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Who are Yhwh's Witnesses? A familiar scripture tells us. These are the very same verses which "Jehovah's Witnesses" use to justify taking that label. Please re-examine those verses now, in the hope that as was the case with me, your misconception can be guided into accurate knowledge by means of the Bible.
Isa.43:10,11,12,21:
10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord,
and apart from me there is no savior.
12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed—
I, and not some foreign god among you.
You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “that I am God.
21 the people I formed for myself
that they may proclaim my praise.
22 “Yet you have not called on me, Jacob,
you have not wearied yourselves for me, Israel.
28 So I disgraced the dignitaries of your temple;
I consigned Jacob to destruction
and Israel to scorn."
I have emphasized some of the points Yhwh's words make, because of their relevance to the misconception mentioned earlier.
The Witnesses referred to in this scripture, received that position, not from men, but from God.
Isa.43:10 clearly states, that Yhwh's genuine witnesses, are those "chosen" by Him (Rom.9:16,18,23-24,21; 2Chron. 16:9; Eph.1:14; 2Cor. 5:5). These can not be those chosen and designated by mere men (Rom.2:29; Col.2:11; 2Cor. 10:18; 4:7; John 15:16,19). This misconception occurred based upon the assumption that Yhwh had already judged and appointed the "faithful and discreet slave" over all his belongings (in 1919 -though this doctrine was recently abolished); and that God installed not only those 144,000 anointed slaves over Christ's total inheritance (Matt.28:18; Rev.1:18; 1Cor. 15:24; Dan.2:44; 7:27) (2Thess. 2:1,2,3,4), but also all in association with them, as His "witnesses".
This is not at all what these verses in Isa.43 say, nor what any of the end-time prophecies, indicate.
The symbolic last two prophets are called Yhwh's "witnesses" (Rev.11:3).
According to prophecy, every one of them are "killed" (Rev.20:4; 6:11; Rom.6:5).
The Bible makes clear who God's "chosen" ones are [Col.3:12; Luke 1:78 (2Pet. 1:19); Luke 18:7; 1Pet. 2:9,10; Deut.7:6).
("Who are 'God's people'?")
It also makes clear what their assignment is (Isa.43:21; 1Pet. 2:9). The assignment of the Priesthood is not to be rendered in the "Temple" by any other (Num.18:7; 2Chron. 23:6; Heb.5:4; Eze.44:16). Only those chosen to be priests may render "acceptable service" (1Pet. 2:5; Rev.5:9,10; Rom.15:16; Heb.13:15; Rev.1:6) in the Temple arrangement (1Cor. 3:16; 1Pet. 2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22).
Any other arrangement is considered an abomination by God (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 9:4; Joel 3:17), a "disgusting thing standing in the holy place" (Matt.24:15), "standing where it ought not" to be (Mark 13:14)...."trampling" the priesthood of "holy ones" 2Chron. 13:9; Lam.1:10; Rev.11:1,2; 2Thess. 2:4; Rev.13:6,7; Dan.8:13; 1Chron. 13:9,10; Matt.5:13).
The next point made at Isa.43:10, is that these ones whom God chooses, are given by God Himself....divine knowledge, understanding, and faith in and of the True God (1John 2:20,27,28; 2Cor. 5:5; 1Thess. 4:8). These ones are then said to realize, that besides this True God, there is NO other identity to be served or worshiped (Matt.4:10).
Isa.43:11 adds the trait, that these chosen ones understand, that besides Yhwh and His expressed arrangement, there is no other means nor path of salvation (Eph.1:8,9,10,11,12; Isa.2:3; Rev.7:10).
Isa.43:12, Yhwh emphasized once again, that he himself is the only source of revelation, light, and divine proclamation among these chosen ones (Matt.23:10; Gal.1:11,12; 2Cor. 11:3; 1Tim. 4:1). God's spirit is the source of knowledge to those chosen by Him (James 1:5; Prov.2:5,6; Ec.2:26; 2Cor. 1:21,22)....not an organization which falsely claims spirit direction (Ps.118:8; Jer.17:5; 23:21; (1Thess. 5:2,3)-- Jer.14:13,14,15; Eze.14:21; Rev.6:8).
God spirit directs and dwells within His Temple priesthood (1Cor. 3:16; Eph.2:22; 1Pet. 2:5,9); Not with spiritual Gentiles who hijack this position, due to the lying spirit from a false prophet (Rev.13:15,7,8; 11:2; 16:13,15; 2Thess. 2:4; Matt.24:4,5,11,24,25).
