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Thursday, July 4, 2013

Teach the Distinction!

Rev.4:2,4,5,6...
  "Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. 3 And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. 4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. 5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.
6 Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back."

See Rev.4:5
"5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God."
and Rev.5:6
"6 And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Do you remember what the symbol of "horn" means? (see Rev.17:12)
Does Jesus himself have "horns"/kings? (Rev.5:6; 1:5)
Can you see that each "horn"(king) has an "eye" (spirit of knowledge) and a "lamp" (spiritual light) of "fire" (God's word of truth -Jer.23:29; 5:14; which demands exclusive devotion -Deut.4:24)?. 
Both the lamp and eye are the same thing (Rev.4:5; 5:6; Matt.6:22)...which lamp is the spirit of God within one's perception (eye). 
In the time of the end, each of the last sealed kings/horns/stars/angels, is given an eye (a "seventh" of God's spirit), and together the seven "kings" have complete spirit to "see"/understand the mysteries of God; including the opening of the seven seals of Revelation (the marriage feast) (Prov.9:1; Rev.3:12). 
("seven" is symbolic)
All physically alive at the time of this revelation, will be judged based upon the revealed content of that scroll (lamps) as well as the other opened "scrolls"; and the treatment given those who bear that message. Those judged by these revelations will either be written in the Lamb's scroll of life, or not. (Rev.20:12; Matt.25:45,46; John 13:20). 

I am hoping that you are able to perceive that in heaven, the voice of God (lightenings and thunders, mediated through Christ and then through his apostles and prophets --Rev.4:5; Matt.24:27; Eph.4:7,8,11,12,14; 2:20; Matt.16:18;  1Cor. 3:10; 12:28; 14:32; Eph.3:5; Rev.11:3; Num.12:6) teaches His sealed anointed sons/priests, so that they can, in turn, teach all the Lord's sheep (Mal.2:5,6,7; Rev.14:5; John 21:17;  1Cor. 4:1;  1Tim. 4:16). What are the two most important things the priesthood must teach those who wish to worship God acceptably?

The first job of priest is to praise God (Isa.43:21;  1Pet. 2:9; Heb.13:15; Rev.7:10,12; Matt.6:9) so that all sheep may know and revere God accurately.

The final unfaithful ruling anointed (Rev.13:11; Luke 12:42,45; Micah 3:9; Rev.8:10,11) take the praise due YHWH, and give it to a Non-anointed Organizational Idol under their control (Eze.44:10,8,13; Rev.9:1,3; 13:14;  2Thess. 2:4) (made up of non-anointed, who are considered spiritual Gentiles, having hearts uncircumcised by God's spirit as anointed have --Rom.2:28,29).
The fallen anointed leaders, demand that all of God's anointed priesthood give praise to this so-called "spirit directed" Gentile Organization (Non-anointed Overseers and Elders), under the threat of a spiritual death to those who refuse (Rev 13:15,7). These leaders claim to be the only servants of truth, and that any priest who reads the direct words of Christ and is guided by Holy Spirit, will be mislead (Zeph.3:4; Isa.47:8; Rev.18:7) (Rev.6:6; 13:17) ["Olive oil (Holy Spirit) and "wine" (true teachings from the true vine -John 15:5) are forbidden! These fallen leaders hold a monopoly on spiritual provisions (Rev.13:17; 3:18), and "sell" them at the cost of your loyalty to God!). In teaching that they are the only means to truth, they declare Christ a liar 
(Rev.3:18; Matt.11:29; John 16:24;  1Tim. 2:5; John 14:6; 16:15; Luke 11:13; Matt.7:7; 21:22;  1John 3:22; 2:20,21,22). 
By targeting and restraining Christ's authentic prophets, they are doing Satan's will 
(Matt.5:11,12; Isa.66:5; Luke 12:45; Ps.38:20; Matt.10:22; John 16:2; John 8:44). 
Those called and chosen anointed who are deceived by this false prophet (Matt.24:4,5,24,25; 7:15; Rev.13:7,11; 12:15) and that conform to his demand to praise the Idol/Image 
       (The so-called, "spirit-directed" Organization -Rev.13:15 A), 
honor men and not God 
(Hosea 7:11,9; 8:12; 5:4; 4:14; Mal.1:6; Rom.1:25).  
They reject divine knowledge (Hosea 4:6; Rev.2:23;  2Thess. 2:9,10,11,12)
it's chosen vessels (Luke 10:16;  2Cor. 2:16; 4:7;  1Cor. 4:1; Matt.25:45,46), 
and the Source of all light (Rev.14:7; James 1:17; Ps.36:9).  God thus rejects them. 
(Hosea 4:6;  2Pet. 3:17;  1Cor. 10:12; Rev.8:10; 18:2). 

