Thursday, August 30, 2012

"Peace and Security" within "Jerusalem"?

Here is a recent comment, and my reply:

COMMENT:

I find that you Pearl are the one attacking another anointed brother. What Perimeno said was not prophecy he merely quoted scriptures.

I find him to be a humble man, and never puts himself over Gods sheep, he knows he is here for Gods sheep not the other way around.

You also mentioned that he is under the GB influence by remaining in the congregation. Was Christ under the directions and influence of the Pharasees while still going to the temple. Was the apostle Paul under the direction of the superfine apostles, did he advocate leaving the congregation because of the wickedness by some of those anointed, NO. We wait on Jehovah, anything else is pushing ahead.

What would you have the sheep leave and go where, where do they congregate? where do they encourage one another, Jehovah looks after his sheep even when they are surrounded by wicked ones within, even if some of the shepherds have become apostate. Jehovah's holy spirit is for all his people, individually those faithful among his sheep are given his holy spirit it endure. Love is the key, love of God and love of our brothers, Jesus gave us the example to follow.

When Jesus adressed the seven congregations in Rev; did he say for any of the faithful b/s to leave, no he said for those who were doing wrong to repent. Jehovah in is loving kindness is waiting for those ones in his temple to repent, and I agree with Perimeno that it has another reason, to show those who are faithful and waiting on Jehovah for his time to judge his house, those that worship the GB and its WTO will be judged, and will be a distinction between those that love and worship Jehovah and those that love and worship the organization.

Where are Gods sheep today then? do we not go to the meetings to encourage one another, to show brotherly love?

Jesus brought his lost sheep back to the pen, he did not say go and find another.
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REPLY:

If you reconsider, you may realize that I have not "attacked" Perimeno, but rather, have attacked some of his teachings. Perhaps you do not realize, that the central purpose and calling of anointed (should they prove faithful), is to do exactly that (2Cor.10:4,5,6). Is that not what Perimeno does also, with some teachings of the GB? 
Perimeno did not merely "quote scriptures"...he gave his interpretation, and how that interpretation should guide others. I KNOW that this guidance, will lead others to death. I MUST speak (Eze.33:8).
I know Perimeno. I caution you concerning the putting of your Faith in his "humility". This has been done over the GB too. Such faith is irrelevant. Our faith should only be in Jehovah, Christ, and the scriptures.
Jesus Christ was never "under the direction and influence of the Pharisees". His obedience to God's Laws were direct, and from the time of his birth he was born "under Law" (Gal.4:4). Jesus actions and teachings easily prove whose influence and direction he was under (John5:30; Matt.23:13,17).
Paul spoke out, publicly "attacking" the false teachings of "superfine apostles", did he not? (2Cor.11:12; 1Tim.1:7)
"Waiting on Jehovah", is blasphemy. Jehovah's justice is not to blame for the wickedness. The delay and drunken sleepiness of the anointed, is (Rev.6:11; 12:11; 2Tim.1:7). As regards "pushing ahead"...the anointed have not been called into inactivity (Phil.3:13; Rev.2:2-3,5,19,26; 3:2), but to war (Rev.19:11,14; 17:14; 12:11; Mark8:35). Those who refuse to fight, die (Rev.3:16; 1Tim.6:12; Heb.10:39; Matt.10:33).
As far as "where the sheep should go", that depends upon their obedience to Christ (Matt.24:15,16,28; Rev.18:4).
You are correct...Jehovah DOES "look after His sheep, even when they are surrounded by wicked ones". He also looks after them when they are no longer a part of the wicked ones (2Cor.6:17; Psalm26:4,5).
"Encouragement" is not derived by a passive listening to lies, while those around you are being guided to death (Eze.33:8).
The "example of Jesus", was to leave the corrupt congregation (Matt.23:38,39). It is NOT the path of love, to condone the misleading of God's Nation by Satan. This is what one does, if they sit in silence while their fellows are being deceived.
The wrong that the "seven congregations" were doing, which they needed to repent for, was a "tolerating" of false teachings, even though those teachings were "misleading of my slaves to commit fornication and idolatry" (Rev.2:14,15,16,20,22,23; 3:2,19). The rest of that same book, gives clear instruction to the remnant....
How do you understand these scriptures???.....
Rev.6:9,10,11; 13:15
How many who DO NOT worship the beast, avoid being "killed" by it?
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"Jehovah's temple", are anointed (1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5). Perimeno's false teachings about this have gained him a following, based upon this false compliment (Rom16:18; 1Thess.2:5,4)...just as the elders have been mislead into thinking that they are the "spirit-appointed" "princes" (Rev.9:7).
The distinction (Mal.3:18), between those who love and worship Jehovah and those who follow the Beast, is already being made manifest...not within the meetings...but in the "wilderness" outside, where the "eagles" are gathering. Do you seriously see anyone standing up for truth in the Kingdom Hall, to fulfill Mal.3:18? I am sure that if anyone does claim this "certain distinction", he will be promptly ushered out, and announced as expelled. There is your distinction!
(Teach the Distinction!)
How is it that you are showing "brotherly love" to those on the line to the wine-press of God's wrath? Is your warning to them distinct? (1Cor.14:8)
Jesus himself (not an organization), is the entrance to the true spiritual "pen" (John10:9). The "Pen" of Jesus Christ is not a corrupt man-made organization which is now ruled by Satan (Rev.9:11). God's people are being held captive in that deadly pen (Rev.13:10; Isa.5:18,13,14; Amos9:4,8,9,10). When Jehovah "sifts" his people (Amos9:9), it is so that the "desirable ones" come to the True Temple! (Haggai 2:7; Matt.24:28). Jehovah's Word DOES NOT TELL US TO STAY PUT amidst the apostasy during his separating work. He tells us to GET OUT (Rev.18:4). Jehovah's pen is not inside the City of Jerusalem, "Babylon", Egypt, or Sodom (Rev.11:8; 18:10). Why does Jehovah compare the corrupt "City" that kills the faithful anointed to "Sodom" and "Egypt"? Because in the case of both, physical fleeing meant survival! (Luke17:28,29,30,32,33)
When the righteous soul of Lot was tormented by the lawlessness of Sodom's citizens (2Pet.2:6,7,8) the solution was not to upbuild, love, and encourage those corrupt people, but to be removed from them. As impossible as it may seem, "Jerusalem" is now in the same condition (Eze.9:4,9,10; Rev.18:5); and anyone inside should also be "sighing and groaning"..."tormented" like Lot...if their "soul" is also "righteous" (Rev.9:5). Jehovah's judgment is coming to these (1Pet.4:17; Jer.25:29,30) and consistent with all the Cities destroyed by Jehovah in the past....to remain in their proximity of them, means death.

Why does Rev.11:8 also say that "Sodom" and "Egypt" it is the same place Jesus was impaled? Because the central place of Jehovah's worship... apostate Jerusalem (Matt.23:37); is in the same spiritual condition. Just as God's faithful had to flee from Babylon, Sodom, Egypt, and Jerusalem...God's people in the time of the end are given the same warning (Rev.18:4 --"MY people") to "get out" of where they are.
Please send me the scripture where the Bible tells Jehovah's remnant, to stay inside and
remain associating with the mislead idolators, (1Cor.5:11; Psalm26:4,5)...not to warn them, but to "encourage" them toward a greater sense of "peace and security" (Eze.13:10; 1Thess.5:3).
I pray you wake up (Eph.5:11).

6 comments:

  1. Good Reflections (specially for prospect kings):

    Proverbs 24:7 For a foolish one true wisdom is too high; in the gate he will not open his mouth.

    Proverbs 14:25 A true witness is delivering souls, but a deceitful one launches forth mere lies.

