Saturday, October 13, 2012

Organized Religion

Regarding Organized religions...their operations, buildings, and heirarchy;

God who made the world and all that is in it, being Lord of both Heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by human hands, nor is He ministered to by human hands, as though He had need of anything - seeing that He is the One who gives to all men life and breath and everything else.
(Acts 17:24-25).

It is one of our natural, human desires to want to do something for those we love, and this obviously includes doing things for God; we desire to please Him with whatever we can do for Him. This was clearly demonstrated by Peter when he saw Jesus revealed (Matthew 17:1-2,3-4). Peter's natural response upon seeing Jesus, Moses and Elijah was the desire to do something: to construct and build something for all three men. He said: "Lord, it is good for us to be here; let us make three shelters (or tabernacles) one for You, one for Moses, and one for Elijah". This was his natural, human reaction without even needing to think about it!

So many of us today do exactly the same thing as Peter with those we perceive to be spiritual men and women - and without thinking about it. We delight in them, they are awe-inspiring, they are our heroes. We love to listen to them and while we may not physically build a tabernacle or temple for them, in our hearts we may effectively do so without realizing it, and end up worshiping them instead of Yhvh *and His Son (*see footnote). Moses and Elijah were great men of God, but God's response to this suggestion of building something was, and still is: "THIS is My dearly loved Son, who brings Me great joy; listen to HIM!" (Matt.17:4-5).

When God breaks our mindsets and opens our eyes to see and hear His Son, our response is the same as that of the disciples: "When the disciples heard the voice, they were so afraid that they fell flat on the ground. But Jesus came over and touched them. He said, "Get up and don't be afraid!" (Matt.17:6-7,8) When they opened their eyes, they saw only Jesus."
Through what they saw, and in hearing God's admonition to listen to Him, and even in spite of their fear, the end result was that "they saw only Jesus".
When the Chosen Ones experience seeing and knowing Jesus Christ in an earth-shattering, revealing way, no longer will we idolize the earthly, because we will have eyes for One only. No longer will we see churches, Halls, and temples as being something good for God and "good for us" but quite the opposite, for we will see God's intention and that He has only One in view: "I saw no temple in the city, for the Lord God Omnipotent and the Lamb Himself are its temple" (Rev. 21:22). This Temple (Christ) is not a physical building that we can see or go to, nor can He be constructed by us - it is ludicrous and presumptuous to think that we could do so! But that physical inclination in itself can present a challenge, stumbling block, and even provoke us to take offense at God's way.

The Temple - Made with Hands

Oh how we do love to do things and make things which we (and of course others) can see, hear and touch on this earth!
As Stephen said in his speech:
Our ancestors carried the Tabernacle with them through the wilderness. It was constructed according to the plan God had shown to Moses. Years later, when Joshua led our ancestors in battle against the nations that God drove out of this land, the Tabernacle was taken with them into their new territory. And it stayed there until the time of King David. David found favor with God and asked for the privilege of building a permanent Temple for the God of Jacob. But it was Solomon who actually built it. However, the Most High doesn’t live in temples made by human hands. As the prophet says, ‘Heaven is My throne, and the earth is My footstool. Could you build Me a temple as good as that?’ asks the Lord. ‘Could you build Me such a resting place? Didn’t My hands make both heaven and earth?’ You stubborn people! You are heathen at heart and deaf to the truth. Must you forever resist the Holy Spirit? That’s what your ancestors did, and so do you!" (Acts 7:44-51).

What was Stephen referring to that was 'heathen' and resisting the Holy Spirit? In the context of what he'd just been speaking about it seems to speak of one thing that all religions had in his day and still have today: temples. Or, in Christian terms: churches and Halls. The temple was a very sacred thing to the Jews (just as the Kingdom Hall is to many "Witnesses") and the significance of what Stephen said was not lost on the Jews. They were very angry with him for saying that God didn't need or want their "sacred" buildings and promptly killed him; thinking they were doing God a favor. And that is what is still often done today because the truth that God doesn't need or want these structures that we build, hits right at the very heart of idolatry.