Who is the wicked steward and all those who follow him, really serving?  Is it really who they claim? (Zech.7:5) Titles such as "pioneer" and "governing body" are not from God's Word, nor are the definition or expectations of such positions 
    (GB- Mark 10:42,43; Matt.23:10; Gal.1:15,16,17,10; Luke 17:10) 
    (Pio.- Mark 12:43,44; Matt.6:3,4; Gal.6:4; Prov.16:18). 
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These titles are merely a form of spiritual currency, instituted by this blasphemous organization. One receives them at the cost of Organizational devotion, subjection, and obedience [Luke 4:8; Matt.10:8; Acts 8:20,21,22,23 (2Thess. 2:3); John 5:44,41; 12:43;  1Thess. 2:6; Rom.2:29;  2Cor. 2:17). 
Definition of Simony:
"the buying or selling of a church office or ecclesiastical preferment" (Rev.13:17) 

The cost for such positions does not have to be literal money (Rev.3:18; Matt.13:45,46). 
The book of Revelation is symbolic, as is the "buying and selling" it portrays.
Buying and Selling

While establishing such a spiritual commerce, they rebel against the God they claim to serve 
(1Cor. 4:6; James 2:4; Acts 8:20; John 2:14,15,16; Rev.18:3,23). 
They have put a price on "righteousness" and spiritual provisions (Rev.6:6; 13:17). They have set up an Idol for themselves (Rev.2:20; 13:12,14,8;  2Thess. 2:4), and have "thrown truth to the ground" (Eze.8:5,6; 43:10; Dan.8:12;  Isa.59:13,14,15;  Jer.7:28).

These leaders are directing their Gentile minions to paralyze (Rev.9:5,10) or throw out, the very priests that God had chosen. The leaders have made an army of uncircumcised Gentile counterfeit priests, for the sake of their own power and praise....not for God's power and praise! These false priests are used to enforce obedience to the wicked steward...not obedience to God! These spiritual Gentiles are installed in the midst of God's own Temple of Chosen priests/anointed ones (2Thess. 2:4;  1Cor. 3:16,17). They are "the disgusting thing, standing in a Holy Place" AND "the abomination that causes desolation". Daily sacrifices are being stopped due to stripping God's priests of their duties, and by throwing out any loyal to God 
(2Chron. 13:9; Eze.44:6,7,8,9; Dan.12:11; 8:11; 9:27; 11:31) (2Thess. 2:4) (Mark 13:14; Matt.24:15). The Temple has been given to the Gentiles, and they are trampling the holy city underfoot (Rev.11:2;  2Thess. 2:4). 
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"Israel" has been deceived and mislead (Rev.2:2,9,14,20,21), has abandoned it's true Lord and Master, and it's members have abandoned their calling (1Pet. 2:9; Rev.14:4,5). "Israel's" household leaders persecute and "kill" any righteous ones who wake up, repent, and act in faithfulness to God. 
(Isa.5:7; Isa.1:21; Ps.94:21; Ex.23:7; Hab.1:4; Amos 6:12; Deut.32:32)  
Compare these scriptures in Revelation: 
(Rev.11:7; 13:6,7,8,11,12,14,15; Rev.14:18,19).

"Great", is Satan's final deception...as he finds an ally in the anointed wicked steward (false prophet) to aid him in deceiving the remnant! (Rev.9:1; 12:17; 13:11; 2:2,14,20,21; Matt.24:49; Prov.31:5; 17:26; Matt.24:24,25) along with everyone in their company.
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A "Great Tribulation" indeed!
Armed with all the powerful signs and portents at Satan's disposal (key to abyss -Rev.9:1), this false prophet even appears to render God's own judgments (Rev.13:13,14,15; 11:7) (Fire-from-heaven)

The second job of priest, is to teach all worshipers the distinction between what is clean, and what is defiled (Eze.44:23; Jer.23:22; Haggai 2:11,12; Mal.2:7).
The unfaithful priests not only fail to teach the people the difference between the sacred and the common (Eze.22:26; Zeph.3:4)
...they also call the unclean, sacred; and the sanctified, they pollute and destroy...including YHWH's own Temple! 
(Micah 3:9; Isa.5:20;  1Cor. 3:17; Eze.23:38; 5:11; 22:8).


In the time of the end, both failures merge; because it is the lost boundary between sacred priest 
   (Rom.2:29; Titus 2:14;  1Pet. 2:10,9) and Gentile (Eze.44:9,7; Mark 13:14; Rev.11:2), 
which allows the entrance of the counterfeit Gentile priesthood of elders into the sanctuary to serve as priests. 
These Gentiles comprise a vile Organizational Beast given false divinity (Rev.13:15; 9:2,3,7).... a false god... a collective of unclean counterfeit "priests" raised up within and over God's anointed household. The Image of the Beast has been fashioned into an "Image" which the anointed must obey, slave for, submit to, and worship 
[2Chron. 13:9; Prov.17:16; Ec.10:7;  1Cor. 6:1,2,3; --("Lord's people"/"holy ones"-Dan.7:22 are not elders); Rev.13:14,15,8].

A "disgusting/detestable thing"..."standing in a holy place". (Mal.2:11; Ps.24:3)
An "abomination"..."causing desolation" (Eze.44:6; 25:3; Matt.23:38; Joel 1:13) to God's chosen sons, and all those who are supposed to be under their care (John 21:17;  1Tim. 4:16; John 13:20; Matt.10:41; Luke 10:16).


The seven spirits of God are roaming about in the earth 
(Rev.5:6;  2Chron. 16:9; Amos 7:7,8; Isa.28:17; Lam.2:8; Nehemiah 4:2).
"Indeed, who despises the day of small things? For these seven shall rejoice, and shall see the plumb line/capstone, in the hand of Zerubbabel. These are the eyes of Yahweh, which run back and forth through the whole earth." Zech.4:10 
(Zech.2:1; 4:9,14; Rev.11:4,3)
(Eze.40:3,20; Rev.11:1,2; 21:15)



Those seven spirits are within the seven horns (with seven eyes and seven lamps -Rev.4:5; 5:6).
They decry for truth and justice for God's household held captive (Hosea 8:1; Rev.8:2,6; Joshua 6:13,4,16,20; Eze.13:11,12).

