This post has been refined, to accommodate the additional details provided by Zechariah, chapter 4.
QUESTION:
Dear Pearl,
I prayed about the "two witnesses" and all of the remaining ones of the woman's seed to come out of the org; how surely there must be more anointed ones to join us. When asking for direction, I turned to Acts 12 and read about Barnabas and Saul.
..."the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Acts 13:2). I started equating these scriptures to the two witnesses, the whole account. We speak firstly to the chosen ones, then to the spiritual Gentiles; the Gentiles who listened to Paul and Barnabas became great in number. Acts 13:46,47
Is this the way it will be now? It is the spiritual Gentiles that are more willing to listen than the chosen because of the heart condition? This also makes me think of the invitation to the wedding feast (Matt.22:8-9).
MY REPLY:
I hope your own consideration of these scriptures, afford insight for you, as they afforded to me. The answers can be right before us within a scripture. But without spirit, we can't yet see it.
I thank God for the merciful illumination of His Light!
Rev.11:3 "And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” (Ps.52:8; Zech.4:3,11)/("stars"), with the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth."
Rev.1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels (olive trees) of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."
When the truths set forth in those two verses are combined, it seems plain to me that the "Two witnesses"/angels/olive trees/stars, (who are on each side of two lampstands), which lampstands are, two churches/congregations.
Now for a full understanding, more scriptures must be considered. But for a simplified reply, the "two witnesses"/olive trees, are angels to the lampstands/ "churches"/"congregations", of holy ones/anointed (1Cor. 14:33; 1Pet. 2:10,9,5; 1Cor. 3:16).
But in addition...
each congregation has over it, a "star"/messenger/angel/steward/prophet
(Rev.1:20; Luke 12:42-43; 21:25,26; Rev.12:4 <"third"; Zech.13:9; 1Pet. 2:10,9)
to provide provisions ("food"/"light"/"springs of water"), to his contemporary congregation.
Now this should be seen in one's minds eye.
Imagine a lampstand (congregation).
It is useless without a flame being lit at it's top.
When a flame is added to the stand, the lampstand supports that flame.
By doing so, all in the house, receive light (Matt.5:15).
Jesus says that to each lampstand/congregation, a trumpeting "star"/prophet is given (Rev.1:20; 8:2; 10:7; 22:6)
from his "right hand" (Ps.17:7; 18:35; 45:4; Rev.19:11,14; 17:14; John 14:12; 7:39).
Does not a star give off burning light?
(Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3)
Is the "flame"/spirit, of each "lampstand"/congregation, it's "star"/messenger/angel?
Is the "spirit of the prophets"/"fire", from their mouths, and in the light/spirit. in their perception/eye/lamp...
(Jer.1:9; 23:29; Rev.11:5; Heb.1:7) (2Pet. 1:21; Rev.22:6),
...the spirit/"flame" each faithful congregation of holy ones, supports?
I think an answer to this lies at Rev.8:10-11.
Firstly, we know that a false prophet exists (Rev.19:20; 13:11,15; Luke 16:1-2).
I believe that this false prophet/unfaithful steward/fallen "star", is spoken of at Rev.8:10-11, and that these verses describe for us, how that wicked steward, appeared onto the scene. What it says, will help with understanding the equivalence between "star" and "flame"...
"10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter."
In my own mind, this confirms, that the flame upon the "lampstand", is it's "star"/prophet.
In the case of "Wormwood", that steward became wicked/false, and as a result of it's "fall" (Rev.2:5; Isa.14:12-15; 2Pet. 2:1-3; 3:17; 2Cor. 11:14-15; 1Cor. 10:12),
it's "springs of waters"/"wine" became the venom of vipers (Deut.29:18; 32:32-33) (winepress) (Rev.20:7; Job 3:8-9).
That "eye"/prophet/steward/flame, of Christ's Body/Congregation/lampstand, (1Cor. 12:21,27),
became darkened/"bad"/"sick" (Matt.6:23; Rom.1:21; Eph.4:18; John 12:40),
so that the "whole body"/congregation under that steward,
became "full of darkness"
(Luke 11:34-36; Rev.3:17-18; Matt.15:14; Isa.9:16; Eze.14:10)
(eye-salve) (pluck-out-eye).
[scriptures to show that the Body of Christ, is the congregation of holy ones/the church (Eph.5:23; Col.1:24).]
The "two witnesses" are all those gleaned from the last "two congregations", who accept the light granted to those last "two" prophets...
by hearing what the spirit of the prophets, says to the congregation under/beside it (Rev.2:29; Matt.11:15-17; Mark 4:8-9,11)
(Rev.1:20; 2:29; 22:6; 1Cor. 14:32-33; Rev.2:29).