But wasn't the temple God's idea in the first place?  
No, it was the tabernacle that God asked Moses to make, and the tabernacle was a tent and not a building. The tabernacle was in use right up until the time of King David and then it disappeared... David thought he had a better idea: a permanent building, a temple like other religions had. If you read the passage above again, you will see that it was David who asked to build the temple, and not God who asked for it. This fact is made even clearer in the Old Testament accounts, one given in 2 Samuel 7, the other in 1 Chronicles 17 (from the NKJV):

Now it came to pass, when David was dwelling in his house, that David said to Nathan the prophet, “See now, I dwell in a house of cedar, but the ark of the covenant of the Lord is under tent curtains.”

I had never realized until reading that verse that building the temple, was David's idea. God didn't ask David to build the temple, nor did He want him to (which He clearly tells David shortly thereafter). Apparently it didn't seem fair to David - from his earthly, human perspective - that he lived in a beautiful palace while the ark of the Lord was in a tent. That, of course, sounds very noble and good to us humans, and when he told the prophet Nathan about his idea, Nathan's response to David was:

Then Nathan said to David, “Do all that is in your heart, for God is with you.” (1Chron. 17:2)

One question needs to be asked here: had God been consulted? Had He said anything to either Nathan or David about a temple up to this point? Apparently Nathan thought the idea of building a temple sounded like a good idea too, so it appears that he presumptuously endorsed it on God's behalf although the following verses make it clear that he hadn't yet asked God what HE thought about the idea. Just because God is with us and has blessed us, doesn't mean we can go and "do all that is in your heart" - not even for the man who was said to be a man after God's own heart. And just because we see something that we think God needs us to do for Him, doesn't mean He needs or wants us to do it.

That very night God came to Nathan with a strong message:

"But it happened that night that the word of God came to Nathan, saying, “Go and tell My servant David, ‘Thus says the Lord: “You shall not build Me a house to dwell in. For I have not dwelt in a house since the time that I brought up Israel, even to this day, but have gone from tent to tent, and from one tabernacle to another. Wherever I have moved about with all Israel, have I ever spoken a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?' Now therefore, thus shall you say to My servant David, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts: “I took you from the sheepfold, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people Israel. And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies from before you, and have made you a name like the name of the great men who are on the earth. Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; nor shall the sons of wickedness oppress them anymore, as previously, since the time that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel. Also I will subdue all your enemies. Furthermore I tell you that the Lord will build you a house. And it shall be, when your days are fulfilled, when you must go to be with your fathers, that I will set up your seed after you, who will be of your sons; and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build Me a house, and I will establish his throne forever. I will be his Father, and he shall be My son; and I will not take My mercy away from him, as I took it from him who was before you. And I will establish him in My house and in My kingdom forever; and his throne shall be established forever.” ’ ”According to all these words and according to all this vision, so Nathan spoke to David." 
(1Chron. 17:3-15)
[This prophetically speaks of Jesus (Heb.1:5,8)....and was not totally fulfilled in Solomon (Matt.12:42)...who in the end of his life, proved unfaithful (1Kings 11:1-11). The eternal Temple/House, that Jesus was to build, was his chosen priesthood (1Cor. 3:9,16-17; Eph.2:20-21,22; John 2:21;  1Cor. 12:27;  1Pet. 2:5,9;  1Cor. 6:19-20).]

So God said the opposite of what Nathan had told David on His behalf; instead of God telling David to "do all that is in your heart" He told him through Nathan that he was NOT to build a temple. The tabernacle or tent is significant here because it was a temporary dwelling, entirely adjustable, and would move on easily. Whenever the pillar of fire moved in the wilderness, the tents were packed up and the people moved with God leading them on. 
But you cannot move a temple building; it is firmly attached to the earth. It is earthly. A temple's foundations are fixed on this earth and not in the heavens. God did not want to be stationary, He is a God Who moves. He resides in the hearts of the faithful, and when they die, he can move to His next prophet/judge/king/high priest. This is the point he made to David, in 1Chron. 17:5,7,11 above. God does not dwell in earthly temples of stone, but in faithful hearts. This is the proper place to worship God (John 4:21,23-24;  1Cor. 3:16; 6:19).
God went on to say,

"say to My servant David, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts: “I took you from the sheepfold, from following the sheep, to be ruler over My people Israel. And I have been with you wherever you have gone, and have cut off all your enemies from before you, and have made you a name like the name of the great men who are on the earth. Moreover I will appoint a place for My people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own and move no more; nor shall the sons of wickedness oppress them anymore, as previously, since the time that I commanded judges to be over My people Israel. Also I will subdue all your enemies." (Psalm 110:1;  1Cor. 15:25; Rom.16:20)

It sounds as though God was reminding David WHO was in charge and that He was quite capable of asking David or anyone else to build Him a temple if that had been what He had wanted. God was satisfied with the tabernacle/tent which God Himself designed (Heb.8:5), even though man might despise it for being so flexible and unpredictable (John 3:8).
He continued,

"Furthermore I tell you that the LORD will build you a house."