Who will hear what it says to the seven Congregations?
Rev.2:29; 10:11;
Eze.13:10,11,12,13 (Matt.7:27) Eze.13:14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23; 
Rev.18:23,4; Jer.23:17;  1Thess. 5:3

Isa.41:13,14,15; Zech.4:7; Ps.22:6; 46:5; 78:35; Jer.31:11; Isa.44:22; Amos 7:2; Neh.4:1,2,10,19; 6:15,16; Zech.4:6,10,9; Isa.48:16; 49:5,6,8; Isa.49:24,25,26; 51:14; 52:1,2,3

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Monday, June 16, 2014

The "Garden of Eden" / New Creation / Seven Spirits / Tree of Life / The True Vine

QUESTIONS:

Good morning sister D
Thank you for your loving response and help. Whenever I read your emails I wish we could be talking face to face over a cup of rooibos (south african tea).  You always seem to have the right answers whenever I am faced with difficulties.
Last week I was having a chat with a friend at work about the trees in Eden and ever since I have been thinking about it. A while back we briefly spoke about what the trees symbolized.  If I still remember correctly you said the tree of life symbolizes Jesus and the other one Satan.
1. Why did Adam and Eve only realize that they were naked after they had eaten?
2. In what way did they hear the voice of God walking (Gen 3:8) if the voice/"Word" is Jesus?
3. "JW's" teach that it took years for Eve to persuade her husband to eat. Why is it that God did not punish Eve for eating the forbidden fruit right away?
4. If the tree of life is Jesus, why did God post angels around the tree?
5 I have heard that the trees disappeared or were destroyed by the flood, is that true?
I do realize that this a handful of questions amid all the work you have already.
Many thanks
Modise
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MY REPLY:

1. Why did Adam and Eve only realize that they were naked after they had eaten?

Hello Modise,
I think I answered your first question in the "Two Trees" link.

Here is some thoughts from there:

All those who represent a teaching authority,
are represented in the Bible as trees.
(Matt.12:33,34; 7:17,20; Rev.2:7; 3:20; 22:2; Psalm 1:3; Jer.17:8; Isa.65:22; Zech.4:3,14)
The anointed who receive the kingdom,
and channel God's life-giving waters through their "fruit" and "leaves",
are even called trees of life,
just as the original Tree of Life was called.
Their mouth will produce fruit according to the abundance of their own heart.
(Luke 6:45; Matt.12:33-37; 7:20; Heb.13:15; John 1:1,4; 8:12; 12:46; Prov.11:30; 10:11; 3:13,18; Eph.5:8-9,10-11,12)
    Also remember, that when Adam and Eve wanted to hide their sin from God,
what did they do?
They covered their private parts. (Gen.3:7,10,11)
Do you remember what the desire was,
of the spirits who left heaven? (Gen.6:1,2)
Can you consider the possible reason why Satan wanted to guide Eve (not Adam) into sin?
Yet to do so, he first had to offer Eve symbolic "fruit"...
  teachings that mislead, and went contrary to God's instruction through the "Word".

To a innocent child... their private parts seem to be the same as any other part (eye, nose, ear, elbow, genitals),
other than their ability to produce waste. Adam and Eve felt no reason to cover their genitals, any more than they thought it necessary to cover their elbows. Yet after sinning, they felt shame in connection with the body part that was used to sin. It was their genitals which were involved in defying God's command, not to let their actions be guided by the Tree of knowledge. We have a natural reasoning, that our crimes are discovered in connection with the tool used to sin.  Adam and Eve obviously thought that if God could not see their parts marred by sin, He would not see their sin, and their transgression involving the forbidden tree.
Let me illustrate.
If a murderer used a particular weapon to kill, which weapon he would try to hide afterward?
What reason would he have to hide a different weapon? 
    Adam and Eve had no shame previous to their sin (Gen.2:25). Hence there was no need to hide their genitals.
It was only after they acquired "the knowledge of good and bad" (by a comparison between them which they had never grasped before),
that they felt guilty about their genitals, and tried to hide them from God.
They used their genitals in a corrupt way, which was not according to God's perfect and healthful design.
(Gen.2:23,24,25; Eph.5:3,5,6,12,25,26,27,28;  2Cor.11:2,3,4)  (Rom.1:26,24; Col.3:5;  1John 2:16)
I hope this explains the answer to your first question.
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2. In what way did they hear the voice of God walking (Gen 3:8) if the voice/word is Jesus?

