Saturday, January 10, 2015

The Spirit of Truth / "Four Horns" / Spirit of Prophets

Many scriptures and clarifications have been added, as well as typing errors of scriptures, corrected.
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This is in response to some questions I received...

My Reply

I am not aware of a scripture which indicates that the "sacred secrets come to an end at the end of the 6th Trumpet".
If you know of one, please send it. 
I associate the sixth trumpet as the "release" by prophetic declaration from domination, 
hindrance ("holding back"), and captivity to the Beast (Rev.13:10,7; 9:13,14; 2Thess.2:6,7,8), 
which is a prerequisite 
[even for all the prophets -"four angels"/four horns (kings) of the altar (death for truth) -***see below)] 
for being given understanding of the sacred secrets of trumpet 7.
Remember too, that not all "parts" of the Body of Christ, are prophets, so not all anointed receive prophetic understanding, but rather, rely on the prophets for that (1Cor.12:21; Rev.1:20)
(1Cor.12:28,29,18,5,6,7,8,9,10,11; Eph.4:11,12; Num.12:6; Amos 3:7; Rev.22:6).
(Discerning the Body / A God of Order)
(The Anointing Teaches Truth -- How?)
The symbolic "two witnesses" (Moses and Elijah -Matt.17:3; John8:17; Rev.11:3)
herald a command to arouse, be free, gather, and shine light (Matt.25:6,7; Rev.9:13,14).

If you read the links I gave you previously, (and especially the scriptures, which teach what I myself do not repeat by writing), then you know that "6" represents deception (
as does the "river Euphrates" ("Babylon's" protective and sustaining "waters"). (Rev.8:10,11; 17:1; 16:12; Isa.11:15; Isa.43:1,2,3; Rev.12:15,16)
("Earth Swallows Satan's River")
   It is not until after these things, 
when "the seventh angel is going about and consummating the blowing his trumpet" (see Greek), that the sacred secrets of God (their being a secret and their meaning as being "accomplished" and revealed), comes to a close (Rev.10:7). 
The seventh and the sixth are not the same, which is why God's Word does not make them the same.

The preparation for the seventh trumpet, does not carry the exact same symbolic meaning as the end of the sixth trumpet (which I don't believe is ever mentioned by God's Word). But the release (trumpet 6) is associated with enlightenment (Pre-7).

I think you may still be viewing Revelation in a physical way....seeing these things as a literal clock, rather than as the symbolism Christ intended (Mark 4:34; Matt.13:10,11; 11:25). 
Those symbols are not meant to be taken as a literal timetable, but as guidance and direction... telling the Body of Christ what is required of them in order to be blessed, found faithful, and how to respond to the greatest test, successfully (Matt.24:21,4,5,24,25; Luke 21:35,36; Dan.8:19; 10:14). 
This guidance is valid and true, regardless of when the "seven congregations" live (Rev.1:11,19,20; Matt.24:34; 28:20). A progressive understanding in spiritual light is for all faithful Chosen, no matter when they live, and no matter what the progressive stage their contemporaries have reached, as individuals. When physical interpretation for these things is sought out, that "wine skin" cannot hold the true wine.
  Yet the fulfillment of Revelation's scroll takes on greater significance as the end of the harvest draws to a close (Rev.14:16,17,19). This is due to Satan's release from the Abyss, and the resulting "Great Tribulation", and "Armageddon" (Dan.7:9,10; Joel 3:14,2; Rev.20:12; John12:48; Hab.2:3; Zeph.3:8; Rev.11:5; Jer.25:29; 2Pet.3:10,7; Jer.23:29; Isa.3:13; Eze.38:21,22; Rev.20:7,8,9; Isa.66:16; Zech.14:5; Rev.19:11,14; 17:14; Amos 7:4; Isa.27:1; Ps.74:13,14; Rev.21:1; Isa.57:20).

***The four angels of God (there are also four angel messengers of Satan) are symbolic of the 4 watches/watchmen, of the night (Matt.14:25 -See Greek-lit.- "fourth watch"), and these four, are watchmen/heralds. These are in a sense, "more than prophets" (Luke7:26; Rev.4:6,8
), because these are prophets that are assigned as "watchmen". Not all symbolic "seven" prophets/stewards, are so assigned. These are the "four horns" of the altar. The altar "Ariel" (Isa.29:2; 3:26; Rev.11:3; Joel 1:13) represents the need to sacrifice your life. The reason behind the sacrifice, is the truth (Rev.6:9; Mark 8:35). 