God's House - Made Without  Hands:

David appeared to have had things around the wrong way; instead of him building a house for God, God wanted to build him a house. (Heb.8:1-2; 9:11) 
But was this promise to David fulfilled, did God build David a house? No, not on this earth, and not in David's lifetime. We can now see that this promise was fulfilled in Christ, and that God was speaking of Him:
"Destroy this temple," Jesus answered, "and in three days I will build it again!" ...But Jesus was talking about His body as the temple. (John 2:19-21). And God had something far greater than Solomon's temple in mind: Christ, "Something greater and more majestic than the temple is here!" (Matt. 12:6). (see  part B "follow-up" )

God's message for David continued along these same spiritual lines:

"And it shall be, when your days are fulfilled, when you must go to be with your fathers, that I will set up your Seed after you, who will be of your sons; and I will establish His kingdom. He shall build Me a house, and I will establish His throne forever. I will be His Father, and He shall be My Son; and I will not take My mercy away from Him, as I took it from him who was before you. And I will establish Him in My house and in My kingdom forever; and His throne shall be established forever.”

Was this literally fulfilled? No, even though David thought God's words were about his son Solomon and it was partially fulfilled through Solomon. However, Solomon's throne was not established forever on this earth. The temple that Solomon built lasted in all its glory for a mere 34 years before being ravaged and spoiled, beginning a cycle of restoring the temple only to have it ravaged again and again, until it was eventually destroyed. God in His grace did inhabit that structure for a short time, but when He inevitably moved on, the temple could not move with Him and it was left behind; an empty shell for man to maintain. (Matt.23:37-38; 27:50-51) They would continue to hold their meetings and perform their rituals in it, but they would not meet God there, they would meet only each other (Hosea 5:6; Eze.14:3; John 9:31; Isa.59:2).

The temple had replaced the tabernacle, but Solomon's temple was to be replaced with a new Temple, which Ezekiel saw very clearly ( This House is God's creation and God's Way: Christ the cornerstone, the 12 foundation stones, and the 144,000 living stones of Christ's Priesthood (Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Pet. 2:5).
"When God speaks of a “new” covenant, it means He has made the first one obsolete. It is now out of date and will soon disappear..."  (Heb.8:13)
By these regulations the Holy Spirit revealed that the entrance to the Most Holy Place was not freely open as long as the Tabernacle and the system it represented were still in use. This is an illustration pointing to the present time... For that old system deals only with... physical regulations that were in effect only until the time of reformation and setting things straight."  (Heb. 8:13, 9:8-9,10).

Jesus said
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will build it again," meaning his own body (1Cor. 12:27; 3:16). But this was extremely offensive to those whose lives revolved around a physical building, just as it is offensive today to those whose lives revolve around the Organization and it's Kingdom Halls, because so much of this "temple mentality" continues today... AS IF God is inhabiting it and is pleased with it.

The tabernacle (and the Sanctuary of the temple) were simply a picture of what was to come. They were symbolic of Christ and his Chosen Ones, when sealed in Heaven (Rev.12:5; Eph.2:6; Gal.4:26; Col.2:17; Heb.8:5; Rev.14:1).

