ARE the Temple, or IN the Temple?

Hello!

I have a misunderstanding: in REV. 7:3-8 are shown the 144,000 , they are not seen in the temple, maybe because they themselves are the Temple (spiritual)

then, the Great Crowd is seen "worship him day and night in his temple" v15

I know that in the old the priests were (literally) serving God in Temple (that temple was of stones)

in spirit the Temple are exactly the 144,000 ones (living stones) now the Great Crowd is serving IN "his temple"

my misunderstanding: how can the Temple(the great crowd) serve God in his temple(of living stones, 144,000) ?

thank you for your time and effort.

MY REPLY:

Rev.7:3,4

“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel."
Rev.7:14,15
 "I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,
“they are before the throne of God
    and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
    will shelter them with his presence."

Not all the truth is given in a few Bible verses, but the truth is constructed by means of all scripture.

This compares to the pieces of a puzzle. Rev.7:3-8 are not all the pieces which describe the 144000.

In fact, the entire scroll of Revelation is needed to describe them (the “wheat”). This scroll also includes descriptions of the antithesis of the 144000….those who do not prove faithful (the “weeds”).

Rev.7:3-8 is not highlighting the Temple aspect of the 144000. It is teaching here, a different facet of their attributes.

Here we are being told that these are spiritual Jews (Rom.2:28-29; Gal.3:29; Rom.9:8) chosen to be in covenant with God for the purpose of a holy priesthood (Rev.5:9-10;  1Pet.2:5,10,9; Isa.43:21,10). It also tells us that not all those chosen (the tribes of Israel) win the prize of being “sealed” (Rev.7:4; 14:3;  2Cor.1:21-22).

If you wish to learn the "Temple" aspect of the 144000, other verses are available.
(Eph.2:20-21,22;  1Cor.3:16;  1Pet.2:5)

You have asked;

“How can the Temple (the great crowd) serve God in his temple (of living stones, 144,000) ?”

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking-

How can the Great Crowd serve IN the Temple, if they ARE the Temple?

Is my understanding of your question correct? I hope so, because this is what I will answer. If this is not what you mean, please follow up with clarification.

I am perplexed that this confuses you, because all similar cases are expressed the same way.

For example,

If you were to see an battalion of soldiers,

Are they themselves “the army”, or are they serving “in” the army?

Of course, just a single soldier is not the entire army. But if only one soldier of a battalion were to enter a town first; it would not be wrong for someone to declare, "The army is here". So too; each single soldier is not considered “the Army”, but only a member of it, serving within the concept of a whole army to which they belong.
These concepts apply to any member of any group. So too, the Temple and it's members. 

Each single priest could be considered “the Temple”, but is really only a part of it, serving within the concept of a whole Temple priesthood, to which they belong.

Each priest is considered a representative of that Temple, and is serving as a priest within that whole Temple service (Rev.22:3).

Just as an "army" is not a physical building with a static location in which all soldiers must occupy in order to be "IN the army";
so too this spiritual Temple is a concept...a tent... that moves with God's spirit. That spirit is dwelling within each heart of the 144000. God’s spirit resides within each one of them, and in this way, they are God’s Temple. (1Cor.3:16; 6:19; Rom.8:9,11; Eph.2:22; Heb.3:6)

Another example-

If you have a Chorus...The chorus is not one member, but all. Each member is “IN the Chorus”…but there is no tangible “Chorus” that each member has to enter, as if it were a physical box or location.

The singers comprise the Chorus, as the soldiers comprise the army, as the Sons of God comprise the Temple.

Yet any individual member of all such groups, serve within that general group.

This is why a different aspect of the 144000 even tells us that there is no Temple

See Rev.21:22:

“I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple.”

This contributes more pieces to our full picture of understanding about the 144000.

Here The Father and Jesus are the Temple! Does this mean that the 144000 are God and Christ?

Does this mean that the Great Crowd from the Great Tribulation are inside of God and Christ….serving inside the 144000, who are also God and Christ?

As you can see, we can get very confused if we view things physically.

If we combine these scriptural pieces of insight, and logically compare these illustrations to other common reasoning;

We understand that the 144000 ARE the Temple (ie. The soldiers ARE the army)…individual priests serve IN the Temple (individual soldiers serve IN the army).  (1Cor.12:27; Rom.12:5)

As the commands of the army Officer are obeyed within the mind and actions of each soldier- the army itself, must also be within each soldier. 

At Rev.21:22 we learn that the 144000 are a city in which God dwells in spirit. Each of the 144000 have within them a heart in which the spirit of God dwells Eze.36:26;  2Cor.3:3; Jer.24:7; 31:33; Eze.11:19; Rom.2:29 (This is what qualifies them as belonging to the Temple).

Try to remember also, that this is all spiritual. As such- time, space, and physical laws, do not apply.

The physical realm is very limited in comparison. Even in the physical realm, we have seen that more than one reality can exist at the same time, if we are comparing a group to it's individual members. So much more so, in the spiritual realm.

Revelation's descriptions of the 144000 are nothing more than illustrations, for physical minds to be granted a partial glimpse, at grasping mentally a concept that is in reality, beyond human thinking (1Cor.2:9; John 17:21-22,23,26)

So your original question was:
"How can the Temple (the great crowd) serve God in his temple (of living stones, 144,000) ?"
To use our illustration, it could be asked in this way:
"How can a battalion serve in the army they belong to?"
Hopefully you can see that it is logical for a group to serve within the larger group which they belong to.
The "Great Crowd" remnant of priests who come through the Great Tribulation at the end of this system (Rev.7:14), serve within the same Temple arrangement that all of it's members do (Rev.20:6; 22:3).
No one else is permitted to serve within, but the priests (Num.18:7; 3:10;  2Chron.23:6; Eze.44:9) (Heb.8:5; Col.2:17; Eze.43:10-11,12). When others enter the Temple, or serve as priests (Eze.44:6-7,8-9;  2Chron.13:9) God considers that a "disgusting thing, standing in the Holy Place"/Temple (Mark 13:14; Matt.24:15) (http://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com/)
That Temple is not physical, but is an arrangement of priests who slave for God's purpose, to reconcile mankind to Himself (2Cor.5:20; Mal.2:7; Rev.22:3).
When New Jerusalem is inaugurated in heaven (just previous to it's descending to earth- Rev.21:2); the Great Crowd (the remaining ones of the woman's seed- Rev.12:17) will join the previously sealed  priests in heaven (1Thess.4:17), to complete the Holy City as it's "capstone" (Zech.4:7). This is the last stone ("remnant"/"Great Crowd") to be placed into the Temple (1Pet.2:5;  2Cor.5:1; Eph.2:21; Rev.7:9-10,13-14,15-16,17).

I hope this answers your question. If not, please let me know.

Love in Christ,

Pearl

The Great Crowd (again)

Dear Pearl,

Please take into consideration one important argument...

-- the Rev 7 is a vision ... the first ones are first in importance before Father 

it is seen the total group of the 144000 ones - ( after being made free from Babylon -the contemporaries ones) , cleansed and sealed = a total amount of 144000  out of every tribe of Spiritual Israel .

SO , that means all the actions from Jehovah's part for the building up of this "group"  is done/finished

then it comes :

9. After these things I saw, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, out of every nation and of all tribes and peoples and tongues......

please see (consider)  that John (the present "remnant") sees  this "after these things" / that shows us another action, with another group , an action which continues after the completeness of the first actions with the first group 

(more than that: the first ones are "out of every tribe of Israel"   while the seconds are "out of very tribes, nations, tongues...)

Now, there is something common to Jehovah's witnesses , which no other so called christian group has: - I mean a truth , the fact that there are two folds of people: the Christians

 - that is those who have faith and obey Christ /

-  and those (of course, with faith)  called by Father to be with His Son and having the anointment of the Spirit upon them 

MY REPLY:

Dear Xxx,

First I want to thank you for your support, when you post links to the writings.

Many come and read due to your help.

Now for your comments....

Not all anointed, are prophets (1Cor.12:27,29; Num.12:6). Not all of the remnant are "like the apostle John" was, when he was given visions of the end, which he wrote down in the book of Revelation.

For those never given visions, it is hard to understand 

how they are shown and written, and why  they are written the way that they are.

I was shown many visions. 

It is necessary to see them, one at a time. 

Yet...the things I saw did not happen (and are not fulfilled) in the order I was shown them.

In fact....I was shown the same things...over and over again...from various angles, other perspectives, and different viewpoints. Each vision added to my understanding of the same subjects and events.

So you see, the last vision did not happen "in time", after the first vision. 

Neither did their fulfillment happen in the order they were shown.

Can you understand this?

