Thursday, March 30, 2017

Discerning the Body / Messenger of the Covenant


A question I was sent, as follows:
"Dear Pearl,   The only people who I can find in the bible who definately  
went house to house were Herod's soldiers looking for Jesus as a child, and  
Saul (before he became Paul), in order to kill Christians. Jesus said in  
Luke 10:7 to his disciples not to be transferring from house to house,  
though Jw's hardly ever cite this scripture when justifying the preaching  
work, but use scriptures in Acts which according to a footnote in one of  
their translations, where they translate "house to house" the original  
Greek is properly translated “in every house”, “at home” or “in their  
homes”. Some authorities believe Paul is talking about preaching to those  
who were already Christians, not unbelievers . Would not  Satan  use an  
organisation that really is indistinguishable from the real truth? What  
better way to trap true Christians than to get them into the "JWorg" and then  
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,  
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you  
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's  
hard to get it out of your sytem entirely?"


MY REPLY:
Since you list a number of perspectives, just as I have written about them,
     (-house to house is a prophetic and thorough search for the "firstborn" 
        (Rev.12:17; Matt.2:18; Rev.13:7; 11:7; 6:9-11), 
      which God allows -Luke 22:31; Prov.27:11; Rev.12:10-11; John 16:2; Mark 8:35... 
      especially if and when His people are sinning and require discipline --
      (Isa.51:23; Rev.11:2; Luke 21:22,24; Rev.13:10,7; Amos 9:9; Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; Rev.3:18; Mal.3:1-3)
(http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-greatest-tribulation-why.html)
(http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/09/trample-how-does-it-happen.html)


I will assume that you have repeated my written assertions, in order to lay them as a groundwork for your questions.
I do not however, follow your reasoning that follows, and will explain, why.
You state;
"What better way to trap true Christians than to get them into the "JWorg" and then  
tell them they are not Christians. (no mediator, bible not meant for them,  
must be emotionally unbalanced if partaking of the emblems). Pearl, do you  
think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's  
hard to get it out of your system entirely?"

I would think it's obvious, that "true Christians" would not be drawn into an organization which required it's members to accept the overt doctrine, that they were not Christians, have no mediator, are not the recipients of God's Word, and are not the ones God intended to become one spirit in marriage covenant with Christ (1Cor.10:16; Matt.20:23; Rom.8:36; 6:5; Mark 8:35).
As we both know; a more accurate description of what "JW's" are taught, 
is:

Regarding -- "NOT CHRISTIANS":
-Is it really taught to "JW's" that they are not Christians? Or rather, is it taught that there are Christian disciples of two sorts? There is a difference between spiritual Jews and spiritual Gentiles (Rom.2:28-29; Rev.2:9; 3:9) (Link - "Jew/Gentile"), just as there is a difference between those of the "earth" (Rev.13:11), the "heavens" (Eph.2:6; Luke 10:20; Rev.12:12), and of the "sea" (Rev.13:1; Isa.57:20), through which creatures, the truth may come to "feed" others 
(Mark 6:41; Matt.22:8-10; Rev.22:17) (Isa.66:20-21). 
"All sorts" can be disciples of Christ (1Tim.2:4; John 8:31)
    As you can see from the cited scriptures above, that spiritual distinction, is true
    Yet both spiritual Jew and spiritual Gentile, can both be disciples of Christ,
            (Gal.3:28, is speaking of nationality according to the flesh)

Regarding -- "NO MEDIATOR":
-As we know, there is "one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ" (1Tim.2:5). 
    Do you assume that all human beings, are considered by God, to be His definition of "men"?
   (Gen.1:26; Luke 3:38; Eph.5:1; 2Cor.6:18; Rom.8:14) --    
   (Hosea 1:9; John 8:41-44; Matt.23:33; Eze.2:6; Rev.9:3; 2Pet.2:12; Jude 1:10; Rev.13:1,11).
Even without a consideration of God's Words cited above,
surely you know that Christ is not a mediator for the unrepentant and defiant wicked?