The outer courts of the temple were a busy and noisy place where animals were tethered, slaughtered and sacrificed on the altar. But the Sanctuary consisted of the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies. The Holy Place had very little activity compared with the outer courts; it was where the lampstand, the table of showbread and the altar of incense (all symbolic of Christ and his priesthood) were kept. The Holy of Holies was only entered into once a year and the priest did very little in it - a big contrast to the daily, busy activity of the outer courts of the temple.
John used two different words for "temple" in John chapter 2. The first two instances of the word "temple"  is hieron  and means the whole of the temple including its outer courts. But the word which is used three times at the end of the chapter (including the one Jesus used in reference to his "body") is a different word - "naos" - which means ONLY the Sanctuary itself, consisting of the Holy Place and the Holy of Holies. This area was reserved for the Priesthood. No others were permitted entrance. Under the NEW Covenant, only the sealed anointed priests become this part of the spiritual Temple.
Those unsealed remain outside the Naos, which is the area that was prophesied to be trespassed by the ruling Gentiles (Rev.11:2; Matt.24:15;  2Chron. 23:6; 13:9; Eze.44:6-7,8-9; Rev.13:7; 9:4). 
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Matthew and Mark confirm this as they used exactly the same words for what Jesus had said. All other writers in the New Testament also used this word "naos" in reference to the Body of Christ instead of "hieron" (Acts 7:48; 17:24;  1Cor. 3:16-17; 6:19;  2Cor. 6:16; Eph.2:21; Rev.3:12; 7:13,15; 21:22 to name a few). It is significant that our English word "hierarchy" is derived from the root of the word "hieron" meaning outer temple.

The secular Greek definition of this word "naos" or sanctuary, was "inmost part of a temple, containing the image of The God" and interestingly, "a portable shrine" - reminiscent of the tabernacle or tent of the Lord (Rev.21:3,2). This word is also used of anointed, as the 'temples' of the Holy Spirit in 1Cor. 3:16. There are no instances of the word "hieron" (the temple) being used in reference to Christ or His Body of Priests (1Pet. 2:9) in the New Testament at all. Instead the word meaning a "sanctuary" or "holy place" is used, but our English translations don't differentiate between the two!

In fact, there is only One chief Cornerstone, who fully satisfies God. And we share in God's pleasure and delight in His Son when we are in Him - when we are living stones being built into this House, which is the "Body" of Christ (Gal.3:29). These are the ones his blood justifies (Rev.5:9-10; 7:14 c).

As I said, it is one of our natural, human desires to want to do something for those whom we love, and this obviously includes doing things for God; we desire to please Him with what we do and with whatever we can make for Him. But what men make on earth, fades. Only what God makes, lasts. That is a very important distinction. (Psalm 127:1; Matt.6:20; Dan.2:44;  1Cor. 15:24; Luke 10:19; Rev.16:20; Dan.7:22). Only what men do, according to God's will, is stored in heaven. The rest is a "commerce" of futility (1John 2:17; Matt.6:20; John 6:27; Isa.55:2; Rev13:17).
If we unconsciously transfer what we intend to do for God, into doing it for a visible Organization; we have succumbed to the idolatry foretold in prophecy (Rev.13:16,8; Rom.1:25), and have "stored our treasures" on earth (Matt.6:19; Isa.50:9; Job 13:28; James 5:3; Eze.24:6,11-12,13; Luke 12:39).

Kings and Kingdoms

I think it is beyond refute that it was never God's intention for us to have buildings or temples on this earth in which to worship Him like the religions of this world who have temples for their gods. Most of us are aware of the fact that the Israelites having a king was not God's idea either (1Sam. 8:4-5,6-7). Their reason for wanting a king was so that they would "be like all the other nations" and have a king who would lead them and defend them (1Sam. 8:19-20).
Early Christians gathered in homes and at "love feasts". These groups met in the homes of their fellow local members (Rom.16:3,5;  1Cor. 1:11; 16:19; Col.4:15; Phm.1:2). You may notice that in the original Greek of Acts 20:20 it literally reads, "according to private houses". You will note that this verse does not say "door to door".

 Although the Organization interprets this as meaning a public door-to-door witnessing to strangers, the context of Acts 20:20 (as well as the scriptures I already gave you) proves otherwise. Those whom Paul is speaking to (about teaching them "house to house"), are the same ones he is speaking to in Acts 20:18-19,20,28,34,36-37,38 and are those whom Paul knew well.
The "houses" where Paul went to teach, were Christian meeting places...Congregations...not the doorsteps of the public. They did not have church buildings or "Kingdom Halls" in the first Century. Congregations met in private homes.

