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Wednesday, November 13, 2013

The Kingdom --1914?

A QUESTION:

In The Bible where Michael has war with Satan and throws him down to this earth you will say that was 1914. Well then that means that this world is 99 years old then. Is this right? And Adam must still be alive.

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MY REPLY:

Hello Timothy,
I'll try to cover your question thoroughly by taking a part at at time.
I will put your words in bold.
Your answer is found within the scriptures, so I hope you won't waste our time by just reading the words of my reply, which is worthless.

"In The Bible where Michael has war with Satan and throws him down to this earth"

You refer to Rev.12:7, where Satan and Michael are at war, as well as the "seed"/"angels" who follow each of these, also being at war. This war was first referred to at Gen.3:15.
Each army of "seed" has both, a mother and a father.
The seed of "Michael" are also the seed of the "woman".
Mothers are covenants (See Gal.4:24). There is the mother covenant of life (Gal.4:26) and the mother covenant of death (Isa.28:15).
This is true also of Satan's seed. He is their father (John 8:44;  2Thess. 2:3). Their mother is mentioned at Rev.17:5.

The "seed" of these are also the "angels" of Rev.12:7, because the original Greek translated as "angel", simply means "messenger". These angels are labeled messengers of the mother covenant they represent (Mal.3:1; Matt.11:10; 17:10,11,3; Rev.11:3,4; Zech.4:14,9) (Gal.4:26; Rev.3:12)

"you will say that was 1914"

I don't know where you heard that I say that Satan was hurled to the earth in 1914, because I know that this is a lying doctrine. Satan was judged in the first century by means of Christ's faithfulness (see John 12:31; 16:11,33; 14:30). Satan even lost his power over Christ's Chosen ones back then (Luke 10:18,19,20; Heb.12:23,22; Eph.2:6).
(Jer.31:11; Isa.49:24,25; Psalm 18:17; Mark 3:27; Rev.20:2). But Jesus is not the only king that must prove faithful in the face of Satanic testing (Luke 22:31;  1Pet. 5:8-9;  1John 2:14; 5:4; Rev.12:10-11).
As the last ones of these prove faithful to death (Rev.6:9,10,11; 12:11), Satan's power will then become completely crushed in "heaven" (Rom.16:20; Rev.2:26,27; 12:5,10,11; Dan.2:34,35; Jer.1:10; 23:29; Matt.10:20; Rev.11:5; Jer.23:29; 5:14; Hosea 6:5; Matt.24:51). 
But the Watchtower doctrine exists, which points to 1914 and the start of great world woes. They read Rev.12:12, and assume that Satan's being hurled down from the heavens, is physical, and has resulted in physical manifestations of the sign of the end since 1914, and that those signs fulfill the "labor pain" signs of the end (Mark 13:14). 
I hope to explain, why this is not so.

Notice that the start of Rev.12:12 speaks of the heavens themselves are rejoicing. Does a place rejoice, or do those who belong to that place, do the rejoicing? I hope you agree, that it is the persons of heaven, that are rejoicing. Such a person can belong to heaven, even while physically, on earth (Eph.2:6).
The same principle applies, to earth. Earth is said to be "demonic" and a place belonging to the "realms below" (James 3:15; John 8:23). Those who are not demonic (even Jesus himself) could reside in the same physical place as those who were of the demonic earth (John 8:23). 
So when we are speaking of those of heaven rejoicing, and woe for the earth, we are not talking about physical locations. We are speaking of what happens within the hearts of those who belong to the realms above, or the realms below. They can both occupy the same physical space (John  8:23). 
When Satan is "cast down" from heaven to earth... Satan's power and influence has been neutralized in those whose names are sealed in "heaven", and the wrath of Satan is confined to those still under his influence.... those in "the realm below". (https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-sheole-hades.html)