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Yhwh also finds it necessary to clarify and repeat, that there is no other object of worship and service among God's witnesses (Matt.4:10; Gal.2:4; 2Cor. 11:20,3; Rev.13:10,7; Dan.8:13,12; Isa.63:18; Jer.12:10; Dan.12:6,7; Rev.6:10,11).
At Isa.43:12, God concludes by saying that these personal students of His, must teach what they know (1Pet. 2:9; Mal.2:7; Matt.5:14,16; 10:20) ....specifically, that only Yhwh is the God deserving service, fear, and worship (Rev.4:11; 1:6; 14:7; 19:1; Matt.22:37; Deut.13:4; Eze.2:3,4,5,6,7; Luke 4:8; Matt.4:10), not an organizational "mountain" offering salvation (Rev.6:16; Zech.4:7; Mark 11:23; Rev.8:8; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:8).
http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-genuine-mountain.html
This exclusive devotion indicates that only God is to be personally worshiped, served and glorified. This teaching would characterize God's genuine "witnesses"....but not the climate of God's people in the time of the end (Rev.13:8,7,10,14,15,16,17,18,4; Isa.44:20; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16; Isa.44:20) (Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16,8)
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Who are Yhwh's Witnesses? A familiar scripture tells us. These are the very same verses which "Jehovah's Witnesses" use to justify taking that label. Please re-examine those verses now, in the hope that as was the case with me, your misconception can be guided into accurate knowledge by means of the Bible.
Isa.43:10,11,12,21:
10 “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
“and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord,
and apart from me there is no savior.
12 I have revealed and saved and proclaimed—
I, and not some foreign god among you.
You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “that I am God.
21 the people I formed for myself
that they may proclaim my praise.
22 “Yet you have not called on me, Jacob,
you have not wearied yourselves for me, Israel.
28 So I disgraced the dignitaries of your temple;
I consigned Jacob to destruction
and Israel to scorn."
I have emphasized some of the points Yhwh's words make, because of their relevance to the misconception mentioned earlier.
The Witnesses referred to in this scripture, received that position, not from men, but from God.
Isa.43:10 clearly states, that Yhwh's genuine witnesses, are those "chosen" by Him (Rom.9:16,18,23-24,21; 2Chron. 16:9; Eph.1:14; 2Cor. 5:5). These can not be those chosen and designated by mere men (Rom.2:29; Col.2:11; 2Cor. 10:18; 4:7; John 15:16,19). This misconception occurred based upon the assumption that Yhwh had already judged and appointed the "faithful and discreet slave" over all his belongings (in 1919 -though this doctrine was recently abolished); and that God installed not only those 144,000 anointed slaves over Christ's total inheritance (Matt.28:18; Rev.1:18; 1Cor. 15:24; Dan.2:44; 7:27) (2Thess. 2:1,2,3,4), but also all in association with them, as His "witnesses".
This is not at all what these verses in Isa.43 say, nor what any of the end-time prophecies, indicate.
The symbolic last two prophets are called Yhwh's "witnesses" (Rev.11:3).
According to prophecy, every one of them are "killed" (Rev.20:4; 6:11; Rom.6:5).
The Bible makes clear who God's "chosen" ones are [Col.3:12; Luke 1:78 (2Pet. 1:19); Luke 18:7; 1Pet. 2:9,10; Deut.7:6).
("Who are 'God's people'?")
It also makes clear what their assignment is (Isa.43:21; 1Pet. 2:9). The assignment of the Priesthood is not to be rendered in the "Temple" by any other (Num.18:7; 2Chron. 23:6; Heb.5:4; Eze.44:16). Only those chosen to be priests may render "acceptable service" (1Pet. 2:5; Rev.5:9,10; Rom.15:16; Heb.13:15; Rev.1:6) in the Temple arrangement (1Cor. 3:16; 1Pet. 2:5; Eph.2:20,21,22).
Any other arrangement is considered an abomination by God (Eze.44:6,7,8,9; 9:4; Joel 3:17), a "disgusting thing standing in the holy place" (Matt.24:15), "standing where it ought not" to be (Mark 13:14)...."trampling" the priesthood of "holy ones" 2Chron. 13:9; Lam.1:10; Rev.11:1,2; 2Thess. 2:4; Rev.13:6,7; Dan.8:13; 1Chron. 13:9,10; Matt.5:13).
The next point made at Isa.43:10, is that these ones whom God chooses, are given by God Himself....divine knowledge, understanding, and faith in and of the True God (1John 2:20,27,28; 2Cor. 5:5; 1Thess. 4:8). These ones are then said to realize, that besides this True God, there is NO other identity to be served or worshiped (Matt.4:10).