When the 4 watchmen each blow their trumpets, it is always under circumstances which require this sacrifice. The four watchmen do not work at the same time as each other. Each has their own assigned "watch", and each one appears when God's Nation is threatened, in a state of rebellion, under inspection by God, and about to be judged (with horrific consequences -Isa.10:22; Rev.14:20). 
( (Eze.3:17; Micah 3:8,9,10,11,12; 4:1,2,3)

Those who "live"/are "saved"/are spared spiritually in God's eyes (Mark8:35; Matt.10:28), will live by virtue of their sacrifice for truth (Rev.2:10; 6:9,11; 14:13; 20:4), in the face of the apostate abominations, plagues, and idolatry which surrounds them. 
Horns, represent kings (Dan.7:8,24; Rev.17:12). The "kings" in Revelation, represent those genuinely Chosen by God (Rev.1:5,6; 5:9,10).
The four "horns"/kings, of the altar (Rev.9:13), are those particular four kings who are also heralds/ four "watchmen" (Rev.9:13,14; 16:12; Isa.46:11,10; Rev.12:14). 
These heralds (during their own watch), cry out the need for repentance, 
and the need to sacrifice one's life for the sake of truth, during a time of abominable rebellion and idolatry being practiced by God's Nation while under apostate leadership (Rev.3:17; 2:20,22; 18:3,9; 1Cor.6:15; Rev.17:1,2; 2:20; 13:15,7,8; 19:20).

Yes, these four watchmen are the first to perceive the threat of destruction hovering over all God's people. That is why they are called "watchmen". They are the ones awake at their post (hopefully) keeping watch over God's "City". 
Just as literal watchmen, they are the first to "catch sight" of the threat (Matt.24:15; 2Thess.2:4; Rev.13:8) 
They are the first to perceive the attack, and the enemy. They are the first to sound the alarm, and to give direction, based upon what they see. 
The fourth herald comes at the last shift of the night (just before morning), to learn of the final circumstances, which are initially hidden in Revelation's parables, until the final herald/messenger angel (also the forth "horn"/king/living creature -Rev.4:7; Rev.12:14; Isa.40:31; Gal.6:9; Luke 18:1; Rev.3:8; 2:2), is sent forth 
   (Rev.1:1; 22:6; Joel 2:1; Eze.33:3)
   (Hosea 8:1,2,3,4; Isa.23:8; Rev.9:7,3,10) 
   (Zech.3:9; 4:10,9; Isa.48:16; 59:21; Isa.61:1 
    Zech.4:6,14; Rev.11:3 --symbol for 
    those who teach truth-John 8:17)
This also corresponds to the "trumpeting" of the seventh angel/prophet/steward.
Regarding your other question...."so if you know all the secrets then you are one of these prophets, so do you know all the secrets yet?

...You may think that a herald must "knows all the secrets" all at once, in order to begin his job.
Even regarding a literal watchman...
first he sees the charge of the army, though at first, he may not recognize which nation is attacking, where they are from, nor who is leading the attack, until they draw closer.
He may not at first discern how large the army will be. He may not see what their weapons are, until they are close. 
Even the speed at which they approach, (determining which animals they are riding), ascertaining when they will reach the City, will all take time to discern.
These things are in agreement with the scriptures, which tell us of two things that are required by watchmen, 
in order that their understanding and warning, to be accurate....

1. Cleansing from previous misconceived doctrine.
2. Gaining genuine and accurate understanding, knowledge, and interpretation from God, is gradual.

When the four angels are released from the river Euphrates (Wormwood waters), they first must be cleansed of those waters (Zech.3:1,2,3...(James1:21)... Zech.3:4,5,6,7,8 (John15:5); Rev.22:14; 7:14; 3:18; 6:11), by means of the "bath" of living water...the lye of laundrymen, and the refining by fire 
(Eph.5:26; John4:10; 6:63; Mal.3:1,2,3; Zech.13:9; Rev.3:18; Jer.23:29) (Job 11:13,14,15,16,17,18,19). 
This refining is preparation to receive truthful knowledge and increasing light (Mark 2:22). The Bible makes clear how that light of truth from Christ is received. It is certainly, not all at once (Prov.4:18; Job 17:9; 2Pet.1:19,20,21; Rev.2:28; Mal.4:2); just as dawn is gradual; And even after dawn, comes the "full light of mid-day" (Isa.60:1; 2Pet.1:19; Job 11:17; Prov.4:18).
Even the loss of light from an unfaithful one's lamp, is not sudden (Matt.25:8) as if from full light to full darkness. 
But if one persists in turning from God, their light will go out completely (Prov.13:9; Luke 8:18; 2Pet.2:17; Matt.25:30; Job 11:20; 18:5,6).

