A question I was sent, as follows:
"Dear Pearl, The only people who I can find in the bible who definately
went house to house were Herod's soldiers looking for Jesus as a child, and
Saul (before he became Paul), in order to kill Christians. Jesus said in
Luke 10:7 to his disciples not to be transferring from house to house,
though Jw's hardly ever cite this scripture when justifying the preaching
work, but use scriptures in Acts which according to a footnote in one of
their translations, where they translate "house to house" the original
Greek is properly translated “in every house”, “at home” or “in their
homes”. Some authorities believe Paul is talking about preaching to those
who were already Christians, not unbelievers . Would not Satan use an
organisation that really is indistinguishable from the real truth? What
better way to trap true Christians than to get them into the "JWorg" and then
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's
hard to get it out of your sytem entirely?"
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html)
"Dear Pearl, The only people who I can find in the bible who definately
went house to house were Herod's soldiers looking for Jesus as a child, and
Saul (before he became Paul), in order to kill Christians. Jesus said in
Luke 10:7 to his disciples not to be transferring from house to house,
though Jw's hardly ever cite this scripture when justifying the preaching
work, but use scriptures in Acts which according to a footnote in one of
their translations, where they translate "house to house" the original
Greek is properly translated “in every house”, “at home” or “in their
homes”. Some authorities believe Paul is talking about preaching to those
who were already Christians, not unbelievers . Would not Satan use an
organisation that really is indistinguishable from the real truth? What
better way to trap true Christians than to get them into the "JWorg" and then
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's
hard to get it out of your sytem entirely?"
MY REPLY:
Since you list a number of perspectives, just as I have written about them,
(-house to house is a prophetic and thorough search for the "firstborn"
(Rev.12:17; Matt.2:18; Rev.13:7; 11:7; 6:9-11),
which God allows -Luke 22:31; Prov.27:11; Rev.12:10-11; John 16:2; Mark 8:35...
especially if and when His people are sinning and require discipline --
(Isa.51:23; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:22,24; Rev.13:10,7; Amos 9:9; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; Rev.3:18; Mal.3:1-3)
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html)
I will assume that you have repeated my written assertions, in order to lay them as a groundwork for your questions.
I do not however, follow your reasoning that follows, and will explain, why.
You state;
"What better way to trap true Christians than to get them into the "JWorg" and then
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's hard to get it out of your system entirely?"
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's hard to get it out of your system entirely?"
I would think it's obvious, that "true Christians" would not be drawn into an organization which required it's members to accept the overt doctrine, that they were not Christians, have no mediator, are not the recipients of God's Word, and are not the ones God intended to become one spirit in marriage covenant with Christ (1Cor.10:16; Matt.20:23; Rom.8:36; 6:5; Mark 8:35).
As we both know; a more accurate description of what "JW's" are taught,
is:
Regarding -- "NOT CHRISTIANS":
-Is it really taught to "JW's" that they are not Christians? Or rather, is it taught that there are Christian disciples of two sorts? There is a difference between spiritual Jews and spiritual Gentiles (Rom.2:28-29; Rev.2:9; 3:9) (Link - "Jew/Gentile"), just as there is a difference between those of the "earth" (Rev.13:11), the "heavens" (Eph.2:6; Luke 10:20; Rev.12:12), and of the "sea" (Rev.13:1; Isa.57:20), through which creatures, the truth may come to "feed" others
(Mark 6:41; Matt.22:8-10; Rev.22:17) (Isa.66:20-21).
"All sorts" can be disciples of Christ (1Tim.2:4; John 8:31)
As you can see from the cited scriptures above, that spiritual distinction, is true.
Yet both spiritual Jew and spiritual Gentile, can both be disciples of Christ,
Yet both spiritual Jew and spiritual Gentile, can both be disciples of Christ,
(Gal.3:28, is speaking of nationality according to the flesh)
Regarding -- "NO MEDIATOR":
-As we know, there is "one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ" (1Tim.2:5).
Do you assume that all human beings, are considered by God, to be His definition of "men"?