Who is to set the standard, of wickedness? Is it not God?
Men may be deemed by God as among those deserving of death, and not even know it (Hosea 4:6; John12:35).
Many who believe themselves to be slaves of God, are mistaken, and will be condemned by Christ (Matt.7:21,23).
Why? 
Because just as Jesus said... they refuse to accept and perform "the will of God", stubbornly imagining, 
that their own desires, will, and deduced convictions, are a sufficient substitute. 
  They do not know God, His truth, and His purposes, as well as they assume they do (1Tim.1:7). 
That scourge is not unique to "JW's".

--- It is a fact purported by Jesus Christ himself, 
that he has appointed angelic priests and kings to serve under him. Their service is defined in scripture as serving and healing God's nation 
(John 1:51; Col.3:23-24; Eph.2:6; Heb.12:22-23; John 15:8; Rev.22:2),  which healing only comes to disciples who obey Christ by fleeing the corruption (Matt.24:16; Eze.36:8).
It is the foremost service of Zion, to "feed my sheep" (John 21:17). It is a fact, that Christ appoints (anoints for a purpose -John 15:16; Rev.11:3-4; Zech.4:14) 
those whom he chooses and appoints to accept that task (Luke12:42-43; Heb.13:17). 
They may prove faithful, or not. Those "mountains" which provide "fruit", are not the obedient of the nations, which eat it and are healed.

Paul described his apostolic and prophetic appointment (the foundation of God's "Temple" (Eph.2:20; 1Cor.3:10), as being 
"ambassadors, substituting for Christ" as pillars among messengers of God (2Cor.5:20; Matt.10:20; Jer.23:29; Rev.11:5). Paul spoke of himself as being in the role of spiritual "mother" to other Christians (1Thess.2:7; Gal.4:19; 1Pet.2:2). Do you know why? (Gal.4:26; Rev.12:2; John 16:20-21). 
Do you assume that mother and child, are the same identity? Not all Christians become Christ's bride, and mother to the new creation. Some Christians, are the result of that union.

Regarding -- "BIBLE NOT MEANT FOR THEM":
Do you really think this is the impression "JW's" are given?
I was one for 35 years, while intimidated into dismissing my miraculous anointing. As a "rank and file", there was constant pressure to conform one's life to their interpretation of scripture.

I assume you speak of the idea, that there is a group, chosen by God to "receive"/"hear"/understand as an opened book... the Word of God. 
(Luke 8:10; 24:32,45; Rev.3:8; 4:1; 5:2-3,6-7; John 16:15.13,8; 15:15).
The faithful who have God's approval (1Cor.11:19; 1:10; Eph.4:15-16), are free of the confusion, which is rife among religions, groups, and individuals which claim to accurately interpret the Bible, and consider themselves, Christians.

Well... what Did Jesus say about those for whom the Word of God was primarily intended?
He quoted Psalm 82:6, at John 10:35. Let's learn what those two scriptures teach us...
"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' " (Ps.82:6) (gods/spirit sons/men, in God's image)
"If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--
 and Scripture cannot be set aside" (John10:35) (spirit beings born of God, who are sent God's Word)
(Rom.8:9; 1Pet.1:23; Eph.2:6; Rev.12:1; Gal.4:26)
Do you discern that there are "gods" whom God considers His sons, who are sent the Word of God?
Are all, "sons of God"? (Gal.3:29,26; Rev.21:7)(Isa.30:9; 63:10; Hosea 1:9) Do all, walk by spirit? (Rom.8:14) (Acts 7:51-52)
(who-are-gods)

There are four baptisms into Christ, are there not?
There is literal water, there is spirit, there is fire, and there is death.
Do you know why?... and who each baptism, is for?
Not all God's Words, are regarding any of those baptisms.
I hope you are open-minded enough, to keep learning.