When Jesus also promises to give us the "hidden manna", or to eat from the "tree of life" (Rev.2:17,7; John 6:50,63)...Such filling up is gradual, just as a literal meal is (Rev.3:20). When Jesus speaks of the period of receiving full light, he describes it as being "guided into all truth".
Note John 16:12,13...
"I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come."
  To be guided to a destination of all truth, is to take a journey. It is not to immediately arrive at a destination.
Did not Christ's apostles have so much truth? (Luke 8:10) Yet if there were further things they "could not presently bear", they did not know everything yet (Acts 1:7; 1Cor.13:9-10,12; John 16:13; Rev.10:7).

When the spirit of truth is given to the prophets (Rev.22:6; 10:7; 1Cor.14:32; Amos 3:7), it is at the pace that God chooses to reveal his plan. Even when God reveals his plan to Jesus Christ, it is gradual (Mark 13:32; Acts 1:7; Rev.5:5,7; John 15:15; Rev.1:1,19; 2Pet.3:18; 1:8; Col.1:10; John5:19; 7:16; 14:10; 17:8) (Matt.24:36; John5:19)
Does not the scroll of Revelation have "seven seals" which are opened one at a time??? As Christ opens them, he shares them (see verses above). As they are received, they are written/declared/trumpeted (Rev.1:11; Matt.10:27; Rev.8:6; Isa.58:1). Just as John did not see all of Revelation's visions all at once (and write it all in a moment, nor declare it all in a moment), but he saw a progression of visions. Each vision contained it's own details and truths. Did he understand all of it at that time? (Rev.10:4) 
No... not so much as the "angel" who was showing him some of the meaning of what he saw (Rev.7:13,14 A; Rev.22:8,9; Dan.12:4; Amos 8:12; Matt.7:14).

Why is this the gradual method of learning by the meek (Matt.11:25,26), approved of by God? Because in God's justice, it must be earned by digging and "knocking" with persistence; as well as making use of what is received, in order to receive more (Luke 11:9; 12:35,36,37; 17:7,8; 2Thess.3:10; 1Tim.5:18; 1Pet.1:13). 
Our calling is a path we walk, a progressive work of God being accomplished by the work of the word of truth in our hearts (1Thess.2:11,12,13; Phil.1:6; 2:12,16; Eph.4:13; 2:10; Isa.45:11) (1Cor.3:9; 2Cor.7:1; Eph.4:22-24). We must bring those seeds of truth to mature completion regarding their individual purpose in us as Chosen Ones (Luke 8:11,15; James 1:21; Mark 4:28,29; John 12:24,25; 1Cor.15:36) or as other disciples of Christ (Matt.28:19-20).
Satan demands that full light not be given without any requirement, and God allows this requirement, because it is just (2Thess.3:10; 1Tim.5:18; Luke 12:37).

In addition to 1.- cleansing and 2.- gradual learning;
....3.- a continuing intimacy with spirit 
(John15:4,5,6; Eph.4:30; 1Thess.5:19,20) 
4.- and a continuing diligence 
(1Tim.4:16; Eze.3:19; 1Thess.5:14; 2Tim.4:2; Acts 20:27; Matt.5:14,16; Luke 12:35,36,37; Mark 4:25), 
are also required.
   But since you did not ask about these things, I will only offer a brief scriptural reference.

When you ask about my personal knowledge...
I hope to make this clear.
The answer is both yes and no, for the reasons to follow.
Like John and Paul, I have been shown visions. I believe those given me, 
to be a relevant key to unlocking the sacred secrets of God, as contained in the scroll of Revelation.
I believe that key of knowledge is contained within those visions. There was nothing within them, that I would say is new, in that all of it is already depicted within scripture. However, by being shown these things visibly, I was given greater understanding and detail of the scriptures that relate and apply to Revelation. Revelation was illuminated with clarity through the scriptures which already exist, by means of the things I was shown.
But not yet...
The comprehension of what I was shown, is progressive, just as the opening of the seven seals is. The unsealing of the visions given me, seem to be controlled by God's spirit. 
Just as the Bible depicts... (Isa.50:4,5; Ps.143:8; Matt.10:27) ...each morning, even while it is still dark and I am not yet up working, I am shown more. Thank God for this mercy, as I can not even keep up with this gradual pace! 
We are given what to speak, in the hour it is required (Matt.10:19,20).
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I am far behind in writing that which has already been received.
When I think about the visions...scriptures flood to me, telling me the meaning.
Yet after I see that these things await me, I take away a confidence, that when I am able to write more, the knowledge will be there to write. I do not, nor can I, probe everywhere; because I have not yet cared for present things. 
I do not want to direct what I learn and when. I can't. Some things that I seek, do not come presently. I am learning to be patient and in subjection to spirit. Some things sought in the past, are only presently opened. I understand this as God's choice, and His own timing of revelation. This proves to be more than enough.

What I am trying to say, is that I have been assured that the future has more work for me. 
Because I myself am required to remember my weakness and the True source of my power and knowledge;
that work will be according to my weakness, and according to the power of God. 
"According to my weakness" includes that the power of God expressed through me, will continue to be merciful (Amos 7:2; Zech.4:10,11,14; Rev.11:4) (2Cor.12:5,6,7,8,9,10; 1Cor.2:5).

There is much that I have already been shown, yet it is not complete. Often when I begin to write about what I have been partially given, the rest comes while I am writing. At other times, I finish writing and am given no more at that time, even though the writing is not done (John 3:8; Luke 12:12).
I expect that in addition to what I have already been given, I will be given more...if I continue faithful and do not give out. (Isa.62:6; Rev.3:8; 2:2,19,26; Ps.119:28; Gal.6:9; 1Cor.15:58; 2Cor.4:1; 2Thess.3:13; Heb.12:3; Acts 20:24; 1Cor.9:24,25,26; 2Tim.4:7,8).
Whatever my purpose within God's will conclusively proves to be, will depend upon God, and the witness of His Word.
My personal assurance about my continuing assignment is based upon what I was told by Christ...
"You are the last one to sing".
(In one of the visions shown to me, there was an expansive Chorus in heaven. There were four soloists, who each took their turn, and were accompanied by the rest, who would repeat what the soloist sang, with a great fullness of harmony. I was the fourth and last soloist. At first, I sang alone, and in time there were fewer that accompanied me, than had sung with the other soloists.)
According to the context of that vision I was in, I was the last herald ("soloist").
My singing was interrupted by the great "earthquake" of God's declaration (seven thunders). The explosive magnitude of that Voice, interrupted and ended the song of us all.
Everything was shaken and reduced to rubble, during His response. At that time I asked Christ what it all meant, and he told me, "You are the last one to sing."
I take this as meaning, the End.
(1Cor.14:15; Psalm40:1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17; 108:1,2,3,4,5,6; 98:1; 149:1; 
 Eph.5:19; Col.3:16; Rev.14:3,4,6; 15:3)

You also say,
"knowledge to the Prophets only, no one else would be aware, of these secrets,"

Please know that the job of a prophet is to declare what they are given.
As the prophets and heralds understand God's message and Will, they immediately do all they can to make others aware of it also (Hab.2:2; Matt.10:27; Eze.33:1,2,6; 1Cor.14:32).

The 5 virgins (Bride) who enter the feast of God, and are fed along with the Bridegroom, invite all to that same feast (Rev.19:9; 22:17; Matt.22:8,9,10). The seventh angel does not fail to blow his trumpet, after receiving the secrets of God.
(Rev.10:7; 11:15; 16:17)
  Despite the true knowledge becoming available (Dan.12:4,9,10), few will accept it (Amos 8:12; Matt.7:14).
That would harmonize with the wine-press vision, as well as the Chorus vision, and the few who "sang" with me (1Cor.14:15 B).

I hope I have responded satisfactorily to your questions. The answers are mostly in the cited scriptures.
I pray your need is met, either now, or soon.
Love in Christ,

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