Next, it is also assumed, that when we see literal physical war, famine, plague, earthquakes, etc.... it is confirmation that Satan has literally been thrown down to this planet. Although it would seem that since 1914, such developments have been observed... Is this the reason the Bible itself gives, for the manifestation of such physical signs? Could there be another cause, that harmonizes better with the rest of the scriptures?
Rather than go into the Bible's reasons why Satan's world is not the place where the signs ("labor pains") are manifested, I will give you two thoughts to reason on, along with a link which thoroughly explains each point. 
1. Is Satan's corrupt world, the mother source giving birth to God's kingdom, and is it therefore the place where labor pains take place? 
2. Which comes first... labor pains or birth? (It is asserted that the birth of the kingdom, is what started the labor pains. This is not reasonable.)
(https://pearl-laborpains.blogspot.com)
In fact, the Bible tells us why the 1914 era saw an increase of woe, and a seeming fulfillment of the signs of the end. It is not because the gathering of the final, sealed heirs was completed at that time. Neither is it because the birth of kingdom, launched visible woes (Luke 17:20) [or "labor pains" (Mark 13:8)] upon the literal planet (Rev.12:5; 2:26-27). 
The reason why the world over which Satan controls (1John 5:19; Luke 4:5,6) saw an apparent increase in woe (approximately starting in 1914), is because that is when, Satan was unleashed from the abyss (Rev.20:7). HE, is the ruler of the world and all that takes place within it (1John 5:19). 
It is not the inauguration of, and a bestowing of power and authority to the Prince of Peace, which ignites Sadistic violence, suffering, and catastrophe for the past century.  False doctrine asserts that Jesus' first act as king was to cast Satan down. Yet that is not what Rev.12:10-11 states. The order of events (according to the Bible), is that Satan is first cast down by the righteous acts of the faithful. Satan is no longer able to make accusation against them and then, the kingdom is the result. Please read it again (Rev.12:10-11). 
[A closer examination of this timing, will be examined, below.]

It is Satan's full intention, that the signs he has created in his world since his release, should be misinterpreted, as the fulfillment of the prophecies that are actually regarding God's people. Though that strategy has proven successful in misleading so many; Satan's counterfeit fulfillment of prophecy, is not the genuine. 
  Satan's release from the abyss, is the reason, not only for the world's recent troubles, but also the reason why the Great Tribulation upon God's people occurs, and why Armageddon, becomes necessary.

Many have been wrongly taught, that Satan's release occurs long after Armageddon... a literal thousand years after that final battle. They were taught that the "thousand year" rule of Christ is literal, and does not even begin, until after Armageddon. 

Since Jesus' symbolic thousand years, began in the first century...
 (1Pet. 3:22; Matt.28:18; Luke 22:69; Eph.1:20; Ps.110:1;  1Cor.15:25) (2Pet. 3:8; Matt.12:8; Isa.60:22) 
...and Jesus' time-limited "thousand year" kingdom ends, when Satan is released (Rev.20:7; Luke 21:20) and temporarily conquers the holy ones (Rev.13:4,7,10; 2:10) during the Great Tribulation. 
(Rev.13:7;  2Thess. 2:4; Dan.8:10-11; Rev.13:10; Luke 21:24; Col.2:8; Rev.11:2;  1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-16; 20:7-8; 17:14; 12:7; 19:11,14; Eph.2:6) (Acts 2:20; John 9:4; 12:35).
The timetable according to the scriptures, is quite different than the forgoing false doctrines. It is much later than anyone perceives.
My point, is that the great spiritual tribulation brings with it, great Satanic deception (1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:13-14; 13:11,14-15; 19:20; Matt.24:24-25). Satan's powerful signs and portents, take even the holy ones, captive (Matt.24:24-25; Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8; Luke 21:24; Rev.11:2). 
The woes of the world since 1914, are not a result of Satan being thrown out of the hearts of the sealed... but rather, are a result of Satan's release from the abyss. After his release, he deceives (Rev.20:7-8; 12:15)... primarily and initially, by fabricating a false fulfillment of prophecy. 
Satan's release of lying signs and portents through the false prophet and wild beast, incites a polarization. Those who embrace his lies (the "earth" Rev.12:9,16/"Gog and Magog"/"kings of the earth") (2Thess. 2:9-12) are brought into conflict, with those who embrace, defend, and die for, the truths of Christ 
(Rev.17:14;  2Cor. 10:3-5; Eph.5:11; Rev.12:11; Mark 8:35).

This has been a crash course of how many of the established, entrenched, and present notions, are false, and must be "demolished". That is the purpose of Christ's witnesses, during Armageddon (2Cor. 10:3-5; Rev.2:16; Heb.4:12).