So while primarily, the truth being expounded and declared is being accomplished by those congregations/lampstands;
the light they carry forth is coming from their "olive trees"/"stars"/flames/tongues of "fire" (Rev.11:5),
which those able to "hear", are supporting (Rev.22:17; Heb.6:10).
Therefore, anyone "hearing" and preaching truth in the time of the end, belongs to the "Two lampstands" / "Two Congregations" of holy ones, and any Gentiles who "hear" and choose to support the last "two" prophets/"stars"/"olive trees".
As a result, the work of the two prophets..."Moses and Elijah" (Matt.17:3),
is being carried forth throughout the earth, through those "two congregations"/"lampstands"
("two", meaning truthful -John 8:17).
The work of "Moses" preaches a release from captivity to "Egypt" (Rev.11:8), a testing in the wilderness outside the City, and a sorting/sifting out of those fit for the coming land of inheritance (1Cor. 10:5-6,11; Rom.15:4). During Moses' time, there is an attack by serpents, manna from heaven is received (Rev.2:17), a rock is split to provide water (Eze.36:25-27; John 7:38-39; Zech.3:8-9), and a sea is parted by the wind of spirit (Ex.14:21) (Rev.12:15; John 20:22; Luke 10:19; 21:15; Isa.54:17; 58:11-12), so that those fleeing can cross over to safety.
The work of "Elijah" preaches a restoration of the bond between God's elect,
and their Fathers (Matt.17:11; Luke 1:16-17; Isa.61:3-4). (elijah-turns-hearts)
Without the restoration of those bonds...
demonic teachings, cloudy eyes, lying hands, darkness, wormwood waters, sin, and death,
(1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:14-16; 2:20; 13:11,15; Amos 5:18,20)
will take away all the "earth"/homeland of God.
(world-earth-home) (earth-swallows-satans-river)
This is why Jesus causes these "two witnesses" to prophesy (Rev.11:3),
for the sake of a late crop/remnant
(Rev.20:5; Amos 7:1; Rev.7:9,13-14; Isa.1:9; 37:32; Ezra 9:8; Eze.14:22; Luke 13:23-24; Matt.24:22; 19:25-26; Isa.37:32) (second-resurrection),
which still contains a blessing (Isa.65:8; Joel 2:14) (John 15:4-5; Luke 21:36; 12:37; Prov.1:23).
Regarding Acts 13:46-47;
As is clear in Revelation; the majority of God's people fail God's final inspection of His nation (Rom.9:27; Rev.13:7-8).
The "marriage feast" is then open to all those "leaving the City", who accept the invitation and show due honor to their hosts. That invitation is extended to spiritual Gentiles (Matt.22:10; Rev.22:17; 19:9; 22:6).
("Jew" / "Gentile")
I hope that the spirit granted us, addresses your question about both the identity of the "two witnesses" that prophesy (Rev.11:3), to the "two lampstands"/"two congregations" under the "two prophets" whose traits are embodied in Moses and Elijah. (Rev.11:4; 1:20; Matt.17:3),
and the next post to follow, about "plucking out the 'eye' ".
As with all truth, they are related.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
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QUESTION:
Dear Pearl,
I prayed about the "two witnesses" and all of the remaining ones of the woman's seed to come out of the org; how surely there must be more anointed ones to join us. When asking for direction, I turned to Acts 12 and read about Barnabas and Saul.
..."the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." (Acts 13:2). I started equating these scriptures to the two witnesses, the whole account. We speak firstly to the chosen ones, then to the spiritual Gentiles; the Gentiles who listened to Paul and Barnabas became great in number. Acts 13:46,47
Is this the way it will be now? It is the spiritual Gentiles that are more willing to listen than the chosen because of the heart condition? This also makes me think of the invitation to the wedding feast (Matt.22:8-9).
MY REPLY:
I hope your own consideration of these scriptures, afford insight for you, as they afforded to me. The answers can be right before us within a scripture. But without spirit, we can't yet see it.
I thank God for the merciful illumination of His Light!
Rev.11:3 "And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” (Ps.52:8; Zech.4:3,11)/("stars"), with the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth."
Rev.1:20 "The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and of the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels (olive trees) of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."
When the truths set forth in those two verses are combined, it seems plain to me that the "Two witnesses"/angels/olive trees/stars, (who are on each side of two lampstands), which lampstands are, two churches/congregations.
Now for a full understanding, more scriptures must be considered. But for a simplified reply, the "two witnesses"/olive trees, are angels to the lampstands/ "churches"/"congregations", of holy ones/anointed (1Cor. 14:33; 1Pet. 2:10,9,5; 1Cor. 3:16).
But in addition...
each congregation has over it, a "star"/messenger/angel/steward/prophet
(Rev.1:20; Luke 12:42-43; 21:25,26; Rev.12:4 <"third"; Zech.13:9; 1Pet. 2:10,9)
to provide provisions ("food"/"light"/"springs of water"), to his contemporary congregation.