    Psalm 68:6 God is causing the solitary ones to dwell in a house; He is bringing forth prisoners into full prosperity.
    However, as for the stubborn, they have to reside in a scorched land.

    and a secular one:
    "History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social [I would say spiritual] transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people."
    Martin Luther King, Jr.

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  2. Proverbs 23:1 In case you should sit down to feed yourself with a king, you should diligently consider what is before you, 2 and you must put a knife to your throat if you are the owner of soul. 3 Do not show yourself craving his tasty dishes, as it is the food of lies.

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  3. Jesus Apostles did not stay in their Jewish Synagogues. They were thrown out (John16:2) Why? Because they confessed unity with Jesus, and taught what they had learned from Jesus to their fellow Jews. All the same, many even of the rulers actually put faith in Jesus, but because of the Pharisees, they would not confess him, in order not to be expelled from the synagogue. (John 12:42) You see, the Jews had already come to an agreement that, if anyone confessed him as Christ, he should get expelled from the synagogue. (John 9:22,23) Jesus said that Everyone, then, who confesses union with me before men, I will also confess union with him before my father who is in heaven.(Matthew 10:32, 33) Read (Matthew 10:34-39). Jesus did not come to put peace (Not yet). All who want to be his disciples must be willing to speak truth each one with his neighbor (Eph.4:25). Your closest neighbor is sitting right next to you in your congregation. But be forewarned, it has already been agreed upon by the Organization, that anyone who confesses union with "Truth" (That is, anything that is not in agreement with their version of truth), will be expelled from the congregation. Jesus said God's word is Truth. (John 17:17) Jesus is the word of God. (John 1:1,14) (John 14:6)
    So the bottom line is, if you Truly love your neighbor, your brothers, and sisters, you will share the truth with them. You will not have to leave the congregation. In due time you will be marked, and in due time expelled. If you really love the truth then speak each one truth to his neighbor, the one sitting right next to you at the meeting.

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  4. If you are afraid to openly speak truth to those whom you claim are related to you in the Faith ("brothers and sisters"), then you decline to do so out of fear of the Organization (Prov.29:25). That intimidation is considered by God, subjection to the power and "authority" of the Organization. Out of fear, you accept their mark upon your power (right hand)...and you allow the "Beast" to stop you from obeying Jehovah (Eph.4:25).
    ONLY those unbranded (and then "killed") by the Organizational "Beast", are considered faithful (Rev.20:4; 11:7; 6:11; Luke17:33).
    Those who subject themselves *in any way* to the Beast, are idolaters (Rev.14:9,10). They will suffer the penalty as such.
    We do not want to be associated with any identity that is persecuting Christ's faithful brothers (Matt.25:40,46).

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  5. Greetings Pearl !
    I am so glad to see the war going ahead !

    and
    Saudações Paulo (ExatoVerdade), estou feliz em ver que você está seguindo as mensagens de Pearl.
    http://www.forum.clickgratis.com.br/tjlivres/t-1065.html

    Indeed Father's will is clear to us: (Matt 17:5 )
    “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.
    LISTEN TO HIM!”
    ( Este é o meu Filho amado, em quem me comprazo;
    A ELE OUVI ! )

    And the Son expresses very clear Matt 24:15,16 )
    15. “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’...
    16. then LET those who are in Judea FLEE TO MOUNTAINS. "
    (15. Quando, pois, virdes estar no lugar santo a abominação de desolação,....
    16. então os que estiverem na Judéia FUJAM PARA OS MONTES; )

    This is what "worship with spirit and with truth" means : to OBEY the Son ! It is Fathers's will.

    Pearl, I thank our God Jehovah for His Spirit is helping you to spread the very clear message "flee out" from the wicked "city" !

    your brothers in Romania.

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  6. Hi
    Indeed, I am following Bible itself , but as Jesus said, we would have brothers and sisters who stands for the truth
    Anyone who follows Bible teachings will say almost same thing
    Spirit is what gives witness

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