My final point is, that while others may teach that 1914 and the world's woes that followed were due to Satan being cast out of heaven... I submit to you that such woes were initiated by Satan's release from the abyss. 
I do hope, that you will research further, to attain a full background to each point of this assertion and the new perspective that it creates, fully founded upon the scriptures.
(https://pearl-anillustration.blogspot.com)

"Well then that means that this world is 99 years old then"

I don't follow your reasoning. When the Bible refers to the "world", it is referring to Satan's dominion. That began in Eden, long ago.
I hope I understand you right, if I assume you mean...
that if the kingdom of God began in 1914, then that kingdom of God would now be 99 years old. I hope that's what you mean, because I will now respond to that thought.
Well,
the Bible tells us that Jesus began his rule in the midst of his enemies in the first Century 
(Luke 22:69; Acts 7:55; Ps.110:1,2;  1Pet. 3:22; Matt.28:18;  1Cor. 15:25,24; Eph.1:20,21,22,23).
Jesus already became king for a symbolic "thousand years", starting back then...(John 18:33,36,37; Matt.21:1,2,3,4,5; Luke 17:21). Revelation is symbolic/presented in signs [Rev.1:1 NKJV (see Greek); Matt.13:34,35], and this "thousand years" is symbolic (Rev.20:6; Eph.2:6,10; 1:3). 
It represents 10X10X10, and means a completed witness by one of God's royal sons (Isa.60:22; Luke 8:8; Gen.1:28;  1Cor. 15:45,27; Acts 1:8) regarding their personal testimony of truth (3X - 2Cor. 13:1) to the existing world (10) of Satan (1John 5:19). 
This "thousand year" kingdom of Christ (John 18:37;  2Cor. 5:20;  1Cor. 4:1) is not the same as God's eternal Kingdom; which arrives when all of it's administration of 144000 and remnant of elect have been completely gathered and sealed. The Great Crowd has been gleaned from the Great Tribulation. God's kingdom commences after, all the enemies of Christ (including death), have been conquered (1Cor. 15:24-26). 

Christ's headship and kingdom is of a limited time, during which his "body" (bride) is being assembled... (Rev.1:5,6; 19:16; Col.1:18; Ps.89:27; Heb.1:9,5,6; 2:16,5; Gen.28:14,12,13; Eph.1:22).
(http://jacobsladder-obadiah.blogspot.com/
...and his enemies, conquered/subdued (1Cor. 15:25; Ps.110:1-2).
In contrast, God's Kingdom is eternal (Dan.2:44,34,35; 7:17,27; Luke 1:33;  1Cor. 15:24; Rev.11:15; Gen.28:14; Rom.4:13; Gal.3:29; Eze.37:25), and commences after all Christ's enemies, are subdued (Rev.12:10;  1Cor. 15:24,28)..

Two basic facts derived from these scriptures, are that Christ's time-limited kingdom of a symbolic "thousand years", began in the first century. 
It ends when Satan is released from the abyss (Rev.20:7) for his "short period" of time (Rev.20:3; 12:12; 17:10; Matt.24:22;  1Pet. 1:6; Dan.11:20; Ps.37:10). During that period, Christ loses his authority and dominion over his royal priesthood/God's Temple 
(1Pet. 2:5,9;  1Cor. 3:16;  2Thess. 2:4; Rev.11:2; Dan.11:36,31; Mark 13:14; Dan.8:10-12,24). 
God's eternal kingdom commences, after Christ and his awoken faithful, conquer Satan and his messengers in the battle of Armageddon (Rev.3:21; Eph.2:6; Rev.19:11,14; 20:7,8,9; 17:14; 12:7,8,9,10,11). After that victory, Jesus hands his accomplishment over to God, after all enemies of truth and life are conquered and judged (1Cor. 15:24,25,26,27,28)....
(Matt.25:45,46; John 3:18,19;  1Thess. 5:5; John 12:48,36; Rev.20:12,4;  2Pet. 3:7; Rev.11:5,3; Luke 10:16; Deut.18:18; Eze.2:5; Rev.12:11; Luke 10:19;  2Cor. 10:4,5; Rev.19:11,14,8; 17:14), 
...and Christ's bride is completely collected together 
(Eph.1:10; 3:2; Rev.7:4; 14:1; Isa.2:3; Rev.21:2; Ps.110:2) 
(Eph.2:20;  1Cor. 3:11 Zech.4:9,11,12,13,14; Rev.11:4). 

In contrast to Christ's time-limited kingdom of servant kings and priests (symbolic "thousand years");
God's eternal kingdom does not begin until the entire administration is sealed and installed. 
Neither began in 1914... obviously.

Two ways to easily disprove 1914, is to look at two scriptures. 

The first is found at Rev.12:10.