When Jesus described what "the kingdom of the heavens will become like", he gave many different parables.

Do we imagine that he was talking about many different kingdoms that were all different?

No. We know that it is all the same kingdom. We know that if we combine all the different descriptions, we make a full picture... to understand many things about one  kingdom.

This is how visions take place. There are many different visions....all describing different parts of the same truth.

Like many facets of the same gem, we must see each facet before we see the whole gem. 

This is what different visions accomplish.

It is the same with the visions given to John. I know this. I also had visions just like him.

I was given the visions to explain the book of Revelation. I know how to understand the way it is written.

Those who have not learned this way....they take the book from a human standpoint, and view the prophecies as having human timing.

When John says..."then I saw"...

he is not saying what happens next in prophecy .

He is telling what he saw next. 

There is a big difference between how a prophet learns, and how reality takes place.

When Jesus said what the kingdom will become like (Matt.13:24,31,33,45,47; Matt.25:1,14);

he did not mean that things would happen in that order....

that first the kingdom would be like a farmer...and then later... after that, it would become like a mustard grain.

No. All these things happen during the same time. 

But we do not learn each part of the Truth, all at the same time, do we?

And Jesus does not teach  all the facts at the same time (John 16:12). 

Otherwise, there would only be one  parable/illustration. 

Please understand that when Rev.7:4 describes the 144000 (as being Jews) (see Rom.2:29; Gal.3:29),

and THEN describes the Great Crowd as being of all nations (Rev.7:9; 5:9,10; Gal.3:28)...

IT IS NOT DESCRIBING two different time periods. It is not describing two different groups of people.

Just as Jesus gave many illustrations for the "kingdom" and what it would become like;

he also gave many descriptions of the sealed anointed. Why? So that we could understand these things more fully, with more detail.

This is the situation when we learn by means of illustrations, and when we learn by means of visions, (such as the book of Revelation). Illustrations compliment one another. Visions compliment one another. They each add information to the whole understanding. I know this.

You have made assumptions without the direction of scripture to do so.  

It is true that the Great Crowd shares traits with the 144000 priests, 

and yet it has a unique trait....these come through the time of the end and the Great Tribulation. 

Not all 144000 do that.

If you have a graduating class, and some of them receive special awards....

this does not mean that the students who are honored are not a part of the original graduating class, does it?

We are told that the Great Crowd have the honor of spiritually surviving the Great Tribulation.

This does not mean that they are not a part of the 144,000.

Rev.7 teaches us....and we must accept... that the 144000 are spiritual  "Jews" (Rom.2:28,29; Rev.7:4)

and at the same time also physically come from all Nations (Rev.5:9,10) (both Jew and Gentile- Acts 10:34,35; 15:12,13,14,15,16,17; 11:9; Rom.9:23,24; Eph.2:19,20,21,22; Rev.7:9)

By Jesus showing John that the heirs of the kingdom were BOTH spiritual Jews (in covenant), but also physically from all Nations...we learn both these truths about them...

That they are Jews (God's people)...BUT NOT PHYSICAL JEWS in the flesh. This corrects many present misunderstandings.

Both these truths (spiritual Jew, yet physical Gentile) cannot be illustrated all at once in the same symbols at the same time....

so they are shown in successive illustrations....

consistent with the way Jesus always taught, by many successive illustrations.
A vision IS an illustration. The only difference is that the student sees and lives it, rather than only hearing it. Anyone can read the Bible's illustrations. They can pray for Holy Spirit to understand, and they can read explanations from others.
But when God's spirit gives a vision, there is no room for misunderstanding. The prophet can question God's messenger or Christ directly, when the prophet needs more information or is confused. To experience something directly, makes a prophet a valid witness. Once a prophet is taken in the power of the spirit into spiritual, unseen realities surrounding events and identities; their faith and knowledge is a powerful shield against Satan's deceptions and doctrines/interpretations of men.

Each description and illustration,
and each vision,

teaches us a different part of the very same truth about the very same thing. 

I have learned directly from Christ.

I have received visions just like the apostle John. 

I know how Jesus teaches, and I know and understand how to interpret what 

both I and John were shown.

We can not nullify scripture. Each and every thing Revelation tells us about the Great Crowd, 

is how the chosen priests  are described in other scriptures.

We must accept the Bible's own interpretation of who the Great Crowd is.

Let us consider only one  of the many descriptions of them....Rev.7:15

"and they render sacred service day and night in his temple".

The "Temple" in Revelation is not  the physical "shadow" of the reality to come (Col.2:17; Heb.8:5). 

The "temple" in Revelation symbolizes the anointed 144000 priests, among whom God dwells (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:21,22; Rev.7:15 D).

If you read  Heb.10:11; 8:1,2; Num.18:5,6,7;  2Chron.23:6;  1Chron.23:3,4,5,24,28,30,32; Eze.44:5,9,15,16
("day and night" Rev.7:15;  1Chron.23:30)

you will see that the Bible says that the only ones permitted to "render sacred service...in the Temple" are God's priests (2Chron.23:6).

They are the only ones allowed to do this (Num.18:7).
Rev.7:9 tells us that these include those who were not his people (physical Gentiles), but these have now been "shown mercy" and made priests....
physical "Gentiles" made into spiritual Jews and  Holy priests (1Pet.2:10,9; Rev.5:9,10)
by means of spiritual circumcision of the heart (Rom.2:28,29; Col.2:11).

These who serve in God's temple, can not be spiritual Gentiles (uncircumcised in heart by spirit) who never received the circumcision of the heart (Eze.44:7). Only anointed, spiritual "Jews" and priests receive this circumcision by spirit (Rom.2:28,29) and may enter the temple to render acceptable sacred service (1Pet.2:5; Rev.7:15). 

Those born in the flesh as Gentiles, but who receive a circumcised heart by spirit, become spiritual Jews. (Eph.2:11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21; Eph.2:22; Eph.3:1,2,3,4,5,6]

If you and Xxxx do not understand these things,

you will not perceive the "disgusting thing" standing in the "Holy Place"

     (spiritual Gentiles- not anointed) standing in the Temple (taking over the priesthood- 2Chron.13:9; Eze.44:7).

If you still see the Great Crowd as not anointed (uncircumcised in heart), 

and that it is fine for them to serve in the temple,

then you accept what God thinks is an abomination. (2Chron.23:6; Num.3:10; Eze.44:7)

Please give Xxx all these scriptures and please tell him if that he still thinks that the Great Crowd of Rev.7:15 are not God's chosen priests and a part of the 144000 spiritual Jews, (Rev.7:4; 20:6)

then he must send me the scriptures which tell us

 that those not receiving the circumcision of the heart by spirit (Col.2:9,10,11,12; Rom.6:4,5; 2:28,29; Eph.3:6) may also render acceptable service to God in His spiritual Temple,

because that idea goes against the scriptures that I know (see some above), as well as prophecies which I was given understanding for.

If God finds it acceptable for spiritual Gentiles to serve in his temple,
then the Man of Lawlessness in 2Thess.2:4 is doing an acceptable thing, when he also trespasses into, and raises himself up "in God's temple" (Dan.8:11; 11:37).
 A spiritual Gentile is one who is uncircumcised in heart. (Eze.44:7,9)

Jesus said that in God's eyes, spiritual Gentiles in the Temple is a "disgusting thing"!
(Matt.24:15; Mark 13:14; Rev.11:2; Dan.8:13; 11:31) and caused the "Temple" (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:20,21,22) to become defiled (Dan.11:31; Jer.7:30; Dan.11:37,38; Jer.19:4; Rev.13:8).

Why then, would it seem good, for those in Rev.7:9,10 to be "saved" through the Great Tribulation and wear "white robes", if these are uncircumcised Gentiles who are breaking God's Temple Laws by replacing the priests in rendering sacred service?

Please study the previous scriptures. They will tell you and Xxx who the "Great Crowd" must be.

The scriptures can not be nullified, even if we think we understand something the Bible does not say.
The Bible must agree with itself, or else we have the wrong interpretation.

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When John said "after these things" he adds "I saw and look" (Rev.7:9 A).

It was after... that he saw...

not after, that it happened in fulfillment of prophecy.

This seeing "after", has nothing to do with fulfillment, or human timing.

Thinking that this indicates the order of prophetic fulfillment, is an assumption.

It indicates rather, the beginning of the next illustration.

This is how visions teach...in layers. 

Truths are shown in vision, over and over, until you learn the whole picture.

The scriptures about who is allowed to "render sacred  service in God's spiritual Temple" (Rev.7:15), 

must not be nullified.

If we do disregard these, we will never understand "the disgusting thing standing in a holy place".

There is a provision for life to those not circumcised in heart by spirit....

but it is not by means of them becoming the "disgusting thing".