Regarding Gen.3:8, and God "walking" in the midst of where Adam and Eve were, and that this is associated with the voice of the "Word"...
Please read Lev.26:12 and Deut.23:14.
There you will see that God, through His seven spirits (and "seven eyes"), can focus on a particular area of the earth 
(Gen.1:2;  2Chron.16:9; Job 24:23; Prov.15:3; Jer.16:17; Zech.3:9; 4:10), 
...through His messengers which He sends (consider Gen.18:2,17,20,21,22) (** Gen.18:27).
Can you see that Abraham called God's materialized angel messenger, "Yhwh"/"the Lord"?**
This was not actually God (Ex.33:20; John 1:18), but His representative. 
Dealing with God's representatives, is the same as dealing with God 
(John 12:45,49; 14:9,10) (Rev.21:3; Eph.2:22;  2Cor.6:16; Matt.10:20; 18:18). 
We will see why...
Can you see that God "examined" the situation in Sodom and Gomorrah through His representative? God's justice expects actual witnesses to testify before He executes His condemnation. Yet any who are sent, contain within them, God's spirit...
who "sees" and "speaks" through them, just as today (Matt.10:20;  1Cor.6:17,19). This was especially so through the Word...since that was his designation and assignment. In fact, we are directly told that Jesus Christ/The Word, is so unified with His father (John 10:30; 17:21) that he is depicted as possessing entirely, those "seven eyes/seven spirits" of God.
Rev.5:6 reads:
"Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth."

Can you see that God's spirit is fully represented by, and dwells within the "Word", Christ (Col.2:9; John 10:30; 17:21)?
When he is in the earth, so is the spirit of God; And so is God's presence with man (1John 1:5; Ps.36:9; John 1:1,4,9,14,18).
Think about one of Jesus' names....
Matt.1:23:
"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" (which means "God with us")." (See also Isa.7:14)
This is also the case with the "144000" (See Matt.5:14; Rev.21:2,3,22; 22:3;  1Cor.3:16).
In fact, the words "tabernacle" and "tent" mean...to occupy and be present within. 

At first, that presence (light) was only with mankind, through the Word/Lamb/Tree of life (John 9:5; 8:12; 12:46). But now (and since the first century) God is present with mankind, through His temple. (John 1:1,14,4; 6:63,68; Rev.5:6;  2Cor.3:6) which Christ founded with his death 
(John 2:19,21;  1Cor.12:27;  1Pet.2:4,5; Eph.2:20,21,22). 

Jesus promised to give those who faithfully conquer, three provisions for life: (Rev.2:7,17,28). 
Did you see what they are? 
1. "hidden manna" 2. "the morning star" 3. "the right to eat from the tree of life".
He also tells us, that he himself, is the "morning star" and the "hidden manna":
(Rev.22:16; John 6:48,49,50,31,51,63) 
("hidden"-- Mark 8:29,30; John 14:21,22; 6:51,65; Matt.13:11; Col.2:2,3; Isa.29:11; Dan.12:10)
(Rev.3:20; John 14:23; 11:25,26).
Can you see from the previous scriptures, that the "hidden manna", and the "morning star" (given to the faithful conquerors) IS JESUS CHRIST? (John 14:21)
Regarding the promise to also be given "the right to eat from the tree of life"(John 6:57; Rev.2:7; 22:14)...
Remember....the fruit of a tree is it's sayings from it's heart (Matt.12:33,37,35; 15:18) (Matt.7:15,16,17,18,19,20) (Luke 6:45; Prov.16:23).
("Two Trees")
             Note Matt.7:15, the word "inwardly"; meaning, in their heart,
             they have "thornbushes" and "thistles" (Matt.7:16). What are thornbushes
             and thistles, if not "weeds"? These have not accepted and 
             cultivated the Word in their hearts, and are therefore, not wheat.
             They therefore, cannot offer "fine fruit" to their hearers (Matt.7:16).
             (Matt.13:30; James 1:21; Luke 8:15)

The "Word" of God is the "word of life" (Phil.2:16; John 5:24; 6:51,63,68)
Jesus's sayings ("fruit"), are eternal life to those who accept and keep them (John 6:57,63; Prov.4:13; Matt.7:24; John 5:21). He is the source of eternal life, through the "fruit" (words/teachings/sayings/light) that he offers to those whom the Father draws to Christ (John 6:65; 17:3,8; 16:15; 3:16; 1:4,14,17; 18:9; 10:27-28;  2John 1:2-3;  1John 1:1-3,7).
Jesus Christ is God's messenger of life...and his fruitful words mean everlasting life to those who take them in. He is, the "Word" of God...the messenger of life, light, and truth, and the Tree of Life (Heb.1:1,2,3; John 6:57). I hope that you can see that the scriptures do indicate this.

Christ's spirit (in union with, possessing, and embodying God's seven spirits), is distributed, and poured into the hearts of those anointed with it...
 (2Cor.5:5; Eph.1:14; Rom.8:16;  2Cor.1:21,22;  1John 2:8,20,24,25;  1Thess.5:5; Rev.1:16), 
...thereby making them one with God and Christ (John 17:21;  1Cor.6:17). 
(Matt.5:14,15,16; John 14:17; 15:8;  1Cor.6:19) 
They are then to imitate Christ, offering light/life, as God's messenger angels 
(Rev.2:1; 3:1; 1:20; 8:6; Josh.6:8; Mal.2:7; Rev.5:10). 
For those final sealed prophets/two witnesses/"capstone" of the "Temple"; this includes possessing the seven spirits of God, sent out into all the earth (for the final harvest/examination and judgment by God's eyes  --John 12:48; Rev.20:11,12; 17:14; Dan.7:21,22).
(Rev.4:4,5,8; Matt.24:31; Zech.4:8,9,10; Matt.13:41; Rev.14:15,16,17,18,19; Deut.32:32)