It reads:
"Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, because the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down."
So tell me....Which occurs first? Is it the kingdom...or the "casting down"?
"NOW...the kingdom...BECAUSE accuser HAS BEEN cast down".

We are clearly being told that the kingdom can begin, 
because Satan has been cast down, first.
"Jehovah's Witnesses" teach, that "the first action Christ takes as king of the new kingdom, is to cast Satan down". 
Rev.12:10 proves that this is error. 
The kingdom cannot begin until after Satan is left with no more accusations against the brothers of Christ (co-heirs of the kingdom). 
 Why? 
Because when all accusations against them have been exhausted, they are at that point...all proven faithful and sealed.
This is precisely why, the kingdom can begin then...because it now has proven as faithful, it's full number of sealed kings. Their being sealed as faithful, is the means by which Satan is conquered and cast down (Rev.12:10,11).

Christ waits for all his sealed brothers to also conquer Satan, before GOD'S rule begins (1Cor. 15:24). 
This is when that completed kingdom administration [which was being gathered since the first century (Eph.1:9,10,14,18; Matt.13:37,38,39; John 4:35,36) is completed (Rev.6:9,10,11; 20:4; 14:1; 7:4) and appointed over ALL Christ's belongings (Matt.25:23; 24:26,27)
This takes place at the scripture we started with...Rev.12:10. 
I hope you can see that the scriptures contain no indication of 1914. It never will, because the "seven times" used to calculate this year, are supposed to be applied symbolically, not literally (But this is another subject).

The second scripture which disproves that the kingdom began in 1914, is found at Matt.24:3,8.
The "pangs of distress" Jesus spoke of, were actually worded "labor pains" (See original Greek of Mark 13:8 also).
"Jehovah's Witnesses" again switch the order here. 
They say that the labor pains we see occurring in the world around us, are proof that the kingdom was born in 1914. (War,famine,earthquakes,etc.)

Now stop there and think about this....
What happens first?....
Labor pains...or birth???
How can the kingdom be born at the start of labor pains, and not after???
Once again, "Jehovah's Witnesses" switch the order. 
Why are they making the arrival of the kingdom pre-mature?

This deception was prophesied to occur (2Thess. 2:1,2,3; Luke 21:8,9) 
...which is why Christ's visible arrival (and the blessings of God's completed kingdom -Matt.13:31,32; Rev.7:4; 14:1) seem to be delaying. 
This premature kingdom announcement, comes "as if from us" (2Thess. 2:2), meaning, "as if from" the apostles (Rev.2:2;  2Cor. 11:13; Matt.24:4,5,24,25). 
It is the wicked steward over God's household of anointed virgins, that expects and teaches them this premature arrival (Matt.25:5; 24:48,49; Hab.2:3).
Rev.12:1,2,5* makes clear...that the kingdom's birth occurs after labor pains. That birth of the completed number of heirs (Rev.2:26,27*), causes the kingdom of this world, 
to become the kingdom of our God, (Rev.11:15; 12:10)
and causes God's will to take place...
as it already is in heaven 
(among those sealed -Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22,23; Luke 10:20),
...even to take place on earth (Matt.6:10-11 B).

But we are not done.
Who has labor pains....Satan's world...or the woman in heaven? (Rev.12:1-2)
Satan has been able to mislead everyone with events taking place in the very world he controls (1John 5:19; Luke 4:5-6; John 12:31). God's Holy Kingdom is not being born from that demonic source (Job 14:4; John 18:36). Hence, the labor pains are not of this world.
(pearl-laborpains.blogspot.com)
(pearl-sign.blogspot.com)

"And Adam must still be alive"


Your logic eludes me. I don't know what Adam's lifespan has to do with the kingdom's birth, 1914, or the idea that the kingdom is 99 years into it's reign.

I would be happy to reply to this statement, if you will please clarify what you mean.

If I have misunderstood any of your question...please clarify and re-submit it, and I would be happy to re-consider.

Thank you for your good question. I hope my reply is satisfactory. The cited scriptures are where the essence of your answers lie, so please don't follow up until you have considered them.
God grant you His favor, through knowledge and peace.
Love in Christ,
Pearl


Follow-Up 

QUESTION: 
You are not a Jehovah Witness are you? You are right that they really come up with strange doctrines. It seems like that you agree with me based upon your answers. I find it very hard to believe in the 1914 doctrine. And as you can see because I was following their reasoning I was even more confused. You have shown me that I am not the only one who feels this way about their teachings.
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My answer to this is;
I was a "Jehovah's Witness" for 35 years. I was thrown out for putting truth as more important than subjection to lies, and subjection to the dominating men who spawn them. The faithful must be in subjection to Christ. He is the Head of the Congregation among the faithful.
However, I hope you will allow me to correct one thing you say...
I am now one of Yhwh's Witnesses, more than I ever was.
You see...It is God who has the right to label His own witnesses.
He does this, as revealed at Isa.43:10.
Yet taking that title for oneself, does not make it true, nor does it obligate God to accept it (Jer.25:29).