That provision for life, is contained in the scriptures (Matt.10:40,41,42; 25:45,46).

If we understand the Great Crowd as not  anointed, 

then we believe the same lie "Jehovah's Witnesses" believe.

This lie from Satan lets those not chosen as priests, feel entitled to serve God "in His Temple priesthood", even emboldening them to name themselves, Jehovah's chosen witnesses (Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet.2:9), and be equal and even over the priests, allowing the trampling of the Holy Ones (Rev.11:2; Dan.7:25; 8:13; Luke 21:24; John 16:2; Rev.13:7).

This lie was needed for Satan to control the anointed and prevent their being sealed,

which is the result to those who let themselves be dominated and tormented by those who take over the Temple Priesthood from them (Isa.5:5; Dan.12:7; Lam.1:10; Rev.9:3,4,5,10). That dominating, tormenting identity is the "Man of Lawlessness"/"Wild Beast"/"Locust-Scorpions" (2Thess.2:3,4; Rev.13:7,8,15,16; 9:3,4,5,10). These are all the same entity.

I sympathize, that in seeing the Great Crowd as not being chosen priests, you yourself may not desire to trample God's chosen and anointed priests.

You may feel qualified to build your faith without the spirit given to them, to teach you with scripture (Mal.2:7).

You may feel that the service of the priests in the Temple, is no different than the service of others.

You may feel that it is nothing for God Himself to choose His nation to serve him,

and then for others not chosen nor cleansed, to render the same service.

But this is not at all what the Bible teaches.

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It is nothing for you to speak against, reject, or blaspheme God's chosen priests;

but it is something to reject God's Word and spirit. (Matt.12:31,32; Eph.6:17)

Please, read and accept the scriptures I have given you.

Love,

Pearl

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Who "renders sacred service, day and night" in God's Temple?

I received a comment about my published teachings on the "Great Crowd" of Rev.7:9.
It expressed a disbelief in the idea, that the Great Crowd are anointed ones.
and that the Greek word for "tent"/"dwell among them" at Rev.7:15 c, is the same Greek word for "tent"/"tabernacle" in Rev.21:3.
My objections are:
While English only has the word "tent"....these two places have two different Greek words.
One is a noun (thing), and the other is a verb (action).
There is a "tent", and there is the act of "tenting".
Knowing how these two words are applied in these two verses, are crucial, if we are to understand
the true identity of the Great Crowd.

Here was my partial reply:

Actually, I never said that the Great Crowd is the same group as the "numbered" 144000.
I said that no one can number those anointed who come through the "Great Tribulation"....the remnant of Chosen who become sealed. (Rev.7:14)

Rev.7:15 states that these are "rendering sacred service day and night in his temple".
The only ones permitted by God to do that, are the anointed, consecrated priests. 

(1Chron.23:30,32; Numbers 18:7;  1Chron.9:33;  2Chron.23:6)

1Pet.2:5...
"you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable  to God through Jesus Christ."
(2Chron.23:6-7; 13:10-11; Rev.22:3-4,5; Mal.3:3)(Heb.8:1-2; 9:11;  1Cor.3:9)

Having anyone else in the Temple (or anyone performing priestly duties), is precisely what the scriptures call "a disgusting thing standing in a holy place". (2Chron.13:9; Eze.44:6-7,8-9;  1Cor.3:17).
(anointed priests have been circumcised in heart, so that they may enter the Temple and serve God acceptably--- Rom.2:29)
Anyone who "renders sacred service" in the Temple, must be a priest , in order for it to be "acceptable".
All others are condemned to death.

The Greek at Rev.7:15 c does not say that the "tent will be spread over them" (bad translation!).
It says that "God " Himself "will tent upon them". [See CJB or WYC translation]

The Greek word for this "tent", means to "tabernacle with"...to "dwell among"
                    [this is the same word used in John 1:14 to describe Jesus "dwelling among" mankind.
                    This is why he was to be named "Immanuel" ("with us is God") to describe God's spirit
                    with Christ and he being God's representative. God's "tent" was not over Jesus
                    ....but God's spirit was in him....they were one (John 17:21,23). Also, Jesus was not 

                    "spread over" mankind... He was "with" them....dwelling among them

                     ...as God's spirit dwells in His anointed Temple. Eph.2:22;  1Cor.3:16]
...just as the pillar of smoke and fire was with the Tabernacle in Israel,
during the time they also spent... in the wilderness ...just as the remnant are now (Rev.12:6,14).

God is with  the Great Crowd (see Rev.21:22; 22:3). The sealed priests who complete the full number, are part of God's completed divine habitation,
even while still on earth. (Rev.11:4).
This is not the same as Rev.21:3 a ....which does literally say that the "tent of The God is with men". If you check there, you will see the word for "tent" (noun) is a different word entirely, from "to tabernacle with"/"tent upon"/"dwell among" (verb) in Rev.7:15.

Can you see all this in the scriptures above?
Please take each point, one at a time, with the scriptures that accompany the points,
and look at the Greek if you need to.

If you look at the Greek, you will be able to see that the English word "tent" (in Rev.7:15),
is not the word in Rev.21:3 ...which describes God's action toward  the Great Crowd.
Rev.7:15 describes God's presence with his priests (reside among them) (Tent:VERB/ACTION).
                                                    God's spirit is indwelling among the 144,000.
Rev.21:3 describes the priests (Temple/Tent) as being with mankind (Tent:NOUN/THING). In this
                                                    context, God will be present in the earth, through his anointed
                                                    Temple/Priesthood/Holy City....just as He was present
                                                    through Christ ("Immanuel"/"with us is God" Matt.1:23; Col.2:9).

To provide a physical comparison as an explanation regarding the difference between the two Greek words,

You can either eat food so that the food is within you, is nourishing you, and becomes a part of you 

as you absorb it and are nourished (verb) (God's spirit within the tent),

OR, you can set the food on the table (noun), and have the nourishment present before you 

and within reach. (God's tent with mankind).

In actuality, God's spirit is in His Temple of living stones 

(1Cor.3:16;  1Pet.2:5; <Rom.8:2,9,11;  1Cor.6:19), 

    and that Temple is within reach of mankind, through those priests present in the earth.

Please let me know how you do.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
PS: It is also significant that the Great Crowd are "dressed in white robes" (Rev.7:14).
This is only granted to the Bride of Christ (Rev.19:8)...
those sealed through their martyrdom (Rev.6:11)(Rom.6:5).

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QUESTIONS:

We know that our old personality was impaled with Christ Jesus as Romans 6:6 puts it but Ephesians 4:22 says "that you should put away the old personality..." And Colossians 3:9 says "strip off the old personality..."
Is Paul talking to two different groups here now??? One being in Romans as one and in Ephesians and Colossians as different other? Cause I know once a person receives a circumcision of the heart is part of that old personality being strip off, I know that. Does these have anything related to Ephesians 2:15,16,17; Eph.2:18 the two persons his talking about that's why there's two different persons I'm seeing ???
That makes me think of one given the white robe the one being circumcision from the heart. The other cleaning their robe ones not circumcised from the heart.
That makes "two people's" as Ephesians 2:15,16,17,18 puts it. What do you think?
Rev 6:11 "given to them" Rev.7:9,13 "dressed in white robes" "they have washed their robe and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 That is why they are before the throne of God; and they are rendering him sacred service day and night in his temple; and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them."

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The "two peoples" are both joined together to become parts of the same "body", Christ (1Cor.12:12,18; Eph.4:4,16; Eph.2:21;  1Pet.2:5,10).
Those two groups are fleshly Jews and fleshly Gentiles.
When each race becomes anointed, and all have their hearts circumcised, they all become SPIRITUAL Jews. All those belonging to Christ's body are spiritual Jews, regardless of their fleshly nationality. In this way, Christ did away with the enmity and separation that formerly was between Jews and Gentiles (Eph.2:14). They are now all united as spiritual Jews by means of faith and spirit (Gal.3:14,8,7,26,27,28,29; Rom.2:28,29) Being a physical Jew no longer mattered (Rom.4:14; Gal.5:6; 3:28; 6:15;  2Cor.5:17; Col.3:11; Acts 10:15,34-35).

The stripping off of the old personality, and Jesus impaling our sinful flesh to his torture stake....does not cause a transformation aside from our free will.
Jesus opened the way to become new...a new creation....with a new personality that lived by spirit and not by the flesh. (Rom.8:9,14;  1John 3:24; Gal.5:16-26)
That opened door is not enough, unless we walk through that door. It is up to us to work in harmony with spirit, so that we no longer practice sin, but rather become full grown in Christ. (Gal.5:16; Eph.4:13) Our new personality is not without work on our part (Luke 13:24; 21:36).