Jesus is the true "vine"...those anointed in union with him, are the "branches" (John 15:4,5). 
What they receive from Jesus (the "nourishing sap" -Rom.11:17; Rev.22:16), is holy spirit (Rom.5:5). 
The branches are to express that spirit (Luke 6:45), as God (the "vine's cultivator -John 15:1) has determined and distributed 
(1Cor.12:4,11,18,28; 7:7; Eph.4:7; Heb.2:4).
Those branches are then expected to produce fruit (John 15:2,6; Matt.7:19; Gal.5:22,25; Eph.4:29,12,16; Luke 6:45,44)...which include sayings of life... fruit which is filled with that living water/holy spirit sourced in Christ, the true vine (Rev.22:17). Those who eat the fruit of the true vine and it's true branches, will live!
This is why, not only is Christ the Tree of Life,
his 144000 also are (Rev.22:1,2; John 13:20).

So when God's spirit is sent out into the earth (in order to examine hearts, give understanding, provide life, judge, etc.), it is channeled through the person of Jesus Christ. He is the mediator between God and man (including Adam) (1Tim.2:5,6,4), even back in Eden (John 1:1,2,3,4,18) (Gen.3:8).

The seven spirits which Christ sends into the earth, he sends by means of the seven stars/angels/lamps (Rev.1:16,20; 8:6; 1:12,20; 4:5; Ex.25:37; 40:25; Num.8:2; Zech.4:2,3,4,5,10,14; Rev.11:3,4; Rev.10:7; 22:16,6....Christ's own messenger ambassadors, substituting for him (2Cor.5:20). 
This is because the sealed anointed are one with God's spirit, as Jesus is (John 17:21,22,23;  1Cor.3:16; Rev.1:4,16,20; 2:1; 3:1; 4:5; 5:6; Isa.11:2; Col.2:3) (Eph.1:17; Luke 21:15;  1Cor.1:30,24; 2:16;  1John 4:13).

So can you see, that when Adam and Eve heard the voice of God in the midst of the Garden,
as His "eyes/spirit" sought to examine Adam and Eve,
that this would be embodied in the "Word" (as God's representative)???
I hope so, because although the spirit realities are sometimes hard to perceive by physical persons;
they are, none the less, the realities.
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3. JW teach that it tooks years for Eve to persuade her husband to eat, why is it that God did not immediately punish Eve for eating the forbidden fruit?

Regarding your third question, I am not familiar with that doctrine. But I can show you why I believe it to be false.
The only indication of timing the Bible gives, is that the next time Eve was with Adam,
she offered him the same knowledge that she accepted from Satan (Gen.3:6)
    (Here is a link to the interlinear, which shows that at the time Adam was with Eve, she gave it to him.
(https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen3.pdf)
This gives the impression that she offered what she had learned, as soon as she saw Adam, following her own sin.)
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4. If the tree of life is Jesus, why did God post angels around the tree?

Regarding your fourth question...
The description that follows in Genesis, regarding the consequences to Adam and Eve, have a symbolic meaning.
I am not saying that these things did not happen physically, but the meaning for us is symbolic.
For example, when God said that the ground would be cursed, and only produce "thorns and thistles", this is also symbolic (Gen.3:17,18).
(see Isa.34:13; 32:13; Luke 8:7,14; Matt.7:16;  2Cor.12:7; Eze.28:24; Micah 7:4,6). The "curse" of the ground, is lifted for the sealed anointed (Rev.22:3; Isa.55:13; 51:3; 52:1,2) (Luke 8:8,15; James 1:21;  1Pet.1:23). Can you see that this is symbolic?

So let us look at Gen.3:24 from this perspective.
This is very deep, and quite a lot could be written just about the symbolism of this one verse. I will cover it briefly, and please let me know if more of a certain point is required.
"After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life." (Gen.3:24)
This is very hard to put into a nutshell, but here goes...
The "Garden of Eden" filled with "trees of every kind...good for food" is one symbol for the "mountain of God"/Zion 
(Gen.2:9; Eze.47:12; Isa.41:19; 27:6; Rev.22:1,2; Isa.61:3,4) 
(Matt.15:13; Isa.44:23; Jer.17:8; Eze.47:7,12; Prov.3:13,18). 
Unfaithful "Wormwood" is also referred to in this way 
(Eze.28:13,14,16; Rev.18:11; Eze.31:8,9,10,11; Rev.8:10,11; 9:1,2,11; 17:4). 
Like Eve, she also became defiled by Satan, and was also cast out of the garden.
She will be brought low, and those whom she abased, will rise 
(Matt.23:12; Dan.4:17; Eze.36:35)
The entrance to Eden which was closed (Gen.3:24; Rev.15:8) (Heb.4:12; Gen.3:24; Gal.3:22), re-opens to the righteous 
(Isa.26:2; Ps.118:19; Isa.60:11,18,21; Rev.21:12,21,25,27; 22:14,15; Eze.44:9) 
(1John 1:1,2; 5:13,20; 4:9; John 3:16; 14:21,22). 
So too, access opens to the tree of life (John 6:57; Rev.22:14;  1John 1:1,2; 5:20).