For those who were not yet associated with one of these groups, they could choose to listen when Paul and others taught "publicly" in market places, synagogues, etc.
others would be directed to the "Living Stones" of the Holy Priesthood/God's Temple (Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Pet. 2:5,9) directly by Holy Spirit (Acts 10:47-48) or the anointed would be sent by spirit to those of complete heart (2Chron. 16:9; Acts 8:26,29; Acts 9:6,10-11).

To get back to having an Organization replete with official buildings and holdings, and the Leadership that inevitably presides above it....
God warned the Israelites that the result of their demanding a king would be that they would be in bondage and subjection to their king, and that he would use and abuse them (Rev.13:12,14-15,16-17,8,7,4).

God told Samuel to say to the people,
"If you have a king, this is how he will treat you. He will force your sons to join his army. Some of them will ride in his chariots, some will serve in the cavalry, and others will run ahead of his own chariot. Some of them will be officers in charge of a thousand soldiers, and others will be in charge of fifty. Still others will have to farm the king's land and harvest his crops, or make weapons and parts for his chariots. Your daughters will have to make perfume or do his cooking and baking. The king will take your best fields, as well as your vineyards, and olive orchards and give them to his own officials. He will also take a tenth of your grain and grapes and give it to his officers and officials (the tithe).  The king will take your slaves and your best young men and your donkeys and make them do his work. He will also take a tenth of your sheep and goats. You will become the king's slaves." (1Sam. 8:9-17; Isa.28:10).

All of this is so clearly evident in Satan's religious systems today (1Cor.11:3-4,13-14,15)... where there is loyalty to the system, to the buildings, to the meetings and to the religious leaders... instead of loyalty to Yhvh God (Rom.1:25).
God took this desire of the people to have a king of flesh, very personally. He viewed the people as rejecting Him as their King (1Sam. 8:7). In the interests of His own people; He preferred to be their only King... just as He wants the True Tent to be our only Meeting Place (John 4:21,23-24; Heb.8:1-2).

Today the majority of Christians are no different than the Israelites who wanted a temple and a king, just as Stephen said in his speech. We have built "temples" and we have wanted "kings" to look up to and to tell us what to do and what not to do, what to read and what not to read, what to believe and what not to believe, where to go and where not to go, what to wear and not to wear  - the list is endless (Isa.28:10; Matt.23:23-24; Rev.13:17). 
The result of all these kings and temples, are countless religious kingdoms which are sustained by man and not God, and which abuse and exploit people (Ec.8:9; Jer.10:23;  1Cor. 4:6; Mark 10:42-43).

Jesus gave us the example of true leadership by being a servant, and running away when the people wanted to make Him their King (John 6:15; Matt.4:8-9,10). The Kingdom of God is NOT of this world: "My kingdom," said Jesus, "doesn't consist of what you see around you. If it did, My followers would fight so that I wouldn't be handed over to the Jews. But I'm not that kind of king, not the world's kind of king." (John 18:36;  1Cor. 15:50; Heb.13:14; 11:10).

We each need to honestly answer the question: "Who is king in my life?" A kingdom is a place where the king governs and decides everything.
Rather than understand that God's reign should be in our obedient heart where God's laws should be written (Heb.10:16; Luke 17:21NKJV)..... God's Kingdom was understood to be in a Hall, and in the organization that authorized it.
"Kingdom Halls" reveal our inherent desire to do something for God (Matt.7:22), as well as the desire for religious leaders to tell us what to do and how to do it.. revealing our inherent desire to have a king here on earth to govern us. 

But a king, a temple, a church, or a kingdom hall, are focusing upon what is seen here on earth rather than spiritually perceiving what is unseen (2Cor. 4:18; Rev.13:4). They are substitutes for the Real and the True and we often idolize them - allowing them to become the center of our lives, instead of Christ and his genuine Temple members (1Pet.2:5). Whatever we obey and serve, we idolize. Whatever we idolize, we worship (Rom.6:16; Col.3:24). This effectively blinds us from seeing Truth because our eyes are on the approval of our idol, so we can see nothing past that (2Thess. 2:4,9-10,11; Rev.13:8,4). We need to be shaken out of our idolatry by hearing God's words deep in our hearts: "THIS is My dearly loved Son, who brings Me great joy; listen to HIM!" 
May God continue to shatter our idols and open our eyes so that we will see and obey, only Jesus (Matt.7:24-25; Matt.28:19-20). His true ambassadors, are no part of this world...nor it's hierarchy, riches, or dominion (2Cor. 5:20; John 17:16; Mark 10:42-43;  Matt.23:8,12;  1John 2:15-16,17;  1Cor. 4:8,7;  2Thess. 2:4,3).
(Deut.11:18; Rev.13:16)>(See: https://mark-of-beast.html)