Regarding Rev. and the white robes....those differing scriptures do not point to two different groups, nor two different events. They point to two different requirements....the ransom of the lamb, and the righteous acts of the holy ones (Rev.19:8; 5:9,10; 6:9,11; 7:10; 12:11). The white robes are granted on the basis of both requirements.

What do you think Rev.7:9,13 means?
Who are the only ones that can fulfill Rev.7:15?
Did you see where the Great Crowd are working, in Rev.7:15?
Who are the only ones who are allowed to "render sacred service day and night in His temple" and have that service be acceptable?

Please read 2Chron.23:6,7;  1Pet.2:5;  1Cor.3:16-17; Eze.44:15-16; Num.3:10
Please read those scriptures, and please let me know who the Bible says the Great Crowd is.
Rev.7:14 will help you. It says that they are in "white robes" (Rev.19:8; 6:11; Lev.6:10; 16:32; Rev.7:13-14,15).
It also tells us what period of time they are from.
Rev.7:15 will also help (1Pet.2:5; Num.3:10).


So you see that those rendering service in the temple are priests...good. Who are the priests of the temple? Yes, the anointed (Rev.5:9-10;  1Pet.2:9-10). The great crowd are anointed ones. They are the same priesthood as the rest of the 144000. There are not two different groups. The "Great Crowd" are a part of the 144000. they are specifically the anointed who come through the Great Tribulation in the time of the end...the "remnant" of God's people (Rev.12:17). The 144000 are ALL the anointed who reign with Christ during his time-limited kingdom. The Great Crowd are from the time of the Great Tribulation, after the "thousand years" ends. They Great Crowd need to wash their robes, unlike the 144000 of the first resurrection, in whom no falsehood was ever found.
The Great Crowd are special because they are the ones from the end of the world (Matt.28:20; 24:34).
Please let me know if all your questions from today are answered.

Yes, the context of 2Chron. IS interesting!
Like today, the leaders of Israel replaced God's chosen priests. (2Chron.13:9). (see also Eze.44:6,7,8,9) Same as today. This is why we have to get out from under the apostasy, and not work in harmony with it's defiling and trampling, of God's anointed Temple. 

(Matt.24:15,16; Mark 13:14) (Eze.36:8; John 15:16; Matt.7:20; 5:14-16)
The anointed leaders have replaced their fellow anointed priests, with spiritual Gentiles. These elders and overseers have not received a circumcision of the heart by Holy Spirit, as the anointed have (Rom.2:28,29) (Eze.44:9); yet they have been empowered by the doctrines of the GB, to replace the anointed priests as shepherds of God's anointed Congregation. 

(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/02/who-is-false-prophet-who-gives-breath.html)

To our Heavenly Father, it is a rebellious abomination to replace those hand-picked by God Himself, and install these "uncircumcised" Gentiles over the sanctuary of the Almighty, and make it subject, to them (2Thess.2:4). The only rightful Head over the bride members, is Jesus Christ (Eph.5:23-25,26-27; 1:22; Col.1:18).
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This comment below was left under the post: 

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It read; 

"You imply that the 144000 and the great crowd are similar in the way that both groups have been anointed (does this therefore mean that they are given the same assignment? If not, how do their roles differ?). This makes sense as only 'priests' or anointed may "render... sacred service day and night in his temple" without defilement. Are you implying that only those who are anointed are saved and sealed to reign with Christ and worship God? If so, who do they reign over if they are all priests? If not, how may non-anointed ones serve or worship Him without defilement or be saved, or how can they become anointed? (please excuse my misunderstanding if these are simple questions as I have only begun studying the bible around 5-6 months ago)"

My response:

First you ask if all anointed receive the same assignment.

If you recall, all anointed who are joined to Christ their head, become one spirit with him because they become a part of his body 

(Eph.5:23; 4:14; 1:22-23;  1Cor.6:17; John 17:21,23; 15:4-5,7-8;  1Cor.12:27).

---All anointed priests are required to produce fine fruit, which symbolizes the teaching of divine truth (Mal.2:7;  1John2:20,27). 

If you do not see that interpretation clearly (fruit=teaching), please consider this post: 

(https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com)

---Priests offer incense, which means to offer prayer in behalf of others 

(Luke 1:9; Ps.141:2; Rev.5:8 <(note "elders"); James 5:14-15 <(note "elders");  1Cor.6:1,2,3)

None other than priest, can offer incense or sacrifice. Yet even in this, there are specific rules. The prophet Samuel was a priest of God in the days when Saul was king of Israel. Even the king could not perform the duties of priest 

(1Sam.13:7-14;  2Chron.23:6-7). All are to observe God's law to honor the distinction God makes, between the consecrated and the common.

---All priests are to offer the sacrifice of praise to God, the "bulls" of the lips (Hosea 14:2 (ESV) ; Heb.13:15). 

LINKS:(Priestly Duties) --- (Teach the Distinction)

Next you ask;

"If not (all given the same assignment), how do their roles differ?

This question assumes that the role of priest cannot vary among individual priests, unless they are not given the same assignment.

As mentioned above, the general assignment of priest contains some common services. There are others in addition to the ones mentioned. 

If you remember back to the practice of anointing in Israel, it was used to manifest God's choosing of a priest or king. Although an anointed king was given the general assignment to rule God's nation; each king faced various circumstances, which he as an individual would need to be responsible for. In most cases, God would communicate to that king through a prophet, outlining particular responsibilities for that individual king.

Although there are the general assignments given to all New Covenant anointed priests, regardless of when they live; their individual roles, do differ. So may their circumstances.

How do we know this?

Well remember above that I mentioned the union of the Body members of Christ, with him as Head?

Your question, is addressed in 1Corinthians, chapter 12.

I'll quote some key verses...

1Cor.12:

4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work. 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines. 12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 14 And so the body is not made up of one part but of many. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?"

These differences do reflect God's original Temple in Israel, which was designed as a physical pattern of the spiritual reality of heaven (2Chron.31:2;  1Chron.9:22-23,26,28-30; Heb.8:1-2,5).

Please give another look at verse 29 which reads;

"29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers?"

All the apostles, prophets, and teachers in the body of Christ, are anointed into their assignment as priests. How do those assignments compare both in commonality and uniqueness?

Note that verse 28 (underlined above) shows us an order to Christ's Body. 

The apostles are primary, next are the prophets, then teachers, etc.

To show that these positions are not always fluid, those who are assigned lesser responsibility than a teacher, are given the advice of James 3:1. Yet each one's assignment includes all gifts under them. For example, the apostles can prophesy and teach. Prophets can teach. Teachers can heal, help, and guide. Yet those given less, can not will themselves to be an apostle or prophet, or even a teacher (Matt.25:14-15;  1Pet.4:10). This is further revealed at Num.3:3-4; Lev.10:1; 16:1-2.

God considers it an even greater abomination, if the priesthood is traversed by uncircumcised foreigners (Eze.44:6-7,8-9,13;  2Chron.13:9). It has been long prophesied that this exact abomination takes place in the time of the End (Matt.24:15; Dan.11:31,36;  2Thess.2:4; Rev.11:2)

That order of Christ's Body members, is also the order of God's Temple of living stones (1Pet.2:5).

The Body and Temple are the same identity, both being expressed through each symbol (body,temple)(John 2:21).

We learn that at Eph.2:

20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21 In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. 22 And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit."

 Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22-23; 8:2,5

Just as the apostles are "first" and prophets are "second" (1Cor.12:28) and all the other Body parts of Christ come to follow them; At Eph.2:20, we learn the reason for that order. The "first" and "second" are the foundation.

So, to be direct...

all anointed priests are assigned to belong to the Body of Christ, and, are all living stones of God's habitation.

Yet their roles can certainly differ, even while they all offer sacred service day and night.

Even among the apostles ...their assignments differed from one another. Yet they were all apostles and foundation stones to the Holy City and the Christian faith (Rev.21:14).

You next ask;

"Are you implying that only those who are anointed are saved and sealed to reign with Christ and worship God?"

Not sure how you got this idea, and I wonder if you understand what it means to be "saved" or to be "sealed". You are connecting being "sealed to reigning with Christ" and then you hook on "and worship God".

I'll have to take that in pieces.

"Are you implying that only those who are anointed are saved?"    

       No. The role of priest is to assist others to be saved.

"Are you implying that only those who are anointed are...sealed?"

       I wonder if you know what it means to be sealed. 

It means to be spiritually marked as a slave of God. That mark is present when a person has God's Laws written on their heart and mind. God's Laws govern that one's faith, conscience, and actions. They then have the seal of God written on their forehead and hand (Deut.11:18; Rev.7:3; 14:1).