The tree of life represents God's gift of life through Christ 
(1John 4:9; John 6:57; John 3:16; 5:26; 1:4; Acts 3:15)
That gift is also represented by the arc of the covenant, guarded by "two cherubim" 
(1Kings 8:6; 6:27;  2Kings 19:15; Ps.80:1; 99:1; Eze.10:1)
When the symbolic garden of Eden is restored, and the trees of life are accessible again,
the sanctuary is "opened", and living waters/manna/the law tablets (Heb.9:4;  2Cor.3:3), once again "flow" from the throne of God, and from the sanctuary in heaven.
(Ps.18:6,10; 80:1; Isa.37:16; Eze.10:1; Rev.11:19; 15:5; Eze.47:1; Rev.22:1,17; Heb.8:5; Jer.3:15,16,17).

So when we read that the "tree of life" was guarded by cherubim, we can hopefully perceive that this reality is prophetic and spiritual, and is still very much with us. 
It is the "two cherubim" (Rev.11:3), that determine who it is that are permitted to receive of life's provisions 
(Matt.16:19; Mark 10:37,40; Zech.4:3; Matt.17:2,3,11; Isa.61:4,3; Jer.1:10;  2Cor.10:4; Rev.2:26,27; Zech.4:3,14; Rev.11:4,3), 
thereby guardians of the "arc of the covenant" AND the "tree of life" 
(Rev.22:14; Ps.118:20; John 10:9,7; Rev.21:12; 22:14;  1Cor.4:1; Luke 12:42).
Not all are permitted access to the "tree of life" 
(Matt.13:11,12; 10:13,14,15; 7:6; Mark 6:11; Luke 10:11; Isa.29:11; Luke 8:10; John 6:65;  1Cor.2:10;  2Cor.4:3,4,5,6; 
Rev.22:15; 21:27; Isa.52:1 b; Joel 3:17; Nahum 1:15).

You see Modise...There is a "new creation", which follows exactly the original physical creation, in each of it's stages of "seven days".
These correspond to the "seven times" of purification of God's Holy Nation of 144000....
"Let there be light...a parting of the waters above and below...the sun for the light of day and the moon for night...the trees for food...the forming of the second Adam, and the forming of the second Eve from Adam's rib, through which Christ's heart was pierced.
    All of it takes on spiritual significance for the "new creation", which will inherit the original creation, which has now begun restoration through the spiritual justification.

The "angels" posted around the tree of life (empowered by a flaming sword -Rev.19:12,13,15; Heb.4:12; Jer.23:29)
are God's messengers of life and judgment (1Cor.6:2). They have many scriptural representations and appearances. Once there now existed two sets of seed... that of the woman and of Satan (Gen.3:15; Rev.12:17); God set guard so that the tree of life could not be accessed and perceived, by Satan's sinning seed (Matt.11:25; 13:13-14,34-35,10-11; Gal.3:22; Rev.2:17). The tree of life in the form of Jesus Christ, was only brought into the reach of those who were deemed worthy of forgiveness by his blood (Matt.13:16; Rev.5:9-10;  1Pet.2:9).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/08/two-trees.html

These things are the deep things of God. At times, I am given insight into them, without knowing how I can ever explain them simply and clearly. I do not want to make it too involved, but it is hard to keep simple (Hebrews 5:9,11). I hope you can understand the reply to what you ask.
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5. I have heard that the trees disappeared or were destroyed by the flood, is that true?

Your last question reflects the thinking of physical men, which is the basis for so many WT doctrines (1Cor.2:14,13).
Although all things written about the garden of Eden have a spiritual meaning for the New Creation 
(Gal.6:15,16; Rom.6:4; John 1:13;  2Cor.5:16,17,18,19,20);
any original physical elements involved are long gone, and are now insignificant.
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I hope my reply was satisfactory. Please follow up if you feel the need.
Love,
pearl

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Tuesday, December 26, 2017

What are, the Seven Spirits of God ?

God's "seven spirits" are from Him, but are not Him. The seven spirits, are "before the throne" of God (Rev.1:4). 
The Bible tells us, that they are the same as the "seven lamps" (Rev.4:5) who "burn and shine" (John 5:35; Matt.5:14-15). 
Such lamps can prove faithful, or unfaithful (Rev.8:10-11). 
-- Jesus also equates those blazing lamps/torches/flames, to "stars" (Rev.3:1; Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3), "horns", and "eyes" (Rev.5:6). "Eyes", are also "lamps" (Matt.6:22), because it is our ability to perceive, and the means by which our understanding, is enlightened.
"Horns", are kings under Christ (Rev.17:12; 1:5; 5:9-10).
Each of these "seven", are also called "angels" (=Greek:"messengers"), sent into the earth, to enlighten their own "congregation" (Rev.1:20) by means of their divine wisdom (Prov.9:1; Rev.3:12).
They are messengers of God's enlightening spirit (Matt.10:20; Heb.1:14)... prophets, to God's people. God sends His "light"/truth, into that dark "world", through such light-bearers (John 13:20)... to give light to those in God's "house" 
(Matt.5:14-15; Eph.2:19;  1Tim.3:15; Heb.3:6; Titus 1:7;  1Pet.4:17).

