A QUESTION:
Pearl,
I was thinking about Heb.1:6, and "God's angels".
I know that Christ's angelic messengers are the anointed, after they become living spirits,
but am I correct in thinking that Christ's "angels" are not the same as God's angels,
and that God's angels are those who were never human?
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My Reply:
We remember that Christ is the only mediator between God and Mankind (1Tim. 2:5). Any "messengers" (Greek: "angels") sent to mankind, must be in service to him (John 1:51; Gen.28:10-14,17; Eph.2:19). He always was God's mediator, and this is why he was called "The Word" (John 1:1). As God's primary spokesperson to all creation, [including to the original creation's angels (1Pet. 3:19,20)]; he IS the "archangel"..."arch" meaning primary (Eph.2:20; Rom.8:29), and "angel" meaning messenger/spokesman (John 12:49; Rev.20:1; Luke 8:31; Rev.1:18; Heb.2:14). "The Word" and "ArchAngel" are interchangeable titles, for God's only mediator and 'primary-messenger' ('arch-angel').
Along with God's physical creation (Gen.3:11,13,17,19; 6:5,6,11,12),
God's original heavenly angelic persons were also brought down into corruption and death by means of Satan
(Gen.6:2,4; Jude 1:6).
The original "heavens" were corrupted (Eph.6:12; 1:20,21; 1Cor. 15:24,25,27).
How many of that spiritual creation sided with Satan?**
**The "Watchtower" teaches that one third of the angels fell into sin. This idea is derived
from Rev.12:4. This is not correct, because those "stars" are not the demons.
They are the Chosen Ones (Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3; Rev.1:20; 8:10,11; 9:1; 2Pet. 3:17; Rev.2:5).
The symbolic "third" are those anointed "stars" whom God successfully disciplines in the time of the end
(Zech.13:8,9; Rev.9:18,20; 6:9,11; Mark 8:35).]
To learn more about this, please read> https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/07/who-are-fallen-stars-of-rev124.html
We are told that the "heavens" and "earth" belonging to the original creation, are passing away, due to their corruption (2Pet. 3:7).
These are to be totally replaced with a new heavens and earth (Rev.21:5; 2Pet. 3:13)... a totally New Creation. The new heavens will include new angels (divine "messengers") (Matt.22:29,30; 1Pet. 3:22; Eph.1:22; Heb.2:5,16,8,12; 12:22,23; Luke 10:20; Rev.1:20; 8:2,6; Josh.6:4; Mal.2:7)
From Mal.2:7, you may have noticed that the ancient priests were God's messengers. That priesthood was prophetically designed, according to a future priesthood of heaven (Heb.8:5,1,2; 9:11,24; 3:1,2; Mark 14:58; 1Cor. 3:16; 1Pet. 2:5,9; Eph.2:20,21,22,6).
Remember that the definition of the Greek "angel", IS "messenger".
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=g32
So the priests, are God's messengers (Mal.2:7).
How does the old Covenant priesthood, compare to the new?
Are the new priests, also God's messengers?
Please read Rev.1:6 and Rev.5:10
Now consider Rev.20:6...
"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years."
Pearl,
I was thinking about Heb.1:6, and "God's angels".
I know that Christ's angelic messengers are the anointed, after they become living spirits,
but am I correct in thinking that Christ's "angels" are not the same as God's angels,
and that God's angels are those who were never human?
- - - - - - -
My Reply:
We remember that Christ is the only mediator between God and Mankind (1Tim. 2:5). Any "messengers" (Greek: "angels") sent to mankind, must be in service to him (John 1:51; Gen.28:10-14,17; Eph.2:19). He always was God's mediator, and this is why he was called "The Word" (John 1:1). As God's primary spokesperson to all creation, [including to the original creation's angels (1Pet. 3:19,20)]; he IS the "archangel"..."arch" meaning primary (Eph.2:20; Rom.8:29), and "angel" meaning messenger/spokesman (John 12:49; Rev.20:1; Luke 8:31; Rev.1:18; Heb.2:14). "The Word" and "ArchAngel" are interchangeable titles, for God's only mediator and 'primary-messenger' ('arch-angel').
Along with God's physical creation (Gen.3:11,13,17,19; 6:5,6,11,12),
God's original heavenly angelic persons were also brought down into corruption and death by means of Satan
(Gen.6:2,4; Jude 1:6).