I don't know why you say "sealed to reign".

One can be sealed as a slave of God, without being a royal heir. There are those who were chosen to reign, who fail to get sealed. In fact, they even become sealed as obedient, idolater slaves of an Idol (Rev.13:16,7,10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Dan.11:33).

And finally you ask; "Are you implying that only those who are anointed...worship God?"

       I'm not clear why you are asking this.

Don't you recall that the whole nation of Israel, along with foreigners, worshiped God?

Were all those worshipers, anointed kings or priests?

I assume you already know that all those who worship God, are not anointed.

Genuine anointed Kings and Priests since the time of Christ, are designated, chosen, and assigned, 

to serve God, each other, and those who desire life from Christ.

Next you ask;

"how may non-anointed ones serve or worship Him without defilement or be saved, or how can they become anointed?"

That question is two-part.

FIRST:

All may serve and worship God without defilement and be saved, by learning from Christ and God. God sent Christ into the world to save it. That salvation is through Christ's teaching (John 6:63) because of the spirit of life and light, contained in the teaching. 

However, 

if a person has not been chosen and anointed by God to be a priest, they are not permitted to serve in that capacity. If they do enter into that service, they do defile it.

How do priests fit into the salvation of others?

I'll cite Mal.2:7 again. 

The teaching of life is symbolized as light, living water, a grapevine, or incorruptible wheat seed.

All three, originate with Jesus Christ 

(John 1:4,9,14; 8:12; 4:10,14; John 15:5; Luke 8:11;  1Pet.1:23; John 3:34; 6:51,35).

All three, are given by spirit to God's anointed priests, to continue the ministry of Christ.

(2Cor.5:20; 4:6;  1Pet.2:9; Matt.5:14-16)(Rev.22:17)

(John 15:16; Luke 6:43-45; Matt.13:51-52; 7:20; Rev.22:1-3)

(1Cor.10:17; Luke 8:15; Matt.13:37-38) 

(John 13:20;  1Cor.4:1; John 21:17; Luke 12:42)

SECOND:

Lastly you ask, "how may non-anointed...become anointed?"

Non-anointed become anointed, because God chooses them to be so. That assignment is not something that we can aspire to, or attain on our own. 

       (https://pearl-whoareanointed.blogspot.com)

We recall that we previously looked at the apostles as being "first"... the foundation of God's spiritual Temple. Did they choose that position and earn it in some way?

Well, John 6:70 shows that they were chosen. (John 15:16)

   If you read in the Bible, the accounts of their individual choosing, you will see that they did not anticipate when Jesus approached and chose them. It is the same when we are anointed, and Jesus circumcises our heart [Rom.2:28-29; Col.2:11 (NIV)]. The event is unexpected and miraculous.

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You brought up the distinction between the 144,000 and the Great Crowd; yet your questions did not really probe the distinction between their circumstances, nor how their responsibilities differ.

The 144000 reign with Christ DURING the symbolic thousand years (Rev.20:6). They exercise their authority to represent Christ, in the time during which, Jesus is subduing his enemies through the anointed (Mount Zion -Rev.14:1; Psalm 110:2) (Luke 22:69; Ps.110:1-2;  1Cor.15:25).

When that symbolic 1,000 year period ends, Satan is released from the abyss. 

He goes off to wage war with the remaining anointed (Rev.20:7-9; 17:14; 12:17). 

That enmity between Satan and his minions, against Christ and his faithful, is the period of time called the Great Tribulation which evolves into Armageddon. 

That is the era during which the Great Crowd exist (Rev.7:9,13,14,15). 

We read above in 1Cor.15:25 that Jesus rules until all enemies are subdued beneath his feet. Obviously, when Satan is released, gathers his forces, and attacks the anointed... all enemies are not yet subdued. 

1Cor.15:26 tells us that the very last enemy is "Death". That is the enemy that the Great Crowd must overcome, with Christ's help. That enemy emerges during the 4th watch. You can see God's watchman sound the warning as that enemy approaches, at Rev.6:7 (NKJV) and Rev.6:8 (NKJV)

The anointed kings under Christ are always charged with bringing Christ to those who want and accept him. 

The 144000 do that during Satan being restrained in the abyss. 

The Great Crowd must do that when Satan is loosed.

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This is MY response to a letter I received. 
I thought it's content would be helpful to the readers here.
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Dear Xxxx,
It seems you still believe the false teaching about the identity of the "little flock" (Luke 12:32).
You said;
  "Regarding the kingdom. it was 29 ce/33 ce.
and there is little flock of both Jews and Gentiles.
There is other sheep of both Jews and Gentiles."

While it is true that the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Christ began in the first century; 
("Two Kingdoms")
("Thousand Years")
...and that there were anointed and non-anointed in the first century;
the "little flock" was the Jewish anointed, who were first to be Jesus' disciples (Matt.15:24; 10:6) and be counted as kingdom heirs (Acts 13:45,46; 10:45,47,34,35), due to their belonging to the body of Christ (Gal.3:29,26) and due to their heritage as physical descendants of Abraham. AFTERWARD, the Gentiles also could become anointed by God's spirit, and joined in that "one flock" with "one shepherd" (see scriptures above, in Acts).
The little flock was the Jewish anointed. The "other sheep, not of *this fold" (*this--physical Jews); were the Gentile anointed to come later (John 10:16; Acts 13:46).
To read more proving scriptures about this, here are three helpful links:

"Anointed Flock -- The Truth"

"Little Flock"

"What is 'Jew'? What is 'Gentile'?"


I hope you read them. They will clean the lie from your mind, and help you to remove the mark of the Beast on your mind, and replace it with the truth of God's Word...  (Deut.6:6,8; Rev.13:16)
[Rev.13:17,18  ---  https://pearl-666.blogspot.com/]

Those who are not anointed, were not those whom Jesus referred to as "other sheep".
As you will see from the scriptures in those links, the "other sheep" are physical Gentiles who become a part of the "One flock" of anointed. Once in that flock, they all become  spiritual  "Jews" / "seed of Abraham" (Matt.3:9; Gal.3:28,29; Rom.4:16; 2:28,29).

Those who are not anointed can receive salvation, by accepting the faithful anointed ambassadors of Christ 
(John 13:20; Matt.10:14;  1Cor. 4:1;  2Cor. 5:20; Col.1:20; Mal.2:7; Rev.1:6; 5:10; Zech.8:23; Rev.21:3; Micah 4:2; Rev.14:1). 
They are God's Temple 
(1Cor. 3:16; Micah 1:2; Jer.42:5; 22:29; Rev.11:3,4; Zech.4:11,14).

(Zech.8:23; Rom.2:28,29; Gal.3:29) "What is 'Jew'? What is 'Gentile'?"
 If they DO accept the priests which Christ has sent, they will receive the same reward of life 
(Matt.10:40,41,42; Mark 9:41; Gal.3:29).

But you are right, there were those in the first Century, who were not anointed, but were still disciples of Christ. 
These were commended for their care of the "Holy Ones" (1Pet. 2:9,10; Heb.6:10;  1Cor. 1:2; Matt.25:37,38,39,40).

It is likely, as you said, that those who believed in forcing the circumcision issue upon the apostle Paul's work by Holy Spirit, were not even anointed (Acts 15:5). 
It is the same today, in that we have elders who are not anointed...
yet they also force beliefs that are not correct,
upon anointed who are enabled by God's spirit to recognize those doctrines as false.
These non-anointed elders are spiritual Gentiles. They trample the anointed Temple of God to be in subjection to them 
(1Cor. 3:16; Rev.11:2; Dan.7:25; 8:10,13; 11:36;  2Thess. 2:4; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10,7). 
They are fake priests, and are the "disgusting thing, standing in the Holy Place (Temple)" (Mark.13:14;  2Chron. 23:6). 
(pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com)
The governing body has given the non-anointed elders, fake authority and permission to take over the priesthood 
(Eze.44:6,7,8,9;  2Chron. 13:9). 
(Eze.44:8 was translated wrong in the old N.W.T., ...Check the Hebrew interlinear, and any other Bible. This has recently been corrected by the WT, to agree with other translations.)
(https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/44-8.htm).
Because the governing body has given them this fake power and fake "spirit directed" authority (Rev.13:15,8);
the image of the Organization is given the worship due Christ and the attentive consideration due his genuine Body of priests (1Cor. 6:2; Rom.14:4; 8:33).
Any who do not accept the fake authority which the false prophet gives the Gentile Wild Beast, and the image of spirit in it,
are thrown out, and killed (Rev.13:15,8,7; John 16:2; Mark 8:35; 13:13; Rev.6:9,10,11; 11:7,8).
This slavery to the Beast, is Idolatry (Rom.6:16; Gal.1:10). The Organization made of non-anointed elders and overseers,
is NOT the Body of Christ. It is not "spirit-directed" (John 20:21,22) (Rev.13:15). The governing body which teaches this lie, is the false prophet (Rev.19:20).
If you need more information about this, here:

"The Mark of Slavery"

You are also right about the "Great Crowd"...that they are anointed ones...they are the last of the anointed (The remnant/"remaining ones"/"rest" -Rev.12:17; 20:5). Their number are singled out, because they are the Elect from the period of the Great Tribulation (Rev.7:14), the result of Satan's release from the abyss (Rev.20:7,8; 16:14; 17:14) 
(Posts about the symbolic "Thousand Years").
We can see that they are also priests, because they minister in the Temple (2Chron. 23:6) "day and night" (Rev.7:15; Heb.10:11; Joel 1:13; Jer.33:20,21)
..."before God's Throne". Where is God's throne? (See Isa.66:1) 
The "Great Crowd" (Matt.5:19) serves in God's Temple; 
and we know that the Temple reality, is in Heaven 
(Heb.9:23; 8:5; Rev.15:5; 7:15; Heb.12:22,23,25). How does God, "warn us from heaven" (Heb.12:25)? First through Christ, and then through "eye witnesses" of heaven 

(Eph.2:6; Heb.12:25; 2:3; Luke 1:2;  2Pet. 1:16; Matt.16:28; 17:1,2; Rev.1:12,13,16,19; John 14:21; 16:13,14;  2Cor. 12:1,2; Num.12:6; Rev.22:6; Mal.3:1; Rev.10:7; Amos 3:7) 

(Rev.20:9; 11:5; Matt.10:20; Phil.3:20;  1Cor. 15:48). 

"Heaven" is where the Temple priests within it, serve 
(Rom.8:37; Rev.3:21; Eph.2:6; Rev.5:10; Mark 14:62; Jude 1:14; Heb.12:1; Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet. 2:9).

The "operation of error" (2Thess. 2:11,9) is the presence of a collective "lawless one"/"man of lawlessness" (2Thess. 2:3,4), who operate as Temple priests (Mark 13:14;  2Chron. 13:9; Eze.44:6,8) over God's genuine Temple priesthood (2Thess. 2:4;  1Cor. 3:16)...trampling them into submission 

(Rev.11:2; Dan.11:16 (Rev.13:4)...Dan.11:31,32,33 (Rev.13:10,7; Luke 21:24)...Dan.11:34,35,36 (2Thess. 2:4); Dan.8:10,13; Rev.13:7). 

(("Who are the 'gods'?"))
This operation is accomplished on the basis of lies/"error"/"delusion"; which comes through the false prophet/fallen star (Rev.13:11,15; 19:20; 8:10,11; 9:1,2,3,10; 12:15; 16:13,14;  1Tim. 4:1). This Gentile counterfeit priesthood, is successful for a time, in subjugating the genuine Chosen Ones (Rev.11:2; 13:5,7; Dan.12:7).

The "Great Crowd" is also said to wear white robes (Rev.7:13) (See Rev.19:7,8). If you would like more scriptures proving the identity of it's members, there are many in many posts at the Blog (you can use the search box for "Great Crowd") 
as well as these two articles:

(greatcrowd)
(Revelation: Who is the "Great Crowd") 
(Matt.5:19)

I hope you find plenty of benefit from the links I have inserted above. They contain information that can "set the captives, free" 
(Rev.13:10; Luke 4:18; John 8:32).

Love,
Pearl

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as follows:
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"You are also right about the "Great Crowd"...that they are anointed ones...they are the last of the anointed (The remnant/"remaining ones"/"rest" -Rev.12:17; 20:5). Their number are singled out, because they are the Elect from the period of the Great Tribulation (Rev.7:14), the result of Satan's release from the abyss (Rev.20:7,8; 16:14; 17:14). 
   (Posts about the symbolic "Thousand Years")
We can see that they are also priests, because they minister in the Temple (2Chron.23:6) "day and night" (Rev.7:15; Heb.10:11; Joel1:13; Jer.33:20,21)
..."before God's Throne". Where is God's throne? (See Isa.66:1) 
The "Great Crowd" (Matt.5:19) serves in God's Temple; 
and we know that the Temple reality, is in Heaven 
(Heb.9:23; 8:5; Rev.15:5; 7:15; Heb.12:22,23,25). How does God, "warn us from heaven" (Heb.12:25)? First through Christ, and then through "eye witnesses" of heaven (Heb.12:25; 2:3; Luke1:2; 2Pet.1:16; Matt.16:28; 17:1,2; Rev.1:12,13,16,19; John14:21; 16:13,14; 2Cor.12:1,2; Num.12:6; Rev.22:6; Mal.3:1; 2:7; Rev.10:7; Amos3:7) (Rev.20:9; 11:5; Matt.10:20; Phil.3:20; 1Cor.15:48). 
"Heaven" is where the Temple priests within it, serve 
(Eph.2:6; Rev.5:10; Mark14:62; Jude1:14; Heb.12:1; Isa.43:10,21; 1Pet.2:9).

The "operation of error" (2Thess.2:11,9) is the presence of a collective "lawless one"/"man of lawlessness" (2Thess2:3,4), who operate as Temple priests (Mark13:14; 2Chron.13:9; Eze.44:6,8) over God's genuine Temple priesthood (2Thess.2:4; 1Cor.3:16)...trampling them into submission (Rev.11:2; Dan.11:16 (Rev.13:4)...Dan.11:31,32,33 (Rev.13:10,7; Luke 21:24)...Dan.11:34,35,36 (2Thess.2:4); Dan.8:10,13; Rev.13:7). ("Who are the 'gods'?") 
This operation is accomplished on the basis of lies/"error"/"delusion"; which comes through the false prophet/fallen star (Rev.13:11,15; 19:20; 8:10,11; 9:1,2,3,10; 12:15; 16:13,14; 1Tim.4:1). This Gentile counterfeit priesthood ("disgusting thing"), is successful for a time, in subjugating ("trampling") the genuine Temple/Chosen Ones ("holy place" -1Cor.3:16; Deut.14:2) (Rev.11:2; 13:5,7; Dan.12:7).
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"Jehovah's Witness" doctrine claims;
"Come to Jehovah's organization for salvation" - Watchtower 1981 November 15 p.212

 Below is another quote from the Watchtower, from Jan., 2015:  (https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2011041) :
In that publication, paragraph 8 reads:
"Still, as a people, “the chosen ones” and their loyal companions will physically survive the end of apostate Christendom by taking refuge in "Jehovah and *his mountainlike organization."

"Jehovah's Witnesses" know that God will allow a destructive wrath at "the end of all things" (2Pet. 3:7;  1Pet. 4:7;  1Cor. 15:24)
 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2001123
Their doctrines promote seeking refuge in the Organization of "Jehovah's Witnesses".
That Organization is declared by them to be Jehovah's Mountain ("Jehovah and his mountainlike organization"); and is touted as being the fulfillment of Isa. 2:2.

Below are quotes from the Bible:

"The kings of the earth, the princes, the commanding officers, the rich, the strong, and every slave and free person, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!" Rev. 6:15,16

"The high places of wickedness will be destroyed--it is the sin of Israel. Thorns and thistles will grow up and cover their altars. Then they will say to the mountains, "Cover us!" and to the hills, "Fall on us!" Hosea 10:8
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        [Regarding thorns (Eze. 2:6-7) and scorpions, we learn that they are the rebellious. So when we read Rev. 9:3,5 ; we know from scripture, that these are not the faithful anointed, as the WT teaches. The locust-scorpions of Rev. ch.9, "have a king over them... the "Destroyer" (Rev. 9:11)(Isa. 33:1; Job 26:6; Eze.21:24), and the fallen star who releases them, is not Jesus Christ. How do we know?
Luke 8:18 and Heb. 2:1 both tell us that we must pay close attention to what we learn in God's Word. How can we apply that intent listening, to Rev. 9:1, in our research into scripture for the identity of this fallen star? We can, pay attention to the details of the original language.
Just as there is a difference between slipping on ice and falling, and coming down steps of our own accord... there is a difference between the Greek word peptOkota (having fallen) and the Greek word, katabainonta (down-stepping Rev. 20:1). If we pay attention to this difference, we see that there is a difference between stepping and falling. At Rev. 20:1, Jesus did not fall (1Cor. 10:12;  2Pet. 3:17). But there is an identity that did fall, at Rev. 8:10-11. Wormwood, is the fallen star, of Rev. 9:1, who releases the rebellious, and has the Destroyer as it's king.]
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-have-found-typing-mistakes-below-and.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/07/who-are-fallen-stars-of-rev124.html
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* https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/11/who-is-destroyer.html
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"Then "they will say to the mountains, "Fall on us!" and to the hills, "Cover us!"' Luke 23:30