(Gen.1:26; Luke 3:38; Eph.5:1; 2Cor.6:18; Rom.8:14) --
(Hosea 1:9; John 8:41-44; Matt.23:33; Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3; 2Pet.2:12; Jude 1:10; Rev.13:1,11).
Even without a consideration of God's Words cited above,
surely you know that Christ is not a mediator for the unrepentant and defiant wicked?
Who is to set the standard, of wickedness? Is it not God?
Men may be deemed by God as among those deserving of death, and not even know it (Hosea 4:6; John12:35).
Many who believe themselves to be slaves of God, are mistaken, and will be condemned by Christ (Matt.7:21,23).
Why?
Because just as Jesus said... they refuse to accept and perform "the will of God", stubbornly imagining,
that their own desires, will, and deduced convictions, are a sufficient substitute.
They do not know God, His truth, and His purposes, as well as they assume they do (1Tim.1:7).
That scourge is not unique to "JW's".
--- It is a fact purported by Jesus Christ himself,
that he has appointed angelic priests and kings to serve under him. Their service is defined in scripture as serving and healing God's nation
(John 1:51; Col.3:23-24; Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22-23; John 15:8; Rev.22:2), which healing only comes to disciples who obey Christ by fleeing the corruption (Matt.24:16; Eze.36:8).
It is the foremost service of Zion, to "feed my sheep" (John 21:17). It is a fact, that Christ appoints (anoints for a purpose -John 15:16; Rev.11:3-4; Zech.4:14)
those whom he chooses and appoints to accept that task (Luke12:42-43; Heb.13:17).
They may prove faithful, or not. Those "mountains" which provide "fruit", are not the obedient of the nations, which eat it and are healed.
Paul described his apostolic and prophetic appointment (the foundation of God's "Temple" (Eph.2:20; 1Cor.3:10), as being
"ambassadors, substituting for Christ" as pillars among messengers of God (2Cor.5:20; Matt.10:20; Jer.23:29; Rev.11:5). Paul spoke of himself as being in the role of spiritual "mother" to other Christians (1Thess.2:7; Gal.4:19; 1Pet.2:2). Do you know why? (Gal.4:26; Rev.12:2; John 16:20-21).
Do you assume that mother and child, are the same identity? Not all Christians become Christ's bride, and mother to the new creation. Some Christians, are the result of that union.
Regarding -- "BIBLE NOT MEANT FOR THEM":
Do you really think this is the impression "JW's" are given?
I was one for 35 years, while intimidated into dismissing my miraculous anointing. As a "rank and file", there was constant pressure to conform one's life to their interpretation of scripture.
I assume you speak of the idea, that there is a group, chosen by God to "receive"/"hear"/understand as an opened book... the Word of God.
(Luke 8:10; 24:32,45; Rev.3:8; 4:1; 5:2-3,6-7; John 16:15.13,8; 15:15).
The faithful who have God's approval (1Cor.11:19; 1:10; Eph.4:15-16), are free of the confusion, which is rife among religions, groups, and individuals which claim to accurately interpret the Bible, and consider themselves, Christians.
Well... what Did Jesus say about those for whom the Word of God was primarily intended?
He quoted Psalm 82:6, at John 10:35. Let's learn what those two scriptures teach us...
He quoted Psalm 82:6, at John 10:35. Let's learn what those two scriptures teach us...
"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' " (Ps.82:6) (gods/spirit sons/men, in God's image)
"If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--
and Scripture cannot be set aside" (John10:35) (spirit beings born of God, who are sent God's Word)
(Rom.8:9; 1Pet.1:23; Eph.2:6; Rev.12:1; Gal.4:26)
Do you discern that there are "gods" whom God considers His sons, who are sent the Word of God?
Are all, "sons of God"? (Gal.3:29,26; Rev.21:7)(Isa.30:9; 63:10; Hosea 1:9) Do all, walk by spirit? (Rom.8:14) (Acts 7:51-52)
(who-are-gods)
(who-are-gods)
There are four baptisms into Christ, are there not?
There is literal water, there is spirit, there is fire, and there is death.
Do you know why?... and who each baptism, is for?
Not all God's Words, are regarding any of those baptisms.