Isa.43:11 adds the trait, that these chosen ones understand, that besides Yhwh and His expressed arrangement, there is no other means nor path of salvation (Eph.1:8,9,10,11,12; Isa.2:3; Rev.7:10).
Isa.43:12, Yhwh emphasized once again, that he himself is the only source of revelation, light, and divine proclamation among these chosen ones (Matt.23:10; Gal.1:11,12; 2Cor. 11:3; 1Tim. 4:1). God's spirit is the source of knowledge to those chosen by Him (James 1:5; Prov.2:5,6; Ec.2:26; 2Cor. 1:21,22)....not an organization which falsely claims spirit direction (Ps.118:8; Jer.17:5; 23:21; (1Thess. 5:2,3)-- Jer.14:13,14,15; Eze.14:21; Rev.6:8).
God spirit directs and dwells within His Temple priesthood (1Cor. 3:16; Eph.2:22; 1Pet. 2:5,9); Not with spiritual Gentiles who hijack this position, due to the lying spirit from a false prophet (Rev.13:15,7,8; 11:2; 16:13,15; 2Thess. 2:4; Matt.24:4,5,11,24,25).
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Yhwh also finds it necessary to clarify and repeat, that there is no other object of worship and service among God's witnesses (Matt.4:10; Gal.2:4; 2Cor. 11:20,3; Rev.13:10,7; Dan.8:13,12; Isa.63:18; Jer.12:10; Dan.12:6,7; Rev.6:10,11).
At Isa.43:12, God concludes by saying that these personal students of His, must teach what they know (1Pet. 2:9; Mal.2:7; Matt.5:14,16; 10:20) ....specifically, that only Yhwh is the God deserving service, fear, and worship (Rev.4:11; 1:6; 14:7; 19:1; Matt.22:37; Deut.13:4; Eze.2:3,4,5,6,7; Luke 4:8; Matt.4:10), not an organizational "mountain" offering salvation (Rev.6:16; Zech.4:7; Mark 11:23; Rev.8:8; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:8).
http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/jehovahs-genuine-mountain.html
This exclusive devotion indicates that only God is to be personally worshiped, served and glorified. This teaching would characterize God's genuine "witnesses"....but not the climate of God's people in the time of the end (Rev.13:8,7,10,14,15,16,17,18,4; Isa.44:20; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16; Isa.44:20) (Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Rom.1:25; Rev.13:16,8)
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Isa.43:21 adds more detail about these genuine witnesses. It highlights the facts that this new creation is being "formed" by God over time, into a group with a purpose (1Cor. 3:9; Heb.9:11; Eph.2:21,22,19,20; Rev.21:14,17,22; 14:1). That singular purpose is to "declare" God's "praise" (Isa.43:21; 1Pet. 2:9). This would exclude working to accrue praise for any other identity (Rom.2:29; Gal.1:10; Rev.13:8), nor pointing to it's worldly power for salvation or divine knowledge. This singular purpose would certainly NOT include procuring praise for oneself (John 7:18,16,17; Luke 17:10). For God does not share His glory and praise with any other identity. Yhwh's genuine and chosen witnesses, already know this (Isa.42:8).
Do we have any scriptural teachings in the Greek scriptures to indicate who these chosen witnesses are (since Isaiah is written to those in the Covenant that has already ended)? Yes...those chosen to be witnesses of Yhwh...those who continue to fulfill Isa.43:10-28 are identified under the New Covenant Nation (1Pet. 2:9,10). The people God forms for himself to declare his praise, based upon the knowledge they have received directly from His spirit; are clearly identified for any who wish to be followers of Christ (John 7:17; Matt.7:20).
According to Yhwh..."Yhwh's Witnesses" are the anointed "chosen" ones, as long as they are:
worshiping God alone,
are taught by means of God's spirit and Word exclusively (John 4:24; 17:17),
and like Jesus, they must preach and teach others to have an exclusive devotion and worship to God alone.
(Matt.4:10; 22:36,37,38; Exo.34:14; Rev.13:8,4,7,15; Matt.23:37,34,35; Rev.18:24; 19:2; Isa.1:21)
(Num.35:30; Deut.17:6; 19:15,18,19; Prov.6:16,17,18,19; 12:17; 14:5; 25:18; James 4:11; 1Pet. 2:1; Rev.13:11; 16:13; 13:18)
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Gal1:11 I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that the gospel I preached is not of human origin.
ReplyDelete12 I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it; rather, I received it by revelation from Jesus Christ. (NOT through the Org of that time).