Now this should be seen in one's minds eye.
Imagine a lampstand (congregation).
It is useless without a flame being lit at it's top.
When a flame is added to the stand, the lampstand supports that flame.
By doing so, all in the house, receive light (Matt.5:15).
Jesus says that to each lampstand/congregation, a trumpeting "star"/prophet is given (Rev.1:20; 8:2; 10:7; 22:6)
from his "right hand" (Ps.17:7; 18:35; 45:4; Rev.19:11,14; 17:14; John 14:12; 7:39).
Does not a star give off burning light?
(Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3)
Is the "flame"/spirit, of each "lampstand"/congregation, it's "star"/messenger/angel?
Is the "spirit of the prophets"/"fire", from their mouths, and in the light/spirit. in their perception/eye/lamp...
(Jer.1:9; 23:29; Rev.11:5; Heb.1:7) (2Pet. 1:21; Rev.22:6),
...the spirit/"flame" each faithful congregation of holy ones, supports?
I think an answer to this lies at Rev.8:10-11.
Firstly, we know that a false prophet exists (Rev.19:20; 13:11,15; Luke 16:1-2).
I believe that this false prophet/unfaithful steward/fallen "star", is spoken of at Rev.8:10-11, and that these verses describe for us, how that wicked steward, appeared onto the scene. What it says, will help with understanding the equivalence between "star" and "flame"...
"10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter."
In my own mind, this confirms, that the flame upon the "lampstand", is it's "star"/prophet.
In the case of "Wormwood", that steward became wicked/false, and as a result of it's "fall" (Rev.2:5; Isa.14:12-15; 2Pet. 2:1-3; 3:17; 2Cor. 11:14-15; 1Cor. 10:12),
it's "springs of waters"/"wine" became the venom of vipers (Deut.29:18; 32:32-33) (winepress) (Rev.20:7; Job 3:8-9).
That "eye"/prophet/steward/flame, of Christ's Body/Congregation/lampstand, (1Cor. 12:21,27),
became darkened/"bad"/"sick" (Matt.6:23; Rom.1:21; Eph.4:18; John 12:40),
so that the "whole body"/congregation under that steward,
became "full of darkness"
(Luke 11:34-36; Rev.3:17-18; Matt.15:14; Isa.9:16; Eze.14:10)
(eye-salve) (pluck-out-eye).
[scriptures to show that the Body of Christ, is the congregation of holy ones/the church (Eph.5:23; Col.1:24).]
The "two witnesses" are all those gleaned from the last "two congregations", who accept the light granted to those last "two" prophets...
by hearing what the spirit of the prophets, says to the congregation under/beside it (Rev.2:29; Matt.11:15-17; Mark 4:8-9,11)
(Rev.1:20; 2:29; 22:6; 1Cor. 14:32-33; Rev.2:29).
So while primarily, the truth being expounded and declared is being accomplished by those congregations/lampstands;
the light they carry forth is coming from their "olive trees"/"stars"/flames/tongues of "fire" (Rev.11:5),
which those able to "hear", are supporting (Rev.22:17; Heb.6:10).
Therefore, anyone "hearing" and preaching truth in the time of the end, belongs to the "Two lampstands" / "Two Congregations" of holy ones, and any Gentiles who "hear" and choose to support the last "two" prophets/"stars"/"olive trees".
As a result, the work of the two prophets..."Moses and Elijah" (Matt.17:3),
is being carried forth throughout the earth, through those "two congregations"/"lampstands"
("two", meaning truthful -John 8:17).
The work of "Moses" preaches a release from captivity to "Egypt" (Rev.11:8), a testing in the wilderness outside the City, and a sorting/sifting out of those fit for the coming land of inheritance (1Cor. 10:5-6,11; Rom.15:4). During Moses' time, there is an attack by serpents, manna from heaven is received (Rev.2:17), a rock is split to provide water (Eze.36:25-27; John 7:38-39; Zech.3:8-9), and a sea is parted by the wind of spirit (Ex.14:21) (Rev.12:15; John 20:22; Luke 10:19; 21:15; Isa.54:17; 58:11-12), so that those fleeing can cross over to safety.
The work of "Elijah" preaches a restoration of the bond between God's elect,
and their Fathers (Matt.17:11; Luke 1:16-17; Isa.61:3-4). (elijah-turns-hearts)
Without the restoration of those bonds...
demonic teachings, cloudy eyes, lying hands, darkness, wormwood waters, sin, and death,
(1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:14-16; 2:20; 13:11,15; Amos 5:18,20)
will take away all the "earth"/homeland of God.
