Sunday, December 9, 2012

JUST FINISHED BEING UPDATED AND EDIFIED

I thought readers might benefit from a spiritual discussion between me and Joe (anointed),
and the scriptures which are referenced...


Dearest Sister Pearl,

I have posted this subject on:
jwstruggle
paradisecafe
christianbrotherhood

I hope for you to understand that this was not done as some kind of opposition to you.

As I have great respect for you and your teachings that Jehovah and Jesus have given to you.

But I must be faithful to what the anointing is teaching me.

So please give prayerful consideration to what I have written on the subject of Spiritual Israel.

For your consideration:

Spiritual Nation of Isreal

Matt. 25:
31 “When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 “Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world. 35 For I became hungry and YOU gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and YOU gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and YOU received me hospitably; 36 naked, and YOU clothed me. I fell sick and YOU looked after me. I was in prison and YOU came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you?’ 40 And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. 42 For I became hungry, but YOU gave me nothing to eat, and I got thirsty, but YOU gave me nothing to drink. 43 I was a stranger, but YOU did not receive me hospitably; naked, but YOU did not clothe me; sick and in prison, but YOU did not look after me.’ 44 Then they also will answer with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them with the words, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did not do it to one of these least ones, YOU did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”
(The brothers of Christ are the sealed/chosen to be Kings and Priests. These ones are chosen specifically by Jehovah and anointed - or appointed - for this purpose.)
(From where are they chosen?)
(From this Group.)

John 3:
16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. 18 He that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
(Because those who do not exercise faith go off into everlasting cutting off)

Romans 8:
18 Consequently I reckon that the sufferings of the present season do not amount to anything in comparison with the glory that is going to be revealed in us. 19 For the eager expectation of the creation is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will but through him that subjected it, on the basis of hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now. 23 Not only that, but we ourselves also who have the firstfruits, namely, the spirit, yes, we ourselves groan within ourselves, while we are earnestly waiting for adoption as sons, the release from our bodies by ransom. 24 For we were saved in [this] hope; but hope that is seen is not hope, for when a man sees a thing, does he hope for it? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we keep on waiting for it with endurance.

(The creation that is waiting for the revealing of the sons of God are those that are the believers who exercise faith in Jesus so that they can be set free.)

(The sons of God are those specifically chosen from this creation. The called/sealed/chosen ones.)



2 Cor. 5:
16 Consequently from now on we know no man according to the flesh. Even if we have known Christ according to the flesh, certainly we now know him so no more. 17 Consequently if anyone is in union with Christ, he is a new creation; the old things passed away, look! new things have come into existence. 18 But all things are from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of the reconciliation, 19 namely, that God was by means of Christ reconciling a world to himself, not reckoning to them their trespasses, and he committed the word of the reconciliation to us.


Gal. 6:
12 All those who want to make a pleasing appearance in the flesh are the ones that try to compel YOU to get circumcised, only that they may not be persecuted for the torture stake of the Christ, Jesus. 13 For not even do those who are getting circumcised keep the Law themselves, but they want YOU to be circumcised that they may have cause for boasting in YOUR flesh. 14 Never may it occur that I should boast, except in the torture stake of our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the world has been impaled to me and I to the world. 15 For neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation [is something]. 16 And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God.

(The Isreal of God is comprised of all this creation that excepts and exercises faith in Jesus.)


Rev 7:
“Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the slaves of our God in their foreheads.”
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel:
5 Out of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand sealed;
out of the tribe of Reu′ben twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand;
6 out of the tribe of Ash′er twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Naph′ta·li twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Ma·nas′seh twelve thousand;
7 out of the tribe of Sim′e·on twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Le′vi twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Is′sa·char twelve thousand;
8 out of the tribe of Zeb′u·lun twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand;
out of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand sealed.

(Notice please that these ones are sealed out of this nation of spiritual Israel.)

(From this Israel of God There are a specific group of Individuals that are called/chosen/sealed for the purpose of being Jesus brothers/kings/priests.)

(Just as the Physical Nation of Israel was lead by Moses and Aaron  - who were specifically called/chosen/anointed for that specific purpose -  out of egypt into the promised land so the spiritual nation of Israel will be led out of this wicked world into the promised new earth by Jesus and his called/chosen/anointed brothers.)
(It is my belief that the great crowd are the  ones whom will be first to begin in building the new earth spoken of alongside of those who are the brothers/called/chosen/anoited ones of Christ)

( I recognize that some believe that the great crowd are a part of the sealed ones. And that because they wear white robes washed in the blood of the lamb then the must be of the sealed class. But it seems obvious to me that anyone who accepts Jesus and exercises faith in him and repents and turns to doing righteousness has washed their robes in Jesus blood and are exceptable to Him.)

I did not publish this view as a form of argument or any kind of contentiousness. It is simply how I see this truth of this subject.

