Monday, March 23, 2020

Memorial 2020 -- April 5, after sundown

Commemoration of the Lord's Memorial, is rightly held on Nisan 13. For those of you who did not realize that Jesus held the occasion and died, on Nisan 13, you can research that proof in the scriptures, by using the search box on this Blog Main Page.
Mark 14:12; 15:42-43; John19:14,31,42
While the Passover lambs were being sacrificed for the sundown/Sabbath to come, Jesus was also dying on his torture stake (Luke 22:7; John1:29; 1Cor.5:7; Isa.53:7; John19:9). That was the afternoon following the memorial [and the same Jewish day (sundown to sundown) as the Memorial / Day of Preparation / first day of the week of Unfermented Cakes - first day of Passover Week (Luke22:1,8,13-15,19,29; Rev.5:9-10; Mark14:12; 15:42-43)]. (Mark14:12; 15:42-43; John19:14,31,42)
Jesus was buried in a tomb, before the Passover Sabbath (Nisan 14), even began (John19:31,33).

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As far as calculating when Nisan 13 takes place during this year,
I will review with you, the procedure as follows...

The way in which Nisan is calculated, is to find out when the Spring Equinox occurs. 
For this year (2020), it was Thursday March 19 at 11:49 p.m..
Then go to the schedule of the new moon for each month in your area, 
(Google search)
and find the new moon that occurred BEFORE the Spring Equinox.
For 2020, that would be Feb.23 at 10:32 a.m.. The remainder of that day (10:32am - sunset) belongs to the previous month.
This means that the last month of the Jewish year, starts at sunset on Feb.23rd.
That new moon, is the start of the last month of the Jewish calendar which Jesus observed.
Then find the next new moon. 
In 2020, the next new moon starts March 24, at 5:28 a.m..
Since the Jewish day runs from sundown to sundown; 5:28 a.m. is between the sundowns. 
Sundown March 23 to 5:28 am, belongs to the previous month. The new sundown of the new moon/month, will not occur until sundown March 24.
If the new moon occurs at an hour, after the sun has already set, then that 24 hour period (sunset to sunset) is still the last day of the last month. The fresh day, would start the following sunset.

For 2020, a fresh day for the new month, does not begin until sundown on March 24.
Nisan 1, runs from sundown March 24 to sundown March 25. Nisan 2 runs from sundown March 25 to sundown March 26, and so on.
Sundown March 24 starts the first day of the first month (Nisan) of the new Jewish year. 
Next, is to count 13 days from the starting evening of Nisan 1.
For my location, that brings the start of Nisan 13, to after sunset, on Sunday April 5, 2020.
This is when I intend to partake. It is up to each individual, to decide what they will choose to do.

If you have received miraculous proof of God's choosing you (Rom.8:16; Eph.4:4) to belong to the Bride of Christ, and wish to partake with us, 
please contact me using the contact form in the right side column of this Main Page.
If you desire to gain more scriptural information about who should partake, there are many posts which address that questions, from many angles. Please use the search box.

Sunday, March 22, 2020

God's Wrath

A comment with questions was left at the end of the post; "Various Topics"
Due to space restraints, I am posting the comment and my reply, in this post below.

COMMENT:
Many of the scriptural truths I've learned from your posts, Pearl, have been easier to grasp than the concept of Satan being the destroyer and not YHWH. The JW governing body have inculcated in the minds of their followers that YHWH is a bloodthirsty God, that is hard to remove from mind particularly when reading verses that use the word, "wrath." It does though make much better sense that God is not mischievously bloodthirsty, but IS love (1 John 4:8). 
For clarification so that I might fully grasp the term, "wrath"... the wrath of the Lamb and the wrath of God expressed in Revelation (Rev. 15:7Rev 6:16) are in harmony with Ex. 23:22 and Ps. 2:12 where it speaks of God blessing those who take refuge in him...blessing them spiritually (understanding of truths), correct? And is the understanding that God's wrath that comes upon those who are spiritually asleep or drunk, suddenly, as a thief in the night is his allowance of the harlot to be eaten alive by the wild beast along with all those who are also spiritually drunk, not loving the truth about God and his son?
Thanks for your patience as we sort out previous and false teachings! 
Rachel


MY REPLY:

Hello Rachel, 
Yes, it is hard to overturn, "strongly entrenched things" (2Cor.10:4-5). That is why Jesus told us that we need a new wine skin to hold new wine (Mark 2:22). Otherwise we will not be able to incorporate into our understanding and faith, the opening of the scrolls at the marriage feast (Rev.20:12; Matt.22:4,8-9,10; Rev.19:9).
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The Destroyer, certainly is Satan (Rev.9:11; Isa.33:1; John 10:10). 
Even though we know that Jesus gains the keys to Death and Hades (Rev.1:18), that does not mean that Satan never had that same authority over Death and Deception (Hades), previous to Jesus winning that authority and power away from the Devil (Heb.2:14; John 8:44; Gen.3:13; Rom.5:12; Rev.20:14). 
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-sheole-hades.html)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-has-key-to-abyss.html)

Let me take your referenced scriptures, and open them somewhat...
"Then one of the four living creatures gave to the seven angels seven golden bowls full of the wrath of God who lives forever and ever." (Rev.15:7)
Okay. First we must keep in mind that Revelation is written in symbolism.
The "FOUR LIVING CREATURES", are watchmen...
       (Isa.62:6; Rev.4:8,6; Mark 13:33-34 <(Lit."keep watch"); Matt.6:22; Luke 12:35,37; Rev.3:20; Luke 12:36; John 10:3) 
...covered with eyes (to watch). 