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Seven spirits work with Jesus as his messengers sent by him to his congregations, and they stand approved before his throne 
(Eph.6:13; Heb.1:7; 2:5,16; Rev.1:4,16; Luke 21:15; Mark 13:13; Matt.5:11,12)
Stars are sent to congregations on earth (Heb.1:14; Rev.1:20; Matt.5:15; Phil.2:15)
Spirits =stars (Rev.3:1)
Spirits = lamps (Rev.4:5)
Spirits = horns with eyes upon Jesus' head. Horns are the strength for conflict (2Cor.10:3,4,5; Eph.6:12,17 -"sword *of spirit"). They are the kings directed by their head, each with insight/eye/lamp (Heb.3:1,14; 4:14). 
(Col.1:18; Dan.7:24;  1Sam.2:10; Rev.5:6)
Seven angels are prophets sent to congregations who blow 
7 trumpets, which is their voice that speaks the 7 spirits of God (Matt.10:20; Rev.8:2; Isa.58:1; Heb.1:1; Josh.6:4) 
God's voice through them, are the 
7 thunders (2Sam.22:14; Job 37:5; 40:9; Ps.68:33; Rev.10:3) which again, is God's message coming through the prophets (1Cor.14:32; Heb.1:1;  2Pet.1:21; Jer.35:15).

 Josh.6:4; Heb.8:5; 9:11

7 bowls/cups are hearts (Ps.62:8; Lam.2:11,19; Rev.5:8; Job 11:13; Rom.10:1)
When the heart is poured out (bowl/cup), the voice speaks (trumpet) (Luke 6:45; Matt.12:34; Eph.1:7-8,9-10)
All the prophets speak again, through the seventh angel and fourth living creature 
(Rev.10:3,7; 15:6,7;  1Cor.13:9-10,11-12;  1John 3:2).
The past testimonies of the prophets are heard again through the seventh angel/fourth living creature in the time of the end 
(Rev.11:15; 16:17) (Rev.10:4; Dan.12:4,9)(Rev.22:10). 
Because the 7 seals of Revelation are opened in the time of the end, the seventh angel is able to reveal the prostitutes identity (Rev.17:1) and the identity of the Lamb's wife (Rev.21:9). 
The seventh angel is the last prophet, and the last one to testify to the judgment message of God's wrath (Heb.2:1,2; Rev.16:7; 11:15).

Monday, June 1, 2020

Who is worthy?

A QUESTION:
I understand from your writing, that the marriage feast will come through those who Jesus finds watching when he returns (Luke 12:37). If the marriage feast does not exist until after Jesus returns to his faithful slaves and gives it to them, How does that fit with the preceding verse, at Luke 12:36? There it sounds like Jesus is already done with the marriage feast.

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MY REPLY:
Very observant of you! That would seem like a contradiction.
But if we look at the order of events as the Bible depicts them as unfolding, that seeming contradiction is smoothed out.

Let's start with the origin of the marriage feast. Where do those provisions, originate?
Jesus tells us in parable, at Matt.22:2. We can see that further substantiated, at Dan.7:9-10,13 and Rev.5:1,6-7.
In all those scriptures, we see depicted the throne of the Father...
a sealed scroll in His hand which is due to be opened,
and Jesus approaching God's throne to receive that scroll.
Our Father God in heaven, is the source of the provisions of the Marriage Feast.

God has mysteries of wisdom, which no one else possesses (Rom.11:33; Mark 13:32).
Yet Jesus told us that one day, divine knowledge would become completed/abundant... 
(1Cor.13:9-10; John 16:13; Prov.4:18;  2Pet.1:19; Dan.12:4; Zech.14:7-9; Isa.29:18; 54:13; Heb.8:11; John 16:25), 
...the mysteries of God would be demonstrated/accomplished/manifested 
(Rev.10:7; Rom.16:25; Amos 3:7; Rev.22:6), 
...and Jesus would be given the knowledge of God (Rev.5:7), and he would pass it to his congregations, through their contemporary prophets (John 16:15,12-14,15; Matt.10:20;  1Cor.14:32; Rev.4:5; 5:6; 10:7; 1:20; Matt.5:15)(Rev.5:6; Jer.25:4; 44:4; Rev.22:6; 11:3).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/12/what-are-seven-spirits-of-god.html The sealed scroll in question, has seven seals (Rev.5:1). The opening of those seals/sacred secrets/hidden mysteries, is depicted within the book of Revelation (Rev.6:1,3,5,7,9,12; 8:1). The opening of those seals, are connected to, the declarations of God's prophets (Rev.8:7,8,10,12) (Rev.8:13; 9:1,12-13; 10:1,3,7)
That book of Revelation, is that sealed scroll
The opening of Revelation (which word means, uncovering/unveiling/revealing)... 
Is, the Marriage Feast (Isa.29:18,24; Rev.19:9; 22:6).

So we have established that the first one to know God's mysteries, is God Himself, naturally.
He is the one that owns and possesses, the bounteous spiritual feast of understanding, which He prepares for the marriage of His son.
Who is the second person, to possess these hidden mysteries of God?
Revelation chapter five explains, in verses 1-10:
"1 And I saw in the right hand of Him who sat on the throne a scroll written inside and on the back, sealed with seven seals. Then I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, “Who is worthy to open the scroll and to loose its seals?” And no one in heaven or on the earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll, or to look at it.
So I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open and read the scroll, or to look at it. But one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”
And I looked, and behold, in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as though it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth. Then He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of Him who sat on the throne.Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. And they sang a new song, saying:
You are worthy to take the scroll,
And to open its seals;
For You were slain,
And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
10 And have made us kings and priests to our God;
And they shall reign on the earth.”
There we learn that the second person to possess the secrets of God, is the Lamb.
Jesus Christ alone gets to view the wisdom of God and the contents of Revelation, before anyone else.
If we return to the illustrative parable of the marriage feast; this is how that would translate...
The King prepares a marriage feast for His son (Matt.22:2).
Before anyone else is able to view that feast, the Father shows His son first... what He has prepared for His son's wedding supper.
After the Bridegroom sees what his father has prepared...
  he goes to get his bride to bring her home to the banquet.
  The banquet is then open to all the guests.
  (That was the Jewish tradition)

Jesus Christ is the only one worthy, to first receive and open, the sealed scroll.
Some of the ancient prophets were given glimpses into that information, but they did not understand it. When they requested information, they were told that it would remains sealed, until the time of the End (Matt.13:16-17; Dan.12:8-9,10; Rev.10:4; 22:10).