“What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’ So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty." Zech. 4:7,6 (1Cor. 1:28,29)

"The second angel sounded, and something like a great burning mountain was thrown into the sea. One third of the sea became blood" Rev. 8:8
(Matt. 21:21)

Isa. 2:
"10 Go into the rocks, hide in the ground
    from the fearful presence of the Lord
    and the splendor of his majesty!
11 The eyes of the arrogant will be humbled
    and human pride brought low; (1Cor. 10:12; 3:18)
    the Lord alone will be exalted in that day.
 9 So people will be brought low
    and everyone humbled—
    do not forgive them."  (Luke 14:11)
17 The arrogance of man will be brought low
    and human pride humbled;                        
    the Lord alone will be exalted in that day,
18 and the idols will totally disappear. (Rev. 13:8)
19 People will flee to caves in the rocks
    and to holes in the ground (Rev. 13:4,3)
    from the fearful presence of the Lord
    and the splendor of his majesty,
    when he rises to shake the earth.
            (Amos 9:9; Haggai 2:6-7; Ps. 18:7; Isa. 13:13;
             Heb. 12:26; Eze. 38:19; Rev. 11:13; 16:18; Joel 3:16)
    22 Stop trusting in mere humans,
    who have but a breath in their nostrils.
    Why hold them in esteem?"    Isa. 2:10-11,9,17-18,19,22

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Satan has the power to create "mountains" during his present reign over the world (1John 5:19; Rev. 17:9).
"Again, the devil took him to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and their glory." Matt. 4:8
These mountains, include religious ones (Rev. 17:9).
Yhwh says that in the time of the end, there is a mountain which must become level ground...in preparation for the Kingdom...
[...a mountain which God will destroy; (Zech. 4:7; Rev. 8:8)].
We must be certain that we are not putting our trust in the counterfeit mountain.
(Luke 3:5; Mal. 3:1; Rev. 14:6,7; Isa. 46:11; Haggai 2:7) (Rev. 13:8; 16:2)

Counterfeit mountain?
Yes.

The scriptures also tell us of a True Mountain which does provide shelter and salvation. Survival depends upon the guidance of scripture, to give us the ability to discern the Genuine, from the Counterfeit.

We have already considered scriptures about the Counterfeit one. They teach us that it is associated with a trust in humans and their pride. We also see that the Counterfeit "arrogant" mountain offers protection from God's wrath, even to the "kings of the earth" (Rev. 6:15; 1:5-6; 5:10; 17:2).
(Who are the Kings of the Earth?)
That mountain is associated with "the sin of Israel" (Hosea 10:8), and rather than "exalting the Lord alone"; that mountain exalts itself.
(John 7:18; Rom. 1:25; Rev. 13:15; Isa. 42:8;  2Thess. 2:4; Matt. 23:12; Zech. 4:7)
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You may have heard it said, that the U.N. is the image of the "Wild Beast" of Rev. 13:1-8.
Why has the "Watchtower" taught this?
They say it is because of the "blasphemous names" (Rev. 13:1; 17:3) which are said to cover the Beast. They have taught that this is fulfilled within the United Nations, because these claim to be God's Kingdom on earth.
How did the "Watchtower" arrive at this judgment?
For many years, the United Nations has had a monument in a nearby park, which includes a plaque upon which Isa. 2:4 is scripted.



These plaques symbolized the intentions of the U.N., and it's aspiration (not claim) to bring unity and peace to the Nations of the world. Many individuals and organizations have had the aspiration to contribute to such a goal. This alone does not make them the "Wild Beast" of Revelation.
It should be noted, that
these plaques are no longer officially endorsed by the UN, in compliance with it's adjusted tenet to remove a flavor of religious preference.

The point is this....
If the "Watchtower" interprets the image of the Wild Beast as being the UN, on the basis that it falsely claimed to be the fulfillment of Isa. 2:2,3,4 (blasphemy);
then how is it that the "Watchtower" itself  is not the "Wild beast"; since it is the only identity, falsely making this same claim?
In actuality, the U.N. never claimed to fulfill the prophecy at Isa. 2:4.
This plaque commemorated it's aspirations, and it's "prayer for peace on earth".
Many have said such prayers, but only the WT claims to answer that prayer. The "Watchtower" actually does make the claim that they fulfill Isa. 2:2,3,4.

Let us not forget that according to scripture, "people of all the 'earth' will (also) "worship" this "Wild Beast" (Rev. 13:8) (see Greek),

and allow it to direct their thinking and actions (Rev. 13:16), rather than God (Deut. 11:18; 6:6,8). This has not been true of the United Nations. At Rev. 13:11-15, prophecy describes a false prophet  (Rev. 19:20) who decrees that any who refuse to worship the image of the Beast, should be killed by the tangible Beast. That too, is true of the "Watchtower". They disfellowship any who refuse to laud their organization as essential for salvation, and that expulsion is considered by them, as a spiritual death. (John 16:2; Mark 8:35).

They themselves make the claim, that this "Mountain-like" Organization, is the very fulfillment of Isa. 2:2,3,4.
They teach that if anyone puts their trust in their "Mountain-like Organization", they will find the very salvation of God, including a "spiritual paradise" right here and now, filled with "peace and security" with God
(1Thess. 5:3; Eze. 13:9-11; Rev. 16:21; Jer. 14:13-15; Rev. 6:8; Jer. 5:31; 8:11).
They claim that under the wings of the Organization and it's stance of "neutrality", people "do not learn war anymore". (Isa. 2:4)

Is this true?
Or, is this "blasphemy"? (Rev. 13:1,5-7,7-10; Dan. 7:25; 8:11-12)
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Since the doctrine of "Jehovah's Witnesses" asserts that their Organization fulfills Isa. 2:3;
Let's take a closer look at that scripture and it's context. (If you read the entire chapter; you will see that the condition of God's people in the time of the end, is corrupt and rebellious.)

"In the last days
the mountain of the Lord’s temple will be established
    as the highest of the mountains;
it will be exalted above the hills,
    and all nations will stream to it.
3 Many peoples will come and say,

“Come, let us go up to the mountain of the Lord,
    to the temple of the God of Jacob.
He will teach us his ways,
    so that we may walk in his paths.”
The law will go out from Zion,
    the word of the Lord from Jerusalem." Isa. 2:2,3
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First, we are pointedly told that this takes place "in the last days".
Next, the mountain to be "established", is "the Lord's Temple" which consists of God's anointed priests and Christ's Bride, heavenly New Jerusalem (1Pet. 2:5;  1Cor. 3:16; Eph. 2:20-21,22,10; Rev. 21:2-3).
Lastly, this identity is verified in the last two lines....
"The law will go out from Zion,
    the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."

Clearly, the Mountain in question is Mt. Zion (Also referred to as "Jerusalem").
Where is Mt. Zion; and what does it consist of?
Rev. 14:1 tells us:
"Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads."
And Rev. 21:2,10 :
" I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God."
-- ( https://pearl-holycity.blogspot.com )
Again....where is Mt.Zion from; and who does it consist of? (Heb. 12:22,23)
I sincerely hope that you can discern the genuine from the counterfeit...
and which "mountain" is clearly being spoken of, at Isa. 2:2-3; 14:32.

Is the 'Watchtower' Organization made up of the 144,000? 
Or,
is it's backbone and body almost entirely made up of those who are not even Chosen Ones? Who do you see as representatives of the Organization within your own Congregation?....the anointed "ambassadors" of Christ (2Cor. 5:20; Rom. 2:29;  1Cor. 6:2,3), or spiritual Gentiles (Elders) who have raised themselves up over God's Chosen Priests? (2Thess. 2:4; Rev. 11:1,2; Mark 13:14) (please see: "Jew" or "Gentile"?)
Who writes up the "spiritual food" served in WT magazines? Are you aware that it is sourced in writing committees that are not anointed, and their contrivances merely signed off by the GB figurehead? 

(Eze. 44:6,8; Mal. 2:7; Rev. 5:10)

Please compare these two mountains. Are you certain that they are the same one?