Eyes, stand for lamplight (Rev.4:6; Matt.6:22-23), which is understanding (2Cor.4:6; Eph.5:8,13; Ps.36:9).
The enlightened spiritual perception of these assigned watchmen, are charged with keeping vigil over God's nation. They are to identify any encroaching enemies (both outside and inside), alert the city when it's king is arriving, and sound the alarm / vital warning, when danger threatens (Rev.6:7-8). 
    [NOTE: Rev.6:7 properly reads; "Come AND SEE". 
    (https://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/rev6.pdf)
    (G991 - https://studybible.info/strongs/G991). 
    That fact makes more sense, of John's response to 
     the fourth living creature, shown in the next verse: Rev.6:8]
Such danger arrives, when Satan is released from the abyss, and he ignites the Great Tribulation (Matt.24:15-16), which results in Armageddon 
(Rev.20:7-8; 16:16,13-15; 17:14;  2Cor.10:3-4,5; Rev.13:10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:7).
  [https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html]

Next, we see that one of these four creatures, gives to seven angels, seven golden bowls.
Okay. First of all, the SEVEN ANGELS, are the prophets that are used, as Christ's 'right hand' messengers to the 'seven congregations' and household of God.
(Rev.1:20; Matt.5:15; Rev.10:7; 22:6; Ps.45:4; Rev.1:20). 
GOLDEN BOWLS, are hearts (Zech.13:9; Job 23:10; Jer.17:10; Ps.62:8; Prov.17:3).
Such fire-tested/refined hearts, are fit to speak for God 
(Isa.6:5-6,7;  1Thess.2:4; Luke 6:45). 

Until the time of the end, much understanding of what the prophets foretold, has been kept secret 
(Dan.12:9,4; Rev.10:4; Matt.13:16-17,35; John 16:12-13; Rom.16:25; Rev.10:7; 22:10). 
THE TIME ARRIVES for all the prophets, to "pour out their hearts" once again, so that their sealed up words of condemnation are heard, understood, and applied... poured out upon the "earth". That is a parallel to the scrolls being 'opened' (Rev.20:12).
 (John 12:48; 16:12-14; 14:26; Luke 24:45; Rev.10:7; 19:10;  1Cor.13:9-10). 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=symbolic+earth

Of course we know, that the ancient prophets are now dead. How then, can their voices once again be heard? 
How can their hearts, once again pour out God's condemnation? (Luke 6:45; Lam.2:19)
Well first we need to remember, that the prophets speak for God (Matt.10:20; Deut.18:18; Jer.29:19; 5:14; Rev.11:3,5; Eze.2:7). 
They are the ones that relate God's "wrath". 
If we look closer at the wrath, relayed by God's prophets...
is that something physical?...
or is that wrath, a verbal condemnation?
(Rev.11:3,5; Jer.5:14; 23:29) We know that the wrath poured out from the heart of a prophet, through his mouth...
is the condemnation of God...
not a physical murder.
How is it that the fourth living creature... gives a golden bowl to each of the prophets of God to pour out?

Even though those prophets are now dead, the last watchman can give them voice (Rev.10:3,7). Through the words of God, spoken through the prophets and recorded down for us in scripture... the last watchman can make those words, once again, be heard. He can give a voice to those prophets. They can once again, pour out their bowl of God's wrath (Rev.15:7).
I hope you can visualize this spiritual event, according to the knowledge which these symbols gives us.

Regarding your citation of Rev.6:16...
We can ask ourselves... how is it that those who seek shelter in "rocks and caves", also seek to avoid the condemnation/wrath of the Lamb? 
Jesus said that his own teachings, would be the basis of judgment (John 12:48). The law of Christ was love (John 13:34) and judgment is based upon, love for his own brothers (Matt.25:37-46). Those who try to hide from that fact, are those who have sought spiritual protection, among the powerful and prominent "Mountains/hills" (Rev.17:9) and hardened "Rocks" (Job 41:24; Zech.7:12) of the Gentiles. Do we not see that today? I will be writing more about this, in the future.
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Those condemned by the words of Jesus, would become manifested by the things they taught (Matt.12:37). Those who have misplaced their worship and service to God, have given it to a god of stone and wood (dead trees) (Rev.13:8; Rom.1:25). They feel self-righteous, and with their words they slander and condemn the righteous to death (Luke 12:45; Rev.17:6) 
(Matt.5:11-12; 10:22; John 15:18,20; Matt.26:65; John 16:2; Isa.66:5;  3John1:10; Rom.9:26; Rev.11:7-8,9-10). 