"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands." (Acts 17:24)

"Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation." Heb. 9:11

" also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood" (1Pet. 2:5)

"Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?" (1Cor. 3:16)

"For Abraham was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God." (Heb.11:10)

"a minister of the sanctuary and the true tabernacle that was set up by the Lord and not man." (Heb.8:1-2)

(This comment of mine is in response to a question objecting the worship of Christ)
If by Matt.6:10, you believe that Jesus is not to receive any worship,
but only Yhvh is, ...then I understand your question.

Jesus is his Father's representative. By this statement of mine,
I highlight men's inclination to follow and obey what they can see (Rev.13:8).
This improper worship was prophesied for our time. The leadership and authority given to
and taken by the "man of lawlessness" [who rules over the Chosen ones (2Thess. 2:4;  1Cor. 3:16; Eph.2:22)],
replaces the worship and subjection which is due Christ,
as the Head of his wife/body/Congregation. [(Phil.2:10; Rom.14:8-9,11 (John 5:22)]

Regarding those we should worship......
Rev.5:12-13,14; Heb.1:6; Matt.28:9,17; John 9:38; 5:23
The Greek word for worship that is used in all the above verses is proskuneo. Obviously, the NKJV chose to translate this word as worship. The New World Translation (NWT), however, chose to translate this word as obeisance (honor, respect) in all the above verses. What becomes interesting about the NWT, is that whenever the same Greek word, proskuneo, is used in relation to the Father, the translators translated it as worship, even though they rendered it differently in relation to Jesus. (This can be verified by looking in the Watchtower’s own Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.) Is this a double standard? Is the NWT justified in translating this word 2 different ways; as obeisance to Jesus and as worship to the Father?

Yet, while we give worship to God's installed King, we are given balance in understanding that Jesus is not equal to his Father.
This does not mean that he is not due any worship.
Our balance is clarified, at
1Cor. 15:27-28:
"For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all."

This does not infer that Jesus does not receive worship....but it does make clear that it is a relative worship in comparison to what is due our Heavenly Father.

This might be illustrated with a family.
Suppose a mother sees to it (and enforces), that all in the household obey the Father.
This does NOT mean that the mother is obeyed INSTEAD of the Father, but rather,
that the mother is obeyed, because of the Father.
If the mother is disobeyed, the Father is also.
If the Father is obeyed, the mother is also.
This is how "worship" is given, both the Father and the Son, because of the Father,
and the position and authority He Himself, has given to His Son 
(Psalm.2:8; Phil.2:9,10; John 14:6; 5:22,23

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  1. Hi Pearl, hope you are well with Jah's blessings.