The original "heavens" were corrupted (Eph.6:12; 1:20,21; 1Cor. 15:24,25,27).
How many of that spiritual creation sided with Satan?**
**The "Watchtower" teaches that one third of the angels fell into sin. This idea is derived
from Rev.12:4. This is not correct, because those "stars" are not the demons.
They are the Chosen Ones (Phil.2:15; Dan.12:3; Rev.1:20; 8:10,11; 9:1; 2Pet. 3:17; Rev.2:5).
The symbolic "third" are those anointed "stars" whom God successfully disciplines in the time of the end
(Zech.13:8,9; Rev.9:18,20; 6:9,11; Mark 8:35).]
To learn more about this, please read> https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2017/07/who-are-fallen-stars-of-rev124.html
We are told that the "heavens" and "earth" belonging to the original creation, are passing away, due to their corruption (2Pet. 3:7).
These are to be totally replaced with a new heavens and earth (Rev.21:5; 2Pet. 3:13)... a totally New Creation. The new heavens will include new angels (divine "messengers") (Matt.22:29,30; 1Pet. 3:22; Eph.1:22; Heb.2:5,16,8,12; 12:22,23; Luke 10:20; Rev.1:20; 8:2,6; Josh.6:4; Mal.2:7)
From Mal.2:7, you may have noticed that the ancient priests were God's messengers. That priesthood was prophetically designed, according to a future priesthood of heaven (Heb.8:5,1,2; 9:11,24; 3:1,2; Mark 14:58; 1Cor. 3:16; 1Pet. 2:5,9; Eph.2:20,21,22,6).
Remember that the definition of the Greek "angel", IS "messenger".
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=g32
So the priests, are God's messengers (Mal.2:7).
How does the old Covenant priesthood, compare to the new?
Are the new priests, also God's messengers?
Please read Rev.1:6 and Rev.5:10
Now consider Rev.20:6...
"Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years."
Can you see that the New Covenant priests serve both God and Christ?
Remember from Rev.7:3, that God's slaves are so branded on their foreheads, symbolically (Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Heb.10:16). This means that God's Words of Truth (John 17:17) are "written" in their hearts. From their hearts, they speak that truth (Luke 6:45,43; Rev.14:5; Matt.7:20; John 8:47; 7:16-18)
(pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com)
Please read Rev.22:3,4 and Rev.14:1.
The 144000 priests of truth, slave as God's priests. This is symbolically designated by having one's forehead "marked" (Deut.11:18; Rev.7:3; 14:1).
What then of Christ's ("Michael's") angelic messengers?
Are God's priests also in servitude to him?
Note that God's priests are also in servitude to Christ and the Holy City...
"The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name." Rev.3:12
What is Christ's "new name"? What does it mean to serve the meaning of that new name?
A "New Name"..."Michael". Why?
--- Source of Truth / "Michael" / Serving Men (Part B)
Rev.1:6 and Rev.5:10 plainly stated that the priesthood (messengers) of the New covenant, serve God (1Pet. 2:5,9,10; Jer.31:33). How then, do they also serve Christ / "Michael"?
(2Cor. 5:20; Acts 1:8; Matt.28:20; Rev.12:7; 19:11,14; 17:14; 2Cor. 10:5,3,4; Rev.12:9,11; Luke 10:20)
We must remember here,
that Christ himself, as the "Word", was a witness/messenger/angel of God (Rev.1:5; 10:1; Matt.17:2; John 1:14; 18:37).
All he taught was from God (John 12:49; 7:16; 8:28; 17:8).
Therefore, it is not possible to be Christ's witness/messenger/priest/angel,
without being God's witness/messenger/priest/angel, also (John 13:20).
In summary,
God's original creation, both physical and spiritual, was corrupted.
God has purposed to bring about a re-creation
(Matt.19:28; Rev.21:5; Gal.6:15; 2Cor. 5:17; Eph.2:10,15; 4:24; Col.3:10; Isa.65:17)
in which righteousness dwells (2Pet. 3:3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,14).
(John 3:3; 1Pet. 1:23; Luke 8:11,15; John 1:13; 1John 3:9; Matt.5:48; James 1:18,21)
That re-creation includes new heavens / angelic spirits / divine messengers.