Does this not defy the Law of Jesus Christ, and rebel against his teaching?
Why then, would Jesus die for such ones (John 15:10,13-14)? 
Jesus is keeping a scroll of life (Rev.3:5; 13:8; 20:12; 21:27). He has a right to judge (John 5:22,27). Those found not fit, will not be written in his scroll of life. His wrath remains upon them (Rev.17:8; 20:15; Jer.23:29). 
That wrath, is condemnation, by means of God's Word (Rev.19:15; Heb.4:12; Isa.11:4). These thoughts are also in harmony with your citation of Ex.23:22 and Ps.2:12.

I hope that answers your questions.
If not, please reply.
Love in Christ,
Pearl


Friday, March 20, 2020

Various Topics

What follows is my response to various questions I received.
The words of the inquirer, are in blue.

My response: 

My memory is not so good anymore, so I'll go through your messages methodically, point by point. In this way, I hope to thoroughly address everything. If I ever miss something, please let me know. I'll put your words, in Blue.

"Something I had wondered about was if the baptism was invalid, especially considering they've changed it (what you are baptizing yourself into, contrary to Christs command), for the 3rd time in 2019.  (2014 was mine)."

Vows are binding. The baptism is valid. The problem lies in the fact that the vow is a dedication of one's life, to "Jehovah" and his organization, while the one being immersed, believes that they are becoming a slave of the true God. The vow spoken, is a voluntary declaration of idolatry. Their lack of knowledge will not be enough of an excuse to save them (Job 36:12; Prov.5:23; 10:21; Hosea 4:6)
If they had put scripture above doctrine, it would have shielded them from being mislead (2Thess.2:9-12). The only way to salvation for the mislead and fallen, is repentance
(2Cor.7:10; Luke 15:10; Acts 3:19; 17:30;  2Pet.3:9; Rev.3:3).
John the Baptist preached a baptism of repentance (Mark 1:4). Today we are washed clean, by accepting the Truth (Eph.5:25-26; John 17:17).

You then mention those who act self-important (self assuming - 2Tim.3:1-2,3-4,5) and treated you harshly and cut you off. You mention the hypocrisy of their emphasis being on donations. But then you say; "I can easily see how the beast will turn on the harlot based on the kinds of people who have overrun the organization "climbing the ladder".".
That kind of people have not, "overrun the organization". That kind of people, are, the organization. That is why the organization they comprise, is referred to, as a wild Beast 
(Rev.13:1; Ps.73:22;  1Cor.15:32;  2Pet.2:12; Jude 1:10; Isa.59:15) 
Any who are soft, loving, merciful, or do not give complete, unwavering compliance with how they are directed to preside over their charge, are removed from their position (Rev.13:4,15,17).

You then ask; "I guess I'll do a search on your site but wondered if you ever talked about the organization's baptism procedure & if that means anything for truth seekers.".
Yes, I hope you are able to find the many posts about baptism inside the Main Page blog, but there is also another blog-- (https://pearl-baptismvows.blogspot.com/). It's been over 9 years since I wrote it, so I'm sure that more could now be added. As time goes on, there is more to write. If you don't find what you need by using the search box, contact me.

You then ask; "how is it that you partake (memorial) as a group?".
I accept the direction of 1Cor.11:33 where it reads; "So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together." I partake with those who are verified by holy spirit, as genuine.

You then ask; "it seems the early Christians had something called love feasts, so some of the scriptures may be related to that? ". Obviously, a "love" feast would not be literal food, but spiritual food, shared among the members of the Body of Christ (1Cor.10:17; 12:7,25; Eph.4:15-16,11-12). 
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Now I will move ahead to your most recent letter....
Glad you grasp the meaning of "Jehovah". What a shock that one was for me. Credit for that refinement goes to another anointed brother (Paulo Vincentini) (hope I spelled it right). 

The next part of your letter makes some good points. You take the time to explain....
"One thing I find a little hard on another subject is not that Satan is the destroyer,  but how cooperative he appears to be, when he is God's Adversary. And even then only in some instances. Like I mean I understand how God allows things for both a testing and punishment, but for example for what benefit to himself would satan kill all 1st born in Egypt in cooperation with YHWH, especially when as a result YHWH's name would be magnified in all the earth?  Also wasn't there a point when YHWH told the stiff necked Israelites in the desert that he was sending an angel to lead them and to be careful "because his anger flares up in an instant"."
It is not due to a spirit of cooperation, that Satan destroys as God permits.
It is because, even the Devil and his demons, know God's supreme power, and the fact that no spirit dare cross, His specific demands (James 2:19; Ps.119:21; Job 26:10-11) 
When God gives permission to Satan to display and satisfy his destructive nature; even the faithful spirits fear to get in Satan's way... because they would be defying God's decree (Jude 1:9). Satan also is well aware of the consequence of defying the Almighty, and so Satan's blood-lust is curbed by God's justice. That is why we see Satan, pushing the boundaries of justice, in order to secure permission to destroy (Job 1:8-12; 2:3-6) 
It was in harmony with the purpose of God, for God to allow Satan to destroy the firstborn of Egypt (Ex.12:23; Heb.11:28). 
Please remember, that all are already judged, dead, and under Satan's power to destroy... unless they are saved by grace, which is the exception (John 3:18; Rom.5:12) 
Those not saved, are already, essentially, dead 
(John 5:24;  1John3:14; Eph.2:3; Col.1:13; John 1:4), and under the dominion of Satan (2Cor.4:4). 
If we keep that in mind, we realize that Satan's thirst for blood, is never satisfied (Prov.30:15-16;  1Pet.5:8). He knowingly caused the condemnation of every living creature, to spiritual darkness and death (Ec.3:19).  The length of one's lifespan matters little, in light of their eternal eventuality. 
This was the reality, regarding the firstborn of Egypt. Satan knows that he cannot stop God's supremacy, nor His glory from being manifested in the end. Satan's nature, is to lie, kill, and destroy (John 8:44; 10:10).
The angel that God sent to the Israelites (to guide and protect them) was not Satan. It was Christ/The Logos (John 8:58; 1:14; Ex.14:19-20;  1Cor.10:1-2,3-4).
What God actually said at Ex.23, was 
"20 ‘See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him. 22 If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.".
Regarding your saying that "his anger flares up in an instant", I believe you are referring to Psalm 2:12...
"Kiss his son, or he will be angry
    and your way will lead to your destruction,
for his wrath can flare up in a moment.
    Blessed are all who take refuge in him."
God's wrath will take many by surprise... not because God is impetuous and lacks self-control, but because that Day arrives suddenly, as a thief, to those who are spiritually asleep or drunk (1Thess.5:4,6-7; Mark 13:35-36) 

