Monday, June 10, 2013

144000 / "Sackcloth"


Some comments and questions I received in a letter:

Rev.7:15  Can a mortal man worship God 24/7 in this manner?
> I have not read so!
> If there was one! Besides Jesus! Draw me to the scriptures, to enlighten me.!!!
> But that is what is going to happen! Day and night they worship 24/7.
> How can this happen? They have to be born of the spirit of God, born again.
> They have endured so so much hardship for His name sake, some to the point of death.
> They are able to go to Heaven to reign with Christ, they never denied Christ, but had faith/ hope in Christ,s work.
> People may think 144,000 to reign with Christ is not a lot if you take it from the beginning of time
> Not so with me!
> 144,000 that God found faithful, obedience, true worshipers, is a lot to me!

My Reply:

Hello again,
I don't know why you ask if a person can worship God 24/7;
and why you doubt this is possible;
but regarding this, the anointed priests are expected to do so,
not only now but forever
(Luke9:23; 2:37; Gal.5:25; 1Chron.9:33; Rev.7:15; 22:3).
It is not unusual for anointed ones even today, to report of learning from Christ all during their sleep,
and then spending each day writing what they have learned, along with the scriptures they were told
(John14:26; Matt.10:27; Job33:15,16; 4:12,13; Zech.1:1,8,14,15; 6:15).

Regarding the number 144000; we should remember that the book of Revelation is written in symbols.
Within that scroll, it tells us:
"He also measured its wall, 144 cubits by human measurement, which is also an angel’s measurement." Rev.21:17
The New Creation is both human and angel, flesh and spirit, just as Christ was capable of after this resurrection
(1Pet.3:18; 1Cor.15:4,5,6; Rom.6:5).
Yet this scripture is applying to the measurement of the Holy City, which IS the anointed.
(Rev.21:2,3; 1Cor.3:16; 6:17,19; John14:23; Rom.8:9,11; Gal.4:6; Eph.3:17)

I believe that this dual measurement, may indicate that the number 144000 is both literal/"human"/physical,
as well as symbolic/"angelic"/spiritual in meaning.
What would 144000 mean symbolically?
This number is based upon the meaning of 12. (Rev.14:5) (12X12=144)
If you would like to read more about that meaning of "12",
you can, at

Since Jesus said that "few" find life, this number may prove to be completely symbolic (Matt.7:14).
Those who believe the number is literal because it is compared to the Great Crowd "which no one is able to number" (Rev.7:4,9), still cling to the old wineskin handed them by the apostate City, from which we should not take along any doctrines of understanding regarding these symbols (Luke17:30,31,32,33; 5:38). The 144000 symbolizes the total number of faithful Temple stones (1Pet.2:5). The "Great Crowd" symbolizes the last of them added (the "capstone"), to complete the Temple, who come through the end (Rev.7:14; Zech.4:7,9,10,11,14; Rev.11:4,3). No human can count these final anointed faithful priests/prophets, from within the sea of their contemporary false prophets (Matt.24:5,24,25; 2Thess.2:9; Rev.13:14,4).

I will copy your comment:
"They have endured so so much hardship for His name sake, some to the point of death.
 They are able to go to Heaven to reign with Christ, they never denied Christ, but had faith/ hope in Christ,s work."

You say "some to the point of death". Not so.
All 144000 must die for Christ (Phil.3:10; Rom.6:3; Rev.6:9,10,11; 20:4).
Next you said that "they never denied Christ". Also not true. Like Peter, some have denied Christ.
Remember, Peter denied Christ three times (Matt.26:75). Could this be undone? If so...How?
We learn something from John21:17:
"The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep"."
By Peter performing works that befitted repentance (Matt.3:8); Christ made the way for him to be able to be cleansed of his denying Christ. Peter would work to feed Christ's sheep the "fruit" of spiritual provisions, by bearing witness to Christ with his lips (Heb.13:15; Matt.3:8; 7:20).

I remind readers often, to take note of a detail about the final prophets. They are dressed in sackcloth (Rev.11:3). This is a symbol of repentance (Luke10:13; Joel1:13). This is especially fitting in the time of the end. Why?
Because we are told that for a time, the Wild Beast/Locust-scorpions/"Man of Lawlessness"/Gentiles, have conquered the integrity of the anointed, holding them captive as slaves to idolatry... keeping them from becoming sealed as faithful (Rev.13:7,8,10; 11:2; 9:3,4,5,10; 2Thess.2:4; 2Cor.11:3,20; Gal.2:4; 4:3; 5:1; 1Cor.7:23). While under this satanic dominion, these are denying the Christ who bought them as his own slaves. They need to repent!
If they wake up, are released, remove the slave mark of the Beast, and proclaim God's Warning declarations (Rev.3:2,3,18,19; 9:14; 7:14; 19:10; 11:3,4,5) they will be totally washed clean, as if they had never sinned (Ps.103:12; Isa.43:25; Micah7:19; Rev.7:9; 20:4; Isa.1:18).
So although these ones, for a time, were dominated by Satan (and denied Christ);
they are saved by the profound mercies of God (Matt.19:25,26; Rev.7:10; Rom.9:15,16,18).


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