(Rom.8:11,13,9; 7:5,6; John 3:5,6,3; 1Pet. 1:23; John 5:24; 6:47,50,51; 8:51; 11:26; Luke 20:36; 1Cor. 6:17; Rom.8:9; 2Cor. 5:16; Gal.2:20; Eph.5:30; Rom.8:11; Mark 12:25; Rev.22:4,3,6)
who serve both, God and Christ.
Remember from Rev.7:3, that God's slaves are so branded on their foreheads, symbolically (Deut.6:6,8; 11:18; Heb.10:16). This means that God's Words of Truth (John 17:17) are "written" in their hearts. From their hearts, they speak that truth (Luke 6:45,43; Rev.14:5; Matt.7:20; John 8:47; 7:16-18)
(pearl-finetrees.blogspot.com)
Please read Rev.22:3,4 and Rev.14:1.
The 144000 priests of truth, slave as God's priests. This is symbolically designated by having one's forehead "marked" (Deut.11:18; Rev.7:3; 14:1).
What then of Christ's ("Michael's") angelic messengers?
Are God's priests also in servitude to him?
Note that God's priests are also in servitude to Christ and the Holy City...
"The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name." Rev.3:12
What is Christ's "new name"? What does it mean to serve the meaning of that new name?
A "New Name"..."Michael". Why?
--- Source of Truth / "Michael" / Serving Men (Part B)
Rev.1:6 and Rev.5:10 plainly stated that the priesthood (messengers) of the New covenant, serve God (1Pet. 2:5,9,10; Jer.31:33). How then, do they also serve Christ / "Michael"?
(2Cor. 5:20; Acts 1:8; Matt.28:20; Rev.12:7; 19:11,14; 17:14; 2Cor. 10:5,3,4; Rev.12:9,11; Luke 10:20)
We must remember here,
that Christ himself, as the "Word", was a witness/messenger/angel of God (Rev.1:5; 10:1; Matt.17:2; John 1:14; 18:37).
All he taught was from God (John 12:49; 7:16; 8:28; 17:8).
Therefore, it is not possible to be Christ's witness/messenger/priest/angel,
without being God's witness/messenger/priest/angel, also (John 13:20).
In summary,
God's original creation, both physical and spiritual, was corrupted.
God has purposed to bring about a re-creation
(Matt.19:28; Rev.21:5; Gal.6:15; 2Cor. 5:17; Eph.2:10,15; 4:24; Col.3:10; Isa.65:17)
in which righteousness dwells (2Pet. 3:3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,14).
(John 3:3; 1Pet. 1:23; Luke 8:11,15; John 1:13; 1John 3:9; Matt.5:48; James 1:18,21)
That re-creation includes new heavens / angelic spirits / divine messengers.
(Rom.8:11,13,9; 7:5,6; John 3:5,6,3; 1Pet. 1:23; John 5:24; 6:47,50,51; 8:51; 11:26; Luke 20:36; 1Cor. 6:17; Rom.8:9; 2Cor. 5:16; Gal.2:20; Eph.5:30; Rom.8:11; Mark 12:25; Rev.22:4,3,6)
who serve both, God and Christ.
you may wish to consider how the 144000 will serve and worship Christ,
(Dan.7:18; Rev.14:1; 22:3,5; 1:5; 1Cor. 3:11; 15:27; Ps.45:7,16)
("Worship Christ?")
even as they do now (Rev.1:5; 5:10; 19:13,16,14,8; 17:14; 2Cor. 10:3,4,5; 1Cor. 15:57,58; Gal.1:10; Col.3:24; Eph.1:22).
(pearl-holycity.blogspot.com)
If we look at the entirety of Heb.1:6;
God's "angel" messengers (Mal.2:7) worship Christ (Heb.8:1; Dan.7:14 (Rev.5:9,10) (Isa.9:7; Dan.2:44; Rev.1:5; 5:10), "when God again brings his firstborn into the world". This helps to clarify who the angels are (Mark 14:62; Heb.12:1; 1Thess. 3:13; Matt.25:31). The "firstborn" sons, as a group, are the Holy Ones/Holy "angels" (James 1:18; Rev.14:4; Heb.12:22,23; Luke 10:20; 1Tim. 3:15; 5:21) (Rev.5:11; Dan.7:10; Jude 1:14)
who will come "into the world" during God's Kingdom (Rev.21:2; John 1:51).
("Jacob's Ladder")
"And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world,
he says, 'Let all God’s angels worship him.' " (Heb.1:6)
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