:30; Matt.7:15; 24:4,5; Rev.13:11; 18:23).

God's people must choose which they will believe and obey ["forehead" and "hand" (Deut.6:6,8; Matt.22:2; Rev.5:7; John 15:15; Rev.1:1; Matt.22:4; Rev.3:20; Matt.22:10; Rev.19:9; 22:17) (Rev.13:16; Isa.44:20; Matt.5:30)].

The simultaneous presence of both offerings ("fine fruit"/truth and "rotten fruit"/lies Matt.7:20) is due to the war already being fought, between those providing truths and those releasing lies.
The war between Satan's seed, and the faithful in covenant with God 
(Gen.3:15; Rev.12:7; 9:3; 13:7; 19:11,14,8; 16:13,14,16) 
has been raging since Eden.
["woman" = covenant (pearl-thewoman.blogspot.com)]
Armageddon is the final battle of this war, ...when the last of the 144000 are sealed, due to their faithfully providing Truth along with Christ 
(Rev.2:16; John 8:28; Heb.4:12; Rev.12:11; 6:9,11; 14:5; 20:4) 
at the cost of their lives (in imitation of Jesus'example) 
(Rev.12:11; 6:9; Mark 8:35; Rom.6:5).
During that final battle, the unfaithful (Satan's seed/angel messengers) also will become irrevocably sealed, due to their leaving God and providing "wormwood" teachings, along with their "slaughtering" of the faithful 
[1John3:12; Rev.6:9; 13:15; 11:7; 20:4; 17:6) (Rev.8:10,11; (Rev1:20; Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3) Rev.16:13,14].

So you see...during this battle between truth and lies, God's people are exposed to both. This causes a choice...a "Tribulation"....a sifting and sorting as either loving truth (Prov.4:6; John14:15,6; Luke 10:27) or as loving lies (2Thess.2:10,11; Rom.1:25).
This is why it takes place in "the valley of the decision" (Joel 3:14,2,12) where God foretells a judgment of his own people, as worthy of death [Jer.1:18,19; 6:27; 26:12; Micah 3:8; Isa.28:21,22; Eze.7:1-27 (click on Eze.7 to open)]. Only a remnant/few, will survive/remain standing (Rom.9:27; Matt.7:14; Luke 21:34,35,36).
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Once this testing is completed (through all the anointed making their choice/sealed); God removes His protection from the whole world, and Satan goes to work as the "Destroyer". Only those who have chosen God as their Savior and Father, will be protected. (Isa.43:11; Rev.7:10)

These things I have given you, are what Holy Spirit has given me, regarding the references you send me.
Hopefully if you make a comparison, you will be able to add to your Faith and understanding.
Thank you for sending me your thoughts.

Yhwh bless you,
Pearl


2 comments:

  1. I am supporting what you say... :
    "Fleeing to the mountains" (Matt.24:16) is not just a separating from the bad (Matt.24:15)....
    but a running to a place of refuge, provisions, and safety.
    That place is the "wilderness",
    --------------------
    The inspired Scriptures tell what (who) "the mountains" are ... Ezekiel 36:
    8. But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people Israel; for they are at hand to come.

    9. For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn into you, and ye shall be tilled and sown;

    10. and I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it; and the cities shall be inhabited, and the waste places shall be builded;

    11. and I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and be fruitful; and I will cause you to be inhabited after your former estate, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am Jehovah.
    ..........
    as long as the "mountains" were in "enemies' possession" (see verse 2) , they were "fruitless" (not bearing fruits in righteousness)
    but when Jehovah does make them free from under Beast's power , He cause them to bear fruits...that is Truth from Holy Spirit...
    so, to (on) these living "mountains" has to go those who "flee"
    ...
    and yes , this happens "in the wilderness" ...
    because "in the wilderness" is Jehovah now preparing a WAY called "the Holy Way"
    Isaiah 35:1,8,10
    8. And a highway shall be there, and a way; and it shall be called the Holy Way. The unclean shall not pass over it, but it shall be for the redeemed; the wayfaring men, yes, the simple ones and fools, shall not err in it and lose their way. (amplified B.)

    this Way is Jehovah's property and it leads toward His Kingdom !

    http://bibleforum.reslight.net/index.php/topic,130.0.html

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  2. Thank you so much for your wonderful supplement.
    Pearl

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