This is such a good verse. Paul WAS a True Yhwh's Witness,yet didnt need any instruction from the "Org" of that time. Any significant teachings that are to be shared can come through an invited anointed one who doesnt answer to the Org,ONLY Christ who gives them the Revelation to then be shared with others. Paul was explaining where the truth he preached came from...and it wasnt men,not even those in Jerusalem.
BUT,just as all invited are witnesses when 1st Invited because they have shown a level of faithfulness,these true Invited Witnesses can be become Apostate and be unfaithful Witnesses. This is what is happening within JWs. We are seeing what happens when someone who used to be a faithful Chosen Anointed Witness become so corrupted,that they are referred to as a Harlot. An ex faithful ,but now a Harlot Witness still acting and claiming they still are "Jehovah's Witnesses".
This is something that Christ through His True Faithful Chosen Anointed Witnesses is sharing with us and explains the current love of Jah "cooling of" within JWs. How could it be any different with a Harlot,ex faithful Anointed "Witness" in a Governing position within the Organisation? We have to search for Jahs True Anointed Witnesses,who are like Paul and are directed directly from Christ and hear Christ's true Revelations through them. On the other hand,BEWARE of the unfaithful Harlot Invited "Witness" who has proven unworthy of the Invitation they have received. They are no longer Yhwh's true Witnesses.
Thank you R.A.
DeleteYes, the source of what Paul taught was by direct contact with Holy Spirit, which gave Paul vision/revelation. Being an apostle, he was endowed with all the gifts of the body of Christ. He describes this experience of revelation/vision, at 2Cor.12:1,2,3,4,5,6,7.
It was necessary to boast about his experience apart from himself as a mere man, so that others would realize that he was not boasting about himself, but about his experience and the truth it contained from God. He obediently offered the information the great revelations contained, to others to see and hear, since that was the purpose of such visions, and is the purpose of prophetic witnesses which are shown them. (Num.12:6; Amos3:7; Eze.33:7; 2:7; Jer.26:2; 13:13; Rev.14:10,6,7)
Prophets are rarely accepted by God's people generally, but only by a few (John4:44; Matt.23:34; Rev.11:7,8,9,10). Satan sees to it that they have a "thorn" of opposition to keep them in torment (2Cor.12:7; Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3,5,10). Most people do not realize, that when a prophet obeys his calling, it is not sourced in a desire for personal gain, but is sourced in their weakness, which is the only reason why they are chosen for this role. Those chosen know full well that the power behind their accomplishments, is God's. They know they speak by the authority of God, and therefore, they MUST declare what they have been shown. For this reason, they will boast only about the role they have been assigned. They desire, not attention for themselves, but attention for God's saving message which Christ himself shows them.
When we are taken by the power of the spirit into visions, it is impossible for the one taken to know, whether their body is still in the physical realm, because their entire experience of all their senses, is taken into the spirit realm. It is the only reality, while they are in vision.
22 “Yet you have not called on me, Jacob,you have not wearied yourselves for me, Israel.
ReplyDeleteThats also a good verse you quoted. Who is Israel and Jacob? Those who are Invited Anointed. So them being Yhwh's Witnesses is about Anointed Remnant in modern times,who have not called on Jah or wearied themselves for Him. Instead His unfaithful witnesses are toiling for the GB and Beast. It was a point that stood out as confirming Isa 43 is talking about Invited Anointed,not non anointed JWs and that they have no right to bear this name. Thanks for sharing this!
Very interesting, though JW is not the Church for me. God directs me through the spirit of decernment through His words
ReplyDeleteI wonder from your comment, if you are under the impression that I believe that JWs ARE God's witnesses. Is that so? IF that is the impression you have, then I wonder if you read or got the sense of the post above. The post exposes by means of scripture, that JWs are NOT God's Witnesses. When you say that "God directs me through the spirit of discernment through His words"... I am moved to ask if you are one of God's Chosen ones, anointed into His Temple priesthood (1Pet.2:5,9-10; Mal.2:7). If not, scripture is clear that the members of the temple of God's spirit (1Cor.3:16; Eph.2:22) are those who speak and teach by means of that spirit (Matt.10:20; 1Cor.4:1; 2Cor.3:5; Mal.2:7) to the benefit of all who listen to them (Matt.7:15,20; Luke6:43-45; Rev.22:1-2; Gen.22:18; Gal.3:29; Luke10:16).
DeletePlease read the post more carefully, to see that JWs fulfill Matt.24:15.
DeleteI also suggest reading the linked posts contained within the article above. They will make clearer to you, what my perspective is of JWs... but more importantly, what the perspective of prophecy is, regarding JWs.