Wednesday, March 18, 2020

Addition to: "How to Pray" as follows...

ADDITION to post: "How to Pray", as follows:

Pearl,
In light of Stephen praying to Jesus, at Acts 7:59; is it proper to pray to Jesus?
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My Reply:
Imagine that Jesus is our father (Isa.9:6) and Yhvh is our grandfather.
[There is no distinction between fathers and grandfathers, in the bible (John8:39), so all ancestors, were called "Father". 
So when Jesus taught us to pray, he called his Father, our Father (Matt.6:9] even though in a sense, he is our grandfather, because Jesus is the direct father (Isa.9:6; John 1:4).

We have a relationship with both fathers. We also have a relationship with our spiritual mother (Gal.4:26;  1Thess.2:7; Gal.4:19).

When we have a loving relationship with those who are responsible for our care, do we not speak openly to each one of them?
There are times when we need to speak to our father...
other times when we want to speak directly to our grandfather (through the name of Jesus)...
and times when we need to talk with our mother.

It was the mindset of JWs, that gave us the rigid idea that we should be cut off from speaking to our mother and father... but only speak to our grandfather, by name (whose name belongs to the Destroyer).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/11/who-is-destroyer.html
How interesting! How well would a child do... who could not speak to it's parents... but only to an outside impostor who sought to mislead and destroy them?

My point, is that whoever it is that you need to speak with, that is the one you should pray to.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
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Sunday, March 15, 2020

Where Do We Go?

I received a letter of appreciation from a reader.
He is searching for spiritual provisions, outside the "Watchtower" (Dan.12:4,9-10,3), because he has recognized the present spiritual famine (Amos 8:11; Rev.18:8). Those considered wicked by God, do not gain understanding (Rev.22:10-11; Dan.12:10,4; Amos 8:12) (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10; 2:10; Mark 8:35; Ps.116:15; Rev.9:6; Amos 8:12). Only through God's grace, and a loyalty of a person toward the Word of God (Matt.13:11,13), will a person be rescued from demonic deception, and find the sayings of life.
Where do we find such sayings, today?
In this era of social media, many are offering spiritual provisions. How can we recognize the difference, between error and divine truth? How can we discern true prophets from false?
I will write some of the points made in his letter, and I will respond to them. I hope the information contained, is helpful to all readers.
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His letter to me:
"I assumed Pearl wasn't your real name, and if it isn't, I understand and respect your privacy.
I wonder if you've ever come across the Beroeans site? So far I've only browsed, just like I browse your website,  but it's obvious the people there especially Eric Wilson aka Meleti Vivlon (the person who set it up. 40 years ex elder) are roving about the Bible on the same level as you and your group. Meleti as he appears to prefer to be called, also has a YouTube channel. There's also a guy on YouTube whose channel is called isaiah-30v8 I think. He focuses a lot on Isaiah 66:5 and it eventually becomes very difficult to sit through his videos because of the pace and repetition. The measure by measure that he measures out, as he likes to say, is measured out too slow and gets buried under repetition, even at full double speed. I feel bad saying that but I can't not say it, as a warning. Point being that I can see and sense the sincerity of these people in particular and it would be nice if y'all became aware of each other other, if you haven't already. In fact, I really should try to sign up for your blog/forum and do the same for the Beroean's site. The reddit ex JW is immersed in the sea which roils and foams and tosses about, and I guess I will keep trying to throw lifelines but I definitely need the quiet place and true food of the wilderness and beroeans. Take care. (Please ask the father and our lord for satan to loosen his grip on me)."
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My Response:
[A note about my pen name, before I begin the body of this post:
Thank you for the common courtesy of respecting my privacy, regarding my online name. I don't mind explaining my pen name.
Pearl Doxsey is the name I was born with, before my marriage. "Pearl" is the meaning of my first name. For example, "Caoimhín" is the Celtic form of "Kevin". "Jose" is the Spanish form of "John", but it is "Sean" in Gaelic. Although names change from language to language... they are the same name, because they have the same meaning.
"Doxsey" is my father's family name, and the surname I was given at birth.
My husband previously used his own name, but then we were accused of hiding the fact that he was my husband, due to having different last names. 
Rather than me changing my well established online name or adding a new one (and be accused of covertly working as two people), he took my last name, in order to be upfront about our marriage, and not stumble anyone. 
When my mother passed away, I provided to some who were closer online associates, my mother's online obituary. Since she naturally had the same name Doxsey, (my maiden name) I was then accused of looking for sympathy by lying about her death, because of my husband having the same name. They reasoned and assumed that she could not be my mother, if my last name was my married (and husband's) last name. I guess you just can't please everyone. Some people's singular goal, is to slander and accuse... usually because they hate the truth, and those who present it. They should be more concerned with their standing with God, as they demonstrate before His face, their petty hatred (Matt.22:11-13; Col.3:14-15).]
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Yes, 
I have known those you mention in your letter, and others, for many years.
Many online activists, speak with great confidence about their own reasoning, opinion, and assertions. They draw followers, who are swayed by such reasoning. Is not the world full of so-called knowledge? If we are wise, we consider God as wiser than men. Jesus is clear about who it is that conveys God's wisdom to the world (Matt.5:14-15; Rev.1:20; Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3). God has always conveyed His message, through His prophets and priests (Amos 3:7; Mal.2:7). His primary messenger, is Jesus Christ (Rev.3:14; John 8:28; 6:66-69). Jesus gives us clear advice, as do his apostles, about who it is that provides a truthful source of learning. I would urge you to give priority, to considering the scriptures in the following link:


After you have read it, please consider, that I don't think Meleti Vivlon / Eric Wilson claims to be an anointed priest of God. (Mal.2:7; Rev.5:10;  1Cor. 4:1)
Robert King is not anointed (he claims to be, but does not fulfill the standard)...
When asked about his anointing experience; he expresses the source of his confidence, as being his desire to read the writings of the prophets. When a priest or king in Israel was chosen and anointed by God, that person went through an anointing. His position was not established by a desire to read. He also fails the test of Deut.18:20-22 as regards his assertion that he is a prophet/watchman. He foretold that the new World Headquarters of the "Watchtower", would never be completed.

Perimeno, also claims to be anointed, but his anointing story also, does not fulfill the Bible's standard of authenticity. 
He also teaches his followers to have patience, and remain inside the Beast, despite Jesus' own command to flee (Matt.24:15-16; Mark 13:14; Rev.18:4; Luke 17:28-30,31-32; 21:21-22). 
He believes JWs to be God's people, which is easily proven false, by Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet. 2:9-10 and many other scriptures.
Abe/ablebodiedman/(Isaiah-30v8), also claims to be anointed, though I do not know his story of that experience. I do not know if he was genuinely anointed or not, but I do know that he is now guided by his own overconfident thinking, rather than spirit, or a submission to the guidance of scripture. Like a vain man in front of a mirror, he is so enamored with his own "profound" conceptualizing, that he can't break free to consider anything outside himself. He has an exaggerated sense of his own wisdom. As a result, he denies the Body of Christ, and the gifts given to the other Body members for his building up (Eph.4:2-4,11-13,14-16; Rom.12:4-5). As a result, we consistently see from him... drawn out re-hashing of his own thoughts, and scriptures that point to his personal vindication... both of which prevent his growth within the Body of Christ (1Cor. 12:7,11,15-16,17-18,19-20,21,27-29). 
Like the "ten kings" who rule "one hour" with the Beast (Rev.17:12); he is in danger of returning to the organization, to bask in both the "Watchtower's" contrition, and the esteem from its condemned rebels (Rev.19:20; 20:10; 13:8; 20:15; 16:2; 14:9-11). 
(https://pearl-kingsofearth.blogspot.com)
Isa.66:5 (and Hosea 1:10) which is the verse of his obsession, is not speaking of Kingdom Halls, but rather, the place where speech originates, which is inside the heart (Luke 6:45; Matt.15:18-19).
I have repeatedly sent him the clear direction of scripture, in order for him to consider how it can enhance his perspective and adjust his practices. He rejects the direction of scripture, in favor of his own course. A genuine and faithful messenger of God, hears, listens, and heeds God's Words (John 8:47; Ps.119:105).
To substantiate with one example.... 
he insists on partaking alone. His reasoning, is from Rev.3:20. 
Is this referring to the memorial emblems, and therefore a Bible contradiction to 1Cor. 11:33? 
No. Jesus was referring to the meaning of John 6:63; 17:3 and Rev.2:17 (Luke 10:22). Jesus will share the opening of the scroll/marriage feast with any servant, who is found, awake. 
***(Mark 13:34; Luke 12:37,36; Rev.3:20; 2:17; John 6:58,51,55; Rev.19:9; John 6:63; Rev.22:17)*** --  (Rev.5:2,5; Dan.7:13; Rev.5:7; John 15:15; 16:15; 14:26)
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/unless-you-eat-my-flesh.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/symbolic-flesh-and-blood-invited-and.html
1Cor.11:33 reads;  "33 Therefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another."
Even the context of that verse makes clear, that partakers are to gather for the memorial. Why did the apostle Paul, say this? Why did they need to "wait for one another" and "come together", if not to partake as a unified body? 
1Cor.12 goes into detail, about how closely the members of the Body of Christ are to work together and care for each other. "Abe" insists on feeling too superior to even consider working toward a relationship with other anointed. When he fails to discern the Body of Christ (1Cor.11:29), he has lost union with it's Head (Col.2:19). He also, like Perimeno, considers the blasphemous "Watchtower" Beast, to be the materialization of Christ's kingdom, arrived. That is scripturally wrong on so many levels, but you will see that from scripture, if you continue to study. 