I hope you are open-minded enough, to keep learning.
Regarding -- "PARTAKERS ARE EMOTIONALLY UNBALANCED":
No blanket statement about those who choose to partake, can possibly be accurate to describe all those who do... either by positive or negative description.
The only positive reason to partake,
is that one discerns
--the identity of the body of Christ/God's Temple/God's handiwork
--the purpose and individual members of that body (apostles, prophets, etc.)
--the reality that one has been chosen by God, to be a member of that body
If one does not discern that body (and their exclusion or inclusion regarding it),
then they partake unworthily, and come under the condemnation which results. (1Cor.11:27-29,30-31)
(discerning-body)
(discerning-body-god-of-order)
(Who should partake?)
(discerning-body)
(discerning-body-god-of-order)
(Who should partake?)
Why is condemnation the result of not discerning the relationship between the body and ones self?
If the emblems represent a joining to Christ as those in a marriage covenant with him (Matt.26:28; 1Cor.10:16; Eph.5:25)...
and others assume they too have been chosen to join with Christ;
that is equivalent to committing spiritual adultery with someone else's husband.
It is wrong to assume that you are the wife of someone else's husband, and so, proceed to become one with him --- simply because you do not discern the difference between the genuine wife (body of Christ -Mark 10:7-9; 1Cor.6:17; Eph.4:4; 1:18; 2:18), and yourself (1Cor.11:28-29).
We may be invited to a marriage feast because of our relationship with the Bride and Groom, but we should not then expect, to go on the honeymoon.
We may be invited to a marriage feast because of our relationship with the Bride and Groom, but we should not then expect, to go on the honeymoon.
And finally you ask;
"Pearl, do you think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's hard to get it out of your system entirely?"
The prophecy at Mal.3:1-3 addresses the spiritual and doctrinal corruption which has resulted to God's priesthood during our current, "time of the end".
Please consider what it's content, teaches us...
Please consider what it's content, teaches us...
“I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the Lord Almighty. 2 But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.3 He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness".
Have you derived from those verses, that
1. a "messenger"/Greek:"angel"/a herald, "of the covenant"
(Deut.10:8; 18:5; 21:5; 1Cor.6:2; Heb.8:5; Rev.5:10; 1Pet.2:5,9; Mal.2:7)
(the covenant which binds God's chosen priests into serving God's people)
2. will arrive prior to both of Christ's arrivals (Matt.11:10,14; Luke1:17; Matt.17:11; Acts 3:21; Eph.1:9-11; Matt.25:6; Rev.11:3-4; Zech.4:9,11-14; Matt.17:3,11)?
Can you derive that when the final herald arrives (Rev.22:6-7), it is unlikely that anyone is found, "standing" (Matt.5:13; Luke21:24,36; Dan.8:13; Rev.13:7)?
Do you discern that God's priesthood must be cleansed, as if by fire and soap?
(Rev.11:5; 22:14; 6:9-11; Mark8:35; Rev.19:8)
Do you discern that God's messenger will "sit"/preside, as a refiner, so that the repentant priests may once again, serve God in holiness?
(Zech.3:3-4,8-9; Rev.3:18; 19:8).
Yes, we are in the day of fire... the great tribulation (Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; Luke21:24,22).
"Fire" and "lye" are needed to remove the wormwood of the "WT". But as you can see from God's prophetic Words, the "messenger of the covenant" will come to God's Temple (1Cor.3:16; Rev.10:1; Gen.9:13), and cleanse it of such defilement (Mal.3:3). That one will insist on the distinction between Jew/"earth"/God's dwelling... and Gentile/those of the "sea" (Rev.10:2-3).
("Teach the Distinction") Mark 13:14 ("disgusting-thing")
("Teach the Distinction") Mark 13:14 ("disgusting-thing")
So the question is,
who will accept that refinement? (Isa.59:15-16; 53:1; Rom.10:16; Rev.16:15)
(Isa.42:16; Luke1:17,76-79; Rev.22:16; Isa.60:1-3; 52:1-2,10; Mal.3:1).
(https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/elijah-turns-hearts.html)
ADDITION:
Mal.3: "“Behold, I send My messenger,
And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek,
Will suddenly come to His temple,
Even **the Messenger of the covenant,**
In whom you delight.
Behold, He is coming,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
2 “But who can endure the day of His coming?
And who can stand when He appears?
For He is like a refiner’s fire
And like launderers’ soap.
3 He will sit as a refiner and a purifier of silver;
**He will purify the sons of Levi,**
And purge them as gold and silver,
That they may offer to the Lord
An offering in righteousness."
---The messenger angel to come, would rid God's Temple priesthood/Levi (1Cor.3:16; 1Pet.2:5; Eph.2:20-22) of its corruption, so that it's service is restored in holiness. John the Baptist did not accomplish this.
--We receive a key, when we are told that the messenger to come, is the messenger of the priestly covenant (Mal.2:4,8; 3:1). That seventh angel is depicted at Rev.10:1 as having a rainbow (sign of covenant -Gen.9:13; Isa.60:1-2; 2Cor.3:6-8,9-11; Rom.9:4) above his head.
Jesus referenced the arrival of this one he sends, as being a representative of God's spirit (Matt.10:20; John16:13; 15:26)... who would declare to the priests of Christ (Rev.5:9-10),
the distinction between sin and righteousness, the righteous basis for judgment, and the events to come.
John16: "8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will **tell you things to come."**
--The angel/messenger Jesus sends, who will tell of things to come, is the same one he mentions at Rev.1:1 and 22:6....
"1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to **show His servants—things which must shortly take place.** And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John
"6 Then he said to me, “These words are faithful and true.” And the Lord God of the holy prophets **sent His angel to show His servants the things which must shortly take place."**
--As verse 6 stated, that messenger is one of the prophets, sent to the last of the symbolic 7 congregations (Rev.1:20; 10:7; Amos3:7; Rev.22:16; John13:20; 16:7).
That prophet contains the "spirit of Elijah" (as John the Baptist also had -Luke1:17), who comes to "restore all things" by restoring God's Temple priesthood (Matt.17:11,3).
ADDITION:
ADDITION:
Matt.17: 1 After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus. 11 Jesus replied, ‘To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognise him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.’"
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Jesus said; "Elijah has already come, and they did not recognise him, but have done to him everything they wished."
How do we know that this is John the Baptist?
Of him, God decreed;
"13 But the angel said to him: ‘Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 17 And he will go on before the Lord, **in the spirit and power of Elijah**, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous – to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.’"
So John was not Elijah... but he came with the same spirit, of Elijah... the spirit of a great and powerful prophet, which is what that spirit, represents.
At Matt.17:3 above, we learned that when Jesus is glorified on God's holy mountain (Matt.17:1; 2Pet.1:18; Rev.14:1; Isa.2:1-2)...
with him will be those who represent God's holy prophets and law-giving leaders (Moses).
How do we know that the spirit of Elijah is given to more than just Elijah and John the Baptist?
Because if we look again at what Jesus said (after the death of John the Baptist) and while the 3 men were looking at Moses and Elijah, he declared; "‘To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things."
If we consult Mal.3:1-3, we see that this restoration, is of the priesthood of God's Temple.
John the Baptist did not accomplish that, but the messenger of the covenant at Mal.3:1-3, does. That messenger is also sent, to make preparations "before the Day of the Lord" (Luke1:17; Mal.3:1).
We know that Jesus promised to return again. He will again have a prophet arrive in the spirit of Elijah, and that one will, restore the force of the priesthood covenant (Rev10:1; Gen.9:13; Num.25:13; Heb.8:1; Rev.5:9-10)
Malachi tells us how... through discipline and refinement. He will purify them of their error and sin. He will prepare them for the arrival of their high priest, so that the intended eternal service of that heavenly Temple in the Kingdom of their Father, can be inaugurated (Heb.8:1,3,5-6; Rev.5:9-10; 1Pet.2:5,9; Rev.15:8; 21:1-3).
Before that can happen, the last of those priests, must be cleansed (Rev.11:2; Dan.8:11; 2Thess.2:4; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; Luke21:24; Mark13:14).
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