Thankyou
Joe
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My reply:

I agree that the 144000 are sealed out of the "tribes of Israel".

Not all those invited, become sealed (2Pet.1:10; Rev.9:4; 7:4; 2:21; Luke12:37).
Yet those who remain un-sealed,
were still invited, and had their hearts circumcised by their anointing (Rom.2:29; 5:5),
and are then considered a part of the circumcised "tribes of Israel", though not
necessarily "sealed". (Rev.7:4; Matt.22:14) 
These ones can also lose their "circumcision" completely, and then be considered as spiritual Gentiles again. (Hab.2:16; Amos.9:7; Eze.28:10; Isa.35:8; Acts7:51; Jer.6:10; 9:25; Rom.11:20,21)

Does this help with Rev.7:4?



Not only do the "righteous" "heavens" inherit the earth, the "righteous" "earth" also does (2Pet.3:13; Isa.60:3; 65:17).

I received a partial answer by Holy Spirit and scripture, 
to your point about the judgement that is passed at Matt.25:31-46,
(based upon how "sheep" and "goats" respond to Christ's anointed brothers.)
I also thought that this was talking about how anointed treated each other (but I didn't write about that because spirit did not directly give it to me).
 I was given Heb.11:7, John13:20, Matt.10:40,41,42 and 1Cor.6:2
It is important to see the Greek for Heb.11:7 and 1Cor.6:2,
to see the connection they have....and all they reveal about the basis of judgment.
The most important end-point, is that 1Cor.6:2 tells us that the identity of those judged,
is not the holy ones themselves, but, "the world".

I will put the Greek here for you,

so that you can see who Noah judged, and how the world of his time was judged through him.
  That judgement of ancient times, is compared by Christ himself, to the judgement of our time. (Matt.24:37; 2Pet.3:5,6,7)

I hope these words of God help you to increase in your clarity,

about Matt.25:31-46; and how the treatment to Christ's brothers
determines the "judgement of the world".


Certainly, if a person is apathetically ignoring the truth Christ's ambassadors are providing,
or are intentionally ignoring their needs and message, persecuting them because they are disfellowshipped (Rev.11:8,9,10);
and those ignoring them are doing so because of their subjection to the "Beast"s of Revelation, 

then yes,

they will not be welcomed into the Kingdom which has been being prepared, since "the founding of the world" of Satan. 

(1John5:19; John5:17; Eph.1:10; Rev.10:5,6; Dan.12:7; Deut.32:40,41,42,43; Matt.25:34) These ones in Rev.11:8,9,10 are certainly in the group Jesus referred to, at Matt.25:42,43,41.
This Kingdom is being "prepared" through the gathering of those who will rule it...the "righteous" men of faith.
Previous to the "founding" of Satan's world in Eden, this kingdom was not needed, nor a part of Jehovah's original plan. For, before sin entered the world and death through sin, God saw that everything, was already "good". (Rom.5:12; Gen.1:31). Once mankind "fell" through the sin of Adam (Rom.5:12); then the ransom became necessary (1Cor.15:45; Rom.6:23). Previous to sin, Jehovah was finished with His creative work, and proceeded to enter his Sabbath rest (Gen.2:1,2,3,4). Once sin ruined God's creation, he had to "go back to work" so to speak (John5:17; 4:34). Only those who establish a record of faithfulness and belong to the "second Adam" as their new eternal "father" (Isa.9:6; Psalm45:16), either through the "first resurrection" or the second, will enter into the eternal rest day to come (Matt.12:8; Heb.4:9,11; Rev.20:6,5; Acts24:15).



I must say that I am still learning all about this, and try not to teach until I understand fully,

with all the scriptures given to me that "prove" it. 
One of my students just finished an assignment on Israel, which may interest you. I myself will write about this subject, after I am done learning. It seems it will be a while, since it has already been a couple of years on this subject...along with other subjects.
 As my learning becomes enough to write a substantial amount for others, then I start the subject's Blog.
I don't know if I asked you this yet, but did Holy Spirit take you into heaven, and give you visions of Truth...visions of what everything means (Num.12:6)? I am earnestly seeking another prophet.
If you have not been given visions, do you know yet what part of the body God placed you as (1Cor.12:18,4,5,6,7,27,28,29,30)?
I know that with me, this realization took time to learn.
I hope you won't mind sharing this with me.

I have finished editing that article I mentioned.

It is located at:
godsavesisrael.blogspot.com
This student has done very good work before,
has good understanding, and I appreciate so much this help. 
I can teach them, and with Holy Spirit's help...they grasp it, 
and then can help me get the huge load of work done.

I don't even know if the article touches upon all your assertions below,

but I know it is loaded with scriptures relevant to the title of your subject,
so maybe you can use some of it too.
Finally going to eat something,
Talk to you later, 
and thanks again for writing,

Love in Christ,

Pearl


Heb.11:7 interlinear

1Cor.6:2



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