Regarding -- "PARTAKERS ARE EMOTIONALLY UNBALANCED":
No blanket statement about those who choose to partake, can possibly be accurate to describe all those who do... either by positive or negative description.
The only positive reason to partake, 
is that one discerns 
--the identity of the body of Christ/God's Temple/God's handiwork
--the purpose and individual members of that body (apostles, prophets, etc.)
--the reality that one has been chosen by God, to be a member of that body

If one does not discern that body (and their exclusion or inclusion regarding it),
then they partake unworthily, and come under the condemnation which results. (1Cor.11:27-29,30-31)
(discerning-body)
(discerning-body-god-of-order)
(Who should partake?)
Why is condemnation the result of not discerning the relationship between the body and ones self?
If the emblems represent a joining to Christ as those in a marriage covenant with him (Matt.26:28; 1Cor.10:16;  Eph.5:25)...
and others assume they too have been chosen to join with Christ;
that is equivalent to committing spiritual adultery with someone else's husband.
It  is  wrong  to assume that you are the wife of someone else's husband, and so, proceed to become one with him --- simply because you do not discern the difference between the genuine wife (body of Christ -Mark 10:7-9; 1Cor.6:17; Eph.4:4; 1:18; 2:18), and yourself (1Cor.11:28-29). 
We may be invited to a marriage feast because of our relationship with the Bride and Groom, but we should not  then expect, to go on the honeymoon.

And finally you ask;
"Pearl, do you  think when one has been indoctrinated by Watchtower Real Estate Inc, it's  hard to get it out of your system entirely?"

The prophecy at Mal.3:1-3 addresses the spiritual and doctrinal corruption which has resulted to God's priesthood during our current, "time of the end". 
Please consider what it's content, teaches us...

“I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the Lord Almighty. But who can endure the day of his coming? Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a refiner’s fire or a launderer’s soap.He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine them like gold and silver. Then the Lord will have men who will bring offerings in righteousness".
Have you derived from those verses, that 
1. a "messenger"/Greek:"angel"/a herald, "of the covenant" 
(Deut.10:8; 18:5; 21:5; 1Cor.6:2; Heb.8:5; Rev.5:10; 1Pet.2:5,9; Mal.2:7
(the covenant which binds God's chosen priests into serving God's people) 
2. will arrive prior to both of Christ's arrivals (Matt.11:10,14; Luke1:17; Matt.17:11; Acts 3:21; Eph.1:9-11; Matt.25:6; Rev.11:3-4; Zech.4:9,11-14; Matt.17:3,11)?
Can you derive that when the final herald arrives (Rev.22:6-7), it is unlikely that anyone is found, "standing" (Matt.5:13; Luke21:24,36; Dan.8:13; Rev.13:7)?
Do you discern that God's priesthood must be cleansed, as if by fire and soap? 
(Rev.11:5; 22:14; 6:9-11; Mark8:35; Rev.19:8)
Do you discern that God's messenger will "sit"/preside, as a refiner, so that the repentant priests may once again, serve God in holiness? 
(Zech.3:3-4,8-9; Rev.3:18; 19:8). 
Yes, we are in the day of fire... the great tribulation (Zech.13:9; Isa.48:10; Luke21:24,22).
"Fire" and "lye" are needed to remove the wormwood of the "WT". But as you can see from God's prophetic Words, the "messenger of the covenant" will come to God's Temple (1Cor.3:16; Rev.10:1; Gen.9:13), and cleanse it of such defilement (Mal.3:3). That one will insist on the distinction between Jew/"earth"/God's dwelling... and Gentile/those of the "sea" (Rev.10:2-3). 
("Teach the Distinction") Mark 13:14 ("disgusting-thing")
So the question is,
who will accept that refinement? (Isa.59:15-16; 53:1; Rom.10:16; Rev.16:15) 
(Isa.42:16; Luke1:17,76-79; Rev.22:16; Isa.60:1-3; 52:1-2,10; Mal.3:1). 

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