Only after Jesus receives the marriage feast, does Jesus send out his last prophet/messenger/angel, to declare and offer that bounteous table, to the last congregation of his Bride members 
(Rev.10:7; 22:10; 1:1,20; Matt.5:15; Rev.22:6,16; Mal.3:1; Rev.10:1).
How will the messenger prophet of the covenant, who receives the scroll of bounty/wedding provisions  from Jesus, be selected?
Jesus tells us in many places...
(Matt.25:6-7,10; 24:45-47; Luke 12:35,42-44; Mark 13:33-35,36-37; Rev.2:7,17,26-28; 3:8,20; 4:1)

We saw that in order for Jesus to be given, to open, and to view the contents of the sealed scroll;
it was first required of him that he be martyred for the sake of God's Truth (Rev.5:9,12; Dan.7:13-14). 
He had thereby proven that his faithfulness to God's wisdom, was worth more to him, than his own life (John 4:34; 8:29; 18:37; 12:49-50). He faithfully obeyed God's purpose for him. He was therefore rightly rewarded by God, with an even greater measure of God's treasure store of divine wisdom.

What of subsequent recipients of that opened scroll?
They too would need to prove their worthiness 
(Mark 8:35; Rev.6:9-11; 12:10-11; John 16:2; Rom.6:5; 8:36;  2Cor.4:10). 
Their need to "die" is especially required, during the End-time Great Tribulation. At that time, the alliance of the false prophet and it's powerful and merciless Wild Beast, will put to death any who do not worship the Beast's Image (Rev.13:15,7-8,11:7). The prophet/angel to receive the message of Jesus to his last congregation, would also have needed to prove its' faithfulness, to the death. Through the ransom of Jesus and the sanctification it provides (Rev.5:9-10; Mal.2:7;  1Cor.4:1), such ones can become honored objects/vessels of God's truths 
(2Cor.5:11,18-19,20; Rom.9:20,23-24;  2Tim.2:20-21; Eph.2:10;  1Pet.5:10; Phil.1:6).

When the original invitees to the wedding feast, decline their invitation (Matt.22:3,5-6);
that feast then opens up to all... "both good and bad" (Matt.22:8-10).
God does not want His life-giving provisions to go to waste, but is willing to be generous to any who will appreciate God's gracious hospitality. Through the mercy of spirit and the sacrifice of the Bride members, that becomes the only requirement 
(John 20:21-22,23; Rev.22:17; Isa.55:1-2,5-6,7).

To review the order in which the contents of the Marriage Feast is passed down;
First, it is given directly to Jesus. Jesus Christ is the first one to sample the wedding feast that God has prepared for his marriage.
Second, Jesus gives it to his messenger/angel, a prophet.
Third, Jesus sends that angel in divine vision, to the apostle John. John records the visions in the book of Revelation. John sends that scroll, to the seven congregations.
Forth, That angel/prophet that Jesus sends with the message of Revelation, is also sent to the End-time congregation, in time for that scroll to have it's seals, opened.

So, when we read the verses in Luke ch.12, upon which your question is based....

"35 ‘Be dressed ready for service and keep your lamps burning, 36 like servants waiting for their master to return from a wedding banquet, so that when he comes and knocks they can immediately open the door for him. 37 It will be good for those servants whose master finds them watching when he comes. Truly I tell you, he will dress himself to serve, will make them recline at the table and will come and serve them."

There we can now see plainly, that Jesus is the first to take in the contents of the wedding banquet. He is the only one worthy to receive and open that scroll.
After absorbing it, he then finds a slave of his that is awake and working to shine true light, eagerly awaiting the Master's contact... ready to open the door to understanding which Jesus provides 
(Rev.3:20; Luke 12:36; 24:45; Rev.3:7; Matt.13:13,16). 
Such a one is chosen to become his messenger prophet, to show the last congregations "the things that will soon take place". That information will be unveiled, through the opening of the seals of Revelation, by the spirit within that last prophet 
(John 15:26; 16:12-15,13; Rev.22:6; 19:9-10).

Through this consideration, I hope you can plainly see that there is no contradiction between the availability of the wedding provisions to Jesus' congregation,
and the fact that Jesus samples those provisions, first.
We may tend to think that if the feast is not yet open to us,
then it must not yet exist.
Not so.
The wedding feast has existed eternally in the mind of God. That knowledge was given to Jesus, first. It is only when the time of the End arrives, that the sealed scroll of Revelation is due to be sent to, opened to, offered to, and understood by, humankind.
Luke 12:35,36,37
Rev.5:2-3,4-5

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