There are many others also, who deem themselves the genuine messengers of God. But it matters not what we may think of ourselves, or how reasonable or profound our human message may seem to be. What matters is who God Himself has really chosen, cleansed, and qualified, to trumpet His message in this time of the End. It is not that the vessel is anything of itself. Their import is only in the message they are assigned to relate, and it's Origin (Luke 17:10;  2Cor. 4:7). But it is crucial for those seeking the "proper food at the proper time", to identify the genuine and faithful. 
There are many in the wilderness that are legitimately attacking the "Watchtower". But that is not God's standard for His genuine prophets. Even the Beast and ten kings, develop a hatred for the harlot leadership (Rev.17:16; 19:17-18).

Of course it seems that all these previous false christs and false apostles (Matt.24:24-25), are lead by scripture, and teach accordingly (2Cor. 11:3-4,12-15; Rev.2:9; Rom.2:28-29; Acts 5:36). But didn't the "Watchtower" also seem to be so? Satan and his agents, often mix a concoction of truth and lies (Rev.8:10-11). Pure and obvious deception would not be an effective bait. Some truth must be used, in order to ensnare if possible, even the elect (Matt.24:24-25).

Please be cautious, because we are told that we cannot partake of both the deceptive table of demons, and at the same time, benefit from the table of the Lord (1Cor. 10:21). 
In order for our house of faith to be built on solid rock (Matt.7:24-27); we must identify those faithful, genuinely assigned by Jesus to feed his household (Luke 12:42)... those who base all their teaching and example of behavior, on the words of God and Christ. 
"By their fruit you will recognize them" (Matt.7:20). 
(1Cor. 11:18-19; Matt.24:6; Eph.5:11; Mal.3:18)
https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com )

Those who impersonate God's priests, by replacing them in their position to teach (Mal.2:7), are actually a fulfillment of the "disgusting thing, standing in the holy place/standing where it does not belong" (Matt.24:15; Mark 13:14). The "holy place", is God's Temple priesthood (1Pet. 2:5;  1Cor. 3:17). Those who subjugate, trample down, and usurp God's priests, will soon face Christ (2Thess. 2:3-4,8). 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/01/who-are-gods.html
Why is there an accounting for their actions? 
(2Cor. 11:15;  1Cor. 11:19; Matt.24:6;  2Chron. 16:9; Dan.9:26; Mark 13:14)
(https://pearl-sign.blogspot.com)
They compete with, criticize, and in some cases publicly condemn, those sanctioned by Christ to feed his sheep. In their proud ignorance, they foment confusion and resist the work of God's spirit, making the work of God's messengers, so much more difficult to do... and make it more difficult for those searching, to find and recognize the genuine, amid the confusion.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/02/abomination-causing-desolation.html

Of course, it is totally up to you, what spiritual food you choose to eat, and what standard in that regard, guides you. I do hope that your choice is guided by Christ and God, who clearly identify their genuine and faithful anointed priests, as well as their qualifications 
(John 15:16; Mal.2:7; Rev.5:9-10;  1Cor. 4:1; Luke 12:42; Rev.11:3-5; Jer.5:14). 
Pray for divine guidance in this.
Regarding our prayer for your endurance. Paula and I do pray for the redemption and salvation of God's elect, and their endurance through this great tribulation.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html
Each of us can learn from the example of Jesus, in how to cope with such torture (Heb.4:15). In the account of his own testing by Satan (Matt.4:1-11; Luke 4:1-13), Jesus repeatedly resorted to the guidance of the Word of God, found in the scriptures. If we do the same, we will not be overcome. We will find the path to victory (1John 2:13-14). 
If you want to share the nature of your trials, perhaps I can assist you in finding the scriptures that will help you.

Thank you again for reaching out to me.
Love in Christ,
Pearl

Wednesday, March 11, 2020

Sources of Persecution against the Holy Ones / Why must the faithful, die?

After a discussion surrounding the nature of current persecution within the WT organization against the Chosen Elect of God; and how that persecution is the means through which the anointed receive their sealI was asked the following questions:

1: “If the anointed need to be disfellowshipped (killed -John 16:2) in order to be sealed, then they would need to have been a part of false religion. What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?  