Jesus once said that the true worshipers would no longer worship beneath a physical, visible  "mountain" on earth;
(John 4:21,23-24; Heb. 11:10; Isa. 66:1-2; John 2:19;  1Cor. 3:16; Eph. 2:21-22)
But rather, the Temple which Christ was going to raise up "in three days", was the Temple of his "body"; whose members would be identified...not by the visible, but by a worship according to  "spirit and truth" (1John 2:20,21;  1Cor. 12:27; Eph. 2:6; Heb. 12:22,23).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/05/where-is-true-religion.html)

While on earth...which mountain did Jesus Christ himself point to as God's means of salvation?
Was it the WTBTS?
Jesus decided to make these things clear to his disciples, by giving them a miraculous vision. Let's see what we today can learn from it.
Please read Matt. 17:1,5,9; Mark 9:2,7,9



You may notice there that Jesus here associates his glorification with a mountain!
He is "transfigured" into a state of reigning glory before those apostolic witnesses, while on that mountain. With him *at his arrival, are his co-rulers, symbolized by Moses and Elijah [Matt. 17:1-3; Rev. 11:3,4; Zech. 4:14,11; Rev. 11:4; Luke 9:28-31 

-***(2Pet.1:18; Rev.21:10; Psalm 2:6; Rev.14:1).
Was this mountain the Organization of "Jehovah's Witnesses"? What was this mountain of vision, which was associated with Christ's Kingdom power and glory?


One of the witnesses of that vision tells us, 

at 2Pet. 1:16,17,18,19 :

"16 For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to him from the Majestic Glory, saying, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” 18 We ourselves heard this voice that came from heaven when we were with him on the sacred mountain." 

(Ps. 2:6; Zech. 8:3; Isa. 11:9; Eze. 20:40; Rev. 14:1; Dan. 2:35; Gen. 28:14; Rom. 4:13,12; Gen. 13:14,15; Gal. 3:29; Isa. 54:1-2,3-4,5-6,7; Ps. 30:5)
"19 We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts."

God and Christ knew in advance that there would be Satanic counterfeit prophets 

(Matt. 7:15,20; 24:24-25; Rev. 8:10-11; 9:1; 13:8,11,13-14; 16:13,14,15;  2Thess. 2:1,2,3,4;  2Pet. 2:1,2,3). 

God and Christ foreknew that these would possess a "mountain" of organized power to deceive 

(Jer. 51:25; Rev. 8:8; 11:18; (Jer. 51:25) Rev. 17:9; Zech. 4:7). 

That Gentile power would be raised up right within the midst of the anointed Temple! 

(2Thess. 2:4; Rev. 11:1-2; Matt. 24:15; Mark 13:14)
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But we also have God's prophecies about the end of that Counterfeit mountain.
How exactly will this take place, according to the scriptures?
At Zech. 4:7, we are told that the end of the counterfeit mountain is associated with the appearance of the "capstone" of God's Temple (1Pet. 2:5; Eph. 2:21). The "capstone" is the crowning glory of completion, and is made up of the last remnant faithful anointed to complete "God's building"/Temple/Mt.Zion (1Cor. 3:9; Eph. 2:20; Heb. 11:10; Zech. 4:7,8,9,11,14; Rev. 11:3-4).



This "capstone" is the "Great Crowd", who come though the end/Great Tribulation (Rev. 20:4; 6:9,11; 7:9,10,13,14)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-great-crowd-again.html)
and (https://pearl-greatcrowd.blogspot.com/)

So, it is during the presence of the "Great Crowd" of end-time anointed priests 

(Rev. 7:15;  2Chron. 23:6; Num. 3:10; Rev. 7:15; 5:10), that this "mighty mountain" becomes "level ground". 

How does this take place? (Mark 11:23; Rev.8:8)
Scripture tells us, at Zech. 4:6-14:

"6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.
7 “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’”
8 Then the word of the Lord came to me:
9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have *laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you. *(John 6:70; Rev. 21:14)
10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, since the seven eyes of the Lord that range throughout the earth will rejoice when they see the chosen capstone in the hand of Zerubbabel?” (Rev. 1:16,20)
11 Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?”
12 Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?”
14 So he said, “These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

Yes...the "capstone" is the final manifestation of the faithful anointed, the "two witnesses", and they are labeled God's priestly Great Crowd (Zech. 4:14,11; Rev. 11:4,3; John 8:17; Rev. 19:9 (NIV)
(They serve in, and are, the Temple - 1Pet. 2:5;  1Cor. 3:16; Rev. 7:15; Num. 18:7)(Matt. 5:19; Rev. 7:9; 19:1,8)
This remnant ("the rest"/"remaining ones" -Rev. 12:17) completes the Temple of God...AND the Holy Mountain, New Jerusalem (Heb. 12:22; Isa. 24:23; 60:14; Rev. 3:9; 21:2)
...made in heaven by God
(Acts 7:48; Eph. 2:10,20,21,22;  1Cor. 3:16;  2Cor. 5:1; Heb. 9:11; John 2:19,21;  1Cor. 12:27; Eph. 2:6; Heb. 12:22,23)
....(not made on earth, consisting of "uncircumcised" spiritual Gentiles as it's shepherds, priests, and princes.)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-is-jew-what-is-gentile-answers-to.html)

(pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com)

 

Rev. 11:19; 4:5; Zech. 4:10; Rev. 5:6; Luke 17:24; Eze. 1:14

But does the appearance of this "capstone" have any part in being used by Jehovah's spirit, to level the evil mountain? Would God's spirit (Zech. 4:6) empower them to do this?
Let's look at what Jesus said, especially to his final brothers....

"Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Matt. 17:20
"Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done."  Matt. 21:21
“Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them. 24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours." Mark 11:23,24


What mountain is thrown "into the sea"?

"The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, ("mighty mountain" Zech. 4:7), all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed" Rev. 8:8,9
["all ablaze" (Jer. 23:29; Jer. 5:14 (NIV) ; Rev. 11:3,5; Hosea 6:5;  2Pet. 3:7,10,11,12)]



It is the evil counterfeit mountain that is "thrown into the sea" (Isa. 57:20; 27:1).
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Jesus has told his "capstone", that they are indeed able to accomplish this, if only they have faith...
and it's source...Holy Spirit.
By means of God's spirit and the faith of the final prophets (two witnesses), that mountain will come down.

       Can-the-Watchtower-Crumble?
It will be replaced with Mt. Zion...the holy mountain from Heaven...
which consists, not of spiritual "Gentiles" who are defiling and trampling the Holy Place into subjection....


(pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com)
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but of Christ and his Bride...the 144000!
(Rev. 6:14; 16:20; 14:1)

Paul himself contrasted the physical mountain against the spiritual.
We benefit from his words:

"You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19 to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20 because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” 21 The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.”
22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect" Heb. 12:18-19,20-21,22-23; Dan. 2:34-35,44-45 (Isa. 51:1; Isa. 44:8).



"Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them."  

Heb. 11:1,2,8,10,16; Rev. 21:2

So...

does our heavenly Father have a "mountain-like" Organization?
Yes. An administration of priests, "hand-picked" by God to become heirs of the earth, to the blessing of all Creation. 

(Eph.1:9-10,11-12;  1Pet.2:9-10; Rom. 8:19; Gal. 3:29; Gen. 13:14; 28:14; Heb. 2:5,16; Rev. 22:1-2; Eze. 34:27)

I pray for all those who read what I have received, that you may have eyes wide opened; that you might not perish, as all of the deceived ones will (2Thess.2:9,10; Rev.18:4).
We may wish for a physical City, filled with physical signs 

(Rev.17:18; Matt.12:39,40; Rev.11:8; Matt.24:28). 

But those who accept and are deceived by the physical, show a lack of spiritual perception, Faith, and patience toward God's promises. 

(1Cor.2:14; Rom. 8:25;  1Thess.1:3;  2Thess.2:1-2,3)

"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." 2Cor. 4:18

So let us imitate our spiritual forefather Abraham, who lived by Faith, and not by sight (2Cor.5:7; Heb. 6:11; 13:7).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/07/hide-or-herald.html)

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I also hope these scriptures will help you to discern that...
Matt. 5:14,16; Zech. 6:1; Zech. 4:14; Rev. 11:4,3; (Rev. 12:6; John 14:3; Heb. 13:13; Matt. 25:6);
Psalm 72:3; 3:4;  2Chron. 13:10,11,12; Joel 3:18; Zech. 14:8; Isa. 65:9; Jer. 50:19,20;
 Zech. 3:9; <(Acts 4:11; Rev. 5:6); Luke 23:30; Eze. 36:8

as well as the article about Matt. 24:15,16 located at:
pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com

What is the difference between these "mountains" and the Organization of "Jehovah's Witnesses"?
Jesus said that we could tell the difference between True and False Prophets by their "fruit" (Matt. 7:20; Mal. 3:18). What does this mean? You may wish to consider
(Can-the-Watchtower-Crumble?),

("Who are 'God's People'?")
and
** https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com/