The very scripture which "Jehovah's Witnesses" use to validate their claim, is Isa.43:10. But a closer examination of that verse, disproves what they assume.
You see, there it is revealed that God "chooses" these individuals. These are called "chosen ones". What does He choose them to do? That answer is found in the context, at Isa.43:21. A brief comparison of that verse, with 1Pet. 2:9,10,5 makes plain, that God's authentic witnesses, are God's "chosen" priesthood.
This is why, when I refer to those known as "Jehovah's Witnesses", I always put that title in "quotes", because this claim, is false. 
When I am referring to the genuine priesthood of "chosen" witnesses, I will simply write, Yhwh's Witnesses.
I am relieved to learn of your accurate understanding.
I hope you will pursue gaining more, resulting in life eternal.
God continue to bless you with His Spirit,
Pearl

SECOND FOLLOW-UP:




Dear Timothy,
I see that you tried to reason with "Bro DW".
 I thought since he did not get the sense of the scriptures I cited, but rather dismissed what they reveal, I would follow up for you.
He stated:
"So think about it why does the labour pains have to come before the birth on two SEPARATE women?? One's an Earthly Woman and one's Heavenly. Two separate women have two separate labour pains and two separate births. According to Pearls argument everyone on the Earth is exactly the same age, all women get pregnant at the same time and all give birth at the same time. Nonsense!!!
It's the birth of the heavenly woman that causes the labour pains for the earthly woman. The labour pains are for the "Earthly Woman" not the Heavenly one!!"

I will remind you of what Rev.12:1,2 actually said...
"Now a great sign appeared IN HEAVEN: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth."
The labor pains, according to God, take place with a heavenly woman, not an earthly one. This does not necessarily mean that those who represent this woman on earth (but whose names are sealed in the heavens) do not have labor pains, because they do (Gal.4:19; Luke 10:20; Isa.4:3; Heb.12:23)...but it does mean that these labor pains of the Kingdom's birth (it's completed number of kings), are not coming from Satan's world. (John 18:36; Job.14:4)
DW then quotes Rev.12:13 to refer to the same heavenly woman as being on earth...
Rev 12:13 
"Now when the dragon saw that it had been hurled down to the earth,+ it persecuted the woman+ WHO GAVE BIRTH to the male child".
He is absolutely right...as I showed you in the scriptures above, that those anointed who are sealed into this covenant, become this covenant above and represent it on earth (Eph.2:6; Gal.4:26; Rev.3:12; Isa.42:6; Gal.4:19; Luke 10:20; Isa.4:3; Heb.12:23).
Again, these labor pains are found within these holy ones who are of heaven (see previous scriptures)....not within Satan's world which is where "JW's" point to for the fulfillment of these "labor pains".
(The problem here is being caused by viewing "heaven" and "earth" as physical places. This fleshly view is not accurate, and prevents understanding of these symbols.)
If you would like to read about the actual woman having these labor pains, and how the scriptures identify the spiritual fulfillment of the signs Jesus gave, I hope you will consider 

DW then says...
"Can you really argue that Satan being in heaven prevented Jesus being crowned King?? How can you say that the basis of Jesus kingship is Satan being hurled to Earth?? It's nonsense!! This is what the scriptures say is the basis of Jesus Kingship"

Of course, I never said these things. As you know, I did say that while Satan retains his power, he has opposed the remnant from being sealed and crowned, which is after all, what the true arrival of the kingdom awaits (Rev.6:9,10,11; 7:4; 14:1). 
Satan has demanded to test these ones. "Day and night" he makes accusations against them, trying to prevent their receiving the final seal of God's approval (Rev.12:10,17; Luke 22:31; Rom.16:20). Jesus is not awaiting his own crown, but rather the crowning of the full number of his co-rulers (Rev.2:10; 20:4).
Poor DW is still under Satan's blinding curse, as an agent of the Abyss (Rev.9:3,11).