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    1. I have been there a number of times.
      All of us...especially anointed ones...are keenly interested in any current efforts we find,
      to gather the Chosen. The reason for this, is that it is due, according to prophecy.
      I was quite disappointed in that site, because not only is its lack of Holy Spirit palpable...
      and the resulting insight spirit provides (1John2:20,27) totally missing;
      it smacks of demon inspired lies (Rev.16:13,14,15),
      specifically and insidiously disguised, to net the anointed just waking order to
      direct them back into the chains they just were released from (Rev.9:14).
      They discourage performing what God requires of us now...that is...our sacrificing our lives for truth (Mark8:35) which occurs when we no longer "tolerate" and silently condone the lies (Ps.26:4; Rev.2:20; 2Cor.6:17; Rev.18:4; Matt.10:32; 24:15,16) knowing fully well that they result in death to those around us (Eze.33:6; 1Cor.9:16; 2Tim.4:2; 1Tim.4:16; Acts3:19; 17:30; 2Cor.5:20; Luke13:5; Rev.2:16).
      The website also espouses that the Hebrew text is not significant for Christians. They dare to assume the authority to nullify scripture! (2Tim.3:16,17; Matt.4:4; John17:17; 2Pet.1:19) In fact, the interpretation of Christ's Revelation to his brothers, is impossible to decipher without the Hebrew scriptures!
      If they had any understanding of that scroll (which is due to be opened now -Dan.12:4; Rev.22:10), they would know this. All it's symbols find their interpretation, in the Word of God (Gen.40:8; 2Pet.1:20,21).
      In actually, I suspect that the Society may be behind the existence of that website....
      to offer another libation to those just sobering up.
      There is no limit to Satan's treachery against the remnant (Rev.12:17).
      If you closely examine it's subtle suggestions, they push readers into passivity, silence, and cooperation with the Beast/Organization.
      If they are not a sprout of the Organizational root,
      then I tell you....
      They express their objective as a reformation of the Organization.
      They espouse the removal of the governing bdy.
      Do you see the emergence of the "ten kings" who ally themselves with the Wild Beast Organization....
      to remove the ruling "Harlot"? (Rev.17:12,13,16,17)
      Any anointed who assume authority within the Organization of "Jehovah's witnesses" are headed for the "lake of fire",
      regardless of how noble they believe their intentions to be. These ones still put faith in a Gentile priesthood, which is a "disgusting thing" in God's mind, and an idolatrous abomination among his holy place. (Luke16:15; Eze.8:5; Matt.24:15.16)
      We do not attempt to reform the Wild will never be tamed to obey God's Word in humility and love.
      We do not attempt to gain mastery over it, exploiting it's power, rather than looking to God as our strength.
      We are excited to see prophecy being fulfilled. But in the blessing of spiritual perception, we are made wise to avoid the dark path of the blind,
      as they perform just what God foretold. (2Tim.3:5)

  2. Hi,
    I've sent this to them:

    And I see that they still stick with the Org. may change:

    "Dear Brother Paolo,
    No, we are not disfellowshiped nor have we disassociated ourselves. We choose not to publish our names in a public forum, because we want our readers to focus on the message rather than the messengers. But the elders in our congregation know who we are. So far, they have not attempted any disciplinary action against us and have only had positive things to say. As Jesus counseled, we are ‘cautious as serpents, yet innocent as doves.’ However, we suspect through the unfolding of events, our names will become known through no efforts of our own. When that occurs, we will handle that as the spirit indicates. "

  3. This makes me even more suspicious,
    because it clearly rings as untrue.
    All the elders have recently finished a "Training School", that has staunchly indoctrinated them to
    "close ranks with the Gov. Bdy,"...commanding them to find all that are not feeding exclusively from the pages of current publications (only what is published "officially" by the Organization), and force them to conform. If they do not, they are to be briskly expelled.
    There are so many true-life experiences being published on line now, as regards the brutality that the flock is experiencing....due to these new policies being instilled in and executed by elders.
    Consequently, I see the statement...
    "So far, they have not attempted any disciplinary action against us and have only had positive things to say."
    as laughable!....
    If it were not so misleading. I clearly see it as a strategy at damage control.
    They think they can discount reality by promoting this lie. It does not dispel all the unjust brutality occurring in Congregations around the world to those who are concerned about the tyranny and false doctrines. By stating that their experience is in contrast to the reality, makes them liars.
    The last statement...
    .....However, we suspect through the unfolding of events, our names will become known through no efforts of our own. When that occurs, we will handle that as the spirit indicates. "..........
    makes absolutely no sense at all.
    What unfolding of events? Why will their "names become known"? What "efforts"? And who would strive to make their names known? For what purpose? What does any of that have to do with Holy Spirit?
    Holy Spirit has no interest in their names, nor how to handle their anticipated glory for them.

    All this vague, unscriptural hedging...along with blatant falsehood and false humility,
    confirms my first taste of demonic activity.
    They say that they want readers to "focus on the message". The message is their own...not God's.

    Believe me....if what they say is at all true.....that the Elders are backing this "independent" feeding program....
    Rest assured that it is sourced with the Organization, camouflaged as a beacon for the dissatisfied.
    They have no shame, and will obviously do anything to try and stop the crumbling of their waning power.

  4. Hi Pearl,
    In the third paragraph of this article you wrote "...and end up worshiping them instead of the Son of God". I suspect this was a mistype? (Matt 6:10). If not please expound.


    1. Here is an article I wrote to answer you:

      It is called, "Worship Christ?" and I posted a link to it at the very end of the article above.


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