(world-earth-home) (earth-swallows-satans-river)
This is why Jesus causes these "two witnesses" to prophesy (Rev.11:3),
for the sake of a late crop/remnant
(Rev.20:5; Amos 7:1; Rev.7:9,13-14; Isa.1:9; 37:32; Ezra 9:8; Eze.14:22; Luke 13:23-24; Matt.24:22; 19:25-26; Isa.37:32) (second-resurrection),
which still contains a blessing (Isa.65:8; Joel 2:14) (John 15:4-5; Luke 21:36; 12:37; Prov.1:23).
Regarding Acts 13:46-47;
As is clear in Revelation; the majority of God's people fail God's final inspection of His nation (Rom.9:27; Rev.13:7-8).
The "marriage feast" is then open to all those "leaving the City", who accept the invitation and show due honor to their hosts. That invitation is extended to spiritual Gentiles (Matt.22:10; Rev.22:17; 19:9; 22:6).
("Jew" / "Gentile")
I hope that the spirit granted us, addresses your question about both the identity of the "two witnesses" that prophesy (Rev.11:3), to the "two lampstands"/"two congregations" under the "two prophets" whose traits are embodied in Moses and Elijah. (Rev.11:4; 1:20; Matt.17:3),
and the next post to follow, about "plucking out the 'eye' ".
As with all truth, they are related.
Love in Christ,
Pearl
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Rev 1:20 NASB - 20 “As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."
ReplyDeleteThe Anointed used by Christ are in HIS right hand...and not branded on the hand 666. So not all Anointed automatically are in Christ's right hand,used by Him. Many are branded 666 and cannot be used by Him and be in His right hand. Those Anointed branded 666,are directed by the GB,not Christ. Rev12:7 highlights that the War within Anointed Heaven,has Anointed who are Angel/messengers of satans lies. So These are not in Christ's right hand telling the truth,even though Anointed.
Luke 12:42-43 "And the Lord said, “Who then is the faithful and sensible steward, whom his master will put in charge of his fnservants, to give them their rations at the proper time?43 “Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes."
If all Anointed are faithful,then Christ would not have asked the question about Anointed. If all were faithful,then it would automatically be assumed ALL Anointed would be doing what Christ asks.
The "two witnesses" are not all Anointed. They are Chosen by Christ from within Anointed as a group because many Anointed would not be faithful. So not all Anointed claiming to give spiritual light,actually have it,even though Anointed...like the GB. That many Anointed are angel/messengers of satan,proves we need to ask the question Jesus did in Luke 12. “Who then is the FAITHFUL" Anointed in this time period? Many will not be.
3. What are the figurative meanings of the “stars,” “angels,” and “golden lampstands” that the apostle John beheld?
ReplyDelete3 John beheld the glorified Jesus Christ, who “holds the seven stars in his right hand” and who “walks in the midst of the seven golden lampstands,” or congregations. The “stars” are “the angels of the seven congregations.” (Revelation 1:20; 2:1) Stars sometimes symbolize angelic spirit creatures, but Christ would not use a man to record messages for spirit creatures. Hence, these “stars” logically denote spirit-anointed overseers, or bodies of elders. The term “angels” relates to their role as messengers. Because God’s organization has grown, “the faithful steward” has also appointed qualified men of Jesus’ “other sheep” as overseers.—Luke 12:42-44; John 10:16.
4. How do elders benefit from paying attention to what Christ says to the congregations?
4 The “stars” are in Jesus’ right hand—within his power, control, favor, and protection. Therefore, they are accountable to him. By heeding his words to each of the seven congregations,
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The trampling of Jahs temple,is justified by lying explanations as above. Im sure the beast/elders love to hear they are appointed and used by Christ. No wonder they DF anyone who exposes their power base as lies!
There is a counterfeit priesthood of "Gentiles", in the time of the end. Rev.2:9; Rom.2:28-29; Col.2:11; Rom.8:9; Eph.2:6; Jer.7:4 (2Thess.2:4; Rev.11:2).
DeleteThey are not the genuine Temple (Eph.2:19-22; 4:11-16; 1Cor.12:18,28; 1Pet.2:5,9-10; 1Cor.3:16; Heb.8:4-5; 12:22-23; Rev.5:9-10)
We see "the abomination of desolation" now standing in the holy place (Matt.24:15; Ps.79:1; Lam.1:10; Eze.44:6-9; Dan.8:10-12,24-25; 11:31,36; 2Thess.2:4). (http://pearl-disgustingthing.blogspot.com)
By setting up this "operation of error", they blaspheme God. They usurp, rebel against, trample, and defy His genuine Kingdom of Christ and his underpriests/Bride (Isa.37:23; Rev.17:3; 13:1,5-8). They slay/disfellowship and scorn, those faithful and loyal to God, and will be judged as "goats" (Matt.25:44-46). Their destruction will not be late.