As far as DW refuting the order of Satan's needing to be cast down by the chosen ones, before the kingdom victory for the completed heavenly temple (not the victory for Christ), the scriptures cannot be nullified (Rev.12:10,11). Christ has already been ruling over his body members. But he has not been ruling over everything since 1914, without all his co-heirs. DW has totally forgotten that the kingdom administration is more than Christ (Eph.1:9,10,11,12; 2:6; Rev.14:1).

Satan attained authority and power when Adam and Even sinned (Gen.3:13,16,17,18,19,23,24; Heb.2:14;  1John 5:19). He exploited the justice of God to achieve his own purposes (Gen.3:1,2,3,4,5,6). It was granted by God for Satan to rule this world (Rom.13:1; John 19:11; Luke 4:5,6), until a just basis could be satisfied to remove Satan's authority and power (Gen.3:15; Heb.2:14).

When DW asserts that Satan does not have to be conquered in order to re-establish the Kingdom of God over all creation, and to restore creation's freedom from sin and death; he exposes his lack of understanding about the requirements of God's justice. 

If it were not necessary for Satan to lose his world dominion by means of God's justice, then God must have temporarily subjected creation to cruel corruption, for nothing (Rom.8:19,20,21,22,23,24,25). God is love (1John 4:8), and when he abandoned creation to Satan because of Adam's choice, it was according to His justice (Gen.2:16,17). 
The establishment of God's Kingdom, and the fall of Satan, also must be by God's justice. 
So when DW says,
"How can you say that the basis of Jesus kingship is Satan being hurled to Earth??"...
he reveals that he lacks understanding as to why Jesus Christ was required to suffer and die (2Tim. 1:10; Eph.1:7; John 1:12; Heb.2:3,4,6,17; 9:26; Rom.5:17).
Isa.14:12,13,14 shows us that Satan is not merely in heaven. He has taken a ruling position of those Of heaven. This means that heavenly ones (stars Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3  2Pet. 3:17; Rev.6:13; Matt.24:29) have been made subject to him 
(Rev.13:7,10; Col.2:8;  1Tim. 4:1; Matt.24:24-25; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:24; Rev.13:10).
Satan accomplishes this against the remnant, when he is released from the abyss. (Rev.20:7). That is also when the reign of Jesus ends.... not when it begins!
So then, Satan being hurled from heavens, has everything to do with Jesus reigning.

Satan's fall from power requires God's justice to be satisfied...unless you believe that God is unnecessarily cruel, and wants us to suffer and die for no reason. 
It was necessary for Christ to be faithful under test, if he hoped to dethrone Satan (1John 3:8; John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11; Heb.2:14). This conquering of Satan was necessary, before Jesus Christ could be crowned king (John 16:33; Rev.3:21). 
The same requirement stands for all those called ones, who hope to join Christ and be sealed as a kingdom heir (Acts 14:22;  1John 2:13; Rev.12:11; Mark 8:35;  2Tim. 2:12; Rom.8:17; Rev.3:21).


As you can see by the foregoing scriptures...Christ's faithfulness to death did cause Satan's fall from authority and power. Yet Christ does not rule alone. Each and every heir must also conquer Satan. It is their individual victories to be completed, that Christ and all creation await. Each member of the 144000 and great crowd/remnant, must follow the footsteps of Christ...all the way to a faithful death for truth. Each of them must overcome the temptations, tests, and persecutions by Satan, before being declared victorious by their Master, Christ.
I hope that if DW's ignorance caused you any confusion, that these new thoughts may help to clarify. We should pray for all those still captive and under the power of this Great Tribulation of spiritual test, that as many as possible will be saved from this blinding deception, which has been delivered by means of Satan, the false prophet, and the wild beast 
(Rev.9:1-3; 16:14; 13:11-18;  2Thess. 2:4,9; Matt.24:4,5,24,25; Rev.13:7). 
Few will be saved from this blindness 
(Rev.13:8; 12:9; Matt.24:4,5,24,25; 7:13,14).

2 comments:

  1. Greetings Sister Pearl !
    I am glad you go on in this battle , with God's power !
    My old post agrees with your words
    http://brothersofchrist.forumsland.com/brothersofchrist-about374.html

    Be blessed ,
    rus v.

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    1. Rus, I have left my response for you and all readers, on the main page,
      located at:
      http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/satans-fall-heaven-seven-spirits-of-god.html
      It was posted on November 15, 2013

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