PREFACE:
Previous to the Chosen becoming mature/(sealed) into the full-grown stature of Christ (Eph.4:13-14;  1Cor.2:6,16; 13:11; 14:20; Phil.3:10), they are under the care of ("belong to") a steward/household manager (1Cor.4:1,15-16; Gal.4:1-2,19; Col.1:25; Luke 12:42). 
With spiritual growth (Heb.5:14; Col.1:28; Heb.12:23;  2Pet.1:4), comes the need for each individual to take a stand and die for the Truth 
(Mark 4:28-29; John 12:24;  1Cor.15:36; Mark 13:13; 8:35; Matt.25:6; Heb.13:13; Rom.6:5; Rev.6:9-11). 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/10/coming-to-life.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/symbolic-death-by-means-of-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/wheat-and-weed-seeds-grow-up-and-mature.html

That death is often sourced, with a wicked steward (Luke 12:45-46; 16:1-2).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-stewards-sacred-trust.html
https://pearl-wastefulsteward.blogspot.com/
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2018/01/by-this-love-among-yourselves-all-will.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/10/why-does-master-delay-luke1235-stay.html

We today, can come to recognize how that "death" is presently occurring. (see 8 links above)
The question now being asked, essentially is;
'How could the anointed who existed previous to the "Watchtower", become sealed by a death for truth?'

NOTE: There is a pattern for those who finish the course of Christ (Phil.3:10-12,16-17;  1Pet.2:21; Matt.16:24-25; Rom.6:5-6,7-8) and become sealed. 
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/search?q=becoming+sealed

The same destination of being sealed, has a path that varies between those who are sealed during the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Christ, and those sealed during the Great Tribulation (which occurs after the "Thousand Years"). 
This directly pertains to the question at hand, because the "thousand years" are before the emergence of the "Watchtower", and the Great Tribulation occurs when the "Watchtower" exists.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-day-and-night-of-thousand-years-two.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
(for more information about when the "thousand years" take place, please use the search box)

Those sealed during the "thousand years" and before Satan's release from the abyss (Rev.20:7) (and his subsequent installation of the False Prophet and it's Beast) (Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8; 13:1,4,11,14-15; 19:20)...
...were never conquered by those agents of Satan (Rev.20:4). 
Those who had been taken captive and conquered (Col.2:8; Rev.13:10,7) after Satan's release (and during the Great Tribulation), must repent, be washed clean, and ride forth with Christ in the battle against those agents of demonic deception (Rev.15:2; 2:26-27; 17:14;  2Cor.10:3-5; Eph.6:12).

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My reply:
Your two questions are at the apex of much information, which could have subsets of questions, beneath them. To be thorough, I will break those questions down, in my attempt to make a fuller reply, clear and comprehensible.
In order to accept some of the assertions to follow; background information will need to be researched and studied before it is accepted. 
In order to stick to the questions at hand, I will not include all that information here and now, but will insert links for those who deem the assertions, unproven by scripture. Please use the linked references, as needed.

1a: "Before the watchtower organisation"
Those with a knowledge of "Watchtower" history, are familiar with the idea that this organization started in the late 1800s. Although the organization itself, claims it's origin with God's first martyr Abel... due to it's claim of being God's collective of righteous witnesses (Matt.23:35; Heb.11:4; 12:24). 
...that claim is error. The general population of JWs, are not members of the "Chosen" Elect (Isa.43:10,21;  1Pet.2:9), nor were they all martyred on the altar of God's spiritual Temple, as were the group of martyrs to which Abel belonged (Rev.6:9-11; Heb.12:24).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/who-are-yhwhs-witnesses.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/who-become-gods-people.html

Regarding the origin of the "Watchtower", here are the facts:
The organization was formed in 1881 as Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society for the purpose of distributing religious tracts. The society was incorporated in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on December 15, 1884. In 1896, the society was renamed Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.
Founders: Charles Taze Russell
Place founded: Pittsburgh
And so, when you ask about the period "before the watchtower was organized", that would mean the period in which anointed existed, previous to the formation of the "Watchtower" organization.
That period would run between Pentecost 33CE (John 7:38-39; Acts 1:4-5,9; 2:1-2,3-4,32-33), to roughly around 1881.

With that period now clarified, we can move forward.

Next we need to grasp, that according to your question, there are two distinct periods during which, the anointed Chosen Elect members of God's Temple priesthood, exist. Both of those periods are previous to the arrival of God's eternal Kingdom.
Obviously, those two periods are 
1. 33 CE thru 1881,
and 
2. 1881 thru to the End (Rev.2:26;  1Cor.15:24-25;  2Thess.2:8;  1Cor.15:26; Rev.20:14-15;  1Pet.4:7;  2Pet.3:7,10-11,12-13)

Those two periods, coincide with two Bible periods...
1. The "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus Christ 
        [starts: 33CE - Ends: Birth of "Watchtower" kingdom over anointed]
2. Lifespan of "Watchtower" kingdom 
        [captivates and conquers the anointed, Gentiles trample God's Temple priesthood into powerlessness (the Great Tribulation) and 
         Armageddon. Ends: God's Kingdom)

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/04/two-kingdoms.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014_01_01_archive.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-thousand-years-image-of-beast.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-remaining-ones.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/05/he-who-seeks-to-save-his-life-will-lose.html
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https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/05/why-jesus-came-to-earth-last-world.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/02/two-witnesses-lampstands.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/12/here-is-earlier-post-with-updates.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/02/thought-from-friend-read-rev-184-again_9845.html

To summarize all major spiritual eras, in chronological order...
1. Creation TO Christ and the spiritual begetting of sons of God, including...
2. The "Thousand Year" reign of Christ.
3. Release of Satan from Abyss / end of "thousand years" / Satan's short period of time / 
    Great Tribulation + Armageddon / TO The End
4. Victory of Armageddon / Eternal Kingdom of God commences, 
    given to Jesus Christ and his Holy Ones

Your question pertains to eras 2 & 3.
How so?
---The period of anointed ones, before the "Watchtower", runs from Pentecost TO the end of the "Thousand Year" kingdom of Jesus and the release of Satan from the abyss (Rev.20:7).

https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/11/satans-release-how.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/what-happened-in-1914.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/08/who-has-key-to-abyss.html
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/06/i-have-found-typing-mistakes-below-and.html

---The period after which the "Watchtower" emerges, runs from Satan's release/Great Tribulation/Armageddon, TO the End of Satanic rule (and the start of God's Kingdom).

With this chronology establish, we can proceed with your question:
What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

The anointed always belong to the Body of Christ, which includes the steward appointed to feed that household (Rom.12:5; Eph.2:19; Matt.24:45). That steward can prove to be either faithful, or wicked (Matt.10:36; 24:48-49,50-51). Both the wicked and the righteous generations, exist throughout time (Gen.3:15; Matt.13:30; Rev.12:17,7)(Ps.112:2; Phil.2:15)... from Cain -vs- Abel, down to the "Two witnesses"/last chaste Virgins -vs- the last adulterous Harlot/"two-horned" false prophet (Rev.13:11; Isa.28:15)(Rev.14:4-5). It is an enmity without rest, until the final battle is won.
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/spiritual-virginity-what-is-it.html

The wicked appear rich, powerful, and glorious. 
The faithful, appear despised, weak, and foolish 
 (1Cor.4:8-10,11-13; Rev.3:17-18;  2Cor.11:3-5,12-15,23-25,26-27,28,29-30; 12:9-10; 13:4)
Why those contrasting appearances?
Who is it, that rules over the desire of the eyes? Who is it that bestows worldly glory, dominion, power, and riches?
The unfaithful have a respectable appearance, because they have failed the test of Satan (Luke 4:5-7). In contrast, the faithful, are given the glory of Christ (John 17:22).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2014/12/glory.html

The wicked are the ones with worldly power, authority, and glory. Like the Jewish religious leaders; they are the ones responsible for the slaughter of the faithful (Matt.23:37,32,34-35; Rev.18:24; 6:10; 19:2). This has been going on, since Cain and Abel (1John 3:12; 2:9-11; 4:20-21).

As we learned above about the maturation of the sons of the kingdom... it takes time in the individual life of each chosen one, to reach the full grown stature of Christ, which entails a death for truth. While still a babe, such ones are under the stewardship of the wicked and powerful... similar to how Jesus was (Gal.4:4; Luke 2:46,50-52; John 1:11). 
As such ones grow to recognize the umbrella of corruption they are under; their truth-loving heart chaffs under the unjust oppression and deceptive doctrine (Eph.5:11; Rev.2:2-3;  2Cor.11:12-13; Ps.26:4; Eph.4:25). They no longer wish to condone the climate of rebelliousness toward God (Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3). They long to establish their loyalty and love for their heavenly Father and the truths of Jesus Christ 
(2Cor.10:3-5; Rev.19:11,14,8; 12:10-11; 17:14).
The result? 
They faithfully follow the path of Jesus, all the way to it's inevitable end... a death for truth. They become sealed as slaves to God alone.

There is no shortage of that wicked generation (Matt.23:33,36; Phil.2:15; John 8:44). But Jesus assures us, that if we seek them out, we will also be able to identify the righteous generation (Ps.14:5; 112:2; Matt.24:34; 7:20)... and those appointed by Jesus (Luke 12:42; Rev.11:3), who are faithful in providing the proper food at the proper time. 
https://pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/10/who-really-is.html

We can recognize them, by their lasting fruit, and their fulfilling the sign of the Son of Man (Matt.12:40; 24:28; Rev.11:7-8).
https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-sign-of-son-of-man.html

So again I post your question;
"What about before watch tower was organized? Who did the anointed have to belong to then?

Before the "Watchtower" organization was formed; those anointed striving to be faithful, would need to divorce themselves from the powerful religious corruption surrounding them. We have within historical accounts, many who lived that pattern of both corruption and faithfulness.


The point that I hope was gleaned, is that in order to reign with Jesus, they Chosen must also prove faithful to the death, while being sifted by Satan their enemy. That is why they need to die in order to be sealed (Rev.6:9-11; Mark 8:35; Rev.12:10-11). 

This proves that despite Satanic temptation and persecution, their love of Christ and his truths, are more important to them than their own lives... just as was the case with Jesus. By manifesting that love in their righteous actions and choices (despite threat of death), they are sealed as slaves of God and qualified